| Broam | gonna obviously miss the meeting tonight. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Broam | so meeting - did anyone go? | 14:16 |
| joeyk | I did not | 14:17 |
| joeyk | traffic was horrible just from Annapolis to Pasadena let alone driving up 32 to Columbia | 14:18 |
| === joeyk is now known as ikkles | ||
| Broam | hmm. | 14:26 |
| Broam | thank ikkles | 14:27 |
| Broam | the irc and the forums are pretty low-activity | 14:27 |
| JonathanD | hi Broam | 14:38 |
| Broam | hey JonathanD | 14:38 |
| JonathanD | How goes man? | 14:38 |
| JonathanD | it's gettin cold out. | 14:38 |
| Broam | Workin'. Mostly RSS feeds & updating old asp pages. It's a living | 14:38 |
| Broam | I'd rather be hacking on a free or emerging-as-free telephony platform | 14:38 |
| JonathanD | Broam: come hang with me and ikkles when we start our business. | 14:39 |
| Broam | I'm listening... | 14:39 |
| JonathanD | Oh, I didn't mean we had a plan :p | 14:39 |
| Broam | oh. | 14:40 |
| JonathanD | It's not completely impossible, though, I suppose ;) | 14:40 |
| Broam | a friend keeps pushing me into having a side business of "Phones you Own" - rooted & unlocked, etc. | 14:40 |
| Broam | after finding my wife a G1 for $20, unlocking it (another $15) | 14:41 |
| Broam | and then rooting/modding the heck out of it | 14:41 |
| JonathanD | heh :D | 14:42 |
| JonathanD | Broam: I'd like to get to small business network building. | 14:42 |
| Broam | sounds like a fun time | 14:42 |
| JonathanD | like, 20-50 user stuff. | 14:42 |
| Broam | that seems doable. | 14:43 |
| Broam | I might start with nonprofits. | 14:43 |
| JonathanD | One of my ongoing projects is this thing I have setup in the basement... | 14:43 |
| Broam | continue; | 14:43 |
| JonathanD | I have a windows network, AD, exchange, file, print, and a handful of apps... | 14:43 |
| JonathanD | 5 workstations. | 14:43 |
| JonathanD | this is all virtual, of course. | 14:43 |
| JonathanD | and 4 servers, with redundancy on critical apps. | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | I'm attempting to duplicate every piece of functionality using ubuntu as a base. | 14:44 |
| Broam | cool. | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | So I have some documentation on what the fake business does, what the workflow is, etc. | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | I've not gotten very far with it really :) | 14:45 |
| JonathanD | I have the VMs, and I've built most of the windows network functions that will eventually be duped. | 14:45 |
| Broam | well having organized plans is actually something important. | 14:45 |
| Broam | Pre-built procedures for doing X or Y...plus documentation of what was performed | 14:45 |
| Broam | if your mail server goes down do this | 14:46 |
| JonathanD | exactly. | 14:46 |
| Broam | network-in-a-can | 14:46 |
| JonathanD | Documentation is key ;) | 14:46 |
| JonathanD | customer has these needs... | 14:47 |
| JonathanD | 1. Can we meet them, and 2. Which procedures do we take to get there. | 14:47 |
| JonathanD | and document any changes from the standard deployment | 14:48 |
| JonathanD | I've worked under such a model before. When I did the IBM stuff. | 14:48 |
| JonathanD | I think I've discovered a key training method, too. | 14:48 |
| Broam | continue? | 14:48 |
| JonathanD | The first task given to a new hire in such an organization should be a "fix" that requires the good docs you already have. | 14:49 |
| JonathanD | Probably the first several. | 14:49 |
| JonathanD | By the time the new hire walks into an implementation, they'll have performed several fixes using previous docs, and hopefully realize why they are important. | 14:50 |
| Broam | I like that. | 14:50 |
| Broam | if they bother to read tfm | 14:50 |
| JonathanD | Pretty much without fail, documentation improved AFTER someone had to fix something and didn't have it. Then they would go on a stint of improving it (often without billing since it's "make up work") | 14:51 |
| JonathanD | well, likewise, first few fixes should be mentored. | 14:51 |
| JonathanD | I know I was. | 14:51 |
| JonathanD | Couple guys at that job told me they'd come work for me if I ever went into business myself, so it's sort of been in the back of my mind since then. | 14:52 |
| Broam | sounds like a plan | 14:53 |
| JonathanD | In good time, I suppose. | 14:56 |
| JonathanD | Need funds first :) | 14:56 |
| Broam | hey jbicha | 18:59 |
| jbicha | howdy | 18:59 |
| Broam | how's your friday? | 18:59 |
| JonathanD | howdy jbicha | 19:00 |
| jbicha | fine, snow is kinda fun | 19:00 |
| Broam | my wife just got a job | 19:03 |
| Broam | 6mo internship | 19:03 |
| jbicha | doing what? | 19:04 |
| jbicha | I'm looking for a job too | 19:05 |
| Broam | I think it's w/ UPS | 19:06 |
| Broam | linux stuff factored into it I know that | 19:06 |
| === ikkles is now known as zeropython | ||
| === zeropython is now known as zer0python | ||
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