[00:10] <thewrath> hey all!
[00:55] <reaper_> My Internet download speed is slower then what it is in Win, any ideas on how to change this?
[01:07] <reaper_> or how do i check to see what is using my internet to slow it down
[01:10] <holstein> reaper_: how are you determining its slower?
[01:11] <reaper_> it runnings in win7 at 80kbps on here its 50kbps
[01:11] <holstein> right
[01:11] <holstein> where are those #'s coming from?
[01:12] <reaper_> the 80kbps is what my internet downloads at and the 50kbps is what im watching it run at
[01:13] <holstein> i guess what im getting at is
[01:13] <holstein> what is reporting those figures to you?
[01:13] <reaper_> well my web browser and terminal
[01:15] <holstein> so, a speed test?
[01:15] <holstein> in the browser
[01:16] <holstein> the same test on both OS's?
[01:16] <holstein> i suppose if its wifi
[01:16] <holstein> it could be a wifi driver issue
[01:16] <reaper_> the speed i got when i got my internet installed
[01:16] <reaper_> yes
[01:16] <reaper_> need had problem until 10.10
[01:17] <holstein> check and see what driver you had before
[01:17] <holstein> is it a broadcom chip?
[01:17] <reaper_> yeah think so
[01:17] <reaper_> and my internet runs on different wired or wireless
[01:18] <holstein> wired *should be faster
[01:18] <holstein> i would expect that
[01:18] <holstein> with G
[01:18] <reaper_> its not runs the same I checked
[01:26] <reaper_> this one speed test says its at 600kbps
[01:32] <reaper_> when I use the update manager it downloads like it should but if I download from my browser or terminal it doesnt download like it should
[01:35] <holstein> i would say, sleep on it
[01:35] <holstein> and test some more later
[01:35] <reaper_> yeah I have been at this for days
[01:35] <holstein> maybe set up some local tests on your LAN
[01:35] <holstein> that you can trust %100
[01:36] <reaper_> unless it has nothing to do with my internet it the server that im downloading from
[01:36] <holstein> yeah, setting up something locally will reduce the variables
[01:37] <reaper_> that has to be what it is
[01:37] <reaper_> because the update manager is downloading at what it should be
[01:40] <holstein> i wouldnt lose slee over it
[01:40] <holstein> sleep*
[01:41] <reaper_> im not going to it is what it is
[01:41] <holstein> :)
[02:54] <jacky12345> im looking at creating an ISO from my bootable windows C:, and i believe the only proper way to go about this is to get a live CD going with an ISO creator utility. is this possible?
[02:55] <aveilleux> jacky12345: You mean making a Windows LiveCD?
[02:56] <jacky12345> Well, i want to move my existing Windows machine to a virtual server. My virtual server software: VMWhere will open an ISO to create my virtual machine...
[02:58] <jacky12345> I don't know of any windows ISO creating utilities that create ISO from the C: so it looks as if I might have to use a nix live CD with an 'ISO creation' utility.
[02:58] <nit-wit> jacky12345, different drivers all kinds of stuff Its been done but not beginners work
[02:59] <jacky12345> That way, my windows OS isn't running therefore there will be no 'open files' so i can, in theory, create an ISO from my C: and save it to my D:
[03:00] <aveilleux> jacky12345: The way Windows is designed makes it very hard to create LiveCDs from it.
[03:01] <jacky12345> but surely i can boot from my dvd drive with ubunto, and run a ISO creation program..no?
[03:01] <jacky12345> ...or am i dreaming?
[03:02] <Cheri703> I've never heard of that being possible
[03:02] <Cheri703> maybe with some sort of ghosting software? but...not to make an iso from an existing installation
[03:02] <jacky12345> oh
[03:04] <nit-wit> jacky12345, I have seen on the web where everything is true of course people claiming to have moved the MS to a virtual, different manner then a ISO though I believe.
[03:05] <holstein> yeah, clonezilla or similar
[03:05] <jacky12345> clonezilla eh?
[03:05] <holstein> still, getting xp to be 'happy' after the move
[03:05] <holstein> thats going to be the trick
[03:06] <jacky12345> holstein, so much for MS 'virtual' concept/definition eh?
[03:06] <holstein> its not like linux where most drivers are in the kernel
[03:06] <holstein> and you can just jump ship anytime you want
[03:06] <holstein> you might be able to clone the install
[03:06] <Cheri703_> jacky12345: you can install a fresh windows setup in a vm
[03:06] <nit-wit> holstein, that would be the best guess,  have tried it my W7 setup to Vbox couldn't get it to work.
[03:06] <Cheri703_> but not take your existing
[03:06] <holstein> move it and run some restoritive install
[03:07] <jacky12345> oh wow - i thougt that this was a somewhat 'common' thing to do and that there would be some type of software, but this looks like a major damn project
[03:07] <holstein> where your data *should still be in place
[03:07] <holstein> jacky12345: with linux, its easier
[03:07] <holstein> i think , unless you have a whole bunch of custimization going on
[03:07] <holstein> just do the fresh install
[03:07] <holstein> in whatever vitrualization your going to be using
[03:08] <holstein> then you can easily move that install to another machine running the same vitrualization environment
[03:08] <holstein> anytime you want
[03:08] <Cheri703_> ubuntu is SUUUUPER easy
[03:08] <Cheri703_> for moving things around
[04:18] <Chilldy> Hello?
[04:18] <Chilldy> First of all I'm using a VPS and using tightvnc on it for the game Minecraft.I was told to use this command for an update. It took about an hour. After it was done I restarted and now I can't start my VNC server. -Using a VPS btw. Normally on a fresh boot it uses around 15mb of ram a little less now it's stuck at 2mb - 4mb. When I try to start the VNC it goes to about 9mb which is supposed to go around 350 to 400mb.
[04:19] <Chilldy> Here is the command I used
[04:19] <Chilldy> apt-get install python-software-properties -y; cd /etc/apt; rm sources.list; wgethttps://allgamer.net/files/sources.list; gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key C90F9CB90E1FAD0C && gpg --export --armor C90F9CB90E1FAD0C | sudo apt-key add -; apt-get update -y; apt-get install zip screen htop -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get install libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-system-runtime2.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-windowsbas
[04:19] <Chilldy> After that update I noticed the desktop became lower quality I thought it was normal so I restarted the server and now I'm having that problem
[04:24] <jackoriper> hi
[04:28] <jackoriper> cable internet ( ethernet plug ) is directly connected to laptap for internet, how to setup or do settings , so that internet to work on ubuntu 10 ? ( local  internet  provider is fan to XP only ), but im ubuntu in our region.
[04:29] <Cheri703> jackoriper: please ask your question in one channel at a time
[04:29] <holstein> jackoriper: you have access to a router?
[04:33] <jackoriper> holstein: no, local service provider has just provided a cable into our house.
[04:33] <holstein> well, an easy way to deal with that, assuming you want to run more than one computer is to get a router
[04:34] <holstein> im trying to find the info you would need...
[04:34] <holstein> its do-able
[04:34] <holstein> ive just always had a router
[04:35] <Chilldy> Anyone have any idea about my question earlier?
[04:36] <holstein> Chilldy: how does that game run via VNC ?
[04:36] <Chilldy> I'm running my game server through VPS and it requires a VNC so that I can remote connect from my desktop
[04:37] <holstein> AH
[04:37] <holstein> how *well* does that game run via VNC
[04:37] <holstein> ?
