[01:32] <freebird> gr8m8 you there
[01:36] <freebird> i have a question can you run a kubuntu app on xubuntu as this file? If i do install this should it work?   kb2kskype_0.3.8-1_i386_kubuntu8042.deb
[01:37] <charlie-tca> I don't know if that one will work. If the application is in the Ubuntu Repositories, it wil
[01:38] <charlie-tca> That would depend on whether or not you have the dependcies satisfied for it
[01:39] <freebird> ok then other question would be would i have a good chance of being able to install the dependcies if i know what they are
[01:41] <charlie-tca> yes, you would install them using synaptic Package Manager
[01:44] <freebird> thank you charlie sorry to bother ya but i had to break the silence in here to see if there was a chance of making this work
[01:46] <charlie-tca> There is always a chance
[01:46] <charlie-tca> sometimes it is really slim, though
[01:46] <freebird> but isn't there a chance you will break something in the process
[01:46] <charlie-tca> sure
[01:46] <charlie-tca> That is also very possible
[01:47] <freebird> lol thats what i try to avoid lol
[01:47] <charlie-tca> But if you can't break it, how can you learn to fix it?
[01:47] <charlie-tca> OTOH, I have reinstalled 4-5 times in a day, too
[01:47] <charlie-tca> I don't learn so easy, sometimes
[01:48] <charlie-tca> Really cleans the drive up after you mess the partitioning up, too
[01:48] <freebird> true lol lol i have to i have somehow lost all sudo rights and tried to fix it from the cd and no go i had reformatted twice that day
[01:49] <charlie-tca> yeah, that one day I had to reinstall so many times, I finally erased the whole hard drive.
[01:51] <freebird> lol been there before but thats half the fun the tinkering with it to make it work but ussually when it breaks it is when you don't have the time to fix it and you need to get something done on your pc :P
[01:52] <charlie-tca> yup
[01:55] <freebird> charlie-tca,  do you have any ideal why when i convert a .mkv to avi with aviedmux all my movies are black with sound even the ones that worked before
[01:55] <charlie-tca> Don't know
[01:56] <charlie-tca> Someone else here might, but I am the worst there is at video stuff
[01:56] <charlie-tca> problem:  google is not in english? How do I fix that?
[01:56] <freebird> to fix it i have to remove gstreamer and aviedmux and reinstall them
[01:56] <charlie-tca> I can only read about 1/4 of the stuff on the page
[01:57] <freebird> google isn't in english you are probaly running a proxy
[01:57] <charlie-tca> nope
[01:57] <charlie-tca> firewall? or I switch google tracking to a dead end?
[01:57] <freebird> in the address bar what website  is there
[01:58] <charlie-tca> It's the search www.google.com/search
[01:58] <freebird> neither can cause it google tracking is dead end here to
[01:59] <charlie-tca> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=pci%3Duse_crs&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[01:59] <freebird> try just google.com and look for en on the page to click lol if still not in english
[01:59] <charlie-tca> I can't read the parts that say that
[02:00] <charlie-tca> lol
[02:01] <freebird> lol something with your fonts maybe or language settings
[02:01] <freebird> not sure lol
[02:01] <freebird> its a odd issue
[02:01] <charlie-tca> here's my headings -
[02:01] <charlie-tca> ᎤᏂᎳᏛ ᎤᏓᏴᎳᏛᎢ Realtime ᏚᎾᏓᏡᎬ
[02:01] <charlie-tca> ᏁᎵᏍᏔᏅᏒ | ᏣᏲᎦ ᏕᎦᎧᎲᎢ | ᎠᏴᏍᏗ
[02:01] <charlie-tca> Google
[02:01] <charlie-tca> which one is EN?
[02:02] <charlie-tca> pretty, though, huh?
