[00:24] <share> hi
[00:24] <share> im trying to change resolution for the ATI card
[00:24] <share> i dont have any xorg.conf
[00:25] <gr8m8> !xrandr
[00:25] <share> ATI Technologies Inc 264VT [Mach64 VT] (rev 40)
[00:25] <share> old
[00:25] <share> :\
[00:25] <gr8m8> not just for dual screens
[00:26] <share> im installing fdlrx
[00:26] <share> :x
[00:26] <share> i have no idea how to change the  resolution
[00:27] <share> i cant go up to 800x600
[00:29] <share> it installed ati catalyst control center
[00:30] <share> but i cannot open it
[00:30] <share> it says driver is not installed?
[00:30] <gr8m8> then install the driver maybe
[00:30] <gr8m8> !ati
[00:36] <share> gr8m8: no proprietary drivers
[00:36] <share> are in use
[00:36] <gr8m8> share: is there an option to select one to install
[00:36] <share> no
[00:36] <share> :\
[00:37] <gr8m8> I never bother with the proprietry drivers
[00:37] <gr8m8> maybe there isn't one for your card
[00:37] <gr8m8> since it is old
[00:37] <share> ..
[00:38] <share> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[00:38] <gr8m8> have a look at the x log to see why the resolution is limited
[00:38] <share> how can i check the logs
[00:38] <share> in xubuntu
[00:38] <gr8m8> in the file browser go to /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:44] <share> bunch of stuff
[00:46] <share> gr8m8: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5mmbEuda
[00:48] <share> (insufficient memory for mode)
[00:48] <share> ?
[00:51] <gr8m8> share: your system mustn't have enough memory for the card to use some too
[00:58] <share> gr8m8: with XP i could use higher rest
[00:59] <share> i found the pc and it had XP on it
[00:59] <share> :P
[00:59] <share> and why i dont have xorg.conf
[00:59] <gr8m8> that would be due to diff drivers
[01:00] <gr8m8> you use /etc/X11/xorg.confd dir now
[01:00] <share> graphic drivers?
[01:00] <gr8m8> yep
[01:00] <gr8m8> I guess
[01:00] <share> well ol that im sure
[01:03] <andsss> Hi, anyone knows what is (rev0x) in lspci output means?
[01:03] <andsss> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[01:04] <gr8m8> I always thought it meant revision number 1, the first update of the firmware
[01:05] <gr8m8> I base that on no hard facts tho
[01:05] <andsss> thanks, im curious because there are solution for this 855GM but it stated for (rev02)
[01:07] <gr8m8> andsss: this has some tips for the gm cards - http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel
[01:07] <andsss> gr8m8, ok checking
[01:13] <share> gr8m8: how can i change it to 16bit
[01:13] <share> maybe 24 doesnt support
[01:15] <gr8m8> share: look at the xrandr lnk ubottu gave earlier
[01:16] <share> "I installed ubuntu a few days ago, worked all fine except for the resolution... i could only get 800x600@75Hz. I tried pretty much everything I found here and here and managed to get the resolution up to 1024x768@75 Hz by editing the xorg.conf and reconfiguring the xserver... but now I'm stuck! I know that I can get a resolution of 1152x864@75 Hz since I had that on the same computer under windows xp. I'll post the code, maybe one of you has an idea. tha
[01:16] <share> how could he edit xorg.conf if i have none
[01:18] <gr8m8> share: look at the xrandr lnk ubottu gave earlier
[01:24] <share> (==) Using config directory: "/usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[01:25] <gr8m8> I told you that earlier :)
[01:25] <gr8m8> oh no - it says /usr/lib sorry
[01:25] <share> o.o
[01:25] <share> why dont have the xorg.conf
[01:26] <gr8m8> I've never seen that before - what's in there?
[01:26] <share> 05-evdev.conf  10-synaptics.conf  10-vmmouse.conf  10-wacom.conf
[01:26] <gr8m8> share: it has moved on and does things differently now - you can make one if you want or copy one from the net for your card
[01:27] <share> xorg.conf?
[01:27] <share> and place in /etc/X11/ ?
