[00:14] <kristian-aalborg> ibuclaw: I got the super grub rescue cd
[00:15] <thewrath> ?
[00:23] <thewrath> anyone home?
[00:23] <kristian-aalborg> thewrath: no
[00:23] <kristian-aalborg> :P
[00:24]  * thewrath comes to kristian-aalborg and gives them a "Gibbs" head slap
[00:25] <kristian-aalborg> as in Brothers Gibbs, the Bee Gees?
[00:26] <thewrath> no NCIS Special Agent LeeRoy Jeathrow Gibbs
[00:27] <kristian-aalborg> ah okay... the other thing would undoubtedly be painful, though
[02:14] <reaper_> anyone know how to recover a password for a achieve
[02:15] <UndiFineD> reaper_, meet john
[02:16] <reaper_> ?
[02:16] <UndiFineD> john is a cousin of jack
[02:16] <UndiFineD> the ripper
[02:16] <reaper_> right
[02:16] <UndiFineD> which happens to be able to guess passwords
[02:17] <reaper_> ok
[02:17] <UndiFineD> i found it funny with your name reaper_
[02:17] <UndiFineD> but john is real
[02:18] <reaper_> ok
[02:18] <aveilleux> reaper_: You mean like passworded RAR archives?
[02:18] <reaper_> yeah
[02:18] <reaper_> rarcrack doesnt work
[02:18] <aveilleux> reaper_: Why don't you have the password? Most times you find on you generally get the password from the uploaded 9_9
[02:18] <aveilleux> uploader*
[02:18] <aveilleux> one*
[02:19] <reaper_> yeah well not this time
[02:19] <reaper_> have to pay to get a password
[02:19] <aveilleux> From... what
[02:19] <reaper_> a movie
[02:19] <aveilleux> reaper_: Piracy is not condoned on these channels.
[02:20] <reaper_> its not piracy if you own the movie
[02:20] <aveilleux> reaper_: Then make a digital copy yourself.
[02:20] <reaper_> the one i have is all messed up and will not play
[02:21] <aveilleux> reaper_: Have you tried disc recovery solutions like Disc Doctor, etc?
[02:21] <reaper_> no
[02:22] <reaper_> their is no hope for the disk
[02:23] <reaper_> a friend had a copy of it and sent it to me only problem is that we cant remember the password
[02:25] <aveilleux> reaper_: The distribution of media from one person to another is still technically piracy, even though you legally own a copy of it. You're licensed to make backups of /your/ copy, not take copies from other people. It's very tricky, legally.
[02:25] <reaper_> yeah true
[02:26] <head_victim> aveilleux: also in some parts of the world making backups that change the format are not acceptable eitiher (eg backing up a CD to mp3/ogg)
[02:26] <aveilleux> head_victim: True that.... sadly
[02:28] <head_victim> aveilleux: The hard part is I'm sure the laws are all slightly different from place to place making what some people think is ok not ok for others.
[02:28] <head_victim> I'm not even 100% certain the limits in my own country as it's all so confusing.
[02:31] <reaper_> very true
[02:37] <hakimsheriff> am I allowed to use a luanchpad account as an open id on oter websites not realted to Ubuntu>
[02:37] <pleia2> yep
[02:37] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: Yes
[02:38] <hakimsheriff> okay thx
[02:38] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: Though you might have to change the https: with http:
[02:38] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: Some sites can't parse https: properly.
[02:38] <hakimsheriff> thx
[02:39] <hakimsheriff> <re you guys part of the ubuntu beginners team?
[02:39] <hakimsheriff> **are
[02:40] <Dutch70> what would be the purpose of doing that?
[02:40] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: I'm a Padawan, not really a full member
[02:40] <hakimsheriff> wait lets talk un #ubuntu-beginner team
[02:41] <aveilleux> Dutch70: Changing the https: to http:? Some websites that use OpenID authentication can't properly handle https: referrer URLs, so changing it to http: makes it work. Launchpad automatically forwards to the encrypted https: address to log in, though.
[02:42] <Dutch70> sorry, should of been more clear...what is the purpose of using a launchpad acct as an open id on other websites? Not exactly sure what an open id is.
[02:43] <hakimsheriff> It lets you login to the website without having to create a account on that website
[02:43] <aveilleux> Dutch70: OpenID is a system that enables user to use a single account to login to many websites.
