[00:10] <JontheEchidna> that patch has already been dropped in natty
[00:14] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I did apt-get source and it was there.
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: the patch is ineffectual since we removed the desktop key to launch it with root
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> but we still need it for userconfig
[00:15] <ScottK> Ah.
[00:16] <ScottK> So userconfig needs porting to use policykit?
[00:16] <ScottK> Nevermind then.
[00:16] <JontheEchidna> yeah, but I don't know if you can do polkit with pykde
[00:16] <JontheEchidna> not without writing a c++ helper app to do the actual root bits anyways
[00:17] <ScottK> OK.  I'm out on that one then.
[02:48] <rbelem> hey ScottK 
[02:49] <rbelem> ScottK, do you know any script that creates automatically debian/copyright? I think I already asked this question before to you :-)
[02:51] <rbelem> ScottK, I started write this http://paste.ubuntu.com/545447/
[03:18] <valorie> rbelem: congratulations on the birth of your son
[03:19] <valorie> how are you all getting along now?
[03:19] <valorie> so cute!
[03:19] <rbelem> thx valorie :-D
[03:19]  * rbelem hugs valorie 
[03:20] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}} to your family and you
[03:20] <valorie> do you get any sleep these days?
[03:20] <rbelem> he is fine, but he is starting to change day by night. I did not sleep last night
[03:20] <valorie> that is the hardest with newborns.... the lack of sleep
[03:21] <rbelem> the other nights he slept well
[03:21] <valorie> when they sleep, you should too!
[03:21] <valorie> he, i mean
[03:21] <valorie> and your wife
[03:21] <rbelem> :-)
[03:21] <rbelem> i need start to do that
[03:22] <valorie> if you lack sleep, you can get sick, and you don't want that
[03:22] <valorie> plus you'll be amazed at how fast he grows up
[03:22] <rbelem> hum... i did not thought about that
[03:22] <valorie> my first little baby is now 35, and it could have been.... maybe a year or two ago
[03:23] <valorie> I remembr like it was yesterday
[03:23] <rbelem> :-)
[03:23] <valorie> so sleep enough, and treasure every minute!
[03:23] <valorie> I'm so happy for you
[03:24] <rbelem> thank you very much valorie :-D
[03:25] <rbelem> valorie, he just woke up
[03:25] <valorie> :-)
[03:25] <rbelem> valorie, my wife is taking care of him
[03:25] <valorie> it's nice to be a team
[03:26] <valorie> now I'm very happy to see how much my son loves his son too
[03:26] <valorie> it carries on
[03:27] <rbelem> valorie, my task is to clean him and my wife task is to feed him :-)
[03:28] <valorie> as long as you both love and enjoy him, it will be almost all good
[03:28] <valorie> i loved raising my kids
[03:29] <rbelem> :-)
[05:18] <fms6468> Hello
[05:21] <fms6468> Is there a way to have Kubuntu load a fullscreen browser window upon startup?
[05:22] <valorie> hmmm
[05:22] <valorie> I think if you leave a browser open when you shut down, it will start up exactly as you left it
[05:23] <valorie> hmmm, there used to be a place to put auto-start stuff in the Kmenu
[05:23] <valorie> don't see it there any more
[05:23] <fms6468> That's helpful, but what about as a default?
[05:23] <valorie> let me look in systemsettings
[05:24] <valorie> i'm sure there is a file which can be edited, but ....
[05:24] <valorie> not sure what it's called
[05:24] <fms6468> I'm open to editing files... 
[05:25] <valorie> system settings > system administration > startup and shutdown
[05:26] <valorie> in there you find the gui way to get to that file
[05:26] <valorie> if I was more knowledgeable, I'd remember the name
[05:26] <valorie> !auto-start
[05:26] <valorie> heh
[05:26] <valorie> me either ubottu, don't worry about it
[05:26] <valorie> lol
[05:27] <fms6468> Me less!:)
[05:27] <fms6468> Thanks. I'll look into it.
[05:28] <valorie> Konqueror in particular is friendly to staying open just the way you left it
[05:29] <fms6468> I'll keep that in mind. Thx. 
[13:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: did you upload my kubuntu-web-shorcuts package?