[01:27] <share> *place it
[01:28] <gr8m8> yep and yep
[01:29] <share> hm
[01:30] <share> so i copy this? http://ww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=648531
[01:30] <gr8m8> if it matches your card sure
[01:30] <share> :x
[01:30] <share> and how do i restart x
[01:31] <gr8m8> logout and log back in normally does it
[01:33] <share> hm
[01:33] <share> i dont know what im doing but ok
[01:33] <share> :D
[01:34] <gr8m8> share: you copy the text that is the xorg.conf from that forum
[01:34] <share> VideoRam 2000
[01:35] <share> and that xandr thing is complicated
[01:35] <gr8m8> find on the net a whole xorg.conf for your vid card first is what I'd do
[01:38] <share> lol
[01:38] <share> vnc stopped working
[01:40] <share> deleted xorg.conf now im back
[01:51] <share> if i could find the xorg.conf
[01:52] <gr8m8> what does   lspci | grep -i vga   return?
[01:52] <gr8m8> in terminal
[01:53] <share> 00:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 264VT [Mach64 VT] (rev 40)
[01:53] <share> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)
[01:53] <gr8m8> you'll have to block one of in the bios - is the ati onboard?
[01:54] <share> yes
[01:54] <gr8m8> check the x log you are prob using the sis graphics
[01:55] <share> what do you mean
[01:55] <share> prob
[01:56] <gr8m8> it is short for probably
[01:57] <share> i dont know
[02:03] <gr8m8> share: you could paste your x log
[02:03] <gr8m8> !paste | share
[02:04] <share> http://ww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=648531
[02:04] <share> that?
[02:04] <gr8m8> no
[02:05] <gr8m8> your x log and I can check what card you are using
[02:05] <gr8m8> use paste.ubuntu.com
[02:07] <share> where is the x log
[02:07] <share> >  /var/log/ .. ?
[02:10] <gr8m8> yep
[02:10] <share> but which fiel
[02:11] <share> file
[02:11] <gr8m8> didn't you look at it before and paste lines in here from it?
[02:11] <gr8m8> Xorg.0.log
[02:12] <share> 0 to 5 .log
[02:12] <share> i posted one
[02:12] <gr8m8> and ?
[02:13] <share> should i post the 5th
[02:13] <share> or the 0
[02:13] <share> again
[02:14] <gr8m8> the Xorg.0.log is the one that is from the current boot
[02:14] <share> (--) MACH64(0): ATI 264VT graphics controller detected.
[02:14] <gr8m8> so that one
[02:16] <share> gr8m8: http://pastebin.com/iLzSjFrg
[02:16] <gr8m8> so you need to find an xorg.conf that is for that card and if you are going to use the videoram option you need to make sure your system has enough memory
[02:17] <share> lol the memory is the same from windows xp
[02:17] <share> and it supports higher res
[02:18] <gr8m8> share: look at line 182 - that tells why it is limited
[02:20] <gr8m8> you can use 800x600 but you need to set the monitors hsync line 211 says that
[02:21] <share> i dont know man
[02:21] <share> what hsync i
[02:21] <share> s
[02:21] <share> or how to set it
[02:21] <share> gr8m8: now im not using a monitor
[02:21] <share> just vnc
[02:22] <share> but with monitor i cant use more than 800x6000
[02:22] <share> 600
[02:22] <share> how is it a memory problemm
[02:23] <share> ram or video card memory
[02:24] <gr8m8> you have to appreciate that for your older card ati didn't give out the specs so it was reverse engineered and 'cause it is so old noone's gone back to the old driver to update it
[02:25] <gr8m8> I don't know how to improve the resolution for vnc except find a xorg.conf file that'll work for you
[02:25] <share> hm
[02:25] <share> im going to connect to the monior
[02:25] <share> monitor
[02:25] <gr8m8> luck
[02:26] <share> i only found that xorg
[02:26] <share> and vnc stopped working dunno what happened
[02:27] <share> i cant even shutdown the computer properly lol
[02:37] <share> it pisses me off
[02:59] <share> grr
[03:10] <share> gr8m8: i made some progress
[03:10] <share> now im using 1024x768
[03:10] <share> 75hz
[03:11] <share> changed to 16bit
[03:11] <share> Section "Screen" Identifier    "Default Screen" DefaultDepth    16
[03:11] <share> EndSection
[03:17] <gr8m8> share: you found a xorg.conf to use?
