micahg | mr_pouit: am I ok to upload a similar powerpc fix for exo to the one that doko did for libsfce4ui? | 07:15 |
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micahg | mr_pouit: oh, I guess you did it 5 minutes before I had it ready :-/ | 07:33 |
mr_pouit | micahg: eh sorry, I saw the ftbfs mail when I woke up, so I uploaded the fix immediately ;] | 09:07 |
charlie-tca | Good morning | 12:56 |
charlie-tca | mr_pouit: fresh install today, desktop does not start; live cd same - desktop does not start. It is installed. I can start it myself. | 14:26 |
mr_pouit | not sure why, I tried the current i386 daily image this morning, and it started :] | 14:32 |
charlie-tca | I just ran it on hardware, got panels without the desktop wallpaper. | 14:32 |
charlie-tca | I can't get virtualbox to work in Natty now. | 14:33 |
charlie-tca | Maybe it dislikes my ATI 9800 ? | 14:34 |
charlie-tca | Oh, wait. This is yesterday's live cd | 14:35 |
charlie-tca | Today's failed to build | 14:35 |
mr_pouit | I don't know, I still need to disable "launch gnome services" in the default config, otherwise xfce4-session will try to start half of gnome (i.e. even desktop files with OnlyShowIn=GNOME;) afaik | 14:36 |
mr_pouit | yeah, it failed | 14:36 |
charlie-tca | great... I will wait for another build to file bugs | 14:36 |
mr_pouit | but it won't affect existing configs | 14:39 |
mr_pouit | so you should uncheck the box in xfce4-session settings ;) | 14:40 |
charlie-tca | This is running the live cd | 14:40 |
mr_pouit | and see if it's better | 14:40 |
mr_pouit | mmh, ok | 14:40 |
mr_pouit | anything in .xsession-errors ? | 14:40 |
charlie-tca | My install is working | 14:40 |
charlie-tca | forgot to look | 14:41 |
charlie-tca | doesn't look like it | 14:44 |
charlie-tca | We can wait and see next week | 14:44 |
mr_pouit | charlie-tca: is apport following your gtk+ theme? | 14:51 |
charlie-tca | I don't understand | 14:52 |
mr_pouit | charlie-tca: the apport window that appears, is it correctly themed? | 14:52 |
charlie-tca | I haven't seen an apport crash on natty in the panel | 14:52 |
mr_pouit | when I tried this morning, it was "plain ugly grey" | 14:52 |
charlie-tca | heh | 14:53 |
mr_pouit | mmh, maybe you can make it appear with "apport-bug" | 14:53 |
mr_pouit | (in a terminal) | 14:53 |
charlie-tca | I haven't seen any crashes come up | 14:53 |
mr_pouit | yeah yeah, I know, I had to provoke one to see apport ;> | 14:54 |
charlie-tca | checking | 14:54 |
charlie-tca | what package works? | 14:55 |
charlie-tca | linux and thunar and vbox are not guenuine packages | 14:55 |
charlie-tca | I can't force one | 14:56 |
charlie-tca | apparently all my packages are "not a genuine Xubuntu package" | 14:56 |
charlie-tca | lol; must have faked everything on here... ;-) | 14:57 |
charlie-tca | I like greybird more than bluebird | 15:29 |
charlie-tca | just my 2 cents | 15:29 |
mr_pouit | hehe | 15:29 |
mr_pouit | if you add xfce4-verve-plugin, can you see what you type in the tex area ? | 15:30 |
mr_pouit | *text | 15:30 |
mr_pouit | with bluebird it seems to be white on white ;) | 15:30 |
charlie-tca | it worked with dictionary plugin, let me check | 15:30 |
mr_pouit | no need to, if it works with dict-plugin, it's okay | 15:31 |
charlie-tca | going to verify anyway, maybe I used a different theme when I tested it | 15:32 |
charlie-tca | isn't white on white hard to see? | 15:33 |
charlie-tca | very light gray on white | 15:34 |
charlie-tca | very hard to see in greybird too | 15:34 |
charlie-tca | I have to hilight the text to see it | 15:35 |
mr_pouit | yeah, with bluebird it's invisible :p | 15:37 |
charlie-tca | I will have to install a floppy drive in a test unit to check the bugs from that. My system with the working drive lost the motherboard | 15:40 |
charlie-tca | mr_pouit: are we really going to try and support floppy drives in Natty? | 15:42 |
mr_pouit | "[Build #2081503] powerpc build of xfce4-panel 4.7.6-0ubuntu1 in ubuntu natty RELEASE" <<< micahg, it's for you if you want :P (I will only be at home in 2~3h, so I'll do it if you haven't done it already ;) | 15:43 |
mr_pouit | charlie-tca: if gio supports mounting floppy drives, yeah ;> | 15:43 |
mr_pouit | otherwise, we don't care | 15:43 |
charlie-tca | Okay, I will check it out then. | 15:43 |
mr_pouit | micahg: oops, nvm, doko was faster :p | 15:47 |
ochosi | hi everyone | 16:24 |
ochosi | about the invisible text: i'll check it out in a few mins, have to reboot to natty | 16:25 |
ochosi | haven't noticed that problem yet though | 16:25 |
ochosi | maybe some new behaviour of murrine... | 16:25 |
charlie-tca | It is only the panel apps, as far as I know | 16:26 |
