[00:00] <drbobb> frankly if i can't find a fix i'll have to look for another player, cause this makes amarok pretty useless
[00:02] <James147> drbobb: try it on a new user, if it works as it should there its a config problem
[00:02] <drbobb> James147: i am on a new user. i just installed kubuntu on a brand new laptop a few days ago
[00:03] <James147> drbobb: what version of kubuntu and amarok?
[00:04] <drbobb> James147: current, 10.10
[00:04] <James147> what version of amarok?
[00:04] <drbobb> ok so maybe the config got corrupted somehow, though it's only like the second time i'm playing any songs on this machine
[00:05] <drbobb> 3.4.3/KDE 4.5.4
[00:05] <drbobb> sorry typo: 2.3.2
[00:06] <drbobb> i guess nuking amarok's config files should be as good as creating a new user
[00:07] <James147> drbobb: hmm, same version here... use to have a the same problem ages ago... not sure waht I did to fix it again, probally deleted amaroks configs
[00:09] <valorie> you might rename, rather than nuking
[00:09] <djustice> drbobb: you didn't play with the track progression button?
[00:09] <valorie> so you have access to your stats and such
[00:09] <djustice> indeed. better to save it and figure out what went wrong.
[00:10] <valorie> drbobb: we can help you in #amarok
[00:10] <valorie> if you are game to use it
[00:10] <drbobb> like I said i just set it up the other day, i don't mind nuking the config and starting over
[00:10] <binkula> hi guys
[00:10] <valorie> ok
[00:11] <valorie> one thing you might try is changing phonon backends
[00:11] <valorie> there is gstreamer, vlc and xine to choose from
[00:11] <valorie> everyone has their favorite
[00:11] <valorie> Settings > Configure Amarok > Playback > Configure Phonon: Backends tab
[00:12] <drbobb> xine seems to be the default
[00:12] <valorie> be aware that codecs can be backend sensitive
[00:12] <valorie> so if you change, be sure you have kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:12] <valorie> which has them all
[00:13] <valorie> right now xine is the default, but that will soon change
[00:13] <valorie> Amarok devels want phonon-vlc
[00:13] <drbobb> oh one weird thing is amarok wasn't changing the icon on the play button during playback
[00:13] <valorie> Kubuntu devels want phonon-gstreamer
[00:13] <valorie> that was a weird bug in 2.3.2
[00:13] <drbobb> it should be pause while playing, and it remained with the arrow
[00:13] <valorie> seems to be fixed now
[00:14] <valorie> right, I experienced that
[00:14] <drbobb> now that i nuked the config it's back to normal
[00:14] <valorie> cool!
[00:14] <drbobb> but i never did anything unusual to trigger the bug so i expect it to resurface
[00:14] <valorie> just so you know #amarok exists
[00:15] <drbobb> ok thx
[00:15] <valorie> it seems that sometimes xine stutters on a bad tag or something
[00:15] <drbobb> what's wrong with the xine backend?
[00:15] <valorie> and seems to give up, rather than just forging ahead
[00:15] <valorie> no one is maintaining it
[00:15] <valorie> I don't know the details
[00:15] <binkula> I have a compiz question: is it possible to have windows translucent by default? I've only figured out the keyboard toggling method
[00:16] <drbobb> oh i see
[00:16] <drbobb> yeah playback continues to next song
[00:17] <drbobb> ok thanks again
[00:18] <James147> binkula: in kwin you can, dont know about compiz though, you might want to ask on #ubuntu if no one else know here
[00:19] <binkula> thanks :)
[00:19] <James147> binkula: any reason your using compiz instead of kwin?
[00:20] <binkula> well I'm using an emerald theme
[01:10] <Sary> if you can't pass to the Desktop from the LiveCD , what does that mean!
[01:11] <gr8m8> Sary: if I understand you right you booted the live cd and don't get the desktop showing is that right?
[01:12] <Sary> gr8m8, Thats right :) , and it's stuck at the Kubuntu installation window.
[01:14] <Sary> Tried all of those Boot parameters in F6 options list , non of them passed.
[01:14] <gr8m8> did you try the cd check?
[01:14] <Sary> IT's an LG E300
[01:15] <Sary> I did , no fails.
[01:16] <Sary> Also , the "safe mode " option is missing form F4 mode options.
[01:18] <gr8m8> so it doesn't get past the menu - I'll have a quick google
[01:19] <Sary> Yeah , you know that installation process Window on the LiveCd , To try - install Kubuntu.
[01:19] <Sary> it gets stuck right there.
[01:22] <gr8m8> Sary: from here - http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/view/1276 - it seems you need to put   nomodeset   as a kernel boot option at the menu
[01:26] <Sary> gr8m8, much appreciate it .. i'll look at it.
[01:27] <gr8m8> np :)
[01:27] <Sary> i remember selecting that option , with the same result.
[01:28] <gr8m8> in www.google.com/linux I used lg e300 as a search term and that was the first non data recovery disk option
[01:29] <Sary> What blow me away is that i tried booting with Linux Mint LiveCD .. i passed to the Disktop , i could move the mouse , but can't select anything with it.
[01:29] <Sary> Nice step on searching :D
[01:29] <gr8m8> seems there may be some settings X needs to use your hardware
[01:30] <Sary> You know what , am a try it that option again from Kubuntu .. just for you :)
[01:31] <gr8m8> heh :)
[01:31] <Sary> Yeah , but no clue to how could i go to that process.
[01:32] <gr8m8> I think F1 lets you add boot parameters but it has been a while since I had to do anything to boot into the live cd
[01:32] <Sary> also , when i selected those options .. it gets stuck at * Checking battery state ..
[01:33] <Sary> F1 , it is .. i'll look at it.
[01:33] <gr8m8> I've seen a few ppl with that issue - mostly on desktop comps with no battery
[01:34] <Sary> here , the battery is plugged in .. how about plugg in it off to see what happens
[01:35] <gr8m8> worth a shot
[01:35] <Sary> Alright.
[01:36] <Sary> So now , i should delete "--" and add nomodeset .. then what
[01:37] <gr8m8> hit b for boot iirc
[01:38] <Sary> should i delete "quiet splash" as well.
[01:38] <Sary> b it is.
[01:38] <gr8m8> if you delete splash you will get text output for the boot process
[01:39] <Sary> Ah
[01:39] <Sary> i hit b .. it enters with the Boot option line.
[01:42] <Sary> I am in ..
[01:42] <gr8m8> woot!
[01:43] <Sary> i passed to the Desktop , i hit Try Kubuntu :D
[01:44] <Sary> My bad , seems that i didn't know how to use those options
[01:44] <Sary> i just heard the KDE log in sound :)
[01:45] <gr8m8> and the mouse works ok?
[01:45] <Sary> Yes
[01:45] <gr8m8> sounds like it is all good so far then
[01:46] <Sary> Thanks a Bunch gr8m8 :) , i was trying for like 2 days now ! Wow
[01:46] <gr8m8> np :)
[01:46] <Sary> No , to the partition part
[01:47] <Sary> *Now
[01:51] <Sary> Hope it will last after the Reboot.
[01:51] <gr8m8> should do
[01:53] <Sary> Okay, waiting to pass to Disktop Setup ..
[01:54] <Sary> The installer crashed !
[01:58] <binkula> all right I was in the wrong section
[01:58] <binkula> I have all windows transparent now
[02:18] <Sary> gr8m8, am on the last installation process Thanks to you :), much appreciate it .. cheers!
[02:22] <gr8m8> well done Sary :)
[02:26] <Sary> :)
[02:29] <Sary> Now, with a happy smile on may face :D .. i can pass that LG Notebook with a Linux flavor " Kubuntu " Yeah ,Cheah!
[02:29] <Sary> May the open source be with you !
[02:39] <sersang> terminal advise for kubuntu instead of konsole
[02:39] <sersang> didnt like it
[02:58] <fernando> qu eonda
[02:58] <fernando> no hay nadie
[02:59] <Sary> Rebooted, logged in .. and now
[03:00] <fernando> una paguina en español
[03:00] <fernando> porque nose ingles
[03:00] <Snowhog> !sp | fernando
[03:00] <Sary> !es | fernando
[03:00] <fernando> gracias
[03:02] <Sary> After logging in , i am stuck again .. the disktop didn't show up. lol
[03:17] <Sary> Go it
[03:18] <poyntz> is there any way to have graphic compositing on by default? or do you always have to hit Alt + Shift + F12 to turn it on?
[03:19] <KimLaroux> poyntz, in Power Management, configure the Power Profile you want it activated on
[03:22] <Sary> Removed quiet and splash from grub bootloader and replace them with " nomodeset " .. Ctrl+X to boot .. and now am on the Desktop .. Activating the Graphic Driver.
[03:27] <poyntz> KimLaroux: just checked.. apparently it isn't disabled in any of the profiles
[03:35] <poyntz> is it just me or does 10.10 not stock a .cbr viewer?
[03:36] <poyntz> if i double click on them okular attempts to open them but fails..
[03:36] <valorie> what is .cbr?
