[08:14] <dpm> good morning all
[08:32] <gtriderxc> hi
[08:34] <dpm> hey gtriderxc :-)
[09:04] <gtriderxc> once again I'mm gonna need some help of Yours...
[09:04] <gtriderxc>    1. Ubuntu
[09:04] <gtriderxc>    2. Natty (11.04)
[09:04] <gtriderxc>    3. Translations
[09:04] <gtriderxc>    4. “gnome-power-manager” source package
[09:04] <gtriderxc>    5. Template “gnome-power-manager”
[09:04] <gtriderxc>    6. Polish (pl)
[09:04] <gtriderxc> %s waiting to charge
[09:05] <gtriderxc> Copy text 	
[09:05] <gtriderxc> %s waiting to discharge
[09:05] <dpm> gtriderxc, it's easier for us (and for you :) if you send us a direct link to the string
[09:05] <gtriderxc> waitin to DISCHARGE???
[09:05] <gtriderxc> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gnome-power-manager/+pots/gnome-power-manager/pl/+translate?show=untranslated
[09:05] <gtriderxc> how can one wait to discharge??
[09:06] <gtriderxc> ain't it easier to say discharging or charging??
[09:06] <gtriderxc> 2. "%s" - "larger than 12 hours remaining TRANSLATORS: the device is discharging "
[09:07] <gtriderxc> what do they gave us the information for??
[09:07] <dpm> 1. I think it refers to a laptop battery or another device (e.g. wireless mouse). I'm not sure what the context is, but I believe the "waiting" might be needed there. I think there are the "discharging" and "charging" strings already
[09:07] <gtriderxc> does it mean i should put my own description there or just leave %s
[09:07] <gtriderxc> ??
[09:08] <dpm> (btw, you can send direct URLs to translations using the link in the small magnifier icon to the left, e.g. https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gnome-power-manager/+pots/gnome-power-manager/pl/400/+translate )
[09:08] <gtriderxc> :) how can one wait to discharge a bettery??:)
[09:08] <gtriderxc> *battery
[09:09] <dpm> I'm not sure, either, so the best thing might be to ask the gnome-power-manager developers. Or perhaps on the Ubuntu Polish translators lists someone knows more
[09:09] <dpm> 2. You should just leave it as %s
[09:09] <gtriderxc> OK, i;m gonna find it out before translating
[09:09] <gtriderxc> ok THX
[09:10] <dpm> the comment just tells you that %s is going to be replaced by the translation of "discharging"
[09:10] <dpm> it simply gives you a bit of context
[09:10] <dpm> np :-)
[09:10] <gtriderxc> thats how i got it but wasn't sure
[10:01] <dpm> gtriderxc, nice video you posted on the translators FB page :-)
[10:01] <gtriderxc> pretty useful
[10:02] <dpm> yeah, it was really cool
[10:02] <gtriderxc> especially if You can see some of the apps which You translates
[10:02] <gtriderxc> *translate
[10:04] <dpm> hm, yeah, that's a good point
[10:05] <gtriderxc> I could see for example the element of Software Center I ask 3 days ago about
[10:05] <gtriderxc> I made an upgrade and have an old soft Cen
[10:28] <dpm> cool
[11:15] <dpm> translators: there is still time to get your maverick language pack updates tested and released:
[11:15] <dpm> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2010-December/004258.html
[11:27] <TLE> go go go
[12:14] <gtriderxc> update in progress. that was the deeper sense of my yesterdays question on Videocast
[12:16] <gtriderxc> too deep and too hidden:)
[12:21] <andrejz> dpm, you there?
[12:22] <dpm> hey andrejz, yes. Can I help with anything?
[12:23] <andrejz> yes. One of the users is complaining about some strings in Lucid 10.04
[12:23] <andrejz> He is using language pack PPA
[12:23] <andrejz> and even thought the errors he mentions were fixed in august / september
[12:23] <andrejz> he still sees them
[12:23] <andrejz> his language pack version is   language-pack-sl               1:10.04+20101210               translation updates for language Slovenian
[12:24] <andrejz> it's a minor thing (poor spelling) but it's quite visible and also 10.04 is LTS and hence important to us
[12:27] <dpm> andrejz, could you give me more details? Do you know the particular string or the application/package it comes from?
[12:27] <andrejz> yes, both are gnome pakcages
[12:27] <andrejz> one is from gnome menu and the other gnome-applets
[12:28] <andrejz> This is one of those strings - https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gnome-applets/+pots/gnome-applets-2.0/sl/770/+translate
[12:29] <dpm> let me see...
[12:29] <andrejz> This is one more - https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gnome-menus/+pots/gnome-menus/sl/50/+translate
[12:33] <dpm> andrejz, ah, unfortunately these might be strings that cannot be updated in language packs. Look at the "Located in ../desktop-directories/Settings-System.directory.in.h:1" line of the second URL. I believe .directory files are not supported by language packs, but I'd have to re-check. So there is no easy way to update that one other than patching the package. The first one, regarding the trash applet, I'm not sure. But I could think that the tras
[12:33] <dpm> h applet might also be special in a similar way
[12:33] <dpm> So no easy way of updtating them, sorry :(
[12:34] <andrejz> ok, no problem just wanted to check if it's a bug or something
[12:35] <andrejz> it's ok. we reached 99% for 10.10, so now we have a year and a half to check, recheck and then check again in fix all issues before next LTS
[12:36] <andrejz> :)
[12:37] <gtriderxc> AT LAST! IT WORKS! MY SOFTWARE CENTER SPEAKS POLISH!
[12:37] <gtriderxc> \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
[12:37] <gtriderxc> after 9 months:)
[12:38] <yurchor> Just of curiosity. Why networkmanager-cli is so high in the list of packages (first page)?