[04:37] <Chilldy> It runs just fine. It's been running almost 2 months flawlessly and just when I ran that big command of updates I can't load the VNC server anymore
[04:38] <holstein> where did you get that command?
[04:38] <holstein> Chilldy: are you otherwise up to date on the machine?
[04:38] <Chilldy> From the Minecraft gaming forum
[04:38] <holstein> with packages?
[04:38] <Chilldy> This is the command I used
[04:38] <Chilldy> apt-get install python-software-properties -y; cd /etc/apt; rm sources.list; wgethttps://allgamer.net/files/sources.list; gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key C90F9CB90E1FAD0C && gpg --export --armor C90F9CB90E1FAD0C | sudo apt-key add -; apt-get update -y; apt-get install zip screen htop -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get install libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-system-runtime2.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-windowsbas
[04:38] <holstein> maybe the updates are expecting you to have newer version of packages installed
[04:39] <holstein> i still would not expect that to effect the VNC connection
[04:39] <holstein> BUT it wouldnt hurt to just check for updates
[04:39] <JoeMaverickSett> !pastebin | Chilldy
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[04:39] <holstein> and read though the list
[04:39] <holstein> and see what is available
[04:39] <Chilldy> Read through what list?
[04:40] <holstein> the list of availalbe updates for your vitrual server machine
[04:40] <Chilldy> How do I do that?
[04:40] <holstein> well, i dont have a VPS
[04:40] <holstein> but i run
[04:40] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[04:40] <holstein> and
[04:40] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade *if i want the updates
[04:41] <holstein> but you might want to check with your host
[04:41] <Chilldy> Okay I will see if it does anything I remember typing those in an it didn't do anything
[04:41] <holstein> and see how they suggest you do that
[04:41] <holstein> Chilldy: is there some functionality you need in the update?
[04:41] <holstein> this might be one of those lessons - 'if it aint broke' ;)
[04:42] <holstein> i break things updating all the time though
[04:42] <Chilldy> Okay I get this
[04:42] <Chilldy> Could not resolve 'archive.canonical.com'
[04:42] <Chilldy> when I run sudo apt-get update
[04:42] <holstein> probably need to sort that out
[04:42] <Chilldy> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release.gpg
[04:42] <holstein> might want to upgrade to lucid anyways
[04:43] <holstein> the long term support
[04:43] <holstein> that might just make things worse though ;)
[04:43] <Chilldy> I don't want to lose anything on the server so I wont be reinstalling the OS
[04:44] <holstein> hehe
[04:44] <holstein> back it up
[04:44] <holstein> you never know what you'll be doing to get that game working
[04:44] <holstein> minecraft forums?
[04:44] <Chilldy> I thought linux was so much better and that I agree it's just SOOO much more complicated then windows o.O
[04:45] <holstein> http://www.minecraftforum.net/
[04:45] <holstein> well, your doing something rather complex with it
[04:45] <Chilldy> I've tried everywhere and I'm waiting from a response to those that own the server, but I don't think they know and are taking a long time to respond
[04:45] <holstein> and your mot familiar with the package manager
[04:45] <Chilldy> I've already posted ont he minecraft forum
[04:45] <holstein> i mean, to each his own, i say
[04:46] <holstein> but i think its more what ever you get used to
[04:46] <holstein> i mean, how is your windows VPS doing?
[04:46] <Chilldy> My windows vps is fine?
[04:47] <holstein> maybe you can run it on there ?
[04:47] <Chilldy> Like I said this all started right after that long line of updates and restarting
[04:47] <holstein> maybe they have better windows support?
[04:47] <Chilldy> They do, but I don't want to run a server on my computer
[04:48] <holstein> maybe try #ubuntu-server
[04:48] <holstein> its quiet in there though, you might have to wait around a bit...
[04:48] <Chilldy> It was quiet in here for a while :P
[04:48] <holstein> good luck
[04:48] <Chilldy> Thanks anyways
[04:49] <JoeMaverickSett> Chilldy: i've not much of a techie, but i think you'd have to reconnect the VNC to re-gain access.
[04:49] <JoeMaverickSett> *i'm
[04:50] <Chilldy> I did reconnect it
[04:50] <Chilldy> I sued this command
[04:50] <Chilldy> used*
[04:50] <Chilldy> tightvncserver -geometry 800x600
[04:51] <Chilldy> I use it everytime I reboot the vps
[04:51] <holstein> whats the connection like without arguments?
[04:51] <Chilldy> And I don't get an error. When I look at the ram usage normally it hits about 350mb to 450mbs but for some reasont he ram is staying at 9mb
[04:51] <Chilldy> It's as if it isn't even loading
[04:52] <Chilldy> I also noticed after I ran the long line of updates my desktop background became lower quality
[04:53] <Chilldy> So now when I restart the VPS the ram usage stays stuck at 2mb rather then 15mb it would normally be at on a reboot
[04:54] <Chilldy> I've also tried running the command startx
[04:54] <Chilldy> to no avail
[04:55] <Chilldy> I get Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)
[05:09] <Chilldy> o.O
[06:14] <Chilldy> !pastebinit
[06:14] <ubot2> pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:15] <Chilldy> Wondering if anyone here can help with a huge problem I have have running this command http://paste.ubuntu.com/545493/
[06:16] <Chilldy> I have after running*
[06:16] <CensoredBiscuit> Hold on
[06:16] <CensoredBiscuit> Thats a pretty loaded command'
[06:16] <CensoredBiscuit> any feedback?
[06:17] <Chilldy> Yeah It was supposed to do a ton of updates
[06:17] <CensoredBiscuit> Whats the problem?
[06:17] <Chilldy> As it did but it ended up I can't run my TightVNC server
[06:17] <CensoredBiscuit> any error message?
[06:18] <Chilldy> It loads fine when I type "tightvncserver -geometry 800x600"
[06:18] <Chilldy> But I noticed that the Ram usage doesn't move
[06:18] <Chilldy> After I had ran that long list of updates only real things I noticed was the desktop GUI and went to lower quality
[06:19] <Chilldy> When I restarted thats when i ran into the issue
[06:19] <Chilldy> With a full reboot of the VPS the ram used to stop at about 15mb now it's stuck at 2mb. And when I ran the VNC server it would normally hit 350mb to 450mb
[06:19] <Chilldy> Now it just gets stuck at around 9mb
[06:20] <CensoredBiscuit> Let me take a look at that command
[06:20] <Chilldy> Okay
[06:21] <CensoredBiscuit> I would also never run a huge command like this..
[06:21] <CensoredBiscuit> Its difficult to troubleshoot
[06:23] <Chilldy> I was just told it was a bunch of updates.
[06:23] <CensoredBiscuit> you were told?
[06:23] <Chilldy> Yes
[06:24] <UndiFineD> o/
[06:24] <Chilldy> I mean does the command not look like a bunch of updates?
[06:24] <CensoredBiscuit> Half of these- if not all were from funky websites.
[06:24] <CensoredBiscuit> these  programs could be anything
[06:24] <Chilldy> Is there a way to revert back?
[06:25] <CensoredBiscuit> do you have backups?\
[06:25] <hajour> CensoredBiscuit, in short what is the problem
[06:25] <Chilldy> I assumed there would be auto backups? o.O
[06:26] <UndiFineD> Chilldy, that command is so large it does not fit the pastebin
[06:26] <Chilldy> "apt-get install python-software-properties -y; cd /etc/apt; rm sources.list; wgethttps://allgamer.net/files/sources.list; gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key C90F9CB90E1FAD0C && gpg --export --armor C90F9CB90E1FAD0C | sudo apt-key add -; apt-get update -y; apt-get install zip screen htop -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get install libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-system-runtime2.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-windowsba
[06:26] <Chilldy> That's the whole commands
[06:27] <UndiFineD> well I do not know allgamer.net
[06:27] <CensoredBiscuit> now he cannot run TightVNC and the GUI looks oddd and etc.