[13:35] <shadeslayer> nope ... your getting lazy ... :P
[14:43] <Quintasan_> :./////////
[14:43] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: lol wtf
[14:43] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://wstaw.org/m/2010/12/19/plasma-desktophl1909.jpg
[14:44] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: dunno why on earth, but this bigass green bars are IO
[14:44] <Quintasan> IOWait
[14:44] <Quintasan> not sure why it spikes to almost 3/4ths of the system monitor everytime I do something
[14:57] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: on neon?
[14:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: lol no, on natty
[14:57] <shadeslayer> ah
[14:57] <Quintasan> I believe KDE has nothing to do with this
[14:57] <shadeslayer> well
[14:57] <shadeslayer> im just upgrading ;)
[14:57] <shadeslayer> couldnt upgrade last time
[15:06] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: urgh, working on anything is next to impossible
[15:06] <Quintasan> konsole takes at least 7 seconds to show up
[15:06] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[15:07] <shadeslayer> clean install? :P
[15:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: and aptitude has been loading for at least 20 seconds :/
[15:07] <shadeslayer> lolwut ...
[15:13] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: oh yeah, finally loaded package cache
[15:14] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:33] <ScottK> rbelem: I don't know of an automatic script to write debian/copyright, but licensecheck can help you get the information to put in it.
[15:37] <rbelem> ScottK, I'm writing that script generate automatically the debian/copyright :-)
[15:38] <shadeslayer> ^^ awesum
[15:38] <shadeslayer> rbelem: http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-nexus-oneandroid/
[15:39] <rbelem> right now it is getting the the copyright authors
[15:39] <rbelem> the next step is to get license info
[15:39] <rbelem> shadeslayer, cool
[15:40] <rbelem> shadeslayer, that is awesome
[15:41] <shadeslayer> yep and it *should* *just* work on the Desire as well
[15:41] <shadeslayer> same hardware etc
[15:41] <rbelem> :-D
[15:42] <shadeslayer> i really wanted a N1 ... seeing how its not available in india ... i had to opt for a Desire
[15:43] <rbelem> shadeslayer, i think i will get a nexus s
[15:43] <rbelem> next year
[15:43] <shadeslayer> i wouldnt ....
[15:43] <rbelem> why not?
[15:43] <shadeslayer> doesnt have the hardware i was hoping for
[15:43] <rbelem> hum...
[15:43] <shadeslayer> i expected atleast a Nvidia tegra GPU in that thing
[15:44] <shadeslayer> no GPU equals no sale
[15:44] <shadeslayer> then again .. Nexus S isnt available in india :P
[15:45] <rbelem> shadeslayer, same in brazil :-(
[15:45] <shadeslayer> rbelem: do you have any idea why theyre running a VNC server on top of ubuntu on that post?
[15:45] <shadeslayer> i cant figure out why
[15:45] <shadeslayer> they install LXDE -> install VNC server ... weirdness
[15:46] <shadeslayer> why not just start up X11
[15:46] <shadeslayer> and since theyre installing LXDE on that post ... switch that package to kubuntu-mobile and you should be good to go
[15:47] <rbelem> shadeslayer, i think that they installed because they could use from the desktop
[15:47] <shadeslayer> use what from the desktop?
[15:47] <rbelem> shadeslayer, the telephone from the desktop
[15:47] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:49] <rbelem> shadeslayer, i'll leaving. take my wife and son to lunch :-)
[15:49] <rbelem> * I'm
[15:50] <shadeslayer> sure .. have a good lunch :)
[15:50] <rbelem> thx shadeslayer :-)
[16:19] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf
[16:20] <shadeslayer> ^^ no such mem address
[16:20] <shadeslayer> well ... not in a 8086 Processor anyways
[16:20]  * Quintasan rages
[16:20] <Quintasan> Why. The. Hell. It. Is. So. SLOOOOOOW?!!?!
[16:20] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: dude ... i just loaded the Desire HD ROM
[16:20] <shadeslayer> so epic win
[16:20] <shadeslayer> so fast
[16:21] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: GTFO, I still has locked bootloader :<
[16:21] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:21]  * Quintasan cries at his misfortune this time
[16:21] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: you have a Droid right?
[16:21] <shadeslayer> my cousin got a milestone ... -.-
[16:21] <Quintasan> I can't watch anything, I can't open anything I can't do anything
[16:21] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: If I had a droid, I would be running debian now
[16:22] <shadeslayer> so what do you haz?
