apacheloggerdantti: I used to be a apackager00:06
apacheloggeryofel: then you can start now00:06
apacheloggerdantti: apachelogger00:06
apacheloggerdantti: markey, markey: dantti00:07
apacheloggerdantti: I think my packagekit is just broken00:13
danttiapachelogger: yeah probably...00:13
danttiapachelogger: does that file installs amor?00:13
apacheloggervalorie: hello 00:13
apacheloggervalorie: helloooooooo00:14
apacheloggerdantti: didnt try00:14
* apachelogger cant write and talk00:14
* apachelogger can listen and type00:14
valoriepiffle, trying to install skype again00:21
valorieit's always been easy, and now I can't find it00:21
valorieheh, apt-get comes through00:23
valoriesilly kpackagekit00:24
apacheloggerdo not bash the kpk00:25
apacheloggerits not kpks fault that it is not javaware00:25
apacheloggerdantti: dude!00:30
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nixternalstupid freenode00:43
apacheloggernixternal: wanna skype00:48
apacheloggerwe are having a development session 00:48
nixternalfor what? you gonna talk dirty to me or something?00:48
nixternali would if i would be of any good, but i am afraid i am not longer of any good00:49
apacheloggernixternal: come on00:49
apacheloggernixternal: what is your skype id?00:49
nixternalthe fact that you would ask what my id/handle is is proof enough that i am no longer of any good :)00:52
danttinixternal: that's the point00:54
apacheloggernixternal: start your skype you blueheaded stepchild00:55
apacheloggeras a matter of fact you are in my contact list00:55
apacheloggeronly skype's filter did not work00:55
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: sure00:56
highvoltagenixternal isn't blueheaded!!00:57
highvoltage(is he?)00:57
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: why are you not answering your phone?00:59
JontheEchidnaI just logged in00:59
JontheEchidnaoh, unless I left my work computer on when I left friday00:59
apacheloggerapparently you did00:59
JontheEchidnahmm, my mic isn't working00:59
JontheEchidnaI'm going to try to get my mic working, so I'll hang up for a bit01:01
JontheEchidnaI don't get it. It should work :(01:06
apacheloggeruse the pulseaudio control01:07
JontheEchidnanot using PA01:08
apacheloggerthat is your problem then01:08
apacheloggervalorie doesnt either01:08
apacheloggerbecause she always flames it01:08
apacheloggerwith pa it works just fine01:08
JontheEchidnaI can't, since PA breaks jacksense01:08
apacheloggeryou do not need jacksense01:08
apacheloggerdo you?01:08
* apachelogger does not even know that01:08
* apachelogger only wrote alsa, pa, phonon and amarok01:08
* apachelogger is the master of all audio01:09
JontheEchidnayes, otherwise people can hear things coming out of my speakers even if I have headphones plugged ing01:09
JontheEchidnasorta renders the point of headphones useless01:09
JontheEchidna(jack sense isn't a software)01:09
nixternalhaha, love watching the sound issues. i remember these same issues 5 years ago too01:13
apacheloggernixternal: can you go online now?01:16
nixternali am online, i am here talking to you aren't I/01:16
JontheEchidnalol, look what kmix let me do: http://i.imgur.com/73GLL.png01:16
apacheloggernixternal: in the skype01:17
nixternalwhat will i or others get from me being on skype?01:17
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that is usability right there01:17
apacheloggerno buttons ...01:17
apacheloggerultimate usability01:17
nixternalthat is almost ubuntuesque01:17
apacheloggernothing to do wrong01:17
danttiapachelogger: nor right01:18
JontheEchidnaironically, my webcam works without doing anything01:22
apacheloggernixternal: skype?01:25
claydohapachelogger: methinks my laptop is a bit broken - I am dohbuoy in skype01:37
apacheloggergo tweak some settings then01:37
JontheEchidnalet's see if this works on windows01:37
claydohbad sound, perhaps my speakers AND my headphone jack :(01:37
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: how is your tweaking coming along?01:37
JontheEchidnatrying windows now01:38
apacheloggerif you had an n900 you could use that01:38
* claydoh contemplates stealing my wifes phone lol01:39
valorieapachelogger: liar! I'm using PA01:40
valorieand I don't flame it01:40
valorieI just reset everything in pavucontrol and it looks like my mic should work01:40
valoriebut unless you are being flooded by The 6ths01:40
valorieit isn't01:40
apacheloggervalorie: ask the nice testing person01:40
valorieit worked in 10.04, with pa01:41
apacheloggeruse mac osx01:42
apacheloggeror beos01:42
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: got it working with windows01:43
JontheEchidnaplz call01:43
apacheloggerclaydoh: markey, markey: claydoh01:44
markeyclaydoh: hey :)01:45
markeynice to meet you01:45
markeyapachelogger: no, we do *not* want to see videos of your boner01:46
claydohmarkey: hello :)01:46
nixternalfor an hour plus, you all have been messing with audio to have a meeting...oh lord :p01:47
nixternalif you have an android phone, just throw skype on it and be done with it already01:47
claydohnixternal:  I didn't have to fiddle, I ma lucky01:47
nixternaloh, saw something about bad sound from ya01:48
apacheloggerclaydoh: too much :D01:48
claydohnixternal: crappy laptop, pluggd in working headphones01:48
apacheloggermuesli: ping01:49
apacheloggerclaydoh: Mamarok, Mamarok: claydoh01:50
apacheloggersilly silly01:50
apacheloggerthis is getting silly01:50
apacheloggerstop it immediately01:50
apacheloggermonty python <301:50
apacheloggerclaydoh: you are making weird noise01:52
apacheloggernixternal: ping pin01:58
apacheloggerwe are talking about richards....01:58
apacheloggeryou could rule them all01:58
apacheloggerif only you joined01:58
valorieI'm going to quit -- it's just torture to see that someone's talking, and not be able to hear02:07
valoriemaybe another time, after a restart or something02:07
apacheloggeraward <----02:15
claydohmy wife thinks I am wierd02:16
claydohor rather wierder for chatting online w/skype02:17
apacheloggerthe guy here just said so too02:17
claydohluddite she is, with her galaxy S smartphone and all :(02:17
apacheloggerclaydoh: also you are weird :P02:17
claydohapachelogger: sure :)02:17
claydohused to get at least an hour out of my battery, Skype must suck it dry02:18
claydohnow I have to be quiet as I am in the room with the mrs and television02:18
claydohbut skype is kewl02:19
apacheloggerwe should do this more often02:21
claydohapachelogger: agreed it is quite nice to hear people, put voices with faces (amd texts)02:22
nixternalyou guys have video running too?02:32
apacheloggerintarwebs sex02:32
nixternalwonder how skype would work on the cr-4802:32
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: are you coming to hungry actually?02:32
JontheEchidnawhat's in Hungary02:32
apacheloggerok this is cracking me up02:33
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: uds02:33
JontheEchidnaIs that UDS-O?02:33
apacheloggerin the cities of buda and pest02:33
JontheEchidnaI'll try02:34
valorieheh, now youtube is being not only silent, but plays doublefast02:41
valorieI think i'll uninstall skype!02:41
* apachelogger is dying here02:43
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* