[00:54] <beuno> zroysch, it really dedpends on the number of files and the size
[00:54] <beuno> are you on Lucid?  Maverick?
[08:00] <duanedesign> morning all
[08:35] <karni> morning
[08:49] <duanedesign> hey karni
[08:50] <karni> :)
[08:50]  * karni hacks U1F on 'building computer systems' lecture ;d
[08:51] <karni> the lecture title is kinda smarter in original language ;D
[08:51] <duanedesign> :)
[08:51] <duanedesign> lost in translation..
[08:52] <duanedesign> http://ubuntu.igameilive.com/2010/12/how-to-measure-your-internet-speed-in.html
[08:52] <duanedesign> dont know what i am going to do in Unity without the Panel :P
[08:53] <duanedesign> not that i need instant access to allthese 'gadgets'
[08:54] <karni> duanedesign: nice applet
[08:54] <karni> duanedesign: I'm putting it back xD (probably)
[08:55] <karni> haven't really used unity, just for testing
[08:55] <duanedesign> i have had trouble with natty lately running unity. So for right now i am on classic desktop
[08:55] <karni> already natty, huh :)?
[08:55]  * karni hides under the carpet with lucid
[08:57] <duanedesign> my server runs Jaunty and my desktop runs natty so I figure that averages out to Lucid :P
[09:01] <karni> duanedesign: :D
[09:01] <karni> jaunty was cool. I loved that login screen http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ubuntu-jaunty.png
[09:03] <duanedesign> my favorite default wallpapers were Hardy and Jaunty
[11:37] <duanedesign> good morning
[11:37] <duanedesign> again :)
[11:37] <duanedesign> the first one was a false start. Went back to sleep for about an hour :)
[11:41] <karni> :D
[13:52] <ralsina> alecu nessita dobey standup in 8'
[13:53] <nessita> ralsina: dobey is on leave, I think
[13:53] <alecu> ralsina, I thought dobey was out on fridays till EOY
[13:53]  * ralsina will someday get his manager superpowers
[13:53] <ralsina> ok then it's just us
[13:59] <ralsina> me
[14:00] <ralsina> damn, 10:59:59 :-)
[14:00] <ralsina> alecu, nessita, standup now
[14:00] <nessita> me
[14:00] <ralsina> alecu ping
[14:01] <alecu> me (finishing notes)
[14:01] <nessita> ralsina: go!
[14:01] <ralsina> DONE: meetings, organizing the upload of desktopcouch, chasing people around
[14:01] <ralsina> TODO: more meetings, finish setting up narwhal VM, finish windows dev. setup, check mandel's windows code
[14:01] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[14:01] <ralsina> nessita!
[14:01] <nessita> DONE: almost ready the devices tab, weekly meeting, ussoc packages (awaiting for sponsorship), submitted branches for bug 691292 and bug 690649
[14:01] <nessita> TODO: remove device functionality (bug 691295), meeting re: shares
[14:01] <nessita> BLOCKED: 1/2 blocked: waiting reviews for 2 branches of u1cp
[14:01] <nessita> NEXT: alecu
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 691292 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "DBus error signals should send the object id when available (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691292
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 690649 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Show devices on Devices tab (affects: 1) (heat: 3034)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690649
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 691295 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Implement device removal on GUI (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691295
[14:02] <nessita> reviews pending are:
[14:03] <alecu> DONE: worked on integrating mozmill with test desktopcouchdb instances. Half way thru eric's jslint megabrach
[14:03] <alecu> TODO: wrap up the year
[14:03] <alecu> BLOCKED: still need a windows review for the optional-ziggy branch
[14:03] <nessita> alecu: I can do that review but on linux :-/
[14:03] <ralsina> ok, questions, etc?
[14:03] <ralsina> nessita: send me the branches where you need reviews, I may be able to help
[14:03] <nessita> nah
[14:03] <alecu> nessita, please, do it on linux, and we'll see if it breaks on windows when mandel returns.
[14:03] <nessita> ralsina: YEY
[14:04] <ralsina> alecu: agreed
[14:04] <nessita> alecu: agreed, link please?
[14:04] <ralsina> alecu: noone is going to even try that on windows this week
[14:04] <alecu> ralsina, how comes? I thought you were installing 7 as your host os!
[14:05] <alecu> nessita, https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/make-ziggy-optional
[14:05] <ralsina> alecu: windows 7 is there, but I am not trying to do anything until mandel is here. I have no clue how to set up the development env.
[14:05] <alecu> ralsina, I guess nobody does :-)
[14:05] <ralsina> I am installing python, bzr, and will try to run the code but I don't expect anything to actually work :-)
[14:07] <ralsina> and who else is running trunk or anything like it win windows? My guess is noone
[14:07] <ralsina> So, I say merge and see if someone notices later
[14:08] <ralsina> eom
[14:08] <nessita> eom!