[03:37] <valorie> it always works for pdfs, but I've not heard of .cbr
[03:37] <poyntz> comic book file
[03:37] <valorie> ah
[03:37] <poyntz> apparently i need evince..
[03:37] <valorie> give me a link, and I'll check
[03:37] <poyntz> or a gtk program
[03:38] <valorie> I have 10.10
[03:38] <poyntz> me too
[03:38] <poyntz> what did you want a link to?
[03:40] <valorie> a page/file that needs that .cbr viewer
[03:40] <poyntz> ahh.. yeh i dont have links
[03:40] <poyntz> i have e-comics downloaded
[03:41] <poyntz> think i had gnome when i did.. but cant remember
[03:42] <valorie> ok
[03:42] <valorie> I think I had a comic-viewer at one time
[03:42] <valorie> comix or something
[03:42] <poyntz> apparently omaque opens comic books n its a kde app..
[03:42] <valorie> but never could get it to do anything
[03:44] <poyntz> gah all the www.kde-* websites seem to be down... =S
[03:49] <valorie> woah, ask in #kde-www
[03:50] <valorie> they were all just moved
[03:50] <valorie> I thought successfully
[04:12] <tanniyn> Hello Everyone, is KDE-Look.org down?...
[05:47] <andrewh192> hey, not sure, but i just tried loading it
[05:47] <andrewh192> and all it says is that the connection has timed out
[05:50] <cfraz89> yeah I think its down
[05:58] <SC-M> how to change desktop login manager from GDM to KDM?
[05:59] <cfraz89> SC-M: itll be an option to update-alternatives
[06:00] <cfraz89> one sec
[06:03] <cfraz89> maybe try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[06:06] <izinucs> Is there a way to sort menus alphabetically?
[06:06] <ryan__> right click in ur menu
[06:06] <ryan__> like favorites
[06:07] <izinucs> k.. I'll give it a shot when I'm on my desktop tomorrow..
[06:07] <ryan__> yea...It'll just ask a-xz or z-a
[06:08] <cfraz89> only in favorites though?
[06:08] <ryan__> let me check
[06:09] <ryan__> all other menu's are a-z already
[06:11] <cfraz89> ah nice spot
[06:14] <saeia> No sound in chrome after reboot?
[06:14] <saeia> but system sounds work?
[06:16] <ryan__> 10.10?
[06:16] <ryan__> or 10.4?
[06:17] <saeia> 10.10 prolly just installed today if you are addressing me
[06:17] <saeia> errr
[06:17] <saeia> 10.4
[06:17] <ryan__> lol...sorry yea......hmmm
[06:17] <ryan__> ok
[06:17] <saeia> idk how do i check
[06:17] <ryan__> 10.4 needs an upgrade
[06:18] <ryan__> go to ursoftware add and remove
[06:18] <saeia> oh yeah im running 10.10
[06:18] <ryan__> lol
[06:19] <saeia> And im having problems with nivida drivers and dual moniters..
[06:19] <ryan__> odd...my 10.10 works fine
[06:19] <saeia> something about must refresh x server..
[06:19] <ryan__> its also new
[06:20] <cfraz89> saeia: your using the nvidia control panel?
[06:20] <saeia> yeah
[06:20] <cfraz89> trying to go twinview? could you paste exact error?
[06:21] <saeia> twinview works
[06:21] <saeia> Cannon apply settings complety error
[06:22] <saeia> and when i attempt to save to X Configureation file..
[06:22] <saeia> i fet "failed to parse existing x config file'/ect/x11/xorg.conf;!
[06:23] <izinucs> saeia: you have to start nvidia-settings with sudo from cli to be able to save to xorg.conf
[06:23] <saeia> oh
[06:23] <ryan__> my 10.10 failed on kubuntu and gnome oo ...had to go back to 10.4 and run 10.10 on my other lap top intel card
[06:24] <saeia> is there a shortcut to terminal?
[06:24] <izinucs> saeia: alt+F2
[06:24] <ryan__> with nvidia card that is
[06:24] <saeia> 8800GT
[06:25] <izinucs> saeia: actually kdesudo nvidia-settings
[06:25] <saeia> thanks izinucs
[06:26] <saeia> Same error.
[06:27] <saeia> and i get a horrid screaching when i turn my second one on.. >>;
[06:27] <saeia> dunno if thats related.. lol
[06:28] <saeia> Could it be that i installed a specific driver instead of (verison current)?
[06:28] <cfraz89> what version are you using?
[06:28] <izinucs> saeia: what did you install? and how?
[06:28] <cfraz89> currents the one for 8800
[06:29] <saeia> On hardware drivers i have driver verison 173 and another one that says (version current)
[06:29] <izinucs> from the repos or nvidia?
[06:29] <saeia> im sorry im a complete noob..
[06:29] <izinucs> saeia: current (from repos) is actually 195 I think..
[06:30] <saeia> Well noob at linux..
[06:30] <saeia> So i should try that one instead?
[06:30] <cfraz89> nah current is 260
[06:30] <izinucs> saeia: current? yes.. should be better than 173
[06:30] <saeia> alright activating that now.
[06:30] <ryan__> izinucs: did u try ur "additional drivers" located in system of ur menu?
[06:31] <ryan__> it will detect ur spacific driver
[06:31] <izinucs> ryan__: I have no driver issue.. saeia  might
[06:31] <ryan__> \sorry
[06:31] <ryan__> yea
[06:31] <saeia> brb restarting
[06:32] <cfraz89> i like my nouveau drivers now
[06:33] <saeia> yeah im getting the same errors still
[06:33] <izinucs> saeia: what errors? missed that earlier
[06:33] <ryan__> saeia:  did u try ur "additional drivers" located in system of ur menu?
[06:34] <saeia> o.O all i have is hardware drivers
[06:34] <ryan__> that'ss work too
[06:35] <izinucs> that's what he means
[06:35] <saeia> And im tring to get dual moniters to work.. when i hit apply
[06:35] <ryan__> it gives u nothing?
[06:35] <saeia> Yeah thats wherei got thetwo diffrent 172 and current drivers
[06:35] <saeia> thats the only options i had
[06:35] <izinucs> saeia: are the monitors the same or different.. one vga vs. dvi.. 1024x768 vs. larger etc.?
[06:35] <saeia> Nope both  gateay EV9100
[06:36] <saeia> well..
[06:36] <izinucs> saeia: connected the same way?
[06:36] <saeia> actually now its not giving me full resalution on my second..
[06:36] <izinucs> saeia: :)
[06:36] <saeia> this drivers bleh
[06:36] <saeia> wait
[06:36] <ryan__> also in ur system settings did u try and config through gui the doul monitor settings there?
[06:36] <cfraz89> that dunn work for nvidia
[06:37] <saeia> the hell
[06:37] <ryan__> lol
[06:37] <saeia> the last driver identifyed them both as  ev910s and had options up to 1600x1200@75hrz
[06:37] <cfraz89> saeia: just to make sure, could you pop open a terminal and say what it says for "apt-cache policy nvidia-current" ?
[06:37] <saeia> alright
[06:39] <saeia> vidia-current:
[06:39] <saeia>   Installed: 195.36.24-0ubuntu1~10.04
[06:39] <saeia>   Candidate: 195.36.24-0ubuntu1~10.04
[06:39] <saeia> is that what you want to see?
[06:39] <saeia> oh i am running 10.4
[06:39] <izinucs> saeia: do you know what card you have?
[06:39] <saeia> 8800GT
[06:39] <cfraz89> yeah thats fine...
[06:39] <cfraz89> old driver though
[06:40] <cfraz89> saeia: have you ever used a ppa? you might have better luck with newer drivers
[06:40] <izinucs> saeia: you might need a more current driver.  there's a ppa for that
[06:40] <izinucs> cfraz89: x-swat? ppa?
[06:40] <saeia> nope..
[06:40] <saeia> im pretty much brandnew to linux..
[06:40] <cfraz89> was thinking nvidia-vdpau
[06:40] <izinucs> cfraz89: yea .. that one has a link to x-swat for the driver.. 260+
[06:41] <cfraz89> ah ok
[06:41] <izinucs> cfraz89: walk him though how to add it to his sources and update to make the 260 "current".. I've gotta run..
[06:41] <cfraz89> saeia: a ppa is a repo for a specific person/team
[06:41] <cfraz89> a good way to get new stuff
[06:41] <saeia> thanks izinucs
[06:42] <saeia> hmm
[06:43] <saeia> so how do i install one?o.o
[06:43] <cfraz89> i think in software center there is an option to add repositories?
[06:45] <saeia> where ? x.x
[06:46] <cfraz89> sorry dont have software center myself, using kubuntu
[06:46] <saeia> im using kubuntu also..
[06:46] <cfraz89> ah ok
[06:46] <cfraz89> makes sense :D
[06:47] <saeia> yup espcially this being #kubuntu
[06:47] <saeia> lol
[06:47] <cfraz89> if you go to settings on the left side
[06:47] <cfraz89> then edit origins
[06:47] <cfraz89> not sure if 10.04 had the new interface for kpackagekit. im on 11.04 now :D
[06:47] <saeia> im on 11.04 too
[06:48] <saeia> edit orgins?