[02:02] <freebird> lol do we know what language this might be
[02:02] <charlie-tca> I don't have any idea
[02:02] <freebird> lol 1 sec maybe babblefish can be of help
[02:04] <charlie-tca> Don't worry about it. I will work on it later. Got to try and fix my VirtualBox setup
[02:07] <charlie-tca> When I break it....
[02:07] <freebird> ᏣᏲᎦ ᏕᎦᎧᎲᎢ   = language Translation
[02:08] <freebird> bablefish.com FTW
[02:08] <charlie-tca> What language did it say?
[02:09] <charlie-tca> google translate says "No definitions found"
[02:09] <freebird> it didn't say i selected unknown
[02:10] <freebird> lol
[02:11] <charlie-tca> y
[02:11] <freebird> it don't make any sense does it
[02:11] <charlie-tca> I might be a little bit frustrated tonight :-(
[02:12] <freebird> maybe tommorrow would be better day to work on it
[02:12] <charlie-tca> You should try using Google with all that on there. I can read half a dozen words on each line
[02:13] <charlie-tca> I don't know if the links are going to be in English or curlicues
[02:13] <freebird> is google the only sight that is like that
[02:13] <freebird> yahoo.com
[02:14] <charlie-tca> it is the one I use
[02:14] <freebird> so yahoo is in english or no?
[02:15] <charlie-tca> I haven't looked
[02:15] <charlie-tca> rebooting again
[02:15] <charlie-tca> I am pretty sure it is google, though
[02:16] <freebird> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=581638f51350589b&hl=en
[02:16] <freebird> is that in english?
[02:18] <charlie-tca> yup
[02:18] <freebird> does that site help any
[02:21] <charlie-tca> this does - I've managed to find out a way to make google english permanently. All you need to do is type- http://www.google.com/intl/en/      instead of-     http://www.google.com
[02:22] <charlie-tca> from that page. Thanks
[02:23] <freebird> np lol glad it helped
[02:24] <freebird> i bet it was frusterating
[02:28] <freebird> you don't need to put that in everytime do ya
[02:30] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I will find out next time I try to use it.
[02:31] <charlie-tca> I wrote it down, though
[02:32] <freebird> ok you may want to copy and paste to document before you forget
[02:32] <freebird> good
[02:34] <freebird> charlie-tca,  thanks for your help glad i was able to help you also
[02:35] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[02:35] <charlie-tca> I appreciate any help
[02:35] <freebird> thats why we hang out in here  to help each other
[02:35] <charlie-tca> now I got to go fix the computer. I broke natty again
[02:35] <freebird> opps
[02:42] <freebird> !unity
[02:43] <charlie-tca> heh
[02:44] <freebird> lol the gui ubuntu is going to in 11.04
[02:44] <charlie-tca> yup
[02:44] <charlie-tca> I test it during the iso testing stage
[02:45] <charlie-tca> Also writing the tests for accessibility with it, and testing the screen reader parts
[02:45] <freebird> i can't find a thing in it
[02:45] <charlie-tca> nope
[02:45] <charlie-tca> try clicking the ubuntu logo
[02:45] <charlie-tca> Ctrl+Alt+t should open a terminal
[02:45] <freebird> i don't understand why they are switching to it thou
[02:46] <charlie-tca> Gnome switched from compiz to mutter, and it doesn't work on too many computers
[02:46] <charlie-tca> Unity will use compiz
[02:47] <charlie-tca> And the official reason... Unity is used on netbooks, now it will give a UNIFIED experience on both netbooks, and desktops
[02:47] <freebird> oh ok that part makes sense but if they are shooting for user freindly thats not it lol
[02:48] <charlie-tca> no, it was originally designed to make maximum use of the odd screens in netbooks, wide but short
[02:49] <freebird> do you help code any of the features?