[06:27] <UndiFineD> but I see the fault
[06:27] <Chilldy> The GUI looked of low quality after the update
[06:27] <Chilldy> then I restarted
[06:27] <Chilldy> and I can't load the vnc server
[06:28] <Chilldy> What's the fault UndifineD?
[06:29] <UndiFineD> it is with wget
[06:29] <UndiFineD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/545499/
[06:30] <Chilldy> Any idea what I should do?
[06:32] <UndiFineD> it is a weird way to get around making a ppa ....
[06:32] <UndiFineD> also ... they replace your sources.list
[06:33] <UndiFineD> so you get stuff they decided
[06:34] <UndiFineD> Chilldy, what do you want to achieve now ...
[06:35] <Chilldy> I just want to get it working again.
[06:35] <UndiFineD> so ... what is wrong atm
[06:35] <Chilldy> I have no clue where to start other then reinstalling Ubuntu
[06:35] <Chilldy> Well
[06:36] <Chilldy> With a full reboot of the VPS the ram get's stuck at 2mb's it used to go to around 15mb. When I started my VNC server it would bump up the ram to around 350 to 450mb now the ram stays at around 9mb
[06:37] <Chilldy> I run this everytime I start the VPS "tightvncserver -geometry 800x600"
[06:37] <Chilldy> And I get no errors, but it seems as if it doesn't load
[06:37] <Chilldy> And I can't connect to it
[06:38] <UndiFineD> you can connect to ssh ?
[06:39] <Chilldy> I don't know if it's SSH but I'm able to connect to the console through the VPS Control Panel
[06:39] <Chilldy> I'm still able to use the Terminal
[06:39] <UndiFineD> ok
[06:40] <UndiFineD> could you pastebin the content of the sources.list ?
[06:40] <Chilldy> How do I do that?
[06:41] <UndiFineD> copy the text from terminal and paste
[06:41] <UndiFineD> !paste
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[06:41] <hajour> UndiFineD, you  are tired and i have asked others to help Chilldy
[06:41] <UndiFineD> :)
[06:42] <hajour> good night UndiFineD :)
[06:42] <UndiFineD> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:42] <Chilldy> Your elaving?
[06:42] <Chilldy> leaving*
[06:42] <hajour> Chilldy,  there comes a other for you
[06:43] <hajour> UndiFineD,  have not yet slept and its almost 8.00 in morning here
[06:43] <hajour> ok?:)
[06:44] <Chilldy> i don't have a sources list these are it in apt folder   sources.list.save and sources.list.d
[06:44] <UndiFineD> aha
[06:44] <Chilldy> o.O
[06:46] <Chilldy> What does that mean?
[06:46] <hajour> that that explains things
[06:47] <Chilldy> Can that be fixed?
[06:47] <UndiFineD> Chilldy, run this:
[06:47] <UndiFineD> cd /etc/apt
[06:47] <UndiFineD> wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/a/sources.list
[06:48] <Chilldy> I get this error  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/a/sources.list
[06:48] <Chilldy> Resolving dl.dropbox.com... failed: Name or service not known.
[06:48] <Chilldy> wget: unable to resolve host address `dl.dropbox.com'
[06:48] <UndiFineD> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[06:49] <Chilldy> Okay I got nameserver 4.2.2.1 nameserver 4.2.2.2
[06:49] <UndiFineD> your dns seems broken
[06:50] <UndiFineD> ps aux |grep dns
[06:50] <UndiFineD> I think dnsmasq is not running
[06:50] <Chilldy> copy paste that?
[06:50] <UndiFineD> yup
[06:51] <Chilldy> root     10096  0.0  0.0   1784   548 ttyp0    S+   09:49   0:00 grep dns
[06:51] <Chilldy> That's what it came up to
[06:51] <UndiFineD> /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart
[06:52] <Chilldy> -bash: /etc/init.d/dnsmasq: No such file or directory
[06:52] <UndiFineD> ok now i am really stuck
[06:53] <UndiFineD> /etc/init.d must have some sort of dns service
[06:53] <UndiFineD> but is is not running
[06:53] <bioterror> Chilldy, hope you've fixed that line, there's "wgethttps://", add a space between wget and https
[06:53] <UndiFineD> besides dnsmasq it could be named / bind
[06:54] <uBUXUBu> i am looking into it but have no answer yet
[06:54] <UndiFineD> bioterror, he has no dns service
[06:54] <Chilldy> I cd'd to init.d and then typed "dnsmasq restart" I got dnsmasq: setting capabilities failed: Operation not permitted
[06:54] <bioterror> is he ircing from this computer
[06:54] <bioterror> or from another
[06:54] <Chilldy> bioterror there was a space between them some hoe when i copy pasted it removed a space
[06:54] <UndiFineD> some web terminal
[06:55] <Chilldy> I'm ircing on my home desktop the terminal is from a company that hosts VPS servers
[06:55] <bioterror> does that computer get ip address from dhcp? or is it static configuration
[06:56] <Chilldy> The VPS has it's own Ip
[06:56] <UndiFineD> ifconfig
[06:56] <Chilldy> Everything was working just fine for two months straight until I ran the long line of updates for the VPS
[06:56] <Chilldy> My desktop is fine the issue is with the VPS
[06:56] <bioterror> those commands should have nothing to do with dns
[06:57] <UndiFineD> I think the updates broke it
[06:57] <Chilldy> It had to lol. I'm just needing a fix :P
[06:58] <UndiFineD> does you network interface have an ip ?
[06:58] <UndiFineD> ifconfig
[06:59] <bioterror> rather I would like to know if he can ping those nameservers
[06:59] <Chilldy> ifconfig didn't do anything
[07:00]  * UndiFineD oh noes
[07:00] <bioterror> whaaat?
[07:00] <bioterror> what does "ifconfig eth0" prompt
[07:02] <Chilldy> eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[07:02] <UndiFineD> bioterror, also lo is missing
[07:03] <UndiFineD> so that is one for /etc/init.d/net????????
[07:03] <Chilldy> ?
[07:03] <bioterror> but why to stayup for a whole night
[07:03] <bioterror> huh?
[07:04] <bioterror> ohop
[07:04]  * UndiFineD points to hajour, she made me
[07:04] <Chilldy> When I run sudo apt-get update I get thisErr http://archive.canonical.com karmic Release.gpg Could not resolve 'archive.canonical.com' Reading package lists... Done W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release.gpg Could no t resolve 'archive.canonical.com'
[07:04] <UndiFineD> :P
[07:04] <bioterror> Chilldy, ofcourse you get, you dont have eth0 interface
[07:04] <bioterror> Chilldy, you dont have network at all
[07:04] <Chilldy> How does that update mess all that up?
[07:05] <bioterror> you updated kernel or something
[07:05] <UndiFineD> are these instructions given by the vps service ?
[07:05] <Chilldy> No from other help forums
[07:05] <Chilldy> They don't seem to be helping though
[07:06] <bioterror> is that update from ubuntu branch?
[07:06] <UndiFineD> bioterror, you know what i meant ?