[06:48] <saeia> i dont see that
[06:48] <cfraz89> saeia: arent you 10.04?
[06:48] <saeia> oh yeah
[06:48] <saeia> meh
[06:48] <saeia> fail
[06:49] <cfraz89> lol
[06:49] <cfraz89> hmm might be easier to do this over terminal when explaining
[06:49] <saeia> sorry i suck so much
[06:49] <cfraz89> lol all good
[06:49] <cfraz89> then its just "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates"
[06:49] <valorie> saeia: you don't suck
[06:49] <saeia> k
[06:49] <valorie> you're starting out
[06:49] <valorie> everyone has to start somewhere
[06:50] <ryan__> Linux if a great and fun world and great commutity
[06:50] <ryan__> =)
[06:50] <saeia> ok i think that wokred cfraz89
[06:51] <cfraz89> cool, now sudo apt-get update
[06:51] <saeia> k
[06:51] <saeia> now?
[06:52] <cfraz89> if you do sudo apt-get upgrade, is nvidia in the list?
[06:53] <cfraz89> possibly not
[06:53] <cfraz89> i think the ppa uses a different name for nvidia drivers
[06:53] <saeia> i just see alot of ubuntu.com
[06:54] <sresu> I use Kubuntu/KDE alone but today while checking for  updates I found language pack updates for gnome as well like language-pack-fr, language-pack-gnome-fr and language-pack-kde-fr... Why I'm getting updates for gnome as well?
[06:55] <cfraz89> saeia: apt-get upgrade?
[06:55] <cfraz89> it should ask before it starts
[06:55] <cfraz89> with a list of what will be upgraded
[06:55] <cfraz89> but i think nvidia-current wont be in the list
[06:55] <saeia> it http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release.gpg
[06:55] <saeia> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/main Translation-en_US
[06:55] <saeia> Hit http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release.gpg
[06:55] <saeia> Ign http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner Translation-en_US
[06:55] <saeia> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release.gpg
[06:55] <FloodBotK1> saeia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:55] <saeia> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US
[06:55] <cfraz89> saeia: you probably have to do sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics drivers aswell
[06:55] <ryan__> cfraz89, have u played with ur softwaare sources?
[06:56] <cfraz89> ryan__: a tonne lol. love my ppas
[06:56] <ryan__> thats y
[06:56] <saeia> hum
[06:56] <ryan__> =)
[06:57] <ryan__> you opened up ubuntu sources as well
[06:58] <saeia> hm what would be the proper syntax of the command cfraz gave me? o.O
[06:58] <saeia> it keeps coming up cannot find package
[06:59] <saeia> cfraz89:  what would be the snytax of that last line?
[06:59] <cfraz89> wow i really have to make a swapfile lol
[07:00] <cfraz89> saeia: "sudo apt-get upgrade" should list upgrades first
[07:01] <cfraz89> i would say let that update everything
[07:01] <cfraz89> and then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers"
[07:01] <cfraz89> should jam the new ones in, possibly asking to uninstall nvidia-current
[07:03] <saeia> cfraz89:  it says cant find package nvidia-graphics=drivers
[07:08] <Guest84702> my fonts look funny...
[07:09] <Guest84702> and when i enable antialiasing, it messes up firefox and chrome fonts
[07:09] <Guest84702> can someone help me please
[07:09] <Guest84702> im using ubuntu and kubuntu
[07:11] <cfraz89> Guest84702: what kind of funny?
[07:11] <cfraz89> make sure you enable sub-pixel aa if its an lcd. and what font are you using?
[07:11] <Guest84702> ubuntu fonts
[07:11] <cfraz89> lcd?
[07:11] <Guest84702> yes sir
[07:12] <cfraz89> have sub-pixel turned on? medium hinting looks good with this font
[07:13] <doctordoctor> but it looks fine in ubuntu
[07:13] <cfraz89> ubuntu defaults to sub-pixel on. not sure if kubuntu does...
[07:13] <doctordoctor> yeah...
[07:13] <cfraz89> but just make sure in fonts next to anti-aliasing press configure
[07:13] <cfraz89> and check off sub-pixel and set level to medium
[07:13] <doctordoctor> done. let me restart x and let u know how it goes
[07:13] <cfraz89> cool
[07:15] <doctordoctor> nice. thanks
[07:15] <cfraz89> np :D
[07:15] <saeia> cfraz89: it says cant find package nvidia-graphics=drivers
[07:15] <saeia> er - instead of =
[07:16] <cfraz89> ah crap. what if you do sudo apt-cache search nvidia?
[07:16] <cfraz89> wish theyd change the default font settings. i think thats why alot of people think kde has bad fonts
[07:18] <doctordoctor> everything looks beautoful
[07:18] <doctordoctor> thank you
[07:18] <cfraz89> yeah its a pretty sweet font
[07:19] <doctordoctor> ive tried so many kde distros...i just love kubuntu
[07:19] <cfraz89> same :)
[07:20] <doctordoctor> and running it with ubuntu installed as well is just awesome
[07:20] <cfraz89> haha best of both worlds?
[07:20] <doctordoctor> the only thing i hate is the splash screen at boot
[07:21] <cfraz89> which one?
[07:21] <doctordoctor> u know the one which says ubuntu/kubuntu with those 4 dots
[07:21] <doctordoctor> the one that comes up after gurb
[07:21] <cfraz89> yeah, dont like either?
[07:21] <cfraz89> saeia: anything comes up?
[07:22] <cfraz89> k firefox 4 has finally won me over chromium
[07:23] <doctordoctor> actually...i love the one that came after installation. the text like one after updating ubuntu turns me off
[07:23] <cfraz89> ahh because your using nvidia drivers?
[07:23] <doctordoctor> ati
[07:24] <cfraz89> theres a fix for that, one sec
[07:24] <cfraz89> happens when the drivers don't do kms
[07:25] <cfraz89> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html
[07:25] <cfraz89> or manually is here
[07:25] <cfraz89> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[07:28] <doctordoctor> cfraz89: what about plymouth manager
[07:28] <cfraz89> whats that?
[07:29] <doctordoctor> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/plymouth-manager-lets-you-change-boot-theme-resolution-in-ubuntu/
[07:30] <cfraz89> looks cool
[08:02] <cfraz89> hmm anyone know why transfer over wireless would be heaps slow?
[08:03] <cfraz89> also why my n cards always connect at 65mb?
[08:32] <doctordoctor> cant seem to load the comics, and the other kde improvements like themes, wallpapers etc
[08:33] <doctordoctor> anyone have any ideas?
[08:34] <valorie> what are you trying, exactly?
[08:34] <doctordoctor> get new wall papers
[08:34] <valorie> and in what, by which I mean, which version of Kub. ?
[08:34] <doctordoctor> cant even seem to get a list of comics from the comic widgets
[08:35] <doctordoctor> kubuntu 10.10
[08:35] <doctordoctor> this has never happened before...had to reinstall ubuntu and everything last night
[08:35] <doctordoctor> cant seem to find anythign since then
[08:36] <darthanubis> you had? to reinstall because of the widgets?
[08:36] <doctordoctor> no...i kinda messed up the previous installation
[08:37] <darthanubis> oh
[08:37] <doctordoctor> is the server or something not working
[08:38] <doctordoctor> the kde-look.org site isnt working either
[08:41] <valorie> oh right, it was down earlier
[08:41] <valorie> that's a private site
[08:41] <valorie> not sure how to contact the owner
[08:42] <valorie> kde-look and kde-apps are both down
[08:42] <valorie> same meta-site
[08:44] <doctordoctor> thats probably why it isnt workign then
[08:48] <doctordoctor> i love kde
[08:48] <doctordoctor> especially now that ive got the fonts thing resolved
[08:59] <valorie> cool
[08:59] <valorie> I love it too
[08:59] <valorie> have always, ever since I left windows
[09:19] <asraniel_> hi, is there any tool on the kubuntu 10.10 live cd to manage my partitions?
[09:20] <Torch> asraniel_: no, but you can download kde partition manager from a running live cd and use it
[09:21] <asraniel_> Torch: ah ice
[09:21] <asraniel_> *nice
[09:21] <asraniel_> Torch: you know the name of it? i usually use gparted
[09:22] <Torch> asraniel_: the package is called partitionmanager
[09:31] <ubuntu> installing kubuntu/trinity
[09:32] <asraniel_> jeah, i just made the kubuntu installer crash ;)
[09:33] <ubuntu> kde3 back to life!
[09:34] <asraniel_> i hate kde3, kde4 is epic
[09:35] <cfraz89> no, kde3 was epic
[09:35] <cfraz89> kde 4 is more epic
[09:35] <cfraz89> ultra-epic even
[09:36] <asraniel_> cfraz89: ok ;)
[09:37] <ubuntu> yeah it seems kde3 apps are outdated
[09:37] <ubuntu> even trinity ("kde 3.5.12") uses konqueror 3.5.10
[09:37] <Torch> ubuntu: what else would they use?