[02:50] <freebird> or just help tst
[02:50] <freebird> test
[02:50] <charlie-tca> no, I am not a programmer/coder
[02:50] <charlie-tca> I test, I write wiki pages, I write testcase howto's , I triage bugs
[02:50] <charlie-tca> for accessibility
[02:51] <charlie-tca> I test, I triage bugs, I am the interim project lead for xubuntu
[02:51] <freebird> i want to learn but how to code but so far have yet to learn
[02:51] <charlie-tca> I am braindead, can't learn the new programming languages
[02:52] <freebird> it doesn't make sense to me either but bacic c in the 80's i can right in it but nothing else
[02:52] <freebird> its all mono
[02:52] <charlie-tca> Heh, no, it's python now
[02:53] <freebird> lol yeah now days its python and c++
[02:53] <freebird> and pearl
[02:55] <freebird> this place has been dead alday
[02:56] <charlie-tca> It is like that here. Not as busy as some channels
[02:56] <freebird> they other days like yesterday where there are tons of issues
[03:19] <xubuntu1969> olá
[03:19] <charlie-tca> !hi | xubuntu1969
[03:19] <xubuntu1969> que tal o Xubuntu?
[03:20] <xubuntu1969> lang pt-br
[03:20] <charlie-tca> !br
[03:20] <charlie-tca> Sorry, english here
[03:20] <xubuntu1969> ok
[03:20] <charlie-tca> #ubuntu-br should help
[03:21] <charlie-tca> no, #ubuntu-pt
[03:21] <xubuntu1969> so... what about Xubuntu?
[03:21] <xubuntu1969> works fine?
[03:21] <charlie-tca> this is the Xubuntu channel. If you need help in your language, either of those can help you.
[03:21] <charlie-tca> Yes, works very good now
[03:22] <xubuntu1969> where r u from charlie-tca?
[03:22] <charlie-tca> Less memory then Ubuntu
[03:22] <charlie-tca> United States, Idaho
[03:24] <xubuntu1969> i  have it installed right now
[03:25] <charlie-tca> Very good. It is a good choice
[03:26] <charlie-tca> We think it looks better than Ubuntu, too
[03:28]  * likemindead concurs.
[03:29] <likemindead> I tried to install UNE 10.10 on my old PIII 700MHz / 1GB RAM laptop earlier today.
[03:29] <likemindead> It was a no go.
[03:29] <likemindead> Put Xubuntu 10.10 on there & it's Teh Awesomesauce.
[03:31] <charlie-tca> Yeah, 10.10 works pretty good with enough ram
[03:31] <likemindead> Flash is rough, but that's all.
[03:31] <charlie-tca> Ram is the big thing. short it and you run slow now
[03:32] <likemindead> http://tinyogg.com/ <-- Helpful.
[03:32] <charlie-tca> nice
[03:34] <likemindead> The queue is a bit back up. :-\
[03:34] <likemindead> Love the concept, though.
[04:23] <pdxanna> hi all how is everyone
[04:25] <pdxanna> i usually deal on ubuntu but have been working with xubuntu on an older thinkpad -- is anyone available to assist with editing grub to force complete shutdown?
[04:25] <pdxanna> as is described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1511225
[04:32] <gr8m8> pdxanna: that doesn't mention shutdown - what do you want to do ?
[04:34] <pdxanna> oh sorry, let me double check myself :P
[04:34] <gr8m8> grub has nothing to do with the shutdown process
[04:34] <pdxanna> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/32490
[04:35] <pdxanna> the issue is that when shutdown is selected this thinkpad hangs and does not shut down completely
[04:36] <roccity_> pdxanna, sorry not to jump in but are you using a gui like gdm to log in or are you starting from a login prompt?
[04:36] <pdxanna> using a gui
[04:37] <pdxanna> and then when shutting down, just clicking the icon in the top right corner
[04:37] <roccity_> pdxanna, does it drop you to gdm again?
