[00:50] <ScottL> holstein, BenLoftis_ awesome!  I'll have to clear this with someone, but i would certainly be interested
[00:51] <ScottL> jussi, TheMuso , persia: do any of you know who i might contact regarding monies derived from selling ubuntu studio products or endorsements?
[00:52] <ScottL> as i mentioned before i would really like to sell ubuntu studio gear and fund some development or even possibly some artwork :)
[04:51] <ScottL> holstein, if you are trying to build rakarrack you will also need to install the package 'dpatch' before running debuild
[05:46] <holstein> ScottL: im not quite there
[05:46] <holstein> i got maverick and natty installed
[05:46] <holstein> got maverick pretty much set up today
[05:46] <holstein> the chroot
[05:46] <holstein> and a DL'd the rakarrack source
[05:47] <holstein> then i got busy
[10:24] <jussi> ScottL: this document is a good one. http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[13:23] <ScottL> outstanding, thank you jussi, i'll read that latter today
[13:24] <ScottL> holstein, if you follow the ubuntustudio/backportshowtohelp page and install the dpatch package then rakarrack builds well in pbuilder
[13:24]  * ScottL also updated the wiki page to include installing dpatch
[13:25] <ScottL> i suppose i might even look at including waf and scons at some point, perhaps with caveats of when i think they might be needed (e.g. ardour)
[13:34] <ScottL> wow, guitarix is really improving :) http://sourceforge.net/apps/wordpress/guitarix/2010/12/17/latest-development-snapshot/
[19:41] <holstein> ScottL: im going to make a little lunch, crack my knuckles, and give it a go :)
[19:58] <ScottL> oh good :)
[20:19] <ScottL> hi quadrispro :)
[20:20] <quadrispro> ehy ScottL |
[20:20] <quadrispro> !
[20:21] <quadrispro> I'm very sorry for the delay I use to reply to mail, messages etc
[20:21] <quadrispro> an interesting job is getting me very very busy
[20:34] <ScottL> quadrispro, i hadn't really notice any delay to be honest
[20:34] <ScottL> what is interesting about the job?
[20:35] <quadrispro> to achieve the best, i need to learn a lot about ubiquity
[20:36] <quadrispro> and debian-installer
[20:36] <quadrispro> and it's very exciting
[20:48] <ScottL> that is exciting quadrispro  :)
[20:49] <ScottL> i'm starting to learn more about setting xsessions, although i'm just scratching the surface, just enough to keep ubuntu studio to run with gnome xsession as default
[21:11] <holstein> ScottL: how much of ubuntustudio will i need?
[21:11] <holstein> installed
[21:11] <holstein> im getting a debuild error
[21:12] <holstein> and looking in /usr/bin/debuild makes me think i dont have all the packages i need
[21:12] <ScottL> holstein, if you follow my backports guide you should have all that you need
[21:13] <ScottL> in fact you don't even need ubuntu studio at all, it can be vanilla ubuntu
[21:13] <ScottL> you actually only need to install a few fundemental packages for building
[21:14] <ScottL> your pbuilder environment will temporarily download all the necessary dependencies for each package you are building
[21:14] <ScottL> this way it doesn't clog up your system
[21:14] <ScottL> with installing metric tonnes of ancillary packages
[21:15] <ScottL> holstein, if you are _not_ using the pbuilder environment then you _will_ need to install all the dependencies for each package you are building
[21:16] <holstein> this is in the debuild -S -sd command
[21:16] <holstein> im going to google around a bit
[21:17] <holstein> i dont know why i thought it would be easy ;)
[21:24] <holstein> im not sure... from what im finding, it points to a dependancy issue
[21:25] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/545051/
[21:26] <holstein> hmmm
[21:26] <holstein> now im not sure again...
[21:27] <holstein> whatever, i just got started... i'll try again later
[21:30] <holstein> hmm
[21:30] <holstein> you know, i havent updated this install yet
[21:30] <holstein> it could be that simple
[21:30] <holstein> an updated version of someting i need to have
[21:31] <holstein> i'll get that going on while im out for the gig
[21:31] <holstein> and freak out on it more later
[21:44] <ScottL> holstein, you needs to install cdbs
[21:44] <ScottL> some builds use cdbs instead of automake or whatever
[21:44] <ScottL> debian/rules:4: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk: No such file or directory
[21:44] <ScottL> debian/rules:5: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/dpatch.mk: No such file or directory
[21:44] <ScottL> debian/rules:6: /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/autotools.mk: No such file or directory
[21:45] <ScottL> those lines tell me that
[21:45] <ScottL> holstein, make sure you follow this part:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/BackportsHowToHelp#Packages%20for%20Building
[21:47] <ScottL>  
[21:48] <ScottL> holstein, i tested built rakarrack using my backports how to and it went really smoothly except i needed to add dpatch (which should now be in the instructions)
[21:48] <ScottL> so, there's no need to freak out :)
[21:48] <holstein> yeah :)
[21:48] <ScottL> if you follow the instructions everything should go smoothly
[21:48] <holstein> i go sudo apt-get install build-essential quilt cdbs dpatch
[21:49] <ScottL> yes, use the terminal
[21:49] <ScottL> or install those packages using synaptic
[21:49] <holstein> yeah
[21:49] <holstein> i got them*
[21:49] <holstein> not sure what the hang up is
[21:49] <ScottL> are you sure about the cdbs?
[21:50] <holstein> no ;)
[21:50]  * holstein looking
[21:51] <holstein> eh, i'll have to check later
[21:51]  * ScottL is away looking at his inkscape build upstairs
[21:51] <holstein> i just copied and pasted though
[21:51] <holstein> and didnt get any errors
[21:52] <holstein> anyhow, i gotta run to the gig
[21:52] <holstein> ScottL: thanks :)
[21:52] <holstein> im sure its something stupid on my end that i'll sort out
[21:52] <holstein> growing pains :)
[21:52] <holstein> BBL...
[21:53] <ScottL> okay, i'll be around :)
[22:03] <holstein> ScottL: yeah, totally skipped a step there
[22:03] <holstein> it worked
[22:04] <holstein> i gotta sort out my GPG key, and im rocking/rolling
[22:04] <holstein> ...laterx
[22:09] <ScottL> oh good!  :)   glad to see it moving forward then