[09:38] <ubuntu> perhaps i just need to find a distro that customizes kde4 nicely
[09:40] <cfraz89> its not customised unless you did it :D
[09:40] <valorie> Slack-KDE?
[09:41] <valorie> :-)
[09:41] <ubuntu> i want either a windows 7-like kde4 (translucent taskbar + translucent kwin (Aurorae)),
[09:42] <cfraz89> ubuntu- go for the oxygen-transparent style
[09:42] <cfraz89> get full transparent windows and looks good
[09:42] <ubuntu> or a kde-3 like kde4 (flashy, opaque taskbar + polyester kwin/kstyle)
[09:42] <ubuntu> cfraz89: i just want the window frame to be translucent
[09:42] <ubuntu> o
[09:43] <ubuntu> i know that style
[09:43] <cfraz89> ah k well just aurorae then, or qtcurve can do it too
[09:43] <ubuntu> every widget except text boxes becomes translucent
[09:44] <ubuntu> there's one thing i hate fedora (which i currently use): it doesn't even have Aurorae kwin in its repo now that kde-look.org is down
[09:44] <cfraz89> isnt aurorae part of kde now even?
[09:45] <ubuntu> dunno
[09:45] <ubuntu> currently i'm installing ubuntu/trinity (kde3) while chatting here
[09:45] <ubuntu> i found its Konqueror is 3.5.10 which means most software is outdated too
[09:46] <ubuntu> so i really shouldn't miss kde3
[09:46] <ubuntu> miss as in 'think of'
[09:46] <ubuntu> 'think of me, think of me fondly'
[09:47] <wqapol> When I try update software sources through KPackageKit, the 'download package files' dialog pauses at 99% (55/56th file).
[09:51] <wqapol> Unchecking qwibber-daily from sources list did the job. But its a bit of trial and error to find the odd one out.
[09:54] <cfraz89> wqapol: i guess if you apt-get update from terminal you could see which mirror is hanging
[09:55] <wqapol> Thanks will remember it the next time somthing like this happens.
[09:58] <wqapol> Yes it does show, it says gpg error: ng signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 51BB8E83EBA7BD49
[09:58] <wqapol> . Its a 404 not found.
[09:58] <cfraz89> i get that for mirrors i add without adding the key, doesn't delay though?
[09:59] <cfraz89> usually i get delays for a server timeout
[10:06] <ggeorgy> hi
[10:06] <cfraz89> hi ggeorgy
[10:07] <ggeorgy> i search a program for video transcoding
[10:08] <ggeorgy> to transcoding video for my phone
[10:08] <ggeorgy> samsung gt-s5230
[10:08] <cfraz89> ahh mm used ot have a good one
[10:09] <cfraz89> cant remember the name
[10:09] <ggeorgy> i found transmaggedon in software center
[10:09] <cfraz89> lol saw that
[10:10] <ggeorgy> but is too slow
[10:11] <cfraz89> ffmpeg is a good fast backend
[10:11] <cfraz89> just have to find a good interface
[10:11] <ggeorgy> yes
[10:12] <cfraz89> pytube?
[10:12] <cfraz89> ah winff
[10:12] <cfraz89> thats what i used
[10:12] <ggeorgy> ok
[10:13] <ggeorgy> i have pymaxe
[10:13] <cfraz89> any good?
[10:13] <ggeorgy> but can't convert video
[10:13] <cfraz89> gonna need to start transcoding for my htc legend soon
[10:17] <cfraz89> ah apparently handbrake has a linux version too. i think its pretty popular?
[10:17] <ggeorgy> i installed winff
[10:18] <ggeorgy> ffmpeg?
[10:18] <ggeorgy> i dont find
[10:18] <cfraz89> oh did you install winff from ubuntu repos?
[10:19] <ggeorgy> yes
[10:19] <cfraz89> it cant find ffmpeg?
[10:19] <ggeorgy> no
[10:19] <cfraz89> ill try installing it
[10:19] <ggeorgy> ok thanks
[10:20] <cfraz89> at least its installing ffmpeg when i install winff
[10:26] <cfraz89> hmm, it worked, though missing the mp3 codec
[10:26] <cfraz89> just check your preferences, in linux tab,
[10:26] <cfraz89> is path set to /usr/bin/ffmpeg?
[11:03] <tim> hi, after an upgrade to kde 4.6 b2, the gpg integration into kmail is broken. gpg-agent is running, and tools like kleopatra work fine as well. is this a known issue or maybe even a solution for this?
[11:05] <tweedle> hi
[11:05] <valorie> known issue
[11:05] <valorie> not sure about a fix yet, though
[11:05] <valorie> you might ask in #kde
[11:05] <valorie> :(
[11:06] <tweedle> im trying to install the ATI drivers from amd/ati.com
[11:06] <tweedle> but
[11:07] <tweedle> im using 8.10
[11:07] <tweedle> because it's the only version the says i actually have the card installed
[11:07] <tweedle> and because it's an older version, i have to use programs that im not used to
[11:08] <tweedle> can someone tell me the package name that i can install the synaptic package manager with?
[11:08] <tweedle> i cant seem to find it in adept
[11:11] <tweedle> no one can help ?
[11:11] <tweedle> :(.
[11:11] <cfraz89> its synaptic :)
[11:12] <tweedle> it says thats not a package
[11:13] <tweedle> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[11:19] <tim> valorie: ok ... i'll ask there
[11:20] <valorie> that's weird
[11:21] <valorie> that used to be the first thing I installed
[11:21] <valorie> lol
[11:21] <sosaited> how can I install adept?
[11:21] <valorie> finally kpackagekit is good enough to use!
[11:21] <valorie> tweedle: maybe you don't have all repositories allowed?
[11:22] <valorie> you can do that work in even old kpackagekit
[11:22] <valorie> sosaited: same answer
[11:22] <valorie> in kpackagekit
[11:22] <sosaited> valorie: Nothing found in that
[11:22] <tweedle> same
[11:23] <valorie> wow, well, check your repositories
[11:23] <tweedle> it says i cant install synaptic because it has no installation candidate
[11:23] <valorie> make sure all the reasonable stuff is being used
[11:23] <tweedle> i have
[11:23] <valorie> and remember to update
[11:23] <valorie> ok
[11:23] <valorie> well, I know I used synaptic back then
[11:23] <valorie> and I could still now if I wanted
[11:23] <tweedle> i dont want to update because it makes my video card disaapear
[11:24] <tweedle> this is the only version that shows it
[11:24] <valorie> I understand, and I'm not trying to talk you into anything
[11:24] <tweedle> i undestand
[11:24] <tweedle> is their a .deb of synaptic?
[11:24] <valorie> except you have to have the repository where it is enabled
[11:24] <tweedle> i cant compile yet either
[11:24] <valorie> and i don't know where that is
[11:24] <tweedle> im looking hard for it
[11:24] <sosaited> valorie: All the repositories are enabled. I'll try to update the sources if I can find how in KPackage, I am a Ubuntu user stuck to set up a Kubuntu :(
[11:25] <valorie> ok, well
[11:25] <valorie> IMO it's better
[11:25] <valorie> but it's all in your taste and what you are used to
[11:27] <sosaited> Yeah the new user I am trying to get migrated to Linux also liked KDE better (Though I showed him openSUSE),  but being a Ubuntu fan I am going to set up Kubuntu
[11:30] <sosaited> valorie: BTW from where can I disable desktop effects?  Its an old laptop (1.3Ghz Celeron M, 512MB ram) and the mouse lags and opening of windows is slow
[11:31] <valorie> in systemsettings
[11:31] <valorie> oh, older
[11:31] <valorie> it's still something close to that
[11:31] <valorie> K Menu > system something
[11:32] <valorie> but i gotta go to bed! after 3:30am here
[11:32] <maco> systemsettins
[11:32] <maco> and its just called "desktop effects" in there
[11:34] <sosaited> maco: Yeah found it
[11:35] <sosaited> But its still damn slow. I guess I should install the updates and intel 855gm GTT patch to see if that improves stuff
[11:36] <tim> valorie: according to some info on #kde, the gmail/gpg problem is caused by an buggy version of gnupg
[11:37] <sosaited> Damn it. Xapian eating cpu again
 I have this issue when I try to setup extended view external monitor on kde 4.5  my main  workspace shows up on the external monitor and not my laptop as I would like it to
[11:49] <bigbrovar> Normally the empty workspace should be the one to show up on the external monitor and not my main workspace (with all the panels and widgets)
[11:54] <maco> depends which is primary
[11:54] <maco> ie, which is coming after the --left-of or --right-of in your xrandr command
[11:56] <bigbrovar> well I am using the kde display and monitor settings
[11:56] <bigbrovar> I am not good with xrandr
[11:58] <bigbrovar> maco: how do I do this with xrandr
[11:58] <maco> first type "xrandr" to find out the displays' names
[11:58] <maco> like VGA1 or so?