[04:38] <pdxanna> no, it shows script like normal and then the script hangs on the screen -- so we end up with a black screen with script frozen
[04:38] <gr8m8> pdxanna: the file you want to edit is /etc/default/grub it has the kernel line like menu.lst used to - then you run in terminal   sudo update-grub
[04:39] <pdxanna> whew thank you
[04:39] <gr8m8> np :)
[04:39] <pdxanna> i guess my other question is there is a way to edit the template so that when kernel updates renew the file it won't wipe out "acpi=force apm=power_off"
[04:39] <roccity_> pdxanna, does it do it as well when running shutdown -p now from a terminal?
[04:40] <pdxanna> i think so roccity
[04:40] <pdxanna> the only thing that's normal is rebooting
[04:40] <gr8m8> it's because of an old bios apparently
[04:40] <pdxanna> lol
[04:41] <pdxanna> i'm a newb to begin with but this is my first xubuntu system
[04:41] <gr8m8> but I had the same problem here and reseating the memory fixed it
[04:41] <pdxanna> well i will check the memory as well.
[04:42] <pdxanna> i'll check out the etc file.  thank you!
[04:43] <pdxanna> thanks much everyone.  have a good nite
[07:58] <Arpit> i downloaded xubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64 then i use unetbootin and after booting through pen drive it says
[07:58] <Arpit> no init found.try passing init= bootarg
[07:58] <Arpit> busbox v1.15.3(ubuntu 1:1.15.3-1ubuntu5) built in shell (ash)
[07:58] <Arpit> enter help for a list of boot in commands	
[07:58] <Arpit> (initrants) _
[07:58] <Arpit> can anyone tell me what should i do?
[08:12] <Arpit> hey i downloaded iso file for ubuntu9.10 and i burned it in dvd then i reboot my windows with dvd in it and then after selecting language it opens into linux mint desktop and my touch pad its not working and neither its detecting my internet connection ,what should i do ??
[08:13] <Myrtti> linux mint? that's weird.
[08:13] <Sysi> 9.10 isn't quite up-to-date
[08:38] <Kymeron> how do I set a local port for a system wide proxy?
[08:40] <Kymeron> I am running tinyproxy on this laptop and want to force all traffic through the proxy to be logged, ie, so in firefox you can not just set the connection to direct internet and get unfiltered internet
[13:27] <nicofs> How can i open a remote folder with samba? "smb://IP-Adress"...
[13:53] <nicofs> How can i open a shared windows folder? I tried to mount it using smbmount and using "mount -a" after editing /etc/fstab. All i get is No such device or address.
[13:57] <Sysi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide
[14:59] <MorphixNW> would anyone be interesting in helping me out with a project? I feel it could be too much for myself to handle alone at this point :(
[15:06] <TheSheep> MorphixNW: what have you got so far?
[15:08] <MorphixNW> I have an idea of what I want to do, I have the hardware to do it with, but the software is the part I am struggling to find
[15:09] <MorphixNW> if/when the project is complete there would be no reason why it could not be sold for profit to many people :)
[15:10] <MorphixNW> because of course there would be no charge for the software itself, just the hardware
[15:12] <TheSheep> I wonder if there is ##freelancing or some similar channel you could visit to ask about it
[15:12] <MorphixNW> I dont wish to give out too information about the project publically for obvious reasons :)
[15:12] <MorphixNW> !freelance
[15:13] <TheSheep> no, there is not
[15:13] <MorphixNW> !projects
[15:13] <TheSheep> well, tough luck, better learn to program yourself
[15:13] <TheSheep> I recommend #python
[15:13] <MorphixNW> thats very polite of you :)
[15:14] <MorphixNW> thank you
[15:15] <TheSheep> don't mention it, and feel free to ask here anytime you have trouble with your xubuntu
[15:16] <MorphixNW> !epos
[16:57] <hish> hello the xfce notification appear over each other
[16:57] <hish> can we modify the setting to let them appear as a stack ?
[17:48] <MorphixNW> it is possible to fun ubuntu headlessly, but... make the system boot into a GUI based application?