[07:06] <CensoredBiscuit> No. Bioterror it wasn't
[07:06] <UndiFineD> he needs to try to restart his network config
[07:06] <bioterror> so he leeched kernel from some other service
[07:07] <CensoredBiscuit> hey bio
[07:07] <Chilldy> No that long list of updates was from a different forum to help run a wrapper for my game server properly
[07:07] <bioterror> or how should I say it, someone elses kernel than ubuntu
[07:07] <CensoredBiscuit> I'ma pm you kay?
[07:07] <CensoredBiscuit> bioterror
[07:08] <bioterror> CensoredBiscuit, pm about what?
[07:09] <Chilldy> So am I just out of luck on this one?
[07:09] <bioterror> nope
[07:10] <bioterror> hahahaha
[07:10] <bioterror> oh no
[07:10] <Chilldy> The question is have you guys given up? :P
[07:13] <Chilldy> brb
[07:14] <uBUXUBu> i have a tech in my channel who will try to help...pl;eae state clearly what is happening chilly
[07:14] <uBUXUBu> please*
[07:18] <Chilldy> back
[07:18] <UndiFineD> Chilldy, so you have to restart your network
[07:18] <Chilldy> Okay has your tech looked at my code that I used to update?
[07:19] <UndiFineD> but I am too tired to be of proper help
[07:19] <Chilldy> So whos taking over?
[07:19] <UndiFineD> it is in /etc/init.d/net*
[07:20] <UndiFineD> but i have several files there
[07:20] <bioterror> that badgerports is mysterious
[07:20] <bioterror> trying to investigate it
[07:20] <bioterror> but I've got no access to it's dists
[07:20] <UndiFineD> bioterror, he is missing /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:21] <UndiFineD> here is mine: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/a/sources.list
[07:21] <bioterror> well
[07:24] <Chilldy> This is so frustrating
[07:25] <uBUXUBu> may i ask..is the problem that u cannot get online? (late getting involved).
[07:25] <bioterror> uBUXUBu, seems so
[07:25] <uBUXUBu> Chilldy, is that it?
[07:26] <Chilldy> I think so. And that I have no sources.list
[07:26] <uBUXUBu> i am installing ubuntu 10.04 as we speak...if i can get a clear idea wut the prob is i will try to see if wut iam doing can help answer the question.
[07:26] <uBUXUBu> ok so u wanna know why u dont have a source list is that correct?
[07:27] <bioterror> he delled it
[07:27] <Chilldy> I'll start fromt he top again
[07:27] <Chilldy> I ran this long list of updates
[07:27] <Chilldy> "apt-get install python-software-properties -y; cd /etc/apt; rm sources.list; wgethttps://allgamer.net/files/sources.list; gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key C90F9CB90E1FAD0C && gpg --export --armor C90F9CB90E1FAD0C | sudo apt-key add -; apt-get update -y; apt-get install zip screen htop -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get install libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-system-runtime2.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-windowsba
[07:27] <Chilldy> And it took about an hour and a half
[07:28] <Chilldy> after it was done my desktop turned into a lower res
[07:28] <uBUXUBu> ok keep going...i think this happened to me
[07:28] <Chilldy> so I restarted the VPS
[07:28] <uBUXUBu> stop right there for a sec
[07:28] <uBUXUBu> remind me wut VPS is
[07:29] <Chilldy> A virtual private server
[07:29] <Chilldy> I'm using it to host my game server
[07:29] <Chilldy> through another company
[07:29] <uBUXUBu> ok im still gonna try to help but i dont know about that stuff
[07:29] <Chilldy> kinda like a dedicated server
[07:29] <uBUXUBu> listen
[07:30] <uBUXUBu> did the update fully install
[07:30] <uBUXUBu> and did u reboot when it finished
[07:30] <Chilldy> It did
[07:30] <Chilldy> Yes
[07:30] <sogepp> geez, i have tried to burn iso image into cd 3 times, and no one has the same md5 code,
[07:30] <uBUXUBu> ok then wut happened
[07:30] <uBUXUBu> cmon Chilldy keep goin
[07:31] <Chilldy> Well when I tried to run my VNC server so that I could remote connect to it from my computer at home it loaded as usual, but when I look at the ram usage it usually was at around 350mb to 450mb now it's just at 9mb
[07:31] <Chilldy> and I can't connect to it
[07:31] <bioterror> Chilldy, can you find NIC from lspci?
[07:31] <uBUXUBu> ok so the problem is u cannot connect to you remote server
[07:31] <Chilldy> When I run sudo apt-get update I get thisErr http://archive.canonical.com karmic Release.gpg Could not resolve 'archive.canonical.com' Reading package lists... Done W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release.gpg Could no t resolve 'archive.canonical.com'
[07:32] <Chilldy> I have no idea what those terms mean Bioterror
[07:32] <bioterror> Network Interface Card
[07:32] <bioterror> and lspci lists devices you have
[07:33] <bioterror> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16)
[07:33] <Chilldy> Okay... I don't know how to go about finding those
[07:33] <bioterror> something like that
[07:33] <uBUXUBu> so the problem is you cannot connect to your remote game server..is that correct?
[07:33] <bioterror> uBUXUBu, problem is that he run an update and the network is gone
[07:33] <Chilldy> I can't start my VNC server on my VPS so access the GUI
[07:33] <bioterror> uBUXUBu, he doesnt seem to have eth0 and neither lo0
[07:33] <bioterror> lo
[07:34] <uBUXUBu> so the update changed it..it was all working before??
[07:34] <uBUXUBu> Chilldy, /
[07:34] <Chilldy> Yes it was working just fine
[07:34] <uBUXUBu> ?
[07:34] <bioterror> Chilldy, confirm that lspci, please
[07:34] <uBUXUBu> ok i will check with my gamer ubuntu tech and see if he thinks he can help
[07:35] <uBUXUBu> brb
[07:35] <uBUXUBu> cos i cant
[07:35] <Chilldy> How do I confirn Lspci?
[07:35] <Chilldy> confirm*
[07:35] <bioterror> from terminal
[07:35] <Chilldy> What do I type?
[07:35] <bioterror> !lspci
[07:35] <ubot2> Factoid 'lspci' not found
[07:35] <bioterror> lspci
[07:36] <Chilldy> lspci: Cannot find any working access method.
[07:36] <bioterror> your problem lies there
[07:36] <Chilldy> How do I fix that?
[07:36] <uBUXUBu> i wonder if u can use the buntu cd repair option
[07:37] <Chilldy> I don't have access to the hardware
[07:37] <Chilldy> As it's run through a company
[07:37] <bioterror> how are you connected to it then?
[07:37] <bioterror> from serial console?
[07:37] <Chilldy> http://hazenet.co.uk/ is the company I go to
[07:37] <bioterror> I dont care about the company
[07:37] <Chilldy> yes I'm connected to it in a VPS Control Panel
[07:38] <Chilldy> that offeres a console
[07:38] <Chilldy> That is where I go to reboot, boot, or start my VNC server so that I can remote connect to it through TightVNC
[07:38] <bioterror> you can try to boot older kernel
[07:39] <Chilldy> I just don't want to have to reinstall the operating system, because I don't want to lose everything over 5 months of game server info
[07:41] <bioterror> Chilldy,  what does uname -a  prompt
[07:41] <bioterror> "uname -a"
[07:41] <bioterror> without ""
[07:43] <Chilldy> Linux 2.6.18-194.8.1.el5.028stab070.5 #1 SMP Fri Sep 17 19:10:36 MSD 2010 i686
[07:43] <Chilldy> GNU/Linux
[07:43] <uBUXUBu> what kind of game server is it?