[11:58] <bigbrovar> yeah
[11:59] <bigbrovar> seems the external monitor is vga1
[11:59] <bigbrovar> maco:  and my laptop is lvds1
[11:59] <maco> then xrandr --output vga1 --right-of lvds1
[11:59] <maco> or (left of if you prefer)
[12:03] <bigbrovar> got some help from the kde channel and running this command xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary --auto --output VGA1 --auto  seems to fixed the problem
[12:25] <bubuh> hi
[12:55] <wqapol> Is KDE-look.org website down for anyone?
[12:59] <tsimpson> wqapol: apparently it's been down for several hours now
[12:59] <maco> the whole network of them is down... gnome-look and the lot
[13:00] <wqapol> tsimpson: thanks because http://opendesktop.org/ is also down
[13:00] <wqapol> yes seems whole network is down
[13:07] <wqapol> Such a drastic situation that even the founder's website is down http://hive01.com
[13:28] <asraniel_> anybody knows if there is a way for me to check what the exact wireless chipset is that i use? because i try to find the windows driver of it and i thought perhaps i can find the name under linux
[13:32] <asraniel_> nevermind, found it
[14:44] <BluesKaj> HmpfCBR, sometimes if there are Windows pcs on the network one needs to edit the /etc/hosts.allow file to list the IPs of each pc on the network whether they are linux or windows
[15:02] <HmpfCBR> BluesKaj: via the properties of the folder. It should be a windows network drive, since it is listed under smb:/. There is no windows pc in the network.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> HmpfCBR, is it listed in dolphin/network?
[15:05] <HmpfCBR> in dolphin it is listed at network -> samba shares -> workgroup -> Falter (machine name) -> VIDEOS (folder name), however if I click on VIDEOS it is empty and the error message file or folder smb://falter/VIDEOS does not exist shows up
[15:10] <BluesKaj> HmpfCBR, it's not necessary to use samba shares , I use network folders and ssh for all the machines on our network ..smb is still part of the  equation but I don't specify it , I use ssh to setup network folders om my wifes vista-pc and my daughters mac as well as 2 other linuc machines ,, and have access to all
[15:10] <BluesKaj> err linux
[15:13] <HmpfCBR>  BluesKaj, I normally use ssh in conjunction with sftp kio-slave. However this requires copying of keys  and so on. That is why I want to see if I can make use of samba to share single just folders.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> HmpfCBR, user management , maybe /
[15:19] <HmpfCBR> BluesKaj: should be ok, since I granted read access to all non specified users
[15:23] <freinhard> hi!
[15:23] <freinhard> is there a *good* SIP soft phone for kde?
[15:40] <miky_> hello !!
[15:40] <gouwi> hi =)
[15:45] <getpwnam> can I copy a USB drive installation of Kubuntu directly over to another USB drive?
[15:46] <ignerious> any one know how to install ganbas 2.2.22.0 from .tar.bz2 file
[15:46] <satish__> i couldnt boot from usb drive on which i have installed ubuntu
[15:47] <ignerious> please tell
[15:48] <rork> ignerious: first extract the archive with Ark, then check for a readme
[15:49] <rork> satish__: have you set usb as the first boot option in your bios?
[15:49] <ignerious> ok. Thanks rork
[15:50] <satish__> yes , ihv formatted it as ext2 and tried to boot from it
[15:52] <rork> satish__: do you get in the kubuntu boot menu? Can you validate the iso or usb?
[15:53] <satish__> nope, i installed system onto usb from a cd
[15:56] <rork> satish__: sorry, I don't have enough experience with that process to help you further. Maybe someone else can.
[15:58] <reinaldo> helllo
[15:59] <reinaldo> news user
[16:01] <James147> satish__: what happens when you try to boot?
[16:02] <James147> getpwnam: yes you can, although you may need to edit some files depending on how you decide to do it
[16:02] <satish__> nothing comes up it continues to boot hard disc since the second priority is set to it
[16:03] <James147> satish__: have you changed the boot prioty in the bios (or, hit the key to bring up a menu to choose the boot device)?
[16:04] <satish__> does freenode.net has any downloads
[16:06] <satish__> James147: in bios
[16:07] <James147> satish__: and when you mount the drive you can see the files?
[16:08] <satish__> James147: yes
[16:08] <James147> satish__: do you know if you computer can boot from a use harddrive?
[16:10] <satish__> James147: i dont know , my pc is old so it might not be able to
[16:10] <satish__> James147: but it does boot from pen drive if its been used with unetbootlin
[16:12] <James147> satish__: some can be fussy what they boot off, and will happly boot off a usb cd, but not a harddrive, and afaik usb flash drives can be somewhere inbetween depending on whats on them
[16:13] <rork> welcome reinaldo
[16:13] <James147> satish__: if you can, I would suggest trying it on a different computer, see if it works on that if you can
[16:54] <Boire> Hey
[17:08] <dac> join #apple
[17:12] <reinaldo> obrigado
[17:27] <ignerious> can any tell me the target directory of dextop theme
[17:31] <James147> ignerious: ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme
[17:34] <ignerious> thanks
[17:48] <dany> hi all
[18:12] <Monika> My UMTS stick doesn't connect on Maverick anymore. On Lucid I used to kill knetworkmanager and start nm-applet, that was able to connect. But on Maverick knetworkmanager is not in the list of processes. What is it called now?
[18:15] <James147> Monika: maverick uses the network manager widget, should be in the panel or systray, just remove it to stop it
[18:17] <Monika> Thanks, trying that. ... Still nm-applet doesn't start, says: An instance is already running. But no nm-applet is in the list of programs (when pressing Ctrl+Esc).
[18:18] <Monika> btw how do I start netowrk manager widget again?
[18:19] <James147> Monika: add it to the panel again
[18:19] <James147> Monika: the same way you add any widget
[18:20] <Monika> ah ok, did that ... but now it's larger than before and not part of the systray
[18:20] <Monika> but anyway, it's there
[18:20] <James147> Monika: right click on the systray > system tray settings ... to add it to the systray
[18:21] <Monika> ah there, thanks
[18:21] <dsemblano_> Monika: Or you have to move the widget, click on plasma icon and you can move it to systray
[18:21] <Monika> no, couldn't be moved to systray
[18:21] <Monika> only near t
[18:22] <Monika> so, is the networkmanager widget as bad with UMTS sticks as in 10.04 or is it now expected to work? it doesn't seem to work with my stick :'( (which works with nm-applet)
[18:22] <James147> UMTS?
[18:23] <Monika> mobile internet
[18:23] <dsemblano_> Hi to all, anyone has the same problem? I have a HP notebook (dv5-1260br), when I'm using headphone (sound is fine), then I unplug, hear the sound from notebook speakers and then plug again and no sound is heard from headphone.  Only works if I restart the system.
[18:24] <Monika> you know what I mean, James147?
[18:25] <James147> Monika: yeah, not sure how well the network widget behaves with them though,
[18:25] <James147> Monika: although it should be able to as far as I know...
[18:27] <tilted_mind> Anyone have an issue where sometimes an outline to a box shows up on the screen?
[18:28] <tilted_mind> It looks like the folder view widget, but only the outline and much larger.
[18:34] <saeia> Hey guys im having problems with my dual screens..
[18:35] <dsemblano> saeia: What kind of problems?
[18:35] <saeia> All it will do is twinview
[18:35] <James147> saeia: and what graphics card?
[18:35] <saeia> 8800GT
[18:36] <saeia> Someone else was helping me last night.. and the driver i have now isnt correctly identifying my second display..
[18:36] <saeia> But its still the same problem..
[18:36] <James147> saeia: kde isnt yet designed to work with seperate screens as far as I know... to twinview is the only way you can really do it atm
[18:36] <saeia> I get cannot completly apply
[18:36] <saeia> OH really?
[18:37] <BajK_> how do I restore a deleted activity or re-access the content of thje widgets that were saved there?
[18:37] <James147> saeia: I think its because it requires there to be two plasma-desktop instances running and communicating with each other... which isent easy to do
[18:37] <saeia> oh..
[18:38] <James147> BajK_: Not sure that is possible i am afraid :(
[18:38] <saeia> so thats why i cant save to configuation file?
[18:38] <James147> BajK_: although, you might be intrested to know that activity managment is getting better with the comming releases
[18:39] <BajK_> great. really great feature.
[18:39] <BajK_> i have 4.6 running
[18:39] <BajK_> and it is still the worst thing i ever encounterd
[18:39] <BajK_> you never know which activity you are looking at and it always spits out random new ones and suddenly you find yourself in another acitivty and delete it and BAM all your widgets you thought were in the only acitivty named by yourself (instead of "untitled")
[18:39] <BajK_> are gone
[18:40] <Monika> saeia what kind of setting are you trying to achieve?
[18:40] <BajK_> I always thought it was not a good idea using the notes plasmoids for storing some information but I never wanted to realize that this is such a broken piece of...