[02:43] <hakimsheriff> Like "connect with facebooK" thing
[02:43] <aveilleux> Dutch70: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID
[02:43] <Dutch70> oh...lol, sweet
[02:44] <Dutch70> Thank you
[02:44] <Dutch70> nice peice of info
[02:45] <hakimsheriff> is it better to dual-boot or use a virtual machine to play games that can only be played on windows and don't work with wine?
[02:45] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: Dual-boot. Virtualization MURDERS the video performance.
[02:46] <Dutch70> Does anyone have any idea why I would be able to run Ubuntu 10.10 from a live usb on an older pc, but Lubuntu seems to get stuck on the load page with the 4 dots...still flashing?
[02:46] <hakimsheriff> thx a lot
[02:47] <head_victim> Dutch70: I had a problem with that screen where it wouldn't find the correct drive. When it's sitting on that screen press an arrow keey and it should drop you to cli and you can see the errors coming through. If you can then google what seems to be coming through that should help;
[02:50] <Dutch70> Hey head _victim...I was wondering if you'd be on here tonight...I'll give that a try
[02:51] <head_victim> Depends on when tonight is for you, it's just about 1pm here
[02:51] <Dutch70> lol
[02:51] <Dutch70> it's 9:51 here...Fri night of course
[02:52] <head_victim> And I'm just about to head off for the afternoon but should be home tonight. Just not sure how much I'll be at the pc.
[02:52] <Dutch70> So  far I just have a flashing "=" sign in the upper left hand corner
[02:53] <Dutch70> without the quotations that  is
[02:54] <head_victim> Yep, depends on how old the PC is as to how long it takes.
[02:55] <Dutch70> Well...in the mean time, the thread you gave me "yesterday" lol...worked great!!! And I'm lovin my pc once again!!!
[02:56] <head_victim> Hah good to hear
[02:57] <head_victim> See my trick is that I don't know tonnes of stuff but I have spent so much time googling problems I've had that I've learnt how to find stuff pretty well :)
[02:57] <nit-wit> head_victim, don't give away the secrets. ;)
[02:58] <head_victim> nit-wit: hahaha sorry I'll keep it ot myself next time ;)
[02:58] <head_victim> But yeah, I don't work in IT, I don't know how to code or program, but I do know how to drive google :)
[02:59] <nit-wit> head_victim, I use google to find links at the Ubuntu forums where I actually help others or so they think anyway
[03:00] <Dutch70> lol...I'm a regular at the Ubuntu Forums & never found that thread.
[03:01] <nit-wit> Dutch70, if your loving your pc make sure you wipe it clean for other users. ;)
[03:02] <Dutch70> lmaoooo
[03:03] <Dutch70> nicee...touche'
[03:05] <aveilleux> nit-wit: awwwwwwwwwwww horrible pun
[03:07] <Dutch70> not so much...here
[03:07] <Dutch70> my g'f thought it was cute
[03:07] <nit-wit> sorry I couldn't resist
[03:08] <head_victim> Dutch70: well I'm sorry I ihave to head out but what I'd suggest is when that screen hangs just fress a few keys, from memory the arrow keys worked) until you f ind one that drops you to cli so you can see what problems it's havving. Google them and it should help. If you're still not having any luck someone in here the main lubuntu channel, their mailing list or the forums should be able to help out.
[03:09] <Dutch70> ok...do I need to reboot if it doesn't go anywhere or do you know of a shortcut?
[03:09] <head_victim> If it doesn't hit that screen I'd just reboot
[03:10] <head_victim> Bearing in mind the older the PC is the longer it will take to get there
[03:10] <Dutch70> alright thanks
[03:11] <head_victim> No worries sorry I can't stay but need to work on my resume and I need to head over to my folks as my dad does lots of hiring of staff so he helps me write it.
[03:14] <Dutch70> good luck
[03:31] <qu1nn1> newb tried the ubuntu live on a HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop ...impressed
[03:32] <qu1nn1> wifi, sdcard, got the network share, network printer, all with no problem.  Unplugged the AC to run on battery and POW! shut down immediately
[03:33] <qu1nn1> looked at the settings for power management and nothing seemed out of the ordinary.... bug?
[03:33] <pleia2> yikes, that shouldn't happen!
[03:33] <pleia2> sounds like a bug :(
[03:36] <qu1nn1> I am beta testing OS's as I am sick of xp.
[05:20] <holstein> anyone awake?