ochosi | aha | 16:26 |
ochosi | interesting | 16:26 |
ochosi | true | 16:26 |
ochosi | it's the same in maverick | 16:26 |
ochosi | thanks for reporting that | 16:26 |
ochosi | is it problematic in any other plugin than verve? | 16:27 |
charlie-tca | xfce4-dictionary | 16:28 |
ochosi | mhm | 16:28 |
ochosi | kay, i'll try to fix the panel code asap | 16:28 |
charlie-tca | We seem to be a bit fussy now. Wanting to read the text that got typed! ;-) | 16:28 |
ochosi | btw, i made a new gtk-scale style for greybird, will push that in a few mins | 16:29 |
ochosi | would be interested what you say | 16:29 |
ochosi | it should be more visible and better for accessibility now | 16:29 |
charlie-tca | I like that idea | 16:29 |
ochosi | i'll maybe also try to quickly fix the panel-text problem | 16:30 |
ochosi | k, i fixed it | 16:38 |
ochosi | i'll commit the stuff in a few mins | 16:38 |
ochosi | can any of you test the fix on natty? | 16:38 |
charlie-tca | yup | 16:38 |
charlie-tca | let me know | 16:38 |
ochosi | charlie-tca: just pushed the changes, should now be available in the hg-repo | 16:41 |
charlie-tca | okay | 16:42 |
charlie-tca | Looks the same | 17:00 |
ochosi | really? | 17:00 |
charlie-tca | yup | 17:00 |
ochosi | k, will check myself quickly in natty | 17:00 |
charlie-tca | I have to hilight the text to see that I typed it | 17:00 |
ochosi | the fix worked in maverick | 17:00 |
ochosi | brb | 17:00 |
charlie-tca | ochosi: it works now in verve plugin but not in dictionary plugin | 17:02 |
charlie-tca | Letters are very sharp in verve plugin | 17:02 |
ochosi | charlie-tca: please specify the dict-problem | 17:04 |
ochosi | dict is only a launcher button as far as i can see | 17:04 |
ochosi | ah right | 17:05 |
ochosi | now i see | 17:05 |
charlie-tca | When you add it to the panel, you add a book and a blank | 17:05 |
ochosi | well, not by default | 17:05 |
charlie-tca | no? mine did | 17:05 |
ochosi | by default it's without the textbox in the panel (at least here) | 17:05 |
ochosi | but nevermind, i'll fix it | 17:05 |
charlie-tca | Thanks | 17:06 |
charlie-tca | sorry for the confusion | 17:06 |
ochosi | no problem | 17:06 |
ochosi | it's a pity that the systray is still broken | 17:07 |
charlie-tca | +1 | 17:08 |
charlie-tca | But, they don't shrink all the way gone everyday :-) | 17:09 |
ochosi | :) | 17:09 |
ochosi | hm, strange that the fix doesn't apply for the dict-plugin, it's using the same widget as the verve plugin | 17:10 |
charlie-tca | hm, before we couldn't type in either one, but that got fixed finally | 17:11 |
ochosi | hm, i think i won't have enough time to fix xfce-dict for now, g2g | 17:16 |
ochosi | i'll put it on the todo-list for greybird | 17:16 |
charlie-tca | That works, too. Didn't expect you to jump right in | 17:17 |
ochosi | well, it seemed easy to figure out ;) | 17:18 |
ochosi | how do you like the new scale style? | 17:18 |
ochosi | (it's that widget you can see as progressbar of a video/audio in parole) | 17:19 |
ochosi | i guess you have to play a file to really see how it works/looks | 17:19 |
ochosi | charlie-tca: in case i forget about the dict-bug please remind me | 17:22 |
ochosi | g2g now | 17:22 |
charlie-tca | Oh, | 17:22 |
charlie-tca | I don't do well with that, but will check it out in a bit | 17:22 |
charlie-tca | Thanks | 17:22 |
ochosi | k, see you | 17:22 |
charlie-tca | mr_pouit: I can not get Natty to recognize the floppy drive. I don't know if there is a udev rule for it even. | 18:15 |
mr_pouit | I only have laptops here, so no more floppy disk for me :p | 18:16 |
charlie-tca | Well, I get the drive in lucid, but not maverick or natty | 18:16 |
charlie-tca | I can't force a mount even, because it isn't in /dev | 18:16 |
mr_pouit | yeah, then probably a kernel or udev issue | 18:17 |
charlie-tca | Want to kill the bug reports on floppies then? | 18:17 |
mr_pouit | I don't think the original reporter still cares | 18:18 |
charlie-tca | I will take care of it. | 18:18 |
micahg | mr_pouit: the xdg applications list moving to /usr/share doesn't change anything WRT its purpose, right? | 20:49 |
mr_pouit | micahg: it shouldn't | 20:56 |
micahg | mr_pouit: ok, I'll update the firefox apparmor profile then | 20:57 |
mr_pouit | putting it to /etc was probably a mistake in the first time ;[ | 20:57 |
micahg | mr_pouit: because it's not meant to be changed? | 20:58 |
mr_pouit | yeah, and all desktop files added would be marked as conffiles, so not really usable | 20:59 |
micahg | ok, cool | 20:59 |
mr_pouit | (there will be already enough rm_conffile stuff because of the 4.6 -> 4.8 transition) | 21:00 |
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