[18:40] <BajK_> and restoring old config files (from june 2010) doesnt help either
[18:40] <BajK_> since the activity does not pop up
[18:40] <James147> BajK_: 4.6 is still in development... you cant expect it to be stable yet.... and I havnt encountered those problems with 4.6... from what I have seen of it its allot better
[18:40] <saeia> I guess its called sperate x screen
[18:40] <James147> saeia: what is wrong with twinview?
[18:41] <Monika> So you prefer it when you are not able to move a window from one screen to another?
[18:41] <BajK_> and who thought it was a good idea saving those properties instantly?
[18:41] <Monika> Or what is the reason for not using Twinview?
[18:41] <BajK_> whenever something is and you reset your computer, the configs are unsaved and all your changes are gone. BUT THIS TIME IT WAS SAVED INSTANTLY
[18:41] <saeia> herrrr.... i want it to work like windows! :B
[18:41] <saeia> thats all i can say ._.
[18:42] <Monika> uh
[18:42] <Monika> how is it on Windows differently?
[18:42] <saeia> I dont like how it pops up  on the both moniters when i expand
[18:42] <Monika> hm, I have a Geforce and it does not cover both windows when I maximize
[18:42] <saeia> Oh should it not be doing that?
[18:42] <saeia> o.o
[18:42] <James147> saeia: ... it dosent here, check the settings in system settings > display > multiple monitors
[18:43] <Monika> do you have the binary driver installed?
[18:43] <saeia> It says i dont have the requirements for it or some crap but the nvidia settings show both of them
[18:43] <saeia> Sorry im a complety noob to linux ._.
[18:44] <BajK_> James147: where are the contents of a widget stored? like the content of a note?
[18:44] <saeia> When i used twinview from the ninvidia settings it made both moniters like one big display
[18:44] <dsemblano> saeia: Have you tried the display application? System Settings - Hardware - Display and Monitors, and you can set the position
[18:44] <saeia> connected the task bar went accross in everything
[18:44] <James147> BajK_: from what I remember in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
[18:45] <James147> saeia: tahts the idea of twinview, but kde is able to split the desktop into two virtual desktops again...
[18:45] <BajK_> restoring this file doesnt help either.
[18:45] <BajK_> doesn't nepomuk or so provide a ... time thingie view?
[18:45] <James147> BajK_: if you repolace the config files you should do it when plasma-desktop isnet running
[18:45] <BajK_> i did. but it does only incompletely restore the config
[18:46] <BajK_> widgets
[18:46] <BajK_> on only one screen
[18:46] <James147> also, its best to store important notes in somehting like basket
[18:46] <BajK_> nope!
[18:46] <saeia> dsemblano:  if i enable twinview i can modify in that window?
[18:46] <saeia> Because it just says i dont have it
[18:46] <James147> saeia: to use the multiple monitors config, you need to enable twinview first
[18:47] <dsemblano> saeia: You mean, modify on Display ? I think so
[18:47] <saeia> Now im getting a failed to set meta mode error
[18:49] <saeia> well im just going to go back to driver 174 and try waht you guys said..
[18:49] <saeia> another guy had me tring to get beta repositorys..
[18:49] <BajK_> James147: why should I even THINK of saving my texts to a different location than a note widget?
[18:50] <ignerious> my plymouth manager is encountering an error. Please help!!!!!
[18:51] <BajK_> okay, fuck stupid plasma desktop. I thought after two years of develeopment it may get mature to some point but it seems it is more important spending time for stupid animations nobody ever needs like stupid scrolling or such shit than just MAKING IT WORK. I never liked GNome but at least it WORKS and does not store CRUCIAL data in ONE SINGLE FILE
[18:51] <saeia> Is there any problems with using nvidia 176?
[18:52] <saeia> wat..
[18:53] <saeia> he mad i guess..
[18:54] <saeia> so theres no way to split the screens and jsut allow it to drag windows over like in windows?
[18:58] <saeia> whats he s oupset about anyway?
[18:59] <James147> saeia: seperate screens with xinerama, but as far as I know xinerama is depricated... with nvidia twinview is the best option.... not sure why kde isent spliting the screen back up though
[19:00] <saeia> xinerama?
[19:00] <James147> saeia: it lets windows be draged from one screen to another in seperate screns mode... but isnt being developted any more
[19:01] <James147> and last time i tried it made the computer lag horrfically
[19:01] <saeia> why did they kill it? o_O
[19:01] <saeia> oh.. because no one uses crts anymore.. and lcds can sm sandwitched together i guess
[19:01] <saeia> im running two crts btw.. lol
[19:02] <ignerious> my plymouth manager is encountering an error. Please help!!!!!
[19:04] <saeia> so is just really the best its going to get James147?
[19:05] <saeia> the KDE window is still saying its one moniter at 3200x1280 >_>
[19:05] <James147> saeia: dont know... never had any problems with kde and twinview before
[19:05] <James147> saeia: mine says that as well... (well for my res... but still) but kde treats each half as a seperate screen
[19:06] <James147> (maximising to one screen for example)
[19:06] <saeia> james do you know what driver you are using?
[19:06]  * James147 blames nvidia for comming up with twinview in the first place
[19:06] <James147> 185 I think... one sec
[19:07] <James147> 260.19.06 :s
[19:07] <James147> i was way off
[19:07] <saeia> or are they still called drivers or no >.>;
[19:07] <saeia> they are called repos?
[19:07] <saeia> how do i get that one? o_o;
[19:07] <saeia> i got 176
[19:08] <James147> what version of kubuntu are you running?
[19:08] <saeia> 10.04 i think
[19:09] <James147> saeia: hmm, try using jockey-kde (hardware drivers) and activate the "current" nvidia driver... or installing "nvidia-current"
[19:10] <saeia> the "current" driver dosnt correctly identify my second display and nothing wokrs on twin view
[19:10] <James147> :(
[19:10] <saeia> whats jocky-kde? x.x
[19:10] <James147> saeia: a tool for installing/activating drivers... but it wont really do and thing spical beyond installing the drivers as far as i know
[19:11] <James147> saeia: you could try it that way, though it shouldnt hurt
[19:11] <ignerious> Why dont you upgrade to 10.10 saeia. Its great
[19:12] <saeia> herp how do i do that
[19:12] <saeia> do i have to install a whole new os or can just upgrade?
[19:12] <James147> saeia: kpackagekit should tell you (you might need to configure it to look for "normal" releases rather then LTS ones) or try running "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[19:13] <saeia> ok
[19:13] <Monika> I got to connect with umtsmon now
[19:13] <ignerious> you can upgrade without format but I recomend you format and fresh install 10.10
[19:14]  * James147 notes that you dont need to formate to reinstall... and not doing so will keep /home intact
[19:15] <ignerious> hey can any one help me about plymouth manager error
[19:18] <susundberg> hey, when i mark a bug (reported by me) to be duplicate, should i change it status also?
[19:19] <saeia> so you think it might solve my problem ignerious
[19:20] <ignerious> yes
[19:20] <ignerious> i think so
[19:21] <ignerious> do you about plymouth manager
[19:21] <saeia> but meerkats scare the fuck out of me >.>
[19:21] <ignerious> saeia
[19:21] <saeia> <.<
[19:21] <saeia> I dont know what that is lol
[19:27] <darthanubis> #language
[19:31] <Snowhog> !language
[19:40] <mbnoimi> Why kubuntu doesn't include restricted codecs in all distros
[19:40] <mbnoimi> while Mint does!
[19:40] <Snowhog> mbnoimi: Different philosphies.
[19:40] <saeia> no sound from chrome?
[19:41] <saeia> or konkour?
[19:43] <mbnoimi> is there open source codecs for playing mp3 for including htem in kubuntu distros
[19:44] <fdg> is kubuntu a kubuntu or is kubuntu a ubuntu with kde ?
[19:44] <Snowhog> mbnoimi: medibuntu repository. Kubuntu does not include restricted codecs. You have to install them yourself.
[19:44] <Monika> mbnoimi install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:44] <Monika> this provides mp3-support
[19:44] <Monika> also support for more video codecs
[19:44] <Monika> Java
[19:44] <Monika> Flash
[19:44] <Snowhog> fdg: All the *buntues utilize the same kernels. It's the DE that differs.
[19:45] <fdg> you mean desktop ?
[19:45] <Snowhog> fdg: Yes.
[19:45] <James147> fdg: ^^ as well as the same repos... so share the same available programs
[19:45] <fdg> and how does it differ from mint ? also by de ?
[19:45] <James147> fdg: you can, for example, install kde on ubuntu or gnome on kubuntu
[19:45] <fdg> so basically kubuntu is ubuntu
[19:46] <Snowhog> fdg: Mint and *buntu are different distros, with different philosophies.
[19:46] <Monika> Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu are all one and the same distribution
[19:46] <saeia> i like your name Snowhog
[19:46] <fdg> ok i get it
[19:46] <Monika> all the (...)ubuntus are fully binary compatible and share the same repositories
[19:46] <saeia> Whats diffrent about lubuntu?