[05:21] <holstein> i made a GPG key a year ago at least
[05:21] <holstein> i think im going to have to do it again :/
[05:21] <holstein> im trying to learn how to upload to a PPA
[05:29] <bioterror> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[05:29] <bioterror> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading
[05:31] <holstein> thanks
[05:31] <holstein> what if im running debuild?
[05:32] <holstein> and one of the messages at the end is saying "gpg: no secret key available"
[05:32] <holstein> is that for me?
[05:32] <holstein> debsign: gpg error occurred!  Aborting....
[05:33]  * holstein found a forum post...
[05:48] <holstein> Not enough random bytes available.  Please do some other work to give
[05:48] <holstein> the OS a chance to collect more entropy! (Need 277 more bytes)
[05:48] <holstein> what qualifies as "work"
[05:48] <holstein> ?
[05:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> holstein, type something
[05:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> when you see Need 277 more bytes)
[05:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> random stuff
[05:51] <holstein> hmmm
[05:51] <holstein> Need 282 more bytes
[05:51] <holstein> it got worse ;)
[05:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> just type. it doesnt matter
[05:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> brb in few minutes
[05:52] <holstein> thanks
[07:44] <PCChris> If I'm setting up an openVPN connection in NetworkManager (from nm-applet), what is the best way for nm to access the certs and keys that are in a protected directory?  Should I just copy these or change the permissions on the files?  As in, should I do either one of the latter two options or something else entirely?
[07:45] <PCChris> (I know not the *right* place to ask necessarily, but this channel seems more active than the official NetworkManager channel, which I posted to as well)
[07:53] <hobgoblin> hi PCChris - you might well have to hang about for an answer - in the meantime have you looked on the forum or in the wiki's?
[07:54] <PCChris> I actually have not tried searching those yet....have tried the Google with no success, not quite sure what I should search for
[07:55] <PCChris> hobgoblin, ^^
[07:56] <hobgoblin> me neither ;)
[07:56] <hobgoblin> http://crunchbang.org/ubuntu-search-engine/
[07:57] <hobgoblin> start with vpn I guess - it'll get you to a wiki to start with
[07:58] <PCChris> hobgoblin, k thanks
[07:59] <hobgoblin> welcome - sorry I can;t be of more help - but I didn't want you to think we were ignoring you
[08:03] <PCChris> hobgoblin, no problem, might just have to try #nm some more times and see if I ever get a response
[08:06] <PCChris> hobgoblin, mostly concerned about people hijacking my private client key...though I just realized if they break into my Ubuntu box somehow then unless I change from the default "user you setup initially is a sudoer" behavior they can probably get to the file no matter what anyway
[08:09] <sogepp> yo guys
[08:10] <hobgoblin> PCChris: a thought occurs to me - have a look at this guy's forum threads http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 and also his blog - there is a vpm over ssh which might point you in the rigth direction http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/VPN-Over-SSH
[08:10] <hobgoblin> PCChris: but I hasten to add that I wouldn't know for sure ;)
[08:11] <PCChris> hobgoblin, ok thanks again..will look into those
[08:11] <hobgoblin> hi sogepp
[08:11] <sogepp> hi hobgoblin :)
[08:47] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, helo hob
[08:47] <nit-wit> hello
[08:48] <jerk> my problem is like this: there are three audio I/O ports in my pc. only the middle one works as an audio output-- but i want at least two ports to work as audio outputs, one for the speakers and the other for the headphone. using ubuntu 10.04. can you help plz?
[08:54] <reaper_> anyone up in here
[08:57] <nit-wit> reaper_, yeah
[08:58] <nit-wit> reaper_, common man spit it out.;)
[08:58] <reaper_> need to fix drivers to play a mmo
[08:58] <nit-wit> come on man
[08:59] <reaper_> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:59] <nit-wit> reaper_, mmo?
[08:59] <reaper_> yeah regnum Online
[09:00] <nit-wit> reaper_, driver fro the graphics
[09:00] <reaper_> cdyeah
[09:01] <nit-wit> reaper_, run this in the terminal and pastebin it   lspci | grep VGA
[09:02] <nit-wit> reaper_, or is that what the info is
[09:04] <reaper_> http://pastebin.com/zqX6Qydm
[09:06] <nit-wit> reaper_, I usualy add this ppa for intel drivers, it might get you closer thats the most I know. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[09:07] <reaper_> ok thanks
[09:07] <nit-wit> reaper_, there aemore unstable ppa as well
[09:07] <reaper_> ok
[09:16] <jose> what version of ubuntu should I install on a laptop pentium III 1.13 ghz, 512MB ram, 30 GB HD
[09:17] <bioterror> Lubuntu 10.10
[09:18] <jose> thanks
[09:19] <andrew_46> bioterror: Standard Ubuntu will not run on this?