[07:43] <Chilldy> Minecraft Server.
[07:44] <Chilldy> The OS is Ubuntu 9.10 x86 Version (32bit) With GNOME Desktop and TightVNC pre-installed
[07:46] <uBUXUBu> if u want to join my channel a tech there said he will take a shot at this problem Chilldy ...he is a gamer
[07:46] <uBUXUBu> i cant keep relaying
[07:47] <Chilldy> Okay how do I join the channel?
[07:47] <uBUXUBu> i will PM u
[07:47] <Chilldy> okay
[08:01] <bioterror> hahaha
[08:01] <bioterror> damn, where did you get that kernel
[08:01] <bioterror> that kernel is your problem
[08:02] <bioterror> it's old, and some weird build. not suited for ubuntu
[08:02] <bioterror> and I bet you dont know at all what kind of hardware is inside of it
[08:03] <bioterror> I suggest to boot and choose another kernel from GRUB
[08:04] <bioterror> if your computer has a real serial connection, you should be able to press shift on bootup and choose that real ubuntu kernel from grub list
[08:04] <bioterror> but lesson #1: do not use repositories YOU DONT KNOW
[08:04] <bioterror> lesson #2 do not take advices from just a random website if you dont know what you're doing
[08:05] <bioterror> as you dont have a physical connection to that server, you cannot boot livecd/usb and chroot and fix that problem
[08:05] <bioterror> so your only hope is really find older kernel from GRUB and boot that
[08:06] <bioterror> it should bring back your ethernet
[08:06] <bioterror> Chilldy, tbqh you're on your own from this point on
[08:07] <bioterror> ls /boot is welcome command to find out
[08:08] <bioterror> 9.10 doesnt have plymouth if I remember right, it should have GRUB 1.5 or something like that and ask to press esc on bootup
[08:08] <bioterror> to access GRUB
[08:11] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, thankz for talking to yourself :P
[08:12] <bioterror> no problem mate
[08:12] <bioterror> I had awesome guitar playing session moments ago
[08:12] <bioterror> kids played drums and I had a spaced out stonerish riff with flanger
[08:19] <uBUXUBu> maybe ill PM my guys and tell them
[08:19] <IAmNotThatGuy> uBUXUBu, :P
[09:16] <UBUxUBU> we are still goin at it with chilldy
[09:16] <UBUxUBU> in my channel sheez
[09:57] <ggeorgy> hi
[09:57] <ggeorgy>  :)
[10:04] <ggeorgy> i search a program for video trancsoding
[10:04] <ggeorgy> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[10:04] <ggeorgy> ca u help me?
[10:04] <ggeorgy> thanks
[10:11] <doez> What can I do to restore the clock and those panels to the upper right?
[10:12] <doez> I got some error saying that I needed to delete those
[10:15] <hobgoblin> doez: indicator applet session or indicator applet I would think
[10:15] <bioterror> nope
[10:15] <bioterror> those are not in the indicator
[10:15] <bioterror> add to panel, that's is
[10:16] <doez> Kay, so how do I add stuff back?
[10:17] <doez> nevermind
[10:17] <hobgoblin> clock isn;t no - but if that's not on the system it has been uninstalled as they are seperate packages I understand
[10:17] <doez> Well I just formatted the pc and I did not uninstall the clock
[10:17] <hobgoblin> doez: and what error is telling you to remove things?
[10:18] <hobgoblin> formatted ? so there's nothing on it at all then
[10:18] <doez> Well in the start there were
[10:18] <doez> then when i activated my video drivers they all went gone
[10:18] <doez> and i cant remeber the error
[10:20] <hobgoblin> activating a video driver removed the panel? not sure I'm understanding what you are talking about - perhaps a screenshot - you can take it and upload to a image sharing site like imagebin
[10:21] <doez> Well that's basically it man
[10:21] <doez> I formatted my pc, copied some files and activated my video drivers. Then BAM they were all gone
[10:21] <doez> No harm tho, im adding them back now
[10:22] <doez> I just wanted to know if i could add stuff back.
[10:22] <hobgoblin> oh ok :)
[10:24] <hobgoblin> fyi - if you search in synaptic for indicator you'll see things like indicator-datetime etc - if they are not installed they'll not be there in the panel
[12:08] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[12:08] <kosaidpo> anyone kno any app that alert you after a certain time ??
[12:51] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[12:53] <doez> Hi kristian-aalborg
[13:09] <UndiFineD> o/
[13:26] <kristian-aalborg> \m/
[13:41] <UndiFineD> Chilldy, I am awake again, is your problem resolved ?
[13:43] <Chilldy> Nope
[13:43] <UndiFineD> ok shall I have another look at this, while I am fresh again :D
[13:43] <Chilldy> I've been talking to blip for hours now in another channel
[13:43] <UndiFineD> which chan ?
[14:25] <kristian-aalborg> bugger, I can't remember how I got wifi to work
[14:52] <doez> Why did some of my files dissapear when I mounted the hdd in linux?
[14:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> Files disappeared?
[14:52] <doez> I had a folder called "Backup", now I don't.
[14:53] <doez> I noticed the first time i formatted the hdd to linux.
[14:53] <doez> I still have some files there, but several folders n files are gone
[14:54] <doez> Well I had separate hdds obviously, I just formatted the systemdisk
[14:55] <IAmNotThatGuy> there is no chance of losing data
[14:56] <doez> Well it's not there.
[14:56] <doez> I was thinking about installing win7 to see if they're there
[14:56] <doez> But it seems absurd to think that linux filters them out, or even deletes them
[14:59] <doez> Should I go to windows and see if they show up there?
[14:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> try it
[14:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> but there is *no chance of missing a file*
[15:00] <doez> kay thanks
[15:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> come back and report here =]
[15:00] <doez> Will do.
[15:31] <bioterror> Chilldy, is your server fixed now?
[15:32] <Chilldy> No
[15:32] <Chilldy> Still working on it in another channel
[15:33] <bioterror> why you have not booted older kernel and remove that weird kernel
[15:33]  * bioterror cant understand what's the problem
[15:34] <bioterror> I hope you have not given any login informations to unknown people
[15:36] <Chilldy> No I haven't given login info to anyone
[15:36] <Chilldy> Blip and undifined have been helping
[15:36] <bioterror> why dont you check /boot if there's kernels
[15:36] <bioterror> boot that machine
[15:37] <UndiFineD> bioterror, I managed to get his network up
[15:37] <bioterror> since you're having a "server" with serial connection, you should get real bootscreen to the server
[15:37] <bioterror> UndiFineD, what's the problem them?
[15:37] <UndiFineD> now going to check packages
[15:37] <bioterror> apt-get purge broken packages
[15:37] <bioterror> like that freakin' kernel :D
[15:37] <bioterror> UndiFineD, did you modprobe?
[15:37] <UndiFineD> no
[15:38] <bioterror> I picked 6,5kg ham for christmas and IPTV digibox
[15:39] <bioterror> UndiFineD, how did you get the NIC up?
[15:40] <UndiFineD> ifconfig venet0:0 ipadres netmask 255.255.255.25
[15:40] <UndiFineD> ifconfig venet0:0 ipadres netmask 255.255.255.255
[15:40] <bioterror> okay
[15:50] <doez> IAmNotThatGuy: I resolved my issue, I only had to delete the dots infront of my folders in windows, then I found them in linux again.