[16:22] <shadeslayer> milestone?
[16:22] <Quintasan> Milestone :S
[16:22] <shadeslayer> yep .. he got the same thing
[16:22] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it has a nice feel to it
[16:22] <Quintasan> it sucks
[16:23] <Quintasan> it has locked bootloader
[17:21] <ari-tczew> I'm lookin' for software for KDE4 like gnome-system-monitor, anyone knows?
[17:22] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: ksysguard
[17:22] <shadeslayer> it comes preinstalled, just Alt+F2 > ksysguard
[17:23] <ari-tczew> nice! like alt + ctrl + del in windows
[17:23] <ari-tczew> thanks shadeslayer
[17:24] <shadeslayer> yep
[17:24] <shadeslayer> you can ctrl+Esc as well
[17:24] <ari-tczew> does anybody run maverick? I need a test of clementine package to backport. bug 690297
[17:25] <shadeslayer> im on mav
[17:25] <shadeslayer> although .. im in the middle of a upgrade ^_^
[17:26] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: do you upgrading to natty right now?
[17:26] <shadeslayer> yep
[17:26] <ari-tczew> mhm
[17:39] <Quintasan> ari-tczew: If I manage to unscrew my system the I can test it
[17:39] <ari-tczew> Quintasan: would be nice ;)
[17:39] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://wstaw.org/m/2010/12/19/plasma-desktopwE1909.jpg <--- You'd better be trollin' me about this
[17:40] <shadeslayer> hahahaha
[17:40] <Quintasan> shadeslayer, ari-tczew: Do you have any idea if the natty's kernel has this "magic" 200-lines patch that apparently does wonders?
[17:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: Stop copying pr0n on your system :P
[17:41] <shadeslayer> iirc no
[17:41] <shadeslayer> but i might be wrong so ask #ubuntu-kernel
[17:41] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: well, the best thing is that I'm not doing anything except writing on IRC :/
[17:42] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[17:44] <ari-tczew> Quintasan: I have no idea
[18:56] <djrubble> hey people
[18:57] <djrubble> iv been directed here for a little guidance
[19:04] <djrubble> anyone around????
[19:06] <yofel_> djrubble: more or less, weekend lethargy, what do you need?
[19:07] <djrubble> lol
[19:07] <djrubble> well, iv got a desire hd
[19:07] <djrubble> and have heard talk of plasma mobile
[19:07] <djrubble> im wondering if someone can help me get a mobile interface like that as im thinking of putting ubuntu or kubuntu onto my handset
[19:07] <djrubble> and helping whoever with tests and shit
[19:08] <djrubble> someone asked me to try get plasma-mobile running but then noticed there was a conflict in the guide i was gonna use to install that maeant it would not work
[19:09] <djrubble> thias was the problem he noticed
 djrubble:  basically what that guide does is, download karmic chroot > chroot into it > install lxde on chroot > boot chroot [18:43] <djrubble> and just watched a film Iconrad suggested to me which left my mind feeling sore [18:43] <shadeslayer> djrubble: i might break stuff if i just switch karmic with maverick
[19:10] <djrubble> any ideas are appreciated
[21:25] <dantti> Riddell: ping
[21:39] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1207827 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/CategoryView/ (CategoryDrawer.cpp CategoryDrawer.h CategoryView.cpp) Bump up from KCategoryDrawerV2 to V3. Fixes some compile warnings.
[21:57] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1207829 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (2 files in 2 dirs) Don't leak QPropertyAnimations
[22:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did I get an upload request?
[22:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: branch still says kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts
[22:03] <apachelogger> ...
[22:08] <ulysses> "Get 4.4.5 into lucid-updates (Kontact 4.4.7) " could be marked as Done, since KDE 4.4.5 and KDE PIM 4.4.8 is in lucid-updates/proposed
[22:10] <apachelogger> ulysses: whut?
[22:12] <ulysses> no?
[22:13] <apachelogger> yes?
[22:13]  * apachelogger does not understand no nothing
[22:15] <ulysses> hm, I don't have to IRC late:/
[22:15] <yofel> todo list?
[22:16] <apachelogger> readme files?