[03:19] <share> yes a simple one
[03:19] <share> gr8m8: and yeah it's a memory problem
[03:19] <share> :p
[03:19] <gr8m8> that's what the log said
[03:20] <gr8m8> and logs don't lie
[03:20] <share> so i need 2048kB?
[03:20] <share> how many mb is that
[03:20] <gr8m8> 2mb
[03:20] <share> now RAm
[03:20] <share> video memory?
[03:22] <gr8m8> I think the onboard uses the system memory and you have a problem with that connection
[03:22] <gr8m8> by what the log said
[03:34] <share> hm
[03:34] <share> it's weird cause i have +500mb ram
[03:34] <share> and 8mb video memory
[03:34] <share> btw now the system is a little faster with 16bit
[03:34] <share> and looks better too
[03:35] <share> gr8m8: but i didnt solve the shutdown problem
[03:35] <share> it says: system halted
[03:40] <share> btw i used this xorg.conf http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=904b2c86c6844c393bd15dd35b9a042b&p=7783321&postcount=2
[04:01] <share> how can i make xubuntu run faster
[04:02] <share> changing window manager
[04:02] <share> ?
[04:11] <gr8m8> a lighter window manager, not using gdm to login, stopping services that aren't used - I'm sure there is a forum post on it
[04:12] <share> what wm you advice
[04:12] <share> i have stopped many useless services
[04:14] <share> Edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and put acpi=force
[04:14] <share> i dont have that file.. lol
[04:20] <gr8m8> you have grub2 now so you edit /etc/default grub instead
[04:20] <gr8m8> and run update-grub
[04:20] <gr8m8> you have grub2 now so you edit /etc/default/grub instead
[04:20] <gr8m8> and run update-grub
[04:24] <share_> gr8m8: btw in bios
[04:25] <share_> i have apm and acpi
[04:25] <share_> dunno if i should change something
[08:26] <deddly> How do I update the software catalogue in Softgware Center?
[08:26] <deddly> Software*
[08:29] <Sysi> there's propably button somewhere if it doesn't do it automatically
[08:33] <deddly> hmmmmm
[08:41] <deddly> Appartnely it's a known bug. Fixed now
[09:49] <deddly> My sound is really wierd. When I play a song, sometimes there is no sound at all, sometimes the song plays but with odd clicking, sometimes I just get a loud buzz like it's repeating part of the song over and over very fast and occasionally, though not often, the song plays with no problems. What is causing this and can it be fixed?
[09:49] <deddly> !es
[10:08] <GeoZoo> hi, someone out there ;-)
[10:19] <deddly> I'm out there
[10:19] <deddly> Still need help with my audio... My sound is really weird. When I play a song, sometimes there is no sound at all, sometimes the song plays but with odd clicking, sometimes I just get a loud buzz like it's repeating part of the song over and over very fast and occasionally, though not often, the song plays with no problems. However the song starts off, that's how it plays all the way through. What is causing this and can it be fixed?
[10:24] <GeoZoo> uh, that's sounds quite hard to have no good sound on your machine :( but sorry, i'm what they call a noob...
[10:25] <GeoZoo> do you have this problems by playing sound of your hdd or if you stream stuff as well?
[10:28] <nicofs> deddly, have you had a look at your soundcard/drivers yet?
[10:39] <GeoZoo> GoeZoo
[16:07] <MorphixNW> can anyone here help me with a touchscreen on 10.10?
[16:25] <MorphixNW> can anyone here help to install/calibrate a touchscreen on 10.10?
[16:50] <MorphixNW> can anyone please help me with touchscreen calibration on 10.10?
[16:52] <MorphixNW> I have an eGalax Touchscreen which does appear to be installed, however, the calibration is miles off and I cant configure it
[17:13] <josh1> how do I remove an item from the menu, I added a shortcut to a google chrome app and then removed the app, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove the shortcut in the menu
[17:18] <MorphixNW> is it possible to calibrate a touchscreen using xorg.conf to set the screen parametres?
[17:18] <MorphixNW> parameters*
[17:19] <josh1> how do I remove a shortcut from the main menu?