[09:19] <bioterror> sure it will run, but lubuntu will be _fast_
[09:20] <bioterror> but I would suggest more from for the gnome
[09:21] <bioterror> more ram
[09:23] <bioterror> it's recommended to have 1GB of RAM for the vanilla ubuntu
[09:25] <andrew_46> bioterror: I will admit I have not used Lubuntu, sounds like an interesting project
[09:26] <bioterror> andrew_46, I suggest to try it out ;)
[09:26] <andrew_46> bioterror: Just checking out the website now :)
[09:31] <duanedesign> morning all
[09:31] <andrew_46> duanedesign: hello :)
[09:32] <duanedesign> yes Lubuntu is nice.
[09:33] <duanedesign> hello andrew_46
[09:34] <andrew_46> I will admit to being a pretty solid xfce user, but there is always time for something different :)
[09:43] <duanedesign> i am not sure how different XFCE is from LXDE, I imagine they are fairly similar experience. But i have not used XFCE so i am assuming :)
[09:43] <bioterror> xfce was fast on version 3 ;)
[09:44] <andrew_46> I used Xubuntu for a long time a while back, although I believe it is not exactly thriving as focus is on gnomr
[09:44] <andrew_46> gnoe
[09:44] <andrew_46> ahhhhhhhh!!!
[09:44] <andrew_46> gnome
[09:46]  * andrew_46 will learn to type one day
[09:47] <bioterror> but I'm off for the music concert, laters
[09:47] <andrew_46> bioterror: see you :)
[10:27] <doez> Hi
[10:27] <doez> Anyone play world of warcraft here?
[10:30] <pedro3005> I used to
[10:31] <doez> Did you have any problems with the framerate?
[10:31] <pedro3005> I used to run it with wine at ~ 60 fps
[10:32] <doez> sick
[10:32] <doez> How much tweaking did you have to do?
[10:36] <pedro3005> practically none
[10:36] <pedro3005> I ran it with a geforce 8800
[10:38] <doez> Oh, I'm with AMD's 6870 and cant seem to get it to run even
[10:38] <doez> Before i installed the drirvers manually i could at least run it with 1 or 2 fps
[10:39] <doez> I thought the problem was that i ran 64 bit linux, but when i googld it showd up that it was no problem
[10:40] <pedro3005> and the same card worked perfectly on windows?
[10:40] <doez> Oh yes.
[10:43] <doez> Says here I have to run it in windowed mode, and add some wow binary stuff to wine.
[10:43] <doez> Did you do that?
[10:43] <pedro3005> I'd run it in fullscreen o_O
[10:44] <pedro3005> but I remember I did a little tweaking
[10:44] <pedro3005> change a wow setting
[10:44] <pedro3005> oh yeah
[10:44] <doez> And just copying over the windows install to the wine folder works, yes?
[10:44] <doez> The OpenGL, yeah
[10:44] <doez> I did that.
[10:44] <pedro3005> yeah
[10:44] <doez> Both the wtf config and the regedit one
[10:46] <doez> I tried adding the .exe file to winecfg, no luck
[10:46] <doez> Got any ideas?
[10:50] <doez> glxinfo | grep rendering, gives me nothing in the terminal
[10:54] <pedro3005> #winehq maybe
[10:55] <doez> already there asking :)
[14:27] <nirazio> hi can anyone say me the difference between client and server environment???
[14:29] <bioterror> what
[14:30] <bioterror> you mean Ubuntu Desktop Edition and Ubuntu Server Edition?
[14:30] <nirazio> yes
[14:34] <hobgoblin> nirazio: the server edition is optimised (afaik) for use as a server - desktop more for normal use - server has no gui
[14:35] <nirazio> oke :)
[14:35] <hobgoblin> there are other differences - best thing to do would be look at ubuntu.com and google
[14:35] <bioterror> server is minimal installation optimized to be a server
[14:35] <bioterror> but you can say sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:35] <bioterror> or what ever desktop
[14:36] <hobgoblin> yes
[14:36] <hobgoblin> sorry - thought that was nirazio asking lol
[14:53] <doez> I cant seem to run world of warcraft with wine, can anyone help me?
