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sharehi00:24
shareim trying to change resolution for the ATI card00:24
sharei dont have any xorg.conf00:24
gr8m8!xrandr00:25
ubottuXRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1200:25
shareATI Technologies Inc 264VT [Mach64 VT] (rev 40)00:25
shareold00:25
share:\00:25
gr8m8not just for dual screens00:25
shareim installing fdlrx00:26
share:x00:26
sharei have no idea how to change the  resolution00:26
sharei cant go up to 800x60000:27
shareit installed ati catalyst control center00:29
sharebut i cannot open it00:30
shareit says driver is not installed?00:30
gr8m8then install the driver maybe00:30
gr8m8!ati00:30
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:30
sharegr8m8: no proprietary drivers00:36
shareare in use00:36
gr8m8share: is there an option to select one to install00:36
shareno00:36
share:\00:36
gr8m8I never bother with the proprietry drivers00:37
gr8m8maybe there isn't one for your card00:37
gr8m8since it is old00:37
share..00:37
shareaticonfig: No supported adapters detected00:38
gr8m8have a look at the x log to see why the resolution is limited00:38
sharehow can i check the logs00:38
sharein xubuntu00:38
gr8m8in the file browser go to /var/log/Xorg.0.log00:38
sharebunch of stuff00:44
sharegr8m8: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5mmbEuda00:46
share(insufficient memory for mode)00:48
share?00:48
gr8m8share: your system mustn't have enough memory for the card to use some too00:51
sharegr8m8: with XP i could use higher rest00:58
sharei found the pc and it had XP on it00:59
share:P00:59
shareand why i dont have xorg.conf00:59
gr8m8that would be due to diff drivers00:59
gr8m8you use /etc/X11/xorg.confd dir now01:00
sharegraphic drivers?01:00
gr8m8yep01:00
gr8m8I guess01:00
sharewell ol that im sure01:00
andsssHi, anyone knows what is (rev0x) in lspci output means?01:03
andsss00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)01:03
gr8m8I always thought it meant revision number 1, the first update of the firmware01:04
gr8m8I base that on no hard facts tho01:05
andsssthanks, im curious because there are solution for this 855GM but it stated for (rev02)01:05
gr8m8andsss: this has some tips for the gm cards - http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel01:07
andsssgr8m8, ok checking01:07
sharegr8m8: how can i change it to 16bit01:13
sharemaybe 24 doesnt support01:13
gr8m8share: look at the xrandr lnk ubottu gave earlier01:15
share"I installed ubuntu a few days ago, worked all fine except for the resolution... i could only get 800x600@75Hz. I tried pretty much everything I found here and here and managed to get the resolution up to 1024x768@75 Hz by editing the xorg.conf and reconfiguring the xserver... but now I'm stuck! I know that I can get a resolution of 1152x864@75 Hz since I had that on the same computer under windows xp. I'll post the code, maybe one of you has an idea. tha01:16
sharehow could he edit xorg.conf if i have none01:16
gr8m8share: look at the xrandr lnk ubottu gave earlier01:18
share(==) Using config directory: "/usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d"01:24
gr8m8I told you that earlier :)01:25
gr8m8oh no - it says /usr/lib sorry01:25
shareo.o01:25
sharewhy dont have the xorg.conf01:25
gr8m8I've never seen that before - what's in there?01:26
share05-evdev.conf  10-synaptics.conf  10-vmmouse.conf  10-wacom.conf01:26
gr8m8share: it has moved on and does things differently now - you can make one if you want or copy one from the net for your card01:26
sharexorg.conf?01:27
shareand place in /etc/X11/ ?01:27
share*place it01:27
gr8m8yep and yep01:28
sharehm01:29
shareso i copy this? http://ww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=64853101:30
gr8m8if it matches your card sure01:30
share:x01:30
shareand how do i restart x01:30
gr8m8logout and log back in normally does it01:31
sharehm01:33
sharei dont know what im doing but ok01:33
share:D01:33
gr8m8share: you copy the text that is the xorg.conf from that forum01:34
shareVideoRam 200001:34
shareand that xandr thing is complicated01:35
gr8m8find on the net a whole xorg.conf for your vid card first is what I'd do01:35
sharelol01:38
sharevnc stopped working01:38
sharedeleted xorg.conf now im back01:40
shareif i could find the xorg.conf01:51
gr8m8what does   lspci | grep -i vga   return?01:52
gr8m8in terminal01:52
share00:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 264VT [Mach64 VT] (rev 40)01:53
share01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)01:53
gr8m8you'll have to block one of in the bios - is the ati onboard?01:53
shareyes01:54
gr8m8check the x log you are prob using the sis graphics01:54