[18:20] <bodya> hi yo everybody. just installed xubuntu)
[18:20] <charlie-tca> !hi | bodya
[18:31] <MorphixNW> has anyone had experience setting up touchscreens? I have been trying to make this one work all day and my head is now hurting lol
[18:31] <MorphixNW> I think I just need to calibrate it, however, thats the tricky part
[21:24] <mark76> What's going on here? :/
[21:24] <mark76> Hey! You're all back :)
[21:25] <B-r00t> !netsplit
[21:40] <woodzy> hello
[21:53] <woodzy> i have a question: i am using xubuntu 10.10 with all recent updates; my panels disappeared. when i run xfce4-panel the following program comes up instead: gigolo file manager. how can i fix this so that my panels come back?
[21:53] <woodzy> or how can i reset my settings back to default?
[23:12] <saintly> hiya ppl, anyone able to answer a themes question?
[23:13] <saintly> nobody? lol i couldnt find anything online about it..
[23:14] <charlie-tca> Without knowing your question, no one can say whether or not they know the answer.
[23:14] <mark76> It might help if you asked the bleeding question first :p
[23:14] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[23:15] <saintly> alright well the bleeding question
[23:15] <saintly> is How do i go about installing a Moomex them into my Xubuntu 10.10
[23:16] <charlie-tca> !themes
[23:16] <charlie-tca> Well, that didn't help
[23:16] <saintly> lol
[23:16] <charlie-tca> add it to ~/.themes
[23:17] <saintly> itd be moomex 0.7.1, and i already have it installed.
[23:17] <saintly> itll be that easy then?
[23:17] <charlie-tca> Then select it in Applications -> Settings Manager -> Appearance
[23:17] <saintly> where do i find the ~/.themes file
[23:17] <charlie-tca> you create it
[23:18] <saintly> where do i Create the ~/.themes file. LOL
[23:18] <mark76> It should be there already Charlie
[23:18] <mark76> It's a hidden directory
[23:18] <charlie-tca> It's not normally there by default
[23:18] <mark76> Hmm. It was for me
[23:19] <mark76> Go to your home directory. Click on show hidden in the view menu
[23:19] <saintly> ahh
[23:20] <mark76> Bisto?
[23:20] <saintly> its .themes is it?
[23:20] <mark76> Yes
[23:20] <saintly> dont have it
[23:21] <mark76> Okay. So you need to make it
[23:21] <mark76> Tell him how to make a directory, chas :)
[23:22] <saintly> :D
[23:22] <charlie-tca> open a terminal
[23:22] <mark76> Right click on any white space in the filer amnager window
[23:23] <mark76> First option in the menu that pops up should be Create Folder
[23:23] <saintly> im there
[23:23] <mark76> I assume you're using thunar
[23:24] <mark76> Click on Create Folder and then enter the name as .themes
[23:24] <saintly> thunar? im srry, bit of a xubuntu noob...
[23:24] <mark76> It's the file manager
[23:25] <mark76> Just click on the Places menu or the Home icon on your desktop
[23:25] <mark76> If it's not already open
[23:25] <saintly> figured as much.. no i just use the home button on my desktop, says Saintly~File Manager
[23:25] <mark76> Which it probably is
[23:25] <saintly> ive made the .themes folder
[23:25] <mark76> Cool
[23:26] <mark76> Now drag the Moomin theme into it
[23:26] <MorphixNW> how can I copy files from one xubuntu machine to a ubuntu machine (like unc on windows)?
[23:27] <saintly> done, testing..
[23:27] <mark76> K
[23:28] <saintly> alright mark, so i just dup whatever files for themeing into this .themes file yeah?
[23:29] <mark76> Correct
[23:29] <mark76> Dup?
[23:29] <saintly> missed me m :D
[23:29] <mark76> Aha
[23:29] <saintly> thank ye kindly
[23:29] <mark76> Yep
[23:29] <mark76> You're welcome
[23:30] <saintly> odds are ill be back... though im surprised how few issues im having. this is a ten year old laptop and i had more trouble with Ubuntu on my 3 mnth old one.
[23:30] <mark76> Excellent news :D
[23:30] <MorphixNW> saintly: that is great
[23:31] <mark76> Could you ftp it, Morph?
[23:31] <saintly> :D ty, yeah 1/3 gig of ram, and its runnin like it has a solid 2gigs
[23:31] <MorphixNW> well I could, I am trying to find the easiest way
[23:31] <MorphixNW> does ubuntu have a UNC like thing?
[23:32] <mark76> Have you checked the repos?