[14:54] <nirazio> Can anyone help me in setting up vsftpd??
[14:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> doez, you should try #winehq channel
[14:55] <doez> I've been there already
[14:55] <IAmNotThatGuy> nirazio, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[14:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> doez, we mostly prefer to not to use wine. so most of us dont have knowledge about it.
[14:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> pedro3005, still here
[14:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> ?
[14:56] <doez> Is there an alternative?
[14:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> no wine = no .exe
[14:58] <doez> Kay.
[14:58] <vipul> IAmNotThatGuy,  is there any new version for wine?
[14:58] <doez> 1.2.2 is the stable one
[14:59] <doez> 1.3.9 is the develop one
[14:59] <nirazio> IAmNotThatGuy, when i restart it says Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service vsftpd restart
[14:59] <vipul> humm.... wine supoort .exe file under linux right
[14:59] <doez> It does, to some extent
[15:00] <vipul> doez,  what do you mean by some extent? can you explain it
[15:00] <doez> Taken from my own experience I cant get anything to run under wine.
[15:00] <doez> Except spotify.
[15:00] <doez> It's tricky, basically.
[15:00] <vipul> ok
[15:01] <doez> From what I've heard, it is possible with a lot of tweaking.
[15:01] <doez> And searching.
[15:01] <doez> And testing.
[15:01] <doez> Trial and error I guess.
[15:01] <vipul> ok i  have some question related to account password changing in ubuntu
[15:02] <duanedesign> yeah some apps do better under wine then others
[15:03] <vipul> well just now 20 mins before i have login to my root user with sudo -s and then password then i try to change my account password with this command <passwd> <--- and it shows me a result you password hav been successfully updated
[15:04] <vipul> but when i try to login with new password in root user i am unable to log in it ? why
[15:04] <vipul> but when i used this command sudo passwd  <---- and changes my password
[15:04] <vipul> it works
[15:05] <vipul> i want's to know the exact diffrence between this 2 comands
[15:08] <duanedesign> passwd would change the password for your user account. sudo passwd would change the password for the root account?
[15:09] <duanedesign> doez: does any of this help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[15:09] <doez> It does not I'm afraid.
[15:09] <doez> Really tho I think it's driver related.
[15:09] <duanedesign> doez: i figured you had probably seen that
[15:10] <doez> Thanks tho.
[15:10] <doez> Do you know how to install video drivers?
[15:10] <doez> Or how to check if I even have them installed
[15:14] <JoeMaverickSett> doez: this might help, have a look; http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20549 (about WoW)
[15:16] <doez> Thank you. Though I don't see anything related to my problem.
[15:18] <duanedesign> doez: what do you get from this command:  lspci -nn | grep VGA
[15:18] <doez> "06:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress) [1002:6898]
[15:18] <doez> "
[15:20] <doez> Any good?
[15:21] <duanedesign> i am looking to see which driver that is
[15:22] <doez> In synaptic or their website?
[15:27] <duanedesign> doez: ok
[15:28] <duanedesign> doez: yeah there is a pdf that lists the card supported by the flgrx driver. http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_104_linux.pdf
[15:28] <duanedesign> if its not supported by it then you use the open source driver
[15:28] <duanedesign> looks like your card is
[15:29] <duanedesign> doez: do any drivers show up under System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[15:29] <doez> Yes I found a driver for my card on their website
[15:30] <doez> Hold on.
[15:30] <doez> Says here I need to activate the driver.
[15:30] <doez> Should I?
[15:30] <doez> It's the FGLRX one.
[15:30] <duanedesign> yes. that is the flgrx driver. Better 3d support
[15:32] <doez> Alright, I'll reboot and see if it did the trick.
[15:32] <doez> Cookie to you for now.
[15:32] <doez> Thanks.
[15:32] <duanedesign> cool
[15:33] <JoeMaverickSett> my ATI seems to work better with the open source driver. :)
[15:48] <doez> duanedesign: Had to format my computer after applying those video drivers. It wouldn't let me start it.
[15:49] <doez> Guess I'll try again.
[15:53]  * holstein waves
[15:53] <holstein> how do i file a bug against lucid-backports?
[15:54] <holstein> im trying to add 'lucid-backports' to the 'in what package did you find this bug' field
[15:54] <holstein> and that doesnt seem right...