[15:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> ah
[15:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> great :)
[15:50] <doez> Why does Linux filter those out?
[15:52] <geirha> linux doesn't have a "hidden" attribute like windows does.
[15:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> we have ./ as an executable file. that maybe the reason. idk exactly
[15:52] <geirha> Instead it's just a common practice that if it begins with ., it's hidden.
[15:53] <doez> So if I name a folder ".folder", it dissapears?
[15:53] <geirha> IAmNotThatGuy: No, that's just a path to the current directory. You use that if you want to execute a file in the current directory instead of having it search through PATH
[15:53] <JoeMaverickSett> doez: have a read at -->> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[15:53] <JoeMaverickSett> doez: oops, sorry wrong link.
[15:53] <geirha> doez: Yes. In nautilus you can toggle showing hidden files with Ctrl+H
[15:53] <drubin> doez: It doesn't disapear but it isn't visible by default
[15:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> geirha, Okies =] tyt
[15:54] <JoeMaverickSett> doez: this one is the right one; http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/aboutfiles.html
[15:54] <drubin> geirha: so yes starting files/folders with . are similar to "hidden" in windows
[15:54] <doez> Kay, seems wierd really.
[15:54] <doez> Thanks for the link.
[15:54] <suprengr> it doesn't filter them out - iytdenotes the file as a hidden file - to stop unnecessary tampering perhaps?]
[15:54] <drubin> doez: No weirder then hidden attribute
[15:54] <suprengr> ...of couse - you could set nayrilus to 'view hidden files' to see them
[15:54] <doez> Coming from luls7 it is.
[15:55] <suprengr> *nautilus
[15:55] <doez> Is nautilus a Linux version like ubuntu?
[15:55] <drubin> doez: No nautilus is just the file browser app.
[15:55] <suprengr> !nautiluws
[15:55] <ubot2> Factoid 'nautiluws' not found
[15:55] <suprengr> !nautilus
[15:55] <ubot2> Factoid 'nautilus' not found
[15:56] <suprengr> doh!
[15:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> !root
[15:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> ?
[15:56] <ubot2> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:56] <geirha> It's Ubuntu's "explorer.exe" equivalent.
[15:56] <drubin> geirha: yes
[15:56] <UndiFineD> bioterror, you mighht be right on that freakin' kernel
[16:04] <doez> What's a "Wrap" in the terminal?
[16:06] <doez> Oh, it said "line wrap"
[16:11] <doez> !wrap
[16:11] <ubot2> Factoid 'wrap' not found
[16:12] <JoeMaverickSett> doez: this might help; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_wrap ;)
[16:13] <doez> cheers
[16:13] <JoeMaverickSett> doez: cheers! :D
[17:46] <kendrickLeiter> I am having trouble playing an mms in mplayer, and opened Synaptic to look for codecs, but when I selected one, it told me I have to install (again?) mplayer.  Is this normal?
[17:51] <nlsthzn> kendrickLeiter: Hmmm... never tried to play an mms before... not sure what mplayer needs but I would personally start of by trying VLC...
[17:55] <CensoredBiscuit> VLC plays anything I love it
[18:44] <reaper_> has anyone got the mmo last chaos to play
[18:45] <nlsthzn> reaper_: not heard of it...
[18:46] <reaper_> http://lastchaos.aeriagames.com/
[18:51] <aveilleux> reaper_: Oh, it's an aeria game. Does it use the same awful cheating protection that WolfTeam does? (Gameguard)
[18:51] <reaper_> no I dont think so
[18:51] <reaper_> I seen vids of it being played on ubuntu
[18:52] <reaper_> i have been reading and I dont a the LC.bat file could that be it
[19:05] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[19:05] <kristian-aalborg> can you set different framebuffer modes for different grub2 entries?
[19:22] <doez> Does anyone know how I disable the timestamp in skype here?
[19:23] <kristian-aalborg> doez: there's a folder named .Skype in your home dir - have a look there
[19:26] <doez> I see the folder with "ls -la", how do I enter the folder?
[19:26] <doez> Nevermind
[19:27] <doez> What command can I use to open a file?
[19:28] <kristian-aalborg> nano filename
[19:28] <kristian-aalborg> make a backup first:
[19:28] <bioterror> ./file is you want to execute
[19:28] <kristian-aalborg> cp filename filename.backup
[19:28] <kristian-aalborg> doez: have you checked that it's not in the Skype settings?
[19:29] <doez> Obviously I did.
[19:30] <doez> I have no idea what im looking for
[19:30] <doez> all I see is .dbb files
[19:35] <kosaidpo_is_away> hello guys
[19:38] <nlsthzn> allo
[19:40] <kosaidpo_is_away> http://pastebin.com/evvj7eXC this script doesnt work can you help me please
[19:41] <nlsthzn> kosaidpo_is_away: .... sorry, I am not able too... (n00b here) but wait, the knowledge here abounds!
[19:42] <kosaidpo_is_away> okies thanks
[19:42] <kosaidpo> ill be here
[19:52] <gumdrop> Hello I am Laura.  I am new to Ubuntu and am wondering if i could find assistance setting up my iSight to work under Ubuntu.
[19:53] <gumdrop> I currently am running a single-boot operation.  I do not have Mac OS Xinstalled right now.
[19:54] <pleia2> hmm, I'm not all that familiar with macs, but there are some google hits for a search: isight ubuntu
[19:54] <pleia2> there is an "isight-firmware-tools" package
[19:54] <pleia2> so installing that is probably your first step :)
[19:55] <gumdrop> Ok thanks.
[19:55] <gumdrop> :)
[19:55] <pleia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleiSight
[19:55] <pleia2> that will probably help too
[19:57] <pleia2> but hm, that seems to require getting the firmware itself from an existing OSX install
[19:57] <pleia2> so you'll have to follow the instructions to find it elsewhere
[19:57] <gumdrop> yeah
[19:58] <gumdrop> luckily this is the only part of my hardware i have to set it up.  evrything else was easy
[19:58] <pleia2> that's good to hear, I knew apple support in ubuntu was improving
[19:59] <gumdrop> i am gonna go look for the firmware package.  i will be back
[20:00] <gumdrop> Thanks pleia
[20:00] <pleia2> sure, good luck
[20:01] <doez> Does anyone know anything about '.lck' or "Lock Files"?
[20:01] <doez> I think I need to open one of those files.
[20:08] <aveilleux> doez: What's in it?
[20:08] <doez> aveilleux: I don't know.
[20:09] <aveilleux> doez: Then why do you have to open it?
[20:13] <kristian-aalborg> doez: nano filename
[20:15] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: nano is only for opening text files.
[20:15] <doez> I did try the nano command, it gives nothing.
[20:16] <aveilleux> doez: What is it from? Can you give some more details?
[20:19] <kristian-aalborg> hi aveilleux
[20:19] <kristian-aalborg> it appears to be the configuration files for Skype
[20:30] <doez> aveilleux: I needed to edit some skype settings, so I assume it's some kind of database with some stuff inside.
[20:34] <aveilleux> doez: Why can't you change the settings within the application?
[20:35] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[20:35] <kosaidpo> how can u se export to make a scipt accessible from everywhre ?
[20:36] <doez> aveilleux: You'll have to ask the Skype team that. I want to disable the timestamps in the chat.
[20:36] <drubin> kosaidpo: Where is your script located?