[23:32] <MorphixNW> Saintly: I am running 1ghz CPU and 1GB with an 80GN HDD without a hitch
[23:33] <MorphixNW> mark76: yes but I am unsure as to the correct terminalogy
[23:33] <charlie-tca> I don't know what unc is, but I use nfs and ssh-fuse to see my other systems partitions
[23:33] <MorphixNW> charlie-tca: do you know of a solution that is better than ftp?
[23:33] <charlie-tca> You can try scp
[23:33] <charlie-tca> uses ssh
[23:33] <MorphixNW> ssh? isnt that for remote terminal?
[23:34] <MorphixNW> can I use ssh for file tranfers?
[23:34] <charlie-tca> Are both on the same machine?
[23:34] <MorphixNW> a) is Xubuntu 10.04 b) is ubuntu 10.10
[23:34] <charlie-tca> Linux doesn't care where the machines are physically, if they are separate machines, it works
[23:35] <MorphixNW> ok.... so using SSH how can I transfer a file?
[23:36] <charlie-tca> scp localfile username@ip:/dir/to/place/filename
[23:38] <MorphixNW> hmmmm that doesnt seem to work
[23:38] <MorphixNW> not enough detail i think, but I not sure
[23:39] <charlie-tca> Okay, do you have access to the machine you want to put the file on?
[23:40] <MorphixNW> yes
[23:40] <MorphixNW> its on my network, it is my media-centre
[23:40] <charlie-tca> On that machine,      scp username@ip:/dir/to/filename localfilename
[23:41] <MorphixNW> on the machine that has the file(s)?
[23:41] <charlie-tca> username is the login name, ip is the IPaddress of the machine
[23:41] <charlie-tca> no, the other machine that you want the file on
[23:41] <charlie-tca> All it needs is ssh-client on both machines, which is done by default during the installation
[23:42] <charlie-tca> scp is just "secure copy"; it is the same as copy, except using ssh across two physical machines
[23:42] <charlie-tca> so it is always scp source destination
[23:43] <MorphixNW> I am confused I am sorry :(
[23:44] <charlie-tca> I probably caused that confusion.
[23:44] <charlie-tca> typing on the system you want the file on
[23:44] <MorphixNW> ok
[23:44] <MorphixNW> I am there now
[23:45] <charlie-tca> scp username@ip:/dir/to/find/filename localfilename
[23:45] <MorphixNW> this is the machine
[23:45] <charlie-tca> username on the other machine
[23:45] <MorphixNW> so the first part is for the remote machine, the second "localfilename" is what and where I want it on this one?
[23:45] <charlie-tca> right
[23:46] <charlie-tca> the username@ip:   identifies the user and machine the file is at
[23:46] <MorphixNW> what if there is a space is the file or folder name?
[23:47] <charlie-tca> hmm, put the whole portion in quotes, I think   "username@..." "localfilename"
[23:48] <charlie-tca> or use a     \    in front of the space
[23:52] <MorphixNW> neither work :(
[23:52] <charlie-tca> :-(
[23:52] <charlie-tca> !nfs
[23:52] <charlie-tca> is next, then
[23:53] <MorphixNW> can I share a folder and then connect to it easier?
[23:53] <charlie-tca> maybe
[23:53] <charlie-tca> I don't really know, since I never tried it
[23:53] <MorphixNW> I would like an easy solution lol
[23:53]  * mark76 is glad he only has one computer
[23:53] <MorphixNW> sorry to say,  but windows made this easy
[23:53] <charlie-tca> easy solution, copy file to usb drive, move drive to other machine, copy file from usb drive
[23:54] <MorphixNW> surely, so did ubuntu
[23:54] <charlie-tca> maybe gigolo?
[23:54] <MorphixNW> usb isnt the best solution and it is the one I have currently
[23:55] <charlie-tca> When I started with this, we couldn't just share files between computers. thus, I learned NFS. Then I found out about fuse, and it was easy compared to NFS
[23:55] <charlie-tca> then along came gigolo, which I never tried to use
[23:56] <charlie-tca> Now I am using Dropbox, and ssh-fuse, and can share anything between my computers
[23:59] <bonixavier> why is xubuntu not lightweight?
[23:59] <charlie-tca> That depends on your definition of lightweight, doesn't it?
[23:59] <bonixavier> I just installed it and got over 200 MB consumption of ram for the base desktop