[19:46] <Monika> different desktop
[19:46] <Monika> lxde
[19:46] <James147> fdg: apart from running a different de and having different initally installed software  ubuntu and kubuntu are teh same
[19:46] <Monika> uses even less resources than Xfce
[19:47] <saeia> so its light does it work better then kde?
[19:47] <fdg> i don't know if I should switch to mint because kubuntu has alot of problems on my computer, newer versions have real problem with sound and network
[19:47] <saeia> KDE seems to be more about looking pretty then fixing things.. no offence..
[19:47] <James147> saeia: that would depend on your deffiniion of "better"
[19:47] <Monika> it is light, it has less functionality than KDE
[19:47] <fdg> i dont get how can you judge kde while the system is basically the same as ubuntu
[19:48] <Monika> if you just want something light, try Xfce
[19:48] <fdg> the difference is that you can modify your desktop the way you want and need
[19:48] <Monika> lxde is really if you have veeery old computers
[19:48] <saeia> im sorry im a complete noob
[19:48] <saeia> I know i REALLLY hate gnome
[19:48] <saeia> the first time i tried linux was before suse became opensuse
[19:48] <fdg> i dont like it too
[19:48] <saeia> and it had old kde and i really liked it
[19:48] <fdg> seems totally rigid and prehistoric on many ways
[19:49] <fdg> but kde for example likes to crash once in a while
[19:49] <Monika> haven't had KDE crash
[19:49] <fdg> and restart de, just the same as windows explorer does
[19:49] <fdg> depends how much you play with its functions
[19:49] <fdg> OR it may be just me and my computer
[19:50] <dayhawk> anyone herre run sandbox??
[19:50] <fdg> thou I heard other opinions that kde is unstable
[19:50] <saeia> i've had some crashes and i've been running kde for less then a 2 days..
[19:50] <saeia> but those were just programs
[19:51] <James147> fdg: you cant really say that with out a version number... kde 4.0 was really unstable, but the later version are much much more stable
[19:51] <fdg> probably
[19:51] <saeia> anyone use suse before it became open suse?
[19:51] <fdg> my distro that works is the one with the end .21 while I have later .22 and ,25 versions and none of them work
[19:51] <James147> kde 4.X makes huge improvments each version, espically when compaired with other de
[19:52] <fdg> probably because i have a big mess on my computer and installed kubuntus one on another
[19:52] <saeia> alright.. i guess im going to try 10.10
[19:54] <saeia> well that failed
[19:56] <saeia_> what
[19:56] <saeia> :|
[19:56] <saeia> dunno why that happened
[19:57] <fdg> maybe kde does but kubuntu annoyed me with new 10.10 and even 10.04
[19:57] <fdg> I don't know why the hell 10.10 as a standard doesn't have a valid network manager working
[19:57] <maco> huh?
[19:58] <fdg> it doesn't show me network manager
[19:58] <fdg> in livecd
[19:58] <fdg> i can't connect to network
[19:58] <maco> should be plasma widget networkmanager
[19:58] <fdg> neither I can play any sound
[19:58] <maco> in the systray maybe?
[19:58] <fdg> i cant find it in the lower bar
[19:59] <fdg> don't remember that it even was in the menu
[19:59] <maco> is there a triangle on the systray?
[19:59] <maco> it should pop out a list of more plasmoids
[19:59] <fdg> no there wasn't
[19:59] <fdg> of course it should
[19:59] <maco> and no it wouldnt be in the menu since its not a separate program
[19:59] <fdg> but it didn't
[20:00] <fdg> that makes it even bigger problem
[20:00] <maco> right click the tray then
[20:00] <fdg> i havent got it in the tray
[20:00] <fdg> then
[20:00] <maco> in the system tray settings, in "display" is "network management" checked?
[20:01] <fdg> I'm not running livecd now
[20:01] <maco> oh well then i cant help you
[20:01] <fdg> no no, but help me with this
[20:01] <fdg> every time my kubuntu goes to sleep mode when it gets back it has unmanaged network
[20:02] <fdg> and each time I have to switch it back on manually
[20:02] <fdg> whats the problem with it, and why did it work in 9.10 and didn't work in 10.04  ?
[20:02] <maco> dont know
[20:02] <fdg> lol thats my point
[20:03] <fdg> kubuntu is a cool system but pretty faulty since 9.10
[20:03] <fdg> at least on my computer
[20:03] <marcos> guys
[20:04] <marcosroriz> hi guys
[20:04] <fdg> 9.10 was the only version of kubuntu that was fautless
[20:04] <marcosroriz> is there a way to get the old icons of kde on the tray ? ( I hate the monochrome ones...)
[20:04] <fdg> faultless
[20:04] <maco> that is highly variable person to person...depends what hardware you have, features you need, etc.
[20:04] <fdg> i use amilo pa 3559
[20:05] <fdg> i guess
[20:05] <maco> from others i hear that kubuntu /finally/ stopped being *expletive here*-y recently
[20:09] <fdg> marcosroriz i guess that you need to install new theme or just switch them in the appearance but im not sure
[20:18] <maco> is there a way to tell choqok to only download like...50... posts instead of freaking *200* when it starts up?
[20:18] <maco> it crashes immediately
[20:39] <saeia> unetbootin keeps saying that my flashdrive isnt mounted..
[20:40] <James147> is it mounted?
[20:40] <saeia> well it comes up in dolphin
[20:41] <James147> saeia: dosent mean its mounted, open it in dolphin to mount it
[20:41] <saeia> Oh ok.
[20:41] <saeia> should i try xubuntu or just get 10.10..
[20:42] <saeia> im kinda warey of more graphical stuff that dosnt need t obe there..
[20:42] <saeia> and that guy rage quitting about it kinda alarms me too
[20:42] <Snowhog> saeia: Are you able to use a LiveCD?
[20:42] <James147> saeia: think he did that because he lost some stuff he stored in knotes
[20:43] <saeia> I dont have any blank cds.
[20:43] <Monika> do you have an USB-stick?
[20:43] <Monika> empty one
[20:43] <Snowhog> saeia: But does your PC have a CD/DVD device?
[20:43] <Monika> then create a Live-USB stic
[20:43] <saeia> Yeah thats what i been using but every time i dont use unetbootin and sometimes when i do
[20:43] <saeia> i just get a isolinux boot:
[20:45] <saeia> i have a 4gig drive that i've been using
[20:45] <Snowhog> saeia: Does you PC have a CD/DVD drive?
[20:45] <saeia> Yeah.. but i dont have any blank cds..
[20:46] <Snowhog> saeia: Not a problem. You can order - for free- a LiveCD from https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[20:46] <saeia> that would take months though.. lol
[20:46] <Snowhog> saeia: No, about a week or two.
[20:47] <saeia> why is using a flashdrive out of the question o.O
[20:47] <James147> saeia: if your already on a *ubuntu system then you can also use usb-creator[-kde] to creat live usbs
[20:47] <Snowhog> saeia: At least, that's what it took when I order from there.
[20:47] <saeia> i've tried gentoo/debian/fedora with it alreaty
[20:47] <saeia> gentoo... is.. scary...
[20:48] <James147> saeia: yeah, its aimed at advanced users :)
[20:48] <saeia> install gentoo they said..
[20:48]  * saeia shakes
[20:49] <saeia> its the best they said..
[20:49] <James147> saeia: try arch :) .. you learn one hell of alot about linux tryin to install that beast :D
[20:49] <saeia> Every time i tried with unetbootin i just get a boot:
[20:49] <saeia> Am i doing it wrong?
[20:50] <saeia> I've been intrested in it..
[20:50] <saeia> Atleast with gentoo and unetbootin i got ot some kind of linux prompt
[20:50] <James147> saeia: hmm, not sure, what happens if you use usb-creator ... also dose the iso pass the md5 sum?
[20:51] <saeia> idk i just did arch linux on unetbootin lol
[20:51] <saeia> and i forgot about md5 checksums
[20:59] <saeia> Uhhh,,
[21:00] <saeia> ok i tried downloading the torret and the iso twice for arch linux.. and its still not ocming up in my downloads folder and thats where its pointed too..
[21:01] <ner0x> Any reason Thunderbird doesn't install lightning? Anyone else get this error?
[21:05] <fdg> does anyone know some good software developer chat rooms ?
[21:05] <bulldog98-konver> fdg: #qt
[21:06] <bulldog98-konver> or #kde
[21:06] <Monika> #kubuntu-devel #kde-devel
[21:08] <fdg> thanks, can i ask java, android etc questions there ?
[21:10] <Monika> no
[21:10] <Monika> go to #java
[21:44] <saeia> how do you check a md5 checkum?
[21:44] <velocirachael> testing
[21:45] <Mamarok> saeia: type md5sum followed by the so file name, then hit the enter key
[21:47] <TheAxolotl> !list
[21:49] <saeia> Mamarok: md5sum /home/downloads/file.iso?
[21:50] <Monika> more like md5um ~/downloads/file.iso
[21:50] <Monika> or /home/username/downloads/file.iso
[21:50] <Monika> or you cd into the directory (e.g. cd downloads) and then just do md5sum file.iso
[21:51] <saeia> capitals are annoying...