[20:36] <kosaidpo> in my /home/dir
[20:36] <drubin> kosaidpo: put them in ~/bin
[20:36] <drubin> ~/bin should be on your path so you can use them from any where
[20:37] <drubin> kosaidpo: check that echo $PATH   contains /home/username/bin
[20:37] <kosaidpo> drubin: okies but can you show me how icanuse export ??
[20:37] <drubin> if it doesn't we can add it
[20:37] <aveilleux> drubin: I don't believe that's an option in the Linux version. Skype uses its own database format for settings, which isn't just straight text
[20:38] <drubin> doez: ^
[20:38] <kosaidpo> drubin: the /home its not in the PATH
[20:39] <drubin> kosaidpo: ok ;) in your ~/.bashrc file at the end add a line like  export PATH="$PATH:/home/username/bin"
[20:40] <drubin> kosaidpo: once you have done that in your current terminal type "source ~/.bashrc" with out the quotes
[20:40] <drubin> or reopen a new terminal
[20:40] <doez> drubin: ty
[20:40] <kosaidpo> source ??
[20:40] <doez> aveilleus: So im fucked?
[20:41] <drubin> kosaidpo: source reloads the config file
[20:41] <kosaidpo> ahh okies thanks
[20:41] <zkriesse> doez: Please watch your language
[20:41] <doez> zkreiesse: Will do.
[20:42] <geirha> No, don't export PATH from .bashrc
[20:42] <geirha> set environment variables in .profile or .bash_profile
[20:43] <geirha> Though ubuntu recommends using the pam_env module
[20:43] <drubin> geirha: why not .bashrc
[20:43] <geirha> Though, the default .profile in ubuntu adds ~/bin to PATH if it exists.
[20:44] <geirha> drubin: Because .bashrc is read for each interactive shell
[20:44] <drubin> geirha: Thanks for the correction
[20:44] <kosaidpo> uhm guys so whats good practice to do ?
[20:44]  * drubin has a very custom bashrc setup so it works
[20:44] <drubin> kosaidpo: Do what geirha says
[20:44] <geirha> kosaidpo: You just create ~/bin   next time you log in, it'll be in PATH
[20:45] <geirha> unless you've removed that code from your ~/.profile
[20:45] <drubin> kosaidpo: and delete the line I told you tot add
[20:45] <kosaidpo> iokies guys  thanks all
[20:45] <geirha> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/DotFiles explains how bash treats those files.
[20:48] <kosaidpo> geirha: i put em in ~/bin but its not wokin
[20:49] <geirha> Did you log out and back in again?
[20:50] <yofel> kosaidpo: did you logout and login again? (or run: . ~/.profile)
[20:50] <kosaidpo> no i jst reopened the terminal
[20:50] <yofel> that won't help for .profile, either source the file manually or log out
[20:50] <kosaidpo> i font have the .profile ??
[20:51] <geirha> .profile is read when you log in.
[20:51] <kosaidpo> ill re login
[20:57] <geirha> Oh, lovely, the last update for chromium apparently added bookmarks.
[20:58] <geirha> Or maybe it's had it for a while with me not just noticing ...
[21:00] <kosaidpo> hello guys it doesnt work
[21:01] <yofel> kosaidpo: what does 'echo $PATH' give you now?
[21:01] <kosaidpo> yofel: still no /home in thee
[21:02] <yofel> kosaidpo: do you have a ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login ?
[21:03] <kosaidpo> no
[21:03] <yofel> kosaidpo: when and how did you create your home folder?
[21:03] <kosaidpo> when i installed my lubuntu
[21:03] <yofel> anyway, run 'cp /etc/skel/.profile ~/'
[21:04] <yofel> then try to login again
[21:04] <kosaidpo> ok
[21:05] <kosaidpo> done
[21:06] <kosaidpo> and run the souce profile and it still not accessible that scipt
[21:07] <kosaidpo> yofel: still not workin even run source profile
[21:09] <geirha> kosaidpo: Does   echo "$PATH"   show the dir?
[21:10] <geirha> Oops sorry, you've already covered that :)
[21:10] <kosaidpo> geirha: yeh it does now
[21:11] <kosaidpo> SHUD i put the script in ~/bin now ?
[21:11] <geirha> Hm. You didn't have .profile? So you didn't create the user with the typical tools?
[21:11] <kosaidpo> noo i install my lubuntu via a flash usb
[21:11] <kosaidpo> n its workin well
[21:12] <geirha> And the user you're currently logged in as was the user it created during install?
[21:12] <geirha> Yes, copy/move the script to ~/bin
[21:12] <kosaidpo> ok yeh i have only one account on here
[21:12] <kosaidpo> wichi is me
[21:13] <kosaidpo> geirha: done how ican reload the hole thing now
[21:13] <kosaidpo> with the source ??
[21:14] <geirha> kosaidpo: No, you don't need to do anything more than that
[21:14] <geirha> You can run the script now without providing its path.
[21:14] <kosaidpo> well icant infact it says no such file bla lba
[21:15] <geirha> What's the exact line you're typing in?
[21:15] <kosaidpo> ./name_OF_FILE
[21:16] <geirha> kosaidpo: name_OF_FILE   without ./
[21:16] <kosaidpo> okies
[21:16] <geirha> with ./ you're telling bash NOT to use PATH, but to instead look for the file to execute in the current directory.
[21:16] <kosaidpo> geirha: thanks a lot
[21:17] <kosaidpo> infact i miss a lot of basic in shel thingy
[21:17] <kosaidpo> thanks again
[21:17] <geirha> kosaidpo: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[21:17] <geirha> That's the best bash guide out there. Intended for beginners.
[21:17] <kosaidpo> infact i kno some cp grep u kno those
[21:18] <kosaidpo> but u kno like this thingy iwas askin for
[21:18] <kosaidpo> n others
[21:18] <kosaidpo> like wht does the export cmmd  fo example
[21:19] <geirha> export makes a variable an environment variable. That means the variable will be inherited by the commands you run.
[21:19] <geirha> var=test; bash -c 'echo "$test"'  # will output a blank line.
[21:19] <geirha> err, sorry.   var=test; export var; bash -c 'echo "$var"'  # will output a blank line.
[21:20] <geirha> var=test; export var; bash -c 'echo "$var"'  # will output test
[21:21] <kosaidpo> i got it and cud i put a script instead of a vaiable ?
[21:21] <geirha> You can't export a script, no. Only variables.
[21:22] <kosaidpo> geirha: ahh okies but i dont see the point to do so with a variable  ?
[21:22] <geirha> kosaidpo: Well, some commands look for certain environment variables, and does different stuff depending on what it contains.
[21:23] <yofel> kosaidpo: what do you want to do in the first place, export has to do with variable visibility
[21:24] <kosaidpo> geirha: okies yofel ur explain was straight i do a lil of php tho
[21:24] <yofel> I don't know much php, but I know bash and php don't have that much in common
[21:24] <kosaidpo> but guys can u give a real example to shoe me the utility to do that to a var ?
[21:25] <kosaidpo> nooooo yofel the visibilty hihi thats why
[21:25] <kosaidpo> in php a var declaed in braces  will not exist out of em unless its a global
[21:26] <kosaidpo> got me wht im tryin to say
[21:26] <geirha> kosaidpo: echo foobar | grep foo  # do you see foo marked with red when you run that?