sharewhat do you mean01:55
shareprob01:55
gr8m8it is short for probably01:56
sharei dont know01:57
gr8m8share: you could paste your x log02:03
gr8m8!paste | share02:03
ubottushare: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:03
sharehttp://ww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=64853102:04
sharethat?02:04
gr8m8no02:04
gr8m8your x log and I can check what card you are using02:05
gr8m8use paste.ubuntu.com02:05
sharewhere is the x log02:07
share>  /var/log/ .. ?02:07
gr8m8yep02:10
sharebut which fiel02:10
sharefile02:11
gr8m8didn't you look at it before and paste lines in here from it?02:11
gr8m8Xorg.0.log02:11
share0 to 5 .log02:12
sharei posted one02:12
gr8m8and ?02:12
shareshould i post the 5th02:13
shareor the 002:13
shareagain02:13
gr8m8the Xorg.0.log is the one that is from the current boot02:14
share(--) MACH64(0): ATI 264VT graphics controller detected.02:14
gr8m8so that one02:14
sharegr8m8: http://pastebin.com/iLzSjFrg02:16
gr8m8so you need to find an xorg.conf that is for that card and if you are going to use the videoram option you need to make sure your system has enough memory02:16
sharelol the memory is the same from windows xp02:17
shareand it supports higher res02:17
gr8m8share: look at line 182 - that tells why it is limited02:18
gr8m8you can use 800x600 but you need to set the monitors hsync line 211 says that02:20
sharei dont know man02:21
sharewhat hsync i02:21
shares02:21
shareor how to set it02:21
sharegr8m8: now im not using a monitor02:21
sharejust vnc02:21
sharebut with monitor i cant use more than 800x600002:22
share60002:22
sharehow is it a memory problemm02:22
shareram or video card memory02:23
gr8m8you have to appreciate that for your older card ati didn't give out the specs so it was reverse engineered and 'cause it is so old noone's gone back to the old driver to update it02:24
gr8m8I don't know how to improve the resolution for vnc except find a xorg.conf file that'll work for you02:25
sharehm02:25
shareim going to connect to the monior02:25
sharemonitor02:25
gr8m8luck02:25
sharei only found that xorg02:26
shareand vnc stopped working dunno what happened02:26
sharei cant even shutdown the computer properly lol02:27
shareit pisses me off02:37
sharegrr02:59
sharegr8m8: i made some progress03:10
sharenow im using 1024x76803:10
share75hz03:10
sharechanged to 16bit03:11
shareSection "Screen" Identifier    "Default Screen" DefaultDepth    1603:11
shareEndSection03:11
gr8m8share: you found a xorg.conf to use?03:17
shareyes a simple one03:19
sharegr8m8: and yeah it's a memory problem03:19
share:p03:19
gr8m8that's what the log said03:19
gr8m8and logs don't lie03:20
shareso i need 2048kB?03:20
sharehow many mb is that03:20
gr8m82mb03:20
sharenow RAm03:20
sharevideo memory?03:20
gr8m8I think the onboard uses the system memory and you have a problem with that connection03:22
gr8m8by what the log said03:22
sharehm03:34
shareit's weird cause i have +500mb ram03:34
shareand 8mb video memory03:34
sharebtw now the system is a little faster with 16bit03:34
shareand looks better too03:34
sharegr8m8: but i didnt solve the shutdown problem03:35
shareit says: system halted03:35
sharebtw i used this xorg.conf http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=904b2c86c6844c393bd15dd35b9a042b&p=7783321&postcount=203:40
sharehow can i make xubuntu run faster04:01
sharechanging window manager04:02
share?04:02
gr8m8a lighter window manager, not using gdm to login, stopping services that aren't used - I'm sure there is a forum post on it04:11
sharewhat wm you advice04:12
sharei have stopped many useless services04:12
shareEdit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and put acpi=force04:14
sharei dont have that file.. lol04:14
gr8m8you have grub2 now so you edit /etc/default grub instead04:20
gr8m8and run update-grub04:20
gr8m8you have grub2 now so you edit /etc/default/grub instead04:20
gr8m8and run update-grub04:20
share_gr8m8: btw in bios04:24
share_i have apm and acpi04:25
share_dunno if i should change something04:25
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deddlyHow do I update the software catalogue in Softgware Center?08:26
deddlySoftware*08:26
Sysithere's propably button somewhere if it doesn't do it automatically08:29
deddlyhmmmmm08:33
deddlyAppartnely it's a known bug. Fixed now08:41
deddlyMy sound is really wierd. When I play a song, sometimes there is no sound at all, sometimes the song plays but with odd clicking, sometimes I just get a loud buzz like it's repeating part of the song over and over very fast and occasionally, though not often, the song plays with no problems. What is causing this and can it be fixed?09:49
deddly!es09:49
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.09:49