[15:56] <hobgoblin> backports is a repo - I'd file it against the package you have the bug in
[15:56] <holstein> i'll try that
[16:00] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rakarrack/+bug/691937
[16:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 691937 in rakarrack (Ubuntu) "bug report for backporting (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,In progress]
[16:00] <holstein> i think thats clear
[16:00] <holstein> i'll drop it in ubuntu-bugs too
[16:00] <holstein> see if im doing it properly
[16:20] <slashedice> hi all
[16:21] <slashedice> anyone mind helping me with a install problem of 10.10?
[16:21] <holstein> slashedice: sure
[16:21] <holstein> whats up?
[16:22] <slashedice> okay, i was able to get ubuntu installed on my laptop no probs, and thats how im actually talking to you right now, but my desktop is being a pain
[16:23] <slashedice> every time I go to install on my desktop, it will show the 4 blinking in succession lights, and then suddenly they will all go solid and will never load
[16:24] <holstein> slashedice: how did the live CD run?
[16:24] <slashedice> i think thats the one i downloaded
[16:24] <holstein> try getting to the desktop from the LIVE setup
[16:24] <slashedice> thats the one where it will basically load off the cd and give you a basic desktop correct?
[16:25] <holstein> slashedice: its the usual download
[16:25] <holstein> if you didnt search around for a different disc
[16:25] <holstein> thats more than likely the one you have
[16:25] <holstein> you'll see 2 options at some point
[16:25] <slashedice> yeah thats how my laptop started, and that disk worked fine, just not so good on my desktop
[16:25] <holstein> install or run live without changes
[16:25] <slashedice> yeah i cant get there
[16:25] <holstein> AH
[16:25] <holstein> so you choose 'run live'
[16:25] <holstein> and no dice?
[16:26] <slashedice> well when my comp boots, it doesnt give me that option
[16:26] <slashedice> it just automatically starts doing its thing
[16:26] <holstein> hmmm
[16:26] <holstein> this will be when the CD boots
[16:26] <holstein> slashedice: you remember when you did the lappy install
[16:27] <holstein> there was something graphic that poped up
[16:27] <holstein> and said install or run live
[16:27] <holstein> thats what you need to get too
[16:27] <slashedice> yeah it hangs up at the boot ubuntu screen
[16:27] <holstein> slashedice: im not sure if your acutally booting the CD or not
[16:27] <holstein> slashedice: AH
[16:28] <hobgoblin> slashedice: how much ram - what graphics card on the desktop
[16:28] <holstein> lets assume that its the graphics card for a moment then
[16:28] <slashedice> its a nvidia 250 gt and i have 8 gigs of ram
[16:29] <holstein> hobgoblin: what has happened with 'safe graphics mode' ?
[16:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> slashedice, you installed 32 bit OS?
[16:29] <holstein> i havent acutally used the 10.10 live CD
[16:29] <slashedice> no i grabbed 64 bit
[16:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> you have a live CD/ USB now?
[16:30] <hobgoblin> when you first get the cd to boot hit any key and you should then see the different options
[16:30] <slashedice> yeah,  i had no probs installing on my laptop with it
[16:30] <hobgoblin> might need nomodeset or something
[16:30] <slashedice> yeah i can get there
[16:31] <slashedice> but then it locks up at the ubuntu boot screen
[16:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> hobgoblin, I believe its nomodeset issue
[16:31] <hobgoblin> then explain to slashedice how to use it :)
[16:31] <slashedice> ok, let me fire the desktop up
[16:31] <slashedice> one sec
[16:32] <slashedice> ok it booted and i hit f6, and theres a screen that says try ubuntu without installing, install ubuntu, check disc for defects, etc
[16:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> hobgoblin, gpated is the only way I know =]
[16:33] <slashedice> thats the screen i should be at, correct?
[16:33] <hobgoblin> add it to the kernel option - not sure which it is off hand
[16:34] <slashedice> theres a bunch of f key commands, like f6 other options and nomodeset is there
[16:34] <slashedice> select that one?
[16:35] <hobgoblin> can but try
[16:36] <slashedice> ok im gonna give it a go
[16:36] <hobgoblin> it might also be useful to remove quiet and splash then you might at least see what it hangs on
[16:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604305
[16:37] <slashedice> ok its booting and boot screen is not pretty anymore lol
[16:38] <slashedice> its still blinking through the 4 dots though
[16:39] <slashedice> ok it says unreliable cpu thermal sensor; monitoring disabled
[16:40] <slashedice> ok it loaded this time
[16:40] <slashedice> im sitting at the desktop
[16:41] <slashedice> thanks for all the help
[16:41] <hobgoblin> cool
[16:42] <hobgoblin> once you have installed - don't reboot straight away - you can add nomodeset to the grub defaults - you might just end up with a non booting desktop
[16:45] <slashedice> ok, is that something to watch out for with all nvidia cards?
