[07:15] mr_pouit: am I ok to upload a similar powerpc fix for exo to the one that doko did for libsfce4ui? [07:33] mr_pouit: oh, I guess you did it 5 minutes before I had it ready :-/ [09:07] micahg: eh sorry, I saw the ftbfs mail when I woke up, so I uploaded the fix immediately ;] [12:56] Good morning [14:26] mr_pouit: fresh install today, desktop does not start; live cd same - desktop does not start. It is installed. I can start it myself. [14:32] not sure why, I tried the current i386 daily image this morning, and it started :] [14:32] I just ran it on hardware, got panels without the desktop wallpaper. [14:33] I can't get virtualbox to work in Natty now. [14:34] Maybe it dislikes my ATI 9800 ? [14:35] Oh, wait. This is yesterday's live cd [14:35] Today's failed to build [14:36] I don't know, I still need to disable "launch gnome services" in the default config, otherwise xfce4-session will try to start half of gnome (i.e. even desktop files with OnlyShowIn=GNOME;) afaik [14:36] yeah, it failed [14:36] great... I will wait for another build to file bugs [14:39] but it won't affect existing configs [14:40] so you should uncheck the box in xfce4-session settings ;) [14:40] This is running the live cd [14:40] and see if it's better [14:40] mmh, ok [14:40] anything in .xsession-errors ? [14:40] My install is working [14:41] forgot to look [14:44] doesn't look like it [14:44] We can wait and see next week [14:51] charlie-tca: is apport following your gtk+ theme? [14:52] I don't understand [14:52] charlie-tca: the apport window that appears, is it correctly themed? [14:52] I haven't seen an apport crash on natty in the panel [14:52] when I tried this morning, it was "plain ugly grey" [14:53] heh [14:53] mmh, maybe you can make it appear with "apport-bug" [14:53] (in a terminal) [14:53] I haven't seen any crashes come up [14:54] yeah yeah, I know, I had to provoke one to see apport ;> [14:54] checking [14:55] what package works? [14:55] linux and thunar and vbox are not guenuine packages [14:56] I can't force one [14:56] apparently all my packages are "not a genuine Xubuntu package" [14:57] lol; must have faked everything on here... ;-) [15:29] I like greybird more than bluebird [15:29] just my 2 cents [15:29] hehe [15:30] if you add xfce4-verve-plugin, can you see what you type in the tex area ? [15:30] *text [15:30] with bluebird it seems to be white on white ;) [15:30] it worked with dictionary plugin, let me check [15:31] no need to, if it works with dict-plugin, it's okay [15:32] going to verify anyway, maybe I used a different theme when I tested it [15:33] isn't white on white hard to see? [15:34] very light gray on white [15:34] very hard to see in greybird too [15:35] I have to hilight the text to see it [15:37] yeah, with bluebird it's invisible :p [15:40] I will have to install a floppy drive in a test unit to check the bugs from that. My system with the working drive lost the motherboard [15:42] mr_pouit: are we really going to try and support floppy drives in Natty? [15:43] "[Build #2081503] powerpc build of xfce4-panel 4.7.6-0ubuntu1 in ubuntu natty RELEASE" <<< micahg, it's for you if you want :P (I will only be at home in 2~3h, so I'll do it if you haven't done it already ;) [15:43] charlie-tca: if gio supports mounting floppy drives, yeah ;> [15:43] otherwise, we don't care [15:43] Okay, I will check it out then. [15:47] micahg: oops, nvm, doko was faster :p [16:24] hi everyone [16:25] about the invisible text: i'll check it out in a few mins, have to reboot to natty [16:25] haven't noticed that problem yet though [16:25] maybe some new behaviour of murrine... [16:26] It is only the panel apps, as far as I know [16:26] aha [16:26] interesting [16:26] true [16:26] it's the same in maverick [16:26] thanks for reporting that [16:27] is it problematic in any other plugin than verve? [16:28] xfce4-dictionary [16:28] mhm [16:28] kay, i'll try to fix the panel code asap [16:28] We seem to be a bit fussy now. Wanting to read the text that got typed! ;-) [16:29] btw, i made a new gtk-scale style for greybird, will push that in a few mins [16:29] would be interested what you say [16:29] it should be more visible and better for accessibility now [16:29] I like that idea [16:30] i'll maybe also try to quickly fix the panel-text problem [16:38] k, i fixed it [16:38] i'll commit the stuff in a few mins [16:38] can any of you test the fix on natty? [16:38] yup [16:38] let me know [16:41] charlie-tca: just pushed the changes, should now be available in the hg-repo [16:42] okay [17:00] Looks the same [17:00] really? [17:00] yup [17:00] k, will check myself quickly in natty [17:00] I have to hilight the text to see that I typed it [17:00] the fix worked in maverick [17:00] brb [17:02] ochosi: it works now in verve plugin but not in dictionary plugin [17:02] Letters are very sharp in verve plugin [17:04] charlie-tca: please specify the dict-problem [17:04] dict is only a launcher button as far as i can see [17:05] ah right [17:05] now i see [17:05] When you add it to the panel, you add a book and a blank [17:05] well, not by default [17:05] no? mine did [17:05] by default it's without the textbox in the panel (at least here) [17:05] but nevermind, i'll fix it [17:06] Thanks [17:06] sorry for the confusion [17:06] no problem [17:07] it's a pity that the systray is still broken [17:08] +1 [17:09] But, they don't shrink all the way gone everyday :-) [17:09] :) [17:10] hm, strange that the fix doesn't apply for the dict-plugin, it's using the same widget as the verve plugin [17:11] hm, before we couldn't type in either one, but that got fixed finally [17:16] hm, i think i won't have enough time to fix xfce-dict for now, g2g [17:16] i'll put it on the todo-list for greybird [17:17] That works, too. Didn't expect you to jump right in [17:18] well, it seemed easy to figure out ;) [17:18] how do you like the new scale style? [17:19] (it's that widget you can see as progressbar of a video/audio in parole) [17:19] i guess you have to play a file to really see how it works/looks [17:22] charlie-tca: in case i forget about the dict-bug please remind me [17:22] g2g now [17:22] Oh, [17:22] I don't do well with that, but will check it out in a bit [17:22] Thanks [17:22] k, see you [18:15] mr_pouit: I can not get Natty to recognize the floppy drive. I don't know if there is a udev rule for it even. [18:16] I only have laptops here, so no more floppy disk for me :p [18:16] Well, I get the drive in lucid, but not maverick or natty [18:16] I can't force a mount even, because it isn't in /dev [18:17] yeah, then probably a kernel or udev issue [18:17] Want to kill the bug reports on floppies then? [18:18] I don't think the original reporter still cares [18:18] I will take care of it. [20:49] mr_pouit: the xdg applications list moving to /usr/share doesn't change anything WRT its purpose, right? [20:56] micahg: it shouldn't [20:57] mr_pouit: ok, I'll update the firefox apparmor profile then [20:57] putting it to /etc was probably a mistake in the first time ;[ [20:58] mr_pouit: because it's not meant to be changed? [20:59] yeah, and all desktop files added would be marked as conffiles, so not really usable [20:59] ok, cool [21:00] (there will be already enough rm_conffile stuff because of the 4.6 -> 4.8 transition)