GeoZoohi, someone out there ;-)10:08
deddlyI'm out there10:19
deddlyStill need help with my audio... My sound is really weird. When I play a song, sometimes there is no sound at all, sometimes the song plays but with odd clicking, sometimes I just get a loud buzz like it's repeating part of the song over and over very fast and occasionally, though not often, the song plays with no problems. However the song starts off, that's how it plays all the way through. What is causing this and can it be fixed?10:19
GeoZoouh, that's sounds quite hard to have no good sound on your machine :( but sorry, i'm what they call a noob...10:24
GeoZoodo you have this problems by playing sound of your hdd or if you stream stuff as well?10:25
nicofsdeddly, have you had a look at your soundcard/drivers yet?10:28
GeoZooGoeZoo10:39
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MorphixNWcan anyone here help me with a touchscreen on 10.10?16:07
MorphixNWcan anyone here help to install/calibrate a touchscreen on 10.10?16:25
MorphixNWcan anyone please help me with touchscreen calibration on 10.10?16:50
MorphixNWI have an eGalax Touchscreen which does appear to be installed, however, the calibration is miles off and I cant configure it16:52
josh1how do I remove an item from the menu, I added a shortcut to a google chrome app and then removed the app, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove the shortcut in the menu17:13
MorphixNWis it possible to calibrate a touchscreen using xorg.conf to set the screen parametres?17:18
MorphixNWparameters*17:18
josh1how do I remove a shortcut from the main menu?17:19
bodyahi yo everybody. just installed xubuntu)18:20
charlie-tca!hi | bodya18:20
ubottubodya: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!18:20
MorphixNWhas anyone had experience setting up touchscreens? I have been trying to make this one work all day and my head is now hurting lol18:31
MorphixNWI think I just need to calibrate it, however, thats the tricky part18:31
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mark76What's going on here? :/21:24
mark76Hey! You're all back :)21:24
B-r00t!netsplit21:25
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit21:25
woodzyhello21:40
woodzyi have a question: i am using xubuntu 10.10 with all recent updates; my panels disappeared. when i run xfce4-panel the following program comes up instead: gigolo file manager. how can i fix this so that my panels come back?21:53
woodzyor how can i reset my settings back to default?21:53
saintlyhiya ppl, anyone able to answer a themes question?23:12
saintlynobody? lol i couldnt find anything online about it..23:13
charlie-tcaWithout knowing your question, no one can say whether or not they know the answer.23:14
mark76It might help if you asked the bleeding question first :p23:14
charlie-tcaPlease ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.23:14
saintlyalright well the bleeding question23:15
saintlyis How do i go about installing a Moomex them into my Xubuntu 10.1023:15
charlie-tca!themes23:16
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy23:16
charlie-tcaWell, that didn't help23:16
saintlylol23:16
charlie-tcaadd it to ~/.themes23:16
saintlyitd be moomex 0.7.1, and i already have it installed.23:17
saintlyitll be that easy then?23:17
charlie-tcaThen select it in Applications -> Settings Manager -> Appearance23:17
saintlywhere do i find the ~/.themes file23:17
charlie-tcayou create it23:17
saintlywhere do i Create the ~/.themes file. LOL23:18
mark76It should be there already Charlie23:18
mark76It's a hidden directory23:18
charlie-tcaIt's not normally there by default23:18
mark76Hmm. It was for me23:18
mark76Go to your home directory. Click on show hidden in the view menu23:19
saintlyahh23:19
mark76Bisto?23:20
saintlyits .themes is it?23:20
mark76Yes23:20
saintlydont have it23:20
mark76Okay. So you need to make it23:21
mark76Tell him how to make a directory, chas :)23:21
saintly:D23:22
charlie-tcaopen a terminal23:22
mark76Right click on any white space in the filer amnager window23:22
mark76First option in the menu that pops up should be Create Folder23:23
saintlyim there23:23
mark76I assume you're using thunar23:23
mark76Click on Create Folder and then enter the name as .themes23:24
saintlythunar? im srry, bit of a xubuntu noob...23:24
mark76It's the file manager23:24
mark76Just click on the Places menu or the Home icon on your desktop23:25
mark76If it's not already open23:25
saintlyfigured as much.. no i just use the home button on my desktop, says Saintly~File Manager23:25
mark76Which it probably is23:25
saintlyive made the .themes folder23:25
mark76Cool23:25
mark76Now drag the Moomin theme into it23:26
