[03:41] <dragon> Is it better to install eclipse manually or to get it from the repos?
[03:44] <akk> Is it even in the repos? I installed it manually.
[03:45] <akk> Oh, I remember now: I asked that and was told that the version in the repos was super old, and to definitely get it from the website.
[03:48] <dragon> akk: wasn't that like 2 releases ago?
[03:48] <dragon> I think they brought it up to 3.5 in last release.
[03:49] <akk> Shrug. That's what I was told, so I followed directions and got the non-repo version.
[03:50] <akk> (heading off to a meeting, but have fun!)
[22:45] <akk> Just saw the tweet about the meeting tonight -- it says to use irc.ubuntu.com
[22:45] <akk> whois says there is no such name
[22:46] <pleia2> yikes, did it break?
[22:46] <pleia2> elizabeth@r3a2:~$ host irc.ubuntu.com
[22:46] <pleia2> irc.ubuntu.com is an alias for chat.freenode.net.
[22:46] <pleia2> looks fine
[22:49] <pleia2> could be that it broke for a little while and hasn't resolved everywhere yet? but I haven't heard anything
[23:04] <akk> Interesting, host has it but whois doesn't.
[23:05] <akk> Maybe whois doesn't list aliases.
[23:12] <pleia2> yeah, and standard whois just tells TLD ownership info, no address info aside from nameserver
[23:17] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/10December19 edited
[23:53] <icarus_> Hello
[23:56] <icarus_> just stoped by to check this out
[23:56] <pleia2> hi icarus_
[23:57] <icarus_> hello I though I was the only one in here for a second
[23:57] <pleia2> :)
[23:57] <icarus_> I been using ubuntu for a while and I like to get envoled
[23:57] <pleia2> so, I'm looking at the dates for the southern california linux expo and I'm thinking I'll just fly down (I know some bay area folks are carpooling, but work means I really need to work thursday and monday, not spend them travelling
[23:57] <pleia2> )
[23:57] <pleia2> icarus_: cool, where in california are you?
[23:58] <icarus_> La mirada
[23:58] <icarus_> But moving to irvine soon
[23:59] <pleia2> cool, we've got some folks down that way
[23:59] <pleia2> and we're planning our booth for https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/
[23:59] <pleia2> our project page even has a discount code for registration :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x