[16:45] <hobgoblin> no - mine works fine without - but it's a bit older
[16:47] <slashedice> ok, is that thermal sensor stuff something to be worried about?
[16:58] <hobgoblin> not any idea :)
[17:00] <holstein> slashedice: i did that on my server box
[17:00] <holstein> about a year ago
[17:00] <holstein> and it hasnt caught fire yet ;)
[17:01] <holstein> the bios will still be 'doing its thing'
[17:01] <holstein> if the CPU gets hot or something
[18:48] <sogepp> nit-wit
[18:49] <Herr_Gunter> hello
[18:50] <Herr_Gunter> i need some help
[18:53] <sogepp> guys, how many method we can use to return grub2 on ubuntu ??
[18:53] <UndiFineD> !ask
[18:53] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[19:12] <reaper_> anyone know of a program for ubuntu that will let you record video as you watch it
[19:18] <holstein> reaper_: vlc transcodes
[19:18] <holstein> what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:19] <reaper_> like when I watch a vid I may wait to record it
[19:19] <holstein> you probably already have the file if your watching it
[19:20] <reaper_> not live from the Internet
[19:20] <holstein> as a creator of media, i would say request a copy from the content creator
[19:20] <reaper_> like youtube
[19:21] <holstein> yeah, email and ask for a copy
[19:21] <holstein> the author may not want you to copy it
[19:22] <reaper_> true but if that was the case they probably shouldnt have put it on the Internet
[19:22] <holstein> that doesnt make it 'right'
[19:22] <reaper_> true
[19:43] <reaper_> has anyone played Regnum Online?
[19:45] <reaper_> having trouble running Regnum Online says Unsupported video card can anyone help with this/
[19:49] <holstein> reaper_: what video card do you have?
[19:50] <holstein> more importantly, what driver are you using
[19:50] <holstein> probably have to use a proprietary driver
[19:51] <reaper_> mobile chipset
[19:51] <sogepp> have you ever compile driver for intel video card???
[19:52] <reaper_> no I try and it did work
[19:53] <sogepp> i can't play game properly with ubuntu, i wonder that my graphic card too low for ubuntu
[19:55] <reaper_> my laptop isnt a year old yeah so I know thats not my problem I can play Doom 3 with no problem
[19:59] <holstein> reaper_: what graphics card do you have?
[19:59] <holstein> intel is usually pretty well supported driver wise
[19:59] <holstein> but not great performance wise
[20:00] <holstein> if its nvidia, i think you'll need the proprietary driver to 'have any fun' ;)
[20:00] <sogepp> mine too, but it can't play even alien arena, seeesh,
[20:00] <holstein> although, i use the open one on my studio box
[20:00] <holstein> with nvidia
[20:00] <reaper_> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[20:01] <holstein> yeah, so thats prolly just what you get then
[20:01] <holstein> with that hardware
[20:02] <reaper_> yeah in win7 i think it comes up as using ATI but not 100% on that
[20:04] <reaper_> http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=56251
[20:09] <Yorvyk> reaper_, what laptop do you have, some have two video devices in them
[20:09] <reaper_> sony vaio
[20:11] <Yorvyk> reaper_, which model
[20:11] <reaper_> VGN-NW240F
[20:16] <Yorvyk> reaper_, It is just the Intel video and not one of the two video ones
[20:17] <reaper_> ?
[20:18] <Yorvyk> reaper_, with you saying win7 may be using ATI I thought it may have two video cards in
[20:18] <reaper_> o ok
[20:19] <reaper_> got it
[20:19] <reaper_> to work
[20:19] <Yorvyk> Some do have a mobile graphics chip to save power and a 3d chip for when you want to play games or something but it drains the batteries very quickly
[20:20] <reaper_> yeah i think so
[20:21] <reaper_> ok I got pass the video card error not it say cant open file 'game.cfg' (error 2 No such file or directory)
[20:24] <Yorvyk> which is more fun, playing the game or getting it to run :)
[20:25] <reaper_> get it to run
[20:32] <Yorvyk> reaper_, do you have game.cfg in he appropriate folder
[20:33] <reaper_> its ok got it to run
[20:34] <Yorvyk> Persistence pays,  have fun :)
[20:36] <reaper_> yes it does, I will and thanks
[22:14] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[22:14] <kristian-aalborg> anyone got experiences with symlinking /var /bin /swap etc?