[14:35] <CardinalFang> joshuahoover, that music user on Android, yes, I suspect the problem is indeed the name of the file.  The external storage could be using FAT filesystem, and the colon could be a problem there.
[14:35] <CardinalFang> Gods, I love MICROS~1 engineering.
[14:37] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: ah, thanks
[14:37] <CardinalFang> joshuahoover, maybe I'll have a fix in a bit.
[14:38] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: that would be cool...while i have you...any news on desktopcouch? :)
[14:39] <CardinalFang> joshuahoover, yes, it's coming along.  dob-y's branch should land soon, and then I can release source and then pacakge.
[14:40] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: great!
[14:41] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: thank you for all the work on it...i hate having you jump between projects like that but we seem to be "this close" to releasing dc :)
[14:42] <ralsina> joshuahoover: we are in some strange sort of asymptotic release or something :-(
[14:42] <joshuahoover> heh
[14:47] <nessita> alecu: what was the magic to solve "libsyncdaemon/Makefile.am:90: HAVE_INTROSPECTION does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL" when running autogen on u1client?
[14:47] <alecu> nessita, apt-get install gir-something?
[14:50] <nessita> alecu: argh, I'm updating and gir-somehting is being uninstalled and re installed
[14:50] <alecu> nessita, well... it's not "something"
[14:51] <alecu> nessita, it's gir1.0-... and libgirepository1.0-1  I think
[14:52] <alecu> I have installed libgirepository1.0-1, gir1.0-glib-2.0 and gir1.0-soup-2.4
[14:52] <nessita> yeah, I meant that right now all gir-s are being uninstalled
[15:10] <nessita> alecu: update successfull, running the suite now
[15:20] <nessita> alecu: on ubuntuone/platform/windows/__init__.py there is an extra line added in this diff
[15:20] <alecu> nessita, checking
[15:21] <ralsina> alecu, Bug nuevo #674256 no es lo que estabas haciendo en el sprint?
[15:21] <ralsina> Perdon, bug #674256
[15:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 674256 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Store couchdb synchronization events into zeitgeist (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674256
[15:21]  * ralsina exports LOCALE=en
[15:22] <alecu> ralsina, :-)
[15:23] <alecu> ralsina, I worked on syncdaemon events, not couchdb events
[15:23] <ralsina> alecu: oh, right
[15:23] <ralsina> alecu: this one should be easier I suppose
[15:24] <alecu> ralsina, I think CardinalFang (chad) was looking into how to do that
[15:24] <ralsina> alecu: ok, but he's on loan
[15:24] <ralsina> alecu: then again you are on vacation in 6 hours so no difference
[15:24] <alecu> :-)
[15:25] <ralsina> by next wednesday I am going to be managing only my cat and nessita
[15:25] <alecu> hahahaha
[15:25] <alecu> ralsina, only your cat. Nessita manages herself (!?)
[15:25] <ralsina> damn, so does my cat
[15:25] <nessita> :-D
[15:26]  * ralsina considers sayinf nessita is re-cat but decides it's against company policy
[15:26]  * ralsina ducks
[15:26] <nessita> ok, I need to reboot before the mumblemeeting
[15:26]  * nessita brbs
[15:26] <ralsina> ok!
[15:27] <CardinalFang> alecu, ralsina, sorry?  Which events to where?
[15:27] <ralsina> CardinalFang: coudhdb events to zeitgeist
[15:28] <CardinalFang> ralsina, Ah, yes.  I did look, enough to update the proposal in the wiki.  I don't have any working code, though.
[15:29] <ralsina> CardinalFang: OK, great
[15:30] <alecu> ralsina, this is the proposal, updated with the event that are already on trunk, and the missing ones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Specs/ZeitgeistIntegration/EventsSpec
[15:30] <ralsina> alecu: oh, nice
[15:30] <CardinalFang> ralsina, the hard part will be deciding what genre of events to emit.  (Not "genre", but the voodoo phrasing that zeitgeist uses.)
[15:31] <ralsina> CardinalFang: hey, it makes zeitgeist feel all sciencey
[15:31] <ralsina> I am not classifying stuff, I am applying a whateverology to them
[15:33] <alecu> CardinalFang, is there some protocol that we could use to point at couch databases? (like file:/// or http://)
[15:33] <CardinalFang> Heh.
[15:33] <alecu> CardinalFang, ... are desktopcouch databases always started on a port number that survives reboots?
[15:34] <CardinalFang> Not that either.
[15:34] <CardinalFang> alecu, How would you refer to a PostgreSQL db?
[15:35] <alecu> CardinalFang, for files stored on u1, I made up the "ubuntuone:uuid" url
[15:35] <CardinalFang> Hrm.