[17:48] <MorphixNW> fun = run*
[17:49] <charlie-tca> gui needs a screen
[17:49] <charlie-tca> but you could use vnc to run it
[17:49] <Sysi> that's not very hard, depending on application and how well you need to do it
[17:49] <MorphixNW> it was possible to do it I am sure, however, I have only seen this done with a program called XBMC
[17:51] <TheSheep> you can also use that application as your window manager
[17:51] <TheSheep> I've did that with firefox in kiosk mode
[17:51] <Sysi> you can open window directly fullscreen with WM, or pure X11
[17:51] <MorphixNW> sounds like what I am looking to do
[17:58] <MorphixNW> TheSheep: Could you possibly point in the direction of how to go about doing that?
[17:59] <MorphixNW> quick google search didnt help massively, but I might be searching for the wrong thing :(
[17:59] <TheSheep> MorphixNW: you want to make your own custom gdm session
[17:59] <TheSheep> MorphixNW: one that starts your program instead of xfce
[17:59] <TheSheep> (or gnome)
[17:59] <MorphixNW> yes that seems to be what I want to do
[17:59] <MorphixNW> I am not sure on the terminology
[18:00] <MorphixNW> basically I want to give as much resource to the program as possible
[18:00] <MorphixNW> the system will be built to run just this application
[18:00] <TheSheep> which resource?
[18:00] <MorphixNW> all
[18:00] <MorphixNW> memory and CPU
[18:01] <MorphixNW> I would also like the system to bootup as fast as possible
[18:01] <TheSheep> in that case why do you even need linux? write your program as an operating system
[18:01] <MorphixNW> I have a program installed that I wish to use already
[18:02] <TheSheep> the session definitions are in /usr/share/xsessions/
[18:02] <MorphixNW> thank you
[18:02] <TheSheep> you can copy one of them (the xterm probably is the simplest) and play with them
[18:04] <share> how can i disable login keyring
[18:04] <TheSheep> share: why would you?
[18:04] <share> TheSheep: i want wireless to connect automatically
[18:04] <share> it's always asking for the password
[18:04] <share> annoying
[18:05] <TheSheep> share: then set an empty password, it won't ask again
[18:05] <TheSheep> for the keyring, that is
[18:05] <share> TheSheep: how can i change that password
[18:06] <MorphixNW> if I make a copy of say "xfce.desktop" and call it "custom.desktop" will I then be able to select that as a session to use?
[18:06] <TheSheep> I usually just delete the keyring from ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ and it asks for a new one on next login...
[18:06] <TheSheep> MorphixNW: yes, that's how it should work
[18:06] <MorphixNW> excellent
[18:07] <TheSheep> MorphixNW: btw, you can also do it without gdm
[18:07] <share> TheSheep: there are 2 files inside keyrings folder
[18:07] <TheSheep> share: well, rename them and try relogging
[18:07] <Sysi> (oh great, i need to reset one keyring)
[18:08] <MorphixNW> TheSheep: would that improve performance?
[18:08] <TheSheep> MorphixNW: a little, but then you need to mess with startup scripts (so that something starts instead of gdm)
[18:09] <TheSheep> you can try googling for 'remove gdm from (x)ubuntu' or something
[18:09] <MorphixNW> TheSheep: Like the program I want to use?
[18:09] <TheSheep> no, X
[18:09] <MorphixNW> ok thank you
[18:09] <TheSheep> with that program set as the program to run
[18:15] <arthurjohnson> Dudes, new Laptop day.  Xubuntu 10.04 worked PERFECTLY out of the box.
[18:16] <MorphixNW> awesome stuff :)
[18:16] <arthurjohnson> Dell Latitude D630
[18:17] <charlie-tca> Great!
[18:17] <arthurjohnson> Core2Duo T7250, 500 GB HDD, 2G ram.
[18:18] <arthurjohnson> Its a real hotrod with Xubuntu installed.