MorphixNWhow can I copy files from one xubuntu machine to a ubuntu machine (like unc on windows)?23:26
saintlydone, testing..23:27
mark76K23:27
saintlyalright mark, so i just dup whatever files for themeing into this .themes file yeah?23:28
mark76Correct23:29
mark76Dup?23:29
saintlymissed me m :D23:29
mark76Aha23:29
saintlythank ye kindly23:29
mark76Yep23:29
mark76You're welcome23:29
saintlyodds are ill be back... though im surprised how few issues im having. this is a ten year old laptop and i had more trouble with Ubuntu on my 3 mnth old one.23:30
mark76Excellent news :D23:30
MorphixNWsaintly: that is great23:30
mark76Could you ftp it, Morph?23:31
saintly:D ty, yeah 1/3 gig of ram, and its runnin like it has a solid 2gigs23:31
MorphixNWwell I could, I am trying to find the easiest way23:31
MorphixNWdoes ubuntu have a UNC like thing?23:31
mark76Have you checked the repos?23:32
MorphixNWSaintly: I am running 1ghz CPU and 1GB with an 80GN HDD without a hitch23:32
MorphixNWmark76: yes but I am unsure as to the correct terminalogy23:33
charlie-tcaI don't know what unc is, but I use nfs and ssh-fuse to see my other systems partitions23:33
MorphixNWcharlie-tca: do you know of a solution that is better than ftp?23:33
charlie-tcaYou can try scp23:33
charlie-tcauses ssh23:33
MorphixNWssh? isnt that for remote terminal?23:33
MorphixNWcan I use ssh for file tranfers?23:34
charlie-tcaAre both on the same machine?23:34
MorphixNWa) is Xubuntu 10.04 b) is ubuntu 10.1023:34
charlie-tcaLinux doesn't care where the machines are physically, if they are separate machines, it works23:34
MorphixNWok.... so using SSH how can I transfer a file?23:35
charlie-tcascp localfile username@ip:/dir/to/place/filename23:36
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MorphixNWhmmmm that doesnt seem to work23:38
MorphixNWnot enough detail i think, but I not sure23:38
charlie-tcaOkay, do you have access to the machine you want to put the file on?23:39
MorphixNWyes23:40
MorphixNWits on my network, it is my media-centre23:40
charlie-tcaOn that machine,      scp username@ip:/dir/to/filename localfilename23:40
MorphixNWon the machine that has the file(s)?23:41
charlie-tcausername is the login name, ip is the IPaddress of the machine23:41
charlie-tcano, the other machine that you want the file on23:41
charlie-tcaAll it needs is ssh-client on both machines, which is done by default during the installation23:41
charlie-tcascp is just "secure copy"; it is the same as copy, except using ssh across two physical machines23:42
charlie-tcaso it is always scp source destination23:42
MorphixNWI am confused I am sorry :(23:43
charlie-tcaI probably caused that confusion.23:44
charlie-tcatyping on the system you want the file on23:44
MorphixNWok23:44
MorphixNWI am there now23:44
charlie-tcascp username@ip:/dir/to/find/filename localfilename23:45
MorphixNWthis is the machine23:45
charlie-tcausername on the other machine23:45
MorphixNWso the first part is for the remote machine, the second "localfilename" is what and where I want it on this one?23:45
charlie-tcaright23:45
charlie-tcathe username@ip:   identifies the user and machine the file is at23:46
MorphixNWwhat if there is a space is the file or folder name?23:46
charlie-tcahmm, put the whole portion in quotes, I think   "username@..." "localfilename"23:47
charlie-tcaor use a     \    in front of the space23:48
MorphixNWneither work :(23:52
charlie-tca:-(23:52
charlie-tca!nfs23:52
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.23:52
charlie-tcais next, then23:52
MorphixNWcan I share a folder and then connect to it easier?23:53
charlie-tcamaybe23:53
charlie-tcaI don't really know, since I never tried it23:53
MorphixNWI would like an easy solution lol23:53
* mark76 is glad he only has one computer23:53
MorphixNWsorry to say,  but windows made this easy23:53
charlie-tcaeasy solution, copy file to usb drive, move drive to other machine, copy file from usb drive23:53
MorphixNWsurely, so did ubuntu23:54
charlie-tcamaybe gigolo?23:54
MorphixNWusb isnt the best solution and it is the one I have currently23:54
charlie-tcaWhen I started with this, we couldn't just share files between computers. thus, I learned NFS. Then I found out about fuse, and it was easy compared to NFS23:55
charlie-tcathen along came gigolo, which I never tried to use23:55
charlie-tcaNow I am using Dropbox, and ssh-fuse, and can share anything between my computers23:56
bonixavierwhy is xubuntu not lightweight?23:59
charlie-tcaThat depends on your definition of lightweight, doesn't it?23:59
bonixavierI just installed it and got over 200 MB consumption of ram for the base desktop23:59

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