[22:16] <kristian-aalborg> I have sort of limited space, thus I'm thinking about doing this
[22:18] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: That seems like it would royally screw up the system.
[22:18] <kristian-aalborg> aveilleux: why?
[22:18] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Because 1. you need those files, and 2. symlink to what?
[22:19] <kristian-aalborg> I have a second hdd that I can't boot from - I'd copy things there, then symlink to them
[22:19] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Why bother symlinking? Just mount them as /whatever.
[22:22]  * kristian-aalborg is dumb
[22:22] <kristian-aalborg> aveilleux: that seems to be the more clever solotion, yes
[22:22] <kristian-aalborg> I'll do it after install
[22:23] <kristian-aalborg> having  a system spread out over several hdd's is not optimal, of course... but I kind of hope it will make it faster since the second hdd is CompactFlash
[22:24] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Actually, spreading the system out like that can increase system read/write times.
[22:24] <kristian-aalborg> hmm
[22:25] <asterismo> hi people
[22:25] <kristian-aalborg> aveilleux: here's the scenario, any input you may have is appreciated
[22:25] <asterismo> i was wondering if anybody knows of some irc channel about web applet development
[22:25] <kristian-aalborg> I have one 4g hdd and one 4g compactflash
[22:25] <asterismo> it's for a friend of mine
[22:26] <kristian-aalborg> on these, I would like a minimal ubuntu + slitaz + whatever... this machine is there to play with, not be practical
[22:26] <kristian-aalborg> so, I split the hdd in two and put slitaz on it and I'm in the process of putting ubuntu on the second half
[22:27] <kristian-aalborg> I'd like to take advantage on the extra 4g for more than media files, of course
[22:30]  * asterismo is wondering about web applet development channel on the IRC
[22:30] <kristian-aalborg> asterismo: #web here on freenode
[22:31] <asterismo> thanks kristian-aalborg
[22:31] <kristian-aalborg> yw
[22:32] <kristian-aalborg> aveilleux: how'd you go about something like that?
[22:33] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Set up the partitions normally, then use a LiveCD to copy the data. Once you're done with that, edit /etc/fstab to reflect the new mounts.
[22:33] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: I'm a little busy so I can't really get into it right now, hopefully someone else can walk you through it
[22:33] <asterismo> kristian-aalborg > do you know any other web development channel? thanks in advance
[22:34] <kristian-aalborg> thanks aveilleux - I'll look into it
[22:34] <asterismo> maybe a java one
[22:34] <kristian-aalborg> asterismo: nope, sorry - have you tried simply /JOIN #java ?
[22:35] <asterismo> kristian-aalborg > I'll try that thanks
[22:36] <kristian-aalborg> not sure anything's there - if no luck, try googling it
[22:45] <sogepp> guys, how to register my id on freenode???
[22:51] <aveilleux> sogepp:  /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[22:51] <sogepp> thx
[23:19] <yofel> kristian-aalborg: just as a side note, you could try to make LVM treat both the hdd and compact flash as one virtual drive, I never tried that with a CF though
[23:19] <kristian-aalborg> hi yofel
[23:20] <kristian-aalborg> I'm 90% through installation, should this have been done during partition perhaps?
[23:20] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Yes
[23:20] <yofel> yes, actually before that
[23:20] <kristian-aalborg> that makes it easy, then ;)
[23:21] <kristian-aalborg> the thing aveilleux suggested seems rather straightforward, though
[23:21] <yofel> yep, and I would recommend that too if you use regular partitions
[23:23] <ibuclaw> btrfs allows you to create a filesystem that spans multiple devices
[23:24] <ibuclaw> ie: mkfs-btrfs /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[23:24] <kristian-aalborg> hi ibuclaw
[23:24] <ibuclaw> though it's still in development.
[23:24] <kristian-aalborg> hurm
[23:24] <ibuclaw> and commit speed is no way near as nice as ext4
[23:25] <kristian-aalborg> I don't really want my /bin to be "in development" ;)
[23:25] <ibuclaw> kristian-aalborg, when I'm ill, I don't really want to go to "a practice" ;)
[23:26] <ibuclaw> at the end of the day, you either testing or being tested. =)