[18:18] <MorphixNW> wow bet that runs very well indeed :)
[18:18] <MorphixNW> :)
[18:18] <arthurjohnson> Nine cell battery, frequence scaling working perfectly.  Going to be taking the battery through the paces this weekend.
[18:18] <arthurjohnson> Should provide enough power for me to work from the grotto thou ;)
[18:19] <Sysi> 15"?
[18:19] <arthurjohnson> Everything right out the box worked perfectly, with some restricted drivers installed.  Didn't have to hunt or anything.  Really plug and play.
[18:19] <arthurjohnson> Sysi: Yea, 15" wide.
[18:21] <arthurjohnson> I was scared, my other Dell was a nightmare to install on, D600
[18:21] <arthurjohnson> Suspend doesn't work on that one, really annoying.
[18:21] <Sysi> i'm propably gonna get macbook air or basic macbook
[18:22] <MorphixNW> arthurjohnson: very glad that all went so well for you
[18:22] <arthurjohnson> The D630 after it gets past grub, takes about 12 seconds to desktop.  And about one second to come back from suspend.
[18:22] <Sysi> MBA 11" should work with xubuntu better than TP edge 11"
[18:22] <Sysi> i honestly hate that fact
[18:30] <share> TheSheep: didnt solve the problem
[18:31] <share> it's asking for the password
[18:31] <share> and ofc blank pass doesnt work
[18:33] <TheSheep> share: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281
[18:33] <TheSheep> share: (except that you don't need to compile it)
[18:33] <share> TheSheep: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=a6391c73e30ab444575030f8cd507716&p=3544196&postcount=4
[18:34] <TheSheep> share: yeah, it's the same thing
[18:34] <TheSheep> share: only yours is shorter :)
[18:35] <TheSheep> share: but that wants you to use the same password
[18:35] <TheSheep> not empty
[18:47] <share> :x
[18:47] <share> yeah didnt work
[18:48] <share> gonna try the other solution
[18:55] <share> TheSheep: doesnt work
[18:55] <share> :p
[18:55] <share> because im not using password whe ni  boot
[19:01] <share> TheSheep: solution is to mark Available to all users
[19:01] <share> :P lol'd
[19:11] <share> is there a gui to setup vnc server
[19:11] <share> on xubuntu
[19:11] <share> like vino
[19:23] <freebird> What is the cmd for owning a folder if you can't change permissoins to it?
[19:26] <TheSheep> freebird: if you can't, you can't
[19:26] <TheSheep> freebird: that's the idea behind permissions
[19:27] <freebird> its my external drive and it doesn't let me  make anything a exucutable
[19:28] <charlie-tca> do you own the files?
[19:28] <freebird> it will let me veiw them but not run them
[19:29] <freebird> chown but i don't know how to use this command
[19:29] <TheSheep> man chown
[19:29] <charlie-tca> sudo chown USERNAME FILE
[19:30] <charlie-tca> but if you change owner on a file needed to run the system, it breaks it
[19:30] <freebird> if i own the whole folder or drive i should own everything inside of the folder or drive correct?
[19:31] <charlie-tca> not always. You can use    ls -l     in terminal to see a list of files with the owner
[19:31] <charlie-tca> Those are    small letters,    LS -L
[19:32] <freebird> kk ty
[19:32] <share> vnc server for xubuntu?
[19:32] <share> with gui
[19:32] <charlie-tca> !vnc
[19:33] <charlie-tca> If it works in Ubuntu, it should work in Xubuntu
[19:33] <share> thats not what i asked
[19:33] <charlie-tca> you asked about vnc server?
[19:33] <freebird> !FreeNX
[19:34] <share> charlie-tca: ssh is an extra
[19:34] <share> charlie-tca: is there a vnc serveer like vino
[19:34] <share> for xubuntu
[19:34] <Sysi> vino should work?
