[19:04] <gtriderxc> anyone here??
[19:06]  * askhl_ hides so as not to be expected to answer any questions
[19:10] <andrejz> always :)
[19:10] <gtriderxc> :)
[19:10] <gtriderxc> so...
[19:10] <andrejz> just ask
[19:11] <gtriderxc> perhaps You know if CHECKBOX is a part of Ubuntu or GNOME??
[19:11] <gtriderxc> cause I was told to translate Ubuntu parts
[19:11] <andrejz> i am about 99% sure it's not gnome
[19:12] <andrejz> might be from somewhere else, though
[19:13] <gtriderxc> I'm not sure what to do now
[19:13] <gtriderxc> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+lang/pl
[19:13] <andrejz> I believe this is the upstream - https://translations.launchpad.net/checkbox
[19:14] <andrejz> wow, you are doing really well
[19:14] <gtriderxc> :)
[19:14] <andrejz> it's not a part of gnoem
[19:14] <andrejz> gnome
[19:14] <gtriderxc> in which language are You translating??
[19:14] <andrejz> it's being developed in launchpad
[19:14] <andrejz> slovenian, kind of similar to polish :)
[19:15] <gtriderxc> oh yeah:)
[19:15] <andrejz> so if you do it in natty part, it will be translated in ubuntu and if you do it in the link i specified above other distributions (also ubuntu) should be able to use it
[19:16] <gtriderxc> oh... thanks. i didn't knew that
[19:17] <gtriderxc> have You git a lot of translators there in Slovenia??
[19:17] <andrejz> that's why we try to do stuff in upstream if possible and then add/fix in launchpad
[19:17] <andrejz> not really that manny but a few are really into it and make up for the rest
[19:18] <andrejz> we could always have more and better i suppose, but i am quite pleased with the way things are now
[19:18] <andrejz> the only problem is that other teams are weaker (like KDE or Debian translation team for example)
[19:20] <gtriderxc> oh:/ my only problem in Poland is
[19:20] <andrejz> @gtriderxc: you can see a list of gnome packages for 10.04 (hasn't been updted for 10.10)  here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/GNOME/GnomeLucidModules
[19:21] <gtriderxc> wow tahnk You
[19:22] <andrejz> it's just slightly outdated as i said, but it's a very good starting point
[19:22] <gtriderxc> my biggest problem here in Poland is that we have one man who does a lot of bad translations and he has Reviewer rights though he doesn't know the basic rules about translations
[19:23] <andrejz> well talk to the leader of the translation team
[19:23] <gtriderxc> however the checkbox is also pretty important
[19:23] <gtriderxc> but has a lot of bugs
[19:24] <andrejz> i think big bugs are even worse than no trasnlation, minor ones are acceptable
[20:27] <askhl_> The problem with bad translations are that they are a lot more difficult to find than no translations
[20:27] <askhl_> s/are/is/
[20:27] <andrejz> true
[20:27] <askhl_> In our team we use the suggestion functionality in Launchpad so we always have a proofreader
[20:29] <andrejz> we are also trying to use that but without knowing where the strings appear in the program it's difficult
[20:43] <gtriderxc> yes if you can work as a team its quite easy
[20:43] <gtriderxc> there is one more thing
[20:44] <andrejz> it's not only obvious mistakes
[20:44] <andrejz> also small typos
[20:44] <gtriderxc> there are old translators here who make terrible translations and I'm a pretty new one
[20:44] <gtriderxc> they may not want to talk to me:)
[20:44] <andrejz> young power is the best
[20:44] <andrejz> :)
[20:45] <andrejz> lot's of energy and high motivation. that's what all teams need
[20:45] <gtriderxc> we've got some rules for translators
[20:45] <andrejz> that's essential
[20:45] <gtriderxc> and not all of us know they
[20:46] <andrejz> I think it's important to work on that
[20:46] <gtriderxc> I'll try
[20:46] <andrejz> just stay positive ;)
[20:46] <andrejz> i need to go
[20:46] <andrejz> good night
[20:46] <gtriderxc> cu
[20:47] <andrejz> bye