[12:38] <andrejz> @gtriderxc: congrats :)
[12:39] <dpm> gtriderxc, great, good work! :-)
[12:40] <gtriderxc> if I knew it works this way I'd test it better
[12:41] <dpm> yurchor, hm, let me have a look, I don't remember having put it there, but it might be because it's got Ubuntu modifications and it's quite visible?
[12:41] <gtriderxc> I mean with that proposed apdates
[12:41] <gtriderxc> *updates
[12:41] <yurchor> dpm: More visible than GNOME-applet? ;)
[12:41] <dpm> gtriderxc, yeah, that's the nice thing about language packs
[12:43] <dpm> yurchor, I don't know, perhaps someone else put it there for a good reason. happyaron, have you been prioritizing templates in the imports queue recently? do you know about networkmanager-cli?
[12:43] <dpm> it's just a matter of setting the priority, if it does not belong to the first page, we can just give it a lower priority
[12:43] <dpm> thanks for the heads up yurchor
[12:44] <yurchor> dpm: Thanks for your answer. Can I ask just one more question?
[12:44] <happyaron> dpm: nope, I have not touched launchpad translations for roughly a month
[12:44] <dpm> thanks happyaron
[12:44] <dpm> yurchor, of course!
[12:45] <dpm> yurchor, btw, where do you see it in the first page? It's not on mine: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+lang/ca
[12:46] <yurchor> dpm: It's networkmanager itself (in fact CLI).
[12:48] <dpm> yurchor, networkmanager is the only template we've got, and it's on the second page https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+lang/ca/+index?start=50&batch=50 - where do you see this -cli template? can you give me the URL?
[12:48] <dpm> or do you mean that the 'networkmanager' template contains only CLI translations?
[12:49] <yurchor> dpm: Yes.
[12:49] <dpm> ok, gotcha
[12:49] <dpm> in that case, and if they are not shown in the UI in a visible way, we might want to put it further down the list
[12:49] <dpm> but we should make sure that those translations are indeed not used in the UI
[12:50] <dpm> are you sure about that?
[12:50] <yurchor> dpm: GNOME coordinator told me so.
[12:50] <dpm> yurchor, ok, great. Let me see where we should best put it...
[12:52] <dpm> done
[12:53] <yurchor> dpm: Thanks.
[12:53] <dpm> it's now in the region around 18. according to our priority guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority
[12:53] <dpm> you're welcome, thanks for the heads up
[12:53] <gtriderxc> can the Polish translations be also added to the list if they are tested?? whom should I contact in such cases?
[12:54] <andrejz> @gtriderxc: add it to the wiki page
[12:54] <dpm> gtriderxc, you don't have to contact anyone. If you have tested them, you just add the feedback to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA and they will be uploaded
[12:55] <andrejz> that's the link i was looking for, dpm just beated me ;)
[12:55] <yurchor> I want to ask about KDE destktop-files. It seems that they are not exported for Natty. Delayed for KDE 4.6? Maybe something wrong export lists?
[12:56] <gtriderxc> should I have some special permission to do that?? cause it seems that I'm unable to add anything
[12:56] <andrejz> @gtriderxc: you must sign in
[12:56] <gtriderxc> yes I am
[12:58] <dpm> gtriderxc, under the "Translations LanguagePackUpdatesQA" title on that page you should see an "Edit" link. Can you see it?
[12:58] <gtriderxc> ok, now I see
[12:58] <dpm> cool, let us know if it works
[13:00] <gtriderxc> done:)
[13:01] <gtriderxc> thank You 4 help
[13:02] <dpm> gtriderxc, great, thanks! That's the greatness of community. Just think that what you've just done with your translations and the test will bring new Polish translations to thousands of users
[13:02] <dpm> that's just awesome
[13:03] <gtriderxc> :)
[13:03] <dpm> btw, your earlier exclamation of joy has just been featured in the Ubuntu translators Facebook page ;)
[13:03] <gtriderxc> :-)
[13:12] <dpm> anyway, lunch time :)
[19:35] <yantrashilpi> hello dpm: are you around? Need some tips.
[19:35] <dpm> hi yantrashilpi
[19:36] <dpm> how can I help?
[19:36] <yantrashilpi> he got the email about the translation blog.
[19:36] <dpm> ah, good :)
[19:36] <yantrashilpi> The link seems to have converted into a reference number [2]
[19:36] <yantrashilpi> am I missing something?
[19:37] <dpm> yantrashilpi, I cannot check because I sent the e-mail through Launchpad's "Contact this user" feature (I could not find your e-mail), but the link in [2] was:
[19:37] <dpm> https://davidplanella.wordpress.com/2010/12/17/natty-translations-plans-ii-translations-training-sessions/
[19:38] <yantrashilpi> dpm: ah great... now will you be publishing the translations on the same website or should I create one?
[19:39] <dpm> yantrashilpi, we've got two options:
[19:40] <dpm> a) if you have a blog, you can publish a translation of the post and I'll update my post with a link to yours
[19:41] <yantrashilpi> i definitely don't have one at the moment.
[19:41] <dpm> b) If you haven't, just send me the translation per e-mail and I'll write a new blog post in Kannada crediting you as the translator
[19:41] <yantrashilpi> great. so I'll do taht for now.
[19:41] <dpm> fantastic :)
[19:41] <dpm> thanks a lot
[19:41] <yantrashilpi> I think there are a couple of active translators on the kannada team. I've finally gotten in touch with them.
[19:42] <dpm> oh, great
[19:42] <yantrashilpi> I'll try to have them review it as well.
[19:42] <dpm> awesome
[19:42] <yantrashilpi> thanks.