[15:35] <ralsina> alecu, mumble?
[15:35] <alecu> and I'm storing the syncdaemon uuid there...
[15:35] <alecu> oh, mumble. sorry
[15:35] <CardinalFang> couchdb:~alecu/databasename ?
[15:36] <alecu> CardinalFang, that makes sense...
[15:36] <alecu> CardinalFang, perhaps desktopcouch:~username/db
[15:36] <CardinalFang> +1
[15:37] <alecu> CardinalFang, I'll be adding a zg ontology to the couch event after this meeting.... I'll ask you to review it afterwards.
[15:38] <CardinalFang> alecu, gladly.
[16:18] <nessita> alecu:  approved
[16:19] <alecu> CardinalFang, here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Specs/ZeitgeistIntegration/EventsSpec#CouchDB%20replication%20events
[16:19] <nessita> though FF won't let me actually approve
[16:20] <nessita> alecu: now yes, approved
[16:20] <alecu> nessita, great, thanks!
[16:29]  * nessita -> lunch
[17:48] <CardinalFang> joshuahoover, I just uploaded a new music player to Android Market that should fix Bug #689856.
[17:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 689856 in ubuntuone-android-music "Song restarts downloading right after finishing (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689856
[17:48] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: excellent!
[17:48] <CardinalFang> joshuahoover, At least, the part I understand and found could be a problem.
[18:22] <alecu> ralsina, nessita: I think I'm done on the Shares UX bulletpoints. Do you care to review it?
[18:22] <nessita> alecu: I'll do it in a while, trying to round up a branch now
[18:23] <alecu> nessita, no prob.
[18:24] <ralsina> sure, I'll check in 5'
[18:27] <alecu> nessita, when you have some time, subscribe to Bug #677382
[18:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 677382 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 23 other projects) "gir-repository fails to build from source in natty: eliminate reverse dependencies (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677382
[18:30] <ralsina> alecu: no sabes lo dificil que es usar google docs cuando insiste en mostrar la UI en hebreo :-)
[18:31] <nessita> alecu: not sure I'm getting why I should subscribe to that bug
[18:31] <ralsina> Oh, there. google docs is in english now. Yay!
[18:32] <ralsina> alecu: I think naming can be a bit more consistent, like "A directory shared to a remote user can be deleted by the local user"
[18:32] <ralsina> instead of "to another user"
[18:32] <ralsina> And i think it's a bit confusing in that it could mean "delete the directory" or "stop sharing it"
[18:32] <alecu> fixin
[18:33] <alecu> nessita, you had gir-repository issues recently, didn't you? and it looks like it's going away anyway.
[18:34] <nessita> alecu: the problems I had we caused by automatic removal+adding, caused by python2-6 -> python2.7 (I think). But thanks for the pointer!
[18:39] <alecu> ralsina, replaced "to another user" by "to a remote user", and changed the "delete" phrasing to mean "stop sharing"
[19:28] <CardinalFang> karni, hi hi.
[19:28] <karni> CardinalFang: brb!
[19:30] <karni> CardinalFang: I'm here :)
[19:30] <karni> hi there!
[19:34]  * karni is on-line for the next 3,5 hours
[19:36] <ralsina> alecu: google docs has decided to stop working for me so I'll check the document and (maybe) make changes on monday. Don't worry, nothing big and nessita will check it too, I'm sure.
[19:37]  * nessita nods
[19:37] <nessita> I will hopefully add more relevant info
[20:05] <karni> Chipaca: seems like you've heard the news!
[20:06] <Chipaca> karni: I have! and danced the appropriate celebratory dances
[20:06] <karni> \o/ hahah
[20:06] <karni> you would *not* believe how happy and pleased I am!
[20:06] <Chipaca> :)
[20:07]  * karni has to jump on a skype call
[20:07] <karni> Chipaca: this is the best day ever!
[20:09] <Chipaca> karni: yep :)
[20:09] <Chipaca> karni: congratulations, and see you around (a lot :) )
[20:22] <karni> Chipaca: thank you :) you'll definitely see me here a *lot* :)
[20:22]  * karni goes off-line for 20 min, switching to Windows :F
[20:47]  * karni is back
[21:09] <CardinalFang> BRB, natty updates, reboot.
[21:44] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: android contacts sync issue... bug #691724 ...i got a log file, let me know if there's more info you (or someone else on the team?) could use to track down the problem
[21:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 691724 in ubuntuone-android-contacts "Contacts no longer sync (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691724
[21:45] <CardinalFang> beuno, did we stab that server yet?
[22:26] <beuno> CardinalFang, funambol?
[23:58]  * karni calls it a (great) day
[23:58] <karni> good night team ^ ^ !
[23:58] <karni> \o