[21:53] <Monika> like Washington D.C.? ;)
[21:54] <saeia> mm..
[21:54] <saeia> dunno if yours mocking me or not lol
[21:55] <Monika> I am making a light-hearted joke and not mocking you.
[21:55] <saeia> you are evil i hate you! ;~;
[21:55] <saeia> <3
[21:55] <Monika> totally evil
[21:55] <Monika> have you managed to check hte md5sum?
[21:56] <saeia> why the hell am i install archlinux anyway
[21:56] <saeia> i know nothing about linux
[21:56] <saeia> i just must hate myslef
[21:57] <Monika> well, Archlinux might not be the best distro to start with if you know nothing of Linux, yet
[21:57] <Monika> you can still give it a try later once you have a bit of experience
[22:06] <apachelogger> saeia: the thrill of advanture?
[22:07]  * apachelogger once installed windows
[22:08] <Monika> apachelogger: o.o
[22:09] <Monika> You know no fear!
[22:09] <apachelogger> I know, I am wicked
[22:11] <andrewh192> hey is there a more simplier audio program like amarok
[22:11] <andrewh192> that might be a little less strenious on my memory
[22:12] <andrewh192> i am running on an old laptop
[22:12] <andrewh192> and tryin to keep everything as simple as i can to keep it running as best i can
[22:32] <apachelogger> andrewh192: vlc
[22:38] <BloodyRain2k> can someone help me with installing glib 2.0 gthread 2.0 and gobject 2.0? I don't have internet on my linux pc so I need them as deb packages or similar
[22:39] <Monika> BloodyRain2k if you use Synaptic, you can use that on the off-line Linux PC and from the menu select to export the list of requested packages
[22:39] <Monika> take that to another PC, could even be Windows I think
[22:39] <Monika> download them there
[22:39] <Monika> take them back, install them with Synaptic
[22:42] <BloodyRain2k> sounds like a better why than try and erroring through the packages like i did before. If it's not preinstalled in kubuntu I'd need to get that first and learn how to do said things.
[22:43] <Monika> oh, that could be somewhat hard
[22:43] <Monika> can you not get your Linux PC on the internet temporarily?
[22:44] <BloodyRain2k> if i could i wouldn't have the problem ^^ my network manager is wrecked and wont connect anymore and trying to reinstall it made me already download 20 packages one after another from here just to USB stick them over there
[22:45] <Monika> how about reinstalling the system?
[22:45] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: here is a wicked idea... muon-downloader ... create a list of packages on your kubuntu, get the muon-downloader and have it create a tar of all necessary packages from any system with intarwebs access
[22:45] <Monika> if you have a separate home partition it's fast and easy
[22:45] <Monika> if not, get an external hard drive, copy the home partition there, reinstall, copy back
[22:45] <Monika> this time use separate /home
[22:45] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: thanks to Qt neverminding the operating system, dep resolution can happen on the kubuntu system, so the downloader really just needs urls it can fetch the stuff from
[22:46] <BloodyRain2k> Monika: not really in the mood to reinstall it, I'd love it if I could just get a network manager gnome 082 pack with all deps and just install it *sigh*
[22:46] <Monika> but reinstalling is so fast
[22:46] <Monika> like 30 minutes actual installation
[22:47] <Monika> 90 minutes installing packages and config
[22:47] <Monika> done
[22:52] <BloodyRain2k> I think I now need to reinstall it anyways, i installed to many things without knowing anything and now my package manager is wrecked too Oo does Kubuntu have some repair function? XD
[22:57] <apachelogger> BloodyRain2k: yeah, we call it usb-creator, it impelements the reinstall paradigm :P
[22:57] <apachelogger> very powerful tool
[22:59] <BloodyRain2k> out of curiousity, what does apt-get -f install?
[23:02] <apachelogger> BloodyRain2k: try to fix a broken dendency tree
[23:02] <apachelogger> it essentially will try to add/remove the smallest amount of packages to bring the lot of packages back into consistent dependency state
[23:03] <apachelogger> (usually not a very useful command, unless an upgrade or similar died midway through in which case the dependencies could be in a broken state)
[23:06] <BloodyRain2k> or a person without knowledge slaps one package after another into the system without knowing what it will cause, either it fixed some things I broke or broke even more, I'll see in a few minutes
[23:09] <apachelogger> BloodyRain2k: depends on how you slapped it into it
[23:09] <apachelogger> if you did it by apt-get you would not get into a state of inconsitency
[23:09] <apachelogger> since apt simply refuses to execute actions that violate the dependencies
[23:11] <BloodyRain2k> I should just have stolen my towers lan cable before, would have spared my poor kubuntu and me some pain
[23:11] <BloodyRain2k> and how i slapped it: downloading deb files and install them with dpkg -i :o
[23:12] <apachelogger> oh
[23:12] <apachelogger> that would do for inconsistency then ;)
[23:12] <saeia> why dont my brouseres have sound when i try and use them?
[23:12]  * apachelogger goes talking to people to solve the undelrying issue here
[23:12] <apachelogger> saeia: what browser do you use?
[23:13] <saeia> chrome and its the same on konkorer
[23:13] <BloodyRain2k> one thing I was wondering for some time now, what do the Recovery Mode versions do that you can select in grub?
[23:14] <apachelogger> saeia: I suppose you mean in flash movies etc.?
[23:14] <saeia> yeah
[23:14] <apachelogger> BloodyRain2k: drops you to a root shell and IIRC provides some basic options for fixing
[23:15] <apachelogger> like say nuke your X config
[23:15] <apachelogger> saeia: what other applications are running?
[23:16] <saeia> i unno
[23:16] <saeia> kopete
[23:16] <saeia> nothing involving sound
[23:16] <saeia> rebooted a few times with diffrent apps running
[23:16] <saeia> same thing
[23:17] <Monika> does sound work with other things than browsers?
[23:17] <saeia> i think system sounds work
[23:17] <Monika> have you heard anything?
[23:17] <Monika> like, a music file
[23:17] <saeia> i dont know if i have any
[23:18] <Monika> there is an ogg file or something
[23:18] <Monika> in the sample folder
[23:18] <apachelogger> you get one with amarok actually
[23:18] <apachelogger> it will be in the playlist at first start
[23:18] <saeia> sample?
[23:18]  * apachelogger actually invented that feature years ago ^^
[23:20] <saeia> where?
[23:22] <BloodyRain2k> I think I need a guide how to reinstall kubuntu to fix things but not replace or remove existing software, simple said a repair install but not a system nuking >_<
[23:24] <xevil> BloodyRain2k: use a text package manager like aptitude to sort out your broken dependencies
[23:24] <saeia> wheres the smaple folder?
[23:26] <BloodyRain2k> xevil: my current problem is that I can't even get into my system anymore, my kubuntu loading screen turned purple and text only it seems, showing Ubuntu 10.04 and 4 dots that change between white and red, I guess I have to give the recovery mode a try. I think I did something like del system32 to my linux lol
[23:27] <xevil> can't even get to a terminal?
[23:28] <xevil> BloodyRain2k: it may be easier to reinstall...
[23:31] <BloodyRain2k> one try with recovery mode now and if that fails to rescue it ill nuke it ;_;
[23:33] <xevil> BloodyRain2k: good luck
[23:37] <BloodyRain2k> grml, gotta burn a new kubuntu disc first, recovery mode doesnt like my anymore too: Archivement Unlocked - Destroyed KUbuntu ;_;
[23:38] <BloodyRain2k> mhm, I got a 64bit AMD on my pc where I wanna install it, should i then get the 64bit version?
[23:40] <Monika> BloodyRain2k you have the choice of amd64 (= 64-bit on all AMD and almost all Intel processors) or i386 (= 32-bit on all AMD and Intel processors)
[23:40] <yofel> personal preference, unless you have >3GiB of RAM I would recommend the 32bit version though
[23:40] <Monika> If you have more than 4 GB RAM, you must use the amd64
[23:41] <yofel> Monika: not really, you can use 32bit PAE kernel, not sure how much that helps, but you can use >4GiB of memory on 32bit with that
[23:41] <BloodyRain2k> got exactly 3 gb ram so I'd get the amd64 version?
[23:41] <Monika> I'd say if you have 1 GB or more, go with amd64
[23:41] <yofel> BloodyRain2k: then it's your choice, I use 64bit fine here
[23:41] <Monika> there is not really any reason not to use amd64 (anymore)
[23:41] <Monika> in the early time two years ago stuff like Flash didn't use to work
[23:41] <Monika> but now everything is fine
[23:41] <BloodyRain2k> ugh I think I'll do it like with linux, screw 64bit oô better save with 32
[23:41] <Monika> have been using amd64 for ... don't know, 1.5 years or so
[23:41] <Monika> no no
[23:42] <Monika> go for 64bit
[23:42] <Monika> it's fine
[23:42] <Monika> totally
[23:42] <Monika> just don't expect any big boost from it ... unless you do video works or something like this