[21:27] <kosaidpo> yeh i guess its normal cus i searhced fore it with grep
[21:27] <yofel> yes, and a variable will exist in the current shell only by default and isn't visible in a sub-shell, so 'test=0; bash; echo $test' will be empty, 'test=0; export $test; bash; echo $test' will print 0
[21:27] <geirha> kosaidpo: Now run:  export GREP_COLORS='ms=01;32'
[21:28] <geirha> kosaidpo: And then run   echo foobar | grep foo   again.
[21:28] <kosaidpo> geirha: you changed that color variable ?
[21:28] <kosaidpo> is it
[21:29] <geirha> grep reads the GREP_COLORS environment variable (if it exists), and uses the value to decide what colors to use.
[21:29] <kosaidpo> enaie
[21:30] <kosaidpo> ahh isee so export can redefine the var  too ?
[21:31] <geirha> kosaidpo: Yes, in bash you can do that. In older shells, you'd have to:  GREP_COLORS='ms=01;32'; export GREP_COLORS
[21:31] <yofel> kosaidpo: export makes a variable an environment variable or changes a environment variable (running 'env' will print all existing environment variables)
[21:31] <kosaidpo> yeah well thanks guys all
[21:32] <kosaidpo> have good time guys and thanks again
[22:19] <black> Hi Guys,
[22:23] <CensoredBiscuit> Hello black
[22:23] <CensoredBiscuit> welcome to #ubuntu-beginners
[22:24] <black> Hi :-) I am a real linux beginner after I spemn all me life with Windows and Amiga :-)
[22:24] <black> spemn=spent
[22:25] <black> I need help, an answer for the foolowing problem:
[22:25] <black> I need help, an answer for the following problem:
[22:25] <CensoredBiscuit> Go ahead
[22:26] <black> just installed, succed with BT4 install yerterday
[22:27] <black> for me a windows user it was a nightmare of course :-)
[22:27] <CensoredBiscuit> Whats the issue?
[22:27] <yofel> Is our installer that bad? (or am I just used to win98) and right, what's the issue? ^^
[22:28] <black> the issue is: synaptic manager does not run, neither user management application, nor the "services" application
[22:29] <black> I receive a strange error message if i wanna run the "services": the platfor you are running is not supported
[22:29] <black> and a list apperas where i am offered a selection of linix distributions to choose from if I am sure I am compatible to
[22:30] <black> so synaptic manager even can not be seen/find on the machine, Services is not runnign at all
[22:32] <black> answering your question above: i really can not say anything for the installer bec the whole linux system, the way it works and behaves is totally new to me and strange
[22:32] <black> I just reinstalled now this BT4 R2 again but the problem remained the same
[22:33] <yofel> what's bt4 r2 and which release did you installed?
[22:33] <black> the latest from the back track site
[22:33] <black> the first download link :-)
[22:33] <black> it says nemesis
[22:34] <yofel> black: this is a channel from the ubuntu linux distribution, the backtrack folks should be in #backtrack-linux from their website
[22:35] <black> i see, sorry! but I realized that this is ubuntu based distribution and the issue might be some general bec I saw similar error at other on forums it is why I tried here
[22:36] <black> i did not find BT specific channel here
[22:36] <yofel> yeah, seems ubuntu based, I can't say I get what goes wrong there though
[22:37] <yofel> black: type in your input field: /join #backtrack-linux
[22:37] <yofel> that'll get you to them
[22:37] <black> thank you!!!
[22:38] <black> good luck guys and wish the best for Ubuntu bec I tried that first and that is rival to Win7 if developed on this way
[22:39] <black> bye than!
[22:59] <slashedice> got a question on the network manager, can anybody help?
[23:00] <yofel> !anyone | slashedice
[23:00] <ubot2> slashedice: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:02] <slashedice> is there a way to add network manager to system-preferences or system-administration?
[23:07] <kosaidpo> geirha: hello
[23:08] <kosaidpo> that thingy didnt wok well it does but every time i close my terminal i shud re-do that  source profile
[23:14] <kendrickLeiter> I am in the process of using VLC for firefox instead of totem.  I both apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc and apt-get remove totem-mozilla and things are streaming way better, but there is no way to pause / resume, or change where I'm at in a file.  Any help would be appreciated
[23:16] <geirha> kosaidpo: No, then the file has the wrong name.
[23:17] <geirha> kosaidpo: It should be  .profile  not  profile
[23:17] <kosaidpo> geirha: you mean the profile file ?? i dont think so cus i only close n e open a new terminal and do echo $PATH and theres no  home/bla /bla
[23:18] <kosaidpo> yeh thats wht i have
[23:21] <geirha> Hm. That's odd. ~/.profile apparently doesn't get sourced at login on your system.
[23:22] <geirha> I can't think of any reasons why it wouldn't.
[23:44] <kosaidpo> geirha: btw im using lubuntu not ubuntu
[23:44] <kosaidpo> i jst tho i wud let you kno
[23:46] <hakimsheriff> sorry if this is repeated but my internet got cut-off and I am not sure if this message was sent, What are the requirments to join the Ubuntu Members group?
[23:47] <geirha> kosaidpo: Could be, though I'd expect all variants to do the same in that regard.
[23:47] <holstein> hakimsheriff: you have a launchpad account?
[23:47] <hakimsheriff> yes
[23:47] <holstein> wiki?
[23:47] <hakimsheriff> yes
[23:47] <holstein> code of conduct signed?
[23:47] <hakimsheriff> yes
[23:48] <holstein> thats as far as i got ;)
[23:48] <hakimsheriff> so can  apply?
[23:48] <holstein> i would assume if you apply, and you need something you would be told
[23:49] <holstein> let me see if there is a wiki page though
[23:49] <yofel> kosaidpo: just curious, what does 'ls -l ~/.profile' tell you?
[23:50] <holstein> AH
[23:50] <kosaidpo> -rw-r--r-- 1 xsaiddx www-data 675 2010-12-19 23:18 .profile
[23:50] <holstein> hakimsheriff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[23:50] <kosaidpo> yofel: -rw-r--r-- 1 xsaiddx www-data 675 2010-12-19 23:18 .profile
[23:50] <yofel> hm...
[23:50] <yofel> here's mine: -rw-r--r-- 1 yofel yofel 1713 2010-11-17 20:12 /home/yofel/.profile
[23:51] <yofel> why www-data o.O
[23:51] <hakimsheriff> yes I read it but I was wondering if anyone could apply, even I if i have only been helping ubuntu for a month
[23:52] <holstein> hakimsheriff: you would probably be told you should contribute more
[23:52] <holstein> for longer
[23:52] <holstein> but, you can apply, and officially hear that
[23:52] <holstein> at least your intentions will be known
[23:54] <hakimsheriff> how long do I have to wait?
[23:55] <kosaidpo> yofel:  iealyy dont kno
[23:55] <yofel> kosaidpo: you copied the file from /etc/skel/ right? what does 'ls -l /etc/skel/.profile' give?
[23:55] <kosaidpo> it gives me wht i paste ealie to you
[23:56] <kosaidpo> ahh hang on
[23:56] <Boots> Hello all! I partitioned my HD and installed Ubuntu desktop 10.10, then installed Windows 7 on the other partition. I can't figure out how to boot into Ubuntu now, It just goes straight into Windows
[23:56] <kosaidpo> yofel: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 675 2010-04-19 01:51 /etc/skel/.profile
[23:56] <yofel> hakimsheriff: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Membership
[23:57] <yofel> kosaidpo: *that* looks right, now what does 'echo $HOME' tell you?
[23:58] <kosaidpo> my /home/xsaiddx
[23:58] <yofel> good, now try 'ls -l /home/xsaiddx/.profile' ?