[19:34] <charlie-tca> yes, it is called "vino" I think
[19:34] <share> Sysi: it doesnt :x or im doing something wrong
[19:34] <freebird> google vino alteratives
[19:35] <Sysi> hum, it *could* maybe be that gnome spesific
[19:35] <charlie-tca> If it works in Ubuntu, it should work in Xubuntu
[19:35] <share> should
[19:35] <share> "Xubuntu needs a VNC server like vino is to Gnome"
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu makes the setup simple, Xubuntu doesn't set it up, you have to
[19:36] <share> :\
[19:36] <charlie-tca> I would usually look in /usr/share/docs and man vnc for information about how to make it work.
[19:36] <freebird> If it works in Ubuntu it will work in xubuntu but might not be as easy to make it work due to depencies ect..
[19:37] <share> freebird: no
[19:37] <Sysi> there do are lot's of vnc server programs
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Actually, yes
[19:37] <share> it installs vino
[19:38] <share> but doesnt create any shortcut
[19:38] <share> and gui doesnt work
[19:38] <share> http://www.ehow.com/how_6980234_enable-xubuntu-remote-desktop.html
[19:39] <share> executing the command "vino" only gives me a "command not found" error.
[19:40] <Sysi> does alt-tabbing give any options?
[19:40] <share> im gonna install vino-server
[19:52] <freebird> darn it doesn't give me ownership over the wowlauncher.exe
[19:53] <freebird> it won't allow me to run as executable
[19:53] <charlie-tca> Is that a shared drive? ntfs
[19:53] <freebird> yeah
[19:53] <charlie-tca> so, you can't own them
[19:54] <freebird> i own it in ubuntu
[19:54] <charlie-tca> Try copying it to your /home and running it from there
[19:54] <freebird> why wouldn't i be able to in xubuntu
[19:54] <charlie-tca> If they are not owned by you in windows, you can not own them in Xubuntu
[19:55] <freebird> its a seperate partion from ubuntu or windows
[19:55] <charlie-tca> Doesn t matter.
[19:56] <charlie-tca> No matter what you try, it will only let you own them if you own them in windows
[19:56] <charlie-tca> oh, and then there is something about not being able to run them from removable drives, too
[19:57] <charlie-tca> Most of which I do not understand, either
[19:57] <freebird> i think that is what i'm having issue with but ubuntu it worked fine not sure why xubuntu would be different :P
[19:58] <charlie-tca> Different methods to do things
[19:58] <freebird> cuase i own the drive in windows but seeing that its not the  same partion it might be seeing it aas a removable drive
[19:59] <charlie-tca> that could be
[20:00] <freebird> i'll look for a solution cause i can't move it to this partion not enough room
[20:01] <freebird> charlie-tca,  ty for your help bro
[20:01] <charlie-tca> yw, good luck with it
[20:04] <freebird> this is one of those moment we was talking about last night lol want to do something and can't or broken and don't have time to mess with it atm so will have to come back to it later and play wow on my wifes comp dying to see what changes they made in catylysm
[20:04] <charlie-tca> yup
[20:05] <share> charlie-tca:
[20:06] <share> and dudes
[20:06] <share> vino works like a charm
[20:06] <share> i just need to type vino-preferences to configure
[20:06] <charlie-tca> nice
[20:06] <share> ;)
[20:06] <freebird> nice thanks for the update
[20:07] <freebird> bbl guys
[20:14] <share> now
[20:15] <share> how can i make vnc to start on boot
[20:19] <share> i can add vino-preferences on startup applications right
[21:10] <freebird> charlie-tca,  i figured it out all i had to do is install ntfs-cinfig
[21:11] <freebird> config*
[21:12] <charlie-tca>  oops
[21:12] <freebird> it just wanted the internal and external drives mounted
[21:13] <charlie-tca> understandable
[21:13] <freebird> yeah simple solution lol for a big problem :P
[22:16] <share> vino asks to unlock gnome keyring
[22:16] <share> bah
[22:17] <share> the easiest way is to use a blank password
[22:17] <share> but it's unsafe