[22:16]  * apachelogger finds communicating in super short sentences a bit difficult ^^
[22:17] <yofel> make a microbologging service that stops at 70 chars for practice
[22:19] <apachelogger> uhhhh
[22:19] <apachelogger> we could just make showkoq segfault at >70
[22:19] <apachelogger> I am sure it does that anyway
[22:19] <yofel> lol
[22:21] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1207835 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ (ApplicationDelegate.cpp ApplicationDelegate.h) Member variable cleanup in the ApplicationDelegate
[22:23] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1207836 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ApplicationDelegate.h SVN_SILENT: Organize private member variables better
[22:23] <apachelogger> qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped
[22:23] <apachelogger> this qemu shit is making me wanna kill someone
[22:24]  * ulysses hides
[22:27] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1207837 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationModel/ApplicationDelegate.cpp main.cpp) Add the app-install-data icon directory to the KDE resource pool in a more global location
[22:58] <apachelogger> wohooo
[22:58] <apachelogger> mem access fail
[22:59] <apachelogger> arrrsome
[22:59]  * apachelogger fears that qemu is utter shit right there
[23:13] <apachelogger> dantti: pinggggggggy
[23:13] <apachelogger> btw, do we actually have touchpad kcm stuff that works?
[23:18] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: synaptiks is supposed to work
[23:18] <apachelogger> do we have that on maverick?
[23:19]  * apachelogger is going nuts here
[23:19] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you see my idea in #kubuntu?
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: yus
[23:19] <apachelogger> install install
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> synaptic has a thingy where it generates a download bash script
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> we could take that further and make it easier for normal people
[23:20] <apachelogger> yes, that is the idea
[23:20] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: a bit like the stuff packagekit supports
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> packagekit supports that?
[23:21] <apachelogger> well, no, but yes but now
[23:21] <apachelogger> they support sort of upgrade meta-packages
[23:21] <apachelogger> which are a bundle of the actual packages
[23:21] <apachelogger> then again pyapt never implemented it
[23:21] <apachelogger> not sure if aptcc did
[23:21] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: man pkgenpack
[23:22] <JontheEchidna> cool
[23:22] <apachelogger> hm, it actually seems to do stuff with aptcc
[23:23] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: maybe even have the same format? so they could be interchangable...
[23:24] <JontheEchidna> dunno how to generate one. running pkgenpack tries to download things and fails
[23:41] <pgquiles> is it possible to add a PPA while installing?
[23:42] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yeah, probably not implemented
[23:42] <yofel> pgquiles: sure, you won't be able to do anything with it though until apt is free again
[23:45] <dantti> apachelogger: pooong :P
[23:46] <apachelogger> dantti: aptcc pkgenpack
[23:46] <apachelogger> now!
[23:47] <yofel> pgquiles: or do you mean add a PPA while you're installing the system?
[23:47] <dantti> apachelogger: PackageKit has support to install catalogs if that's the question?
[23:47] <dantti> apachelogger: btw are you a packager?
[23:48] <dantti> I have a serious problem with kpk :( I did a very stupid  thing and I don't know how to get this fixed :/
[23:51] <pgquiles> yofel: while setting up the system, at the same point I'm asked whether to enable closed-source packages and updates, I'd like to be able to add PPAs. That'd be very useful for the kubuntu-ppa, for instance. I'm now installing a fresh maverick in a virtual machine and later I'll need to add the kubuntu-ppa's to go up to KDE 4.5.4 :-/
[23:52] <yofel> pgquiles: file a wishlist bug for ubiquity I guess, not possible currently (would be cool though yeah)
[23:52] <dantti> apachelogger: also about pk-catalog their are nice since you can create a file that "sorta" of works on kubuntu/fedora/suse...
[23:52] <dantti> *they
[23:54] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: care for a skype session?
[23:54] <apachelogger> dantti: care for a skype session?
[23:54] <apachelogger> yofel: care for a skype session?
[23:54] <apachelogger> anyone cares for a skype session?
[23:54] <apachelogger> fun fun fun
[23:54] <yofel> I don't use skype
[23:54] <dantti> apachelogger: what's your id?
[23:55] <dantti> apachelogger: apachelogger, how predictable lol
[23:58] <pgquiles> yofel: done
[23:59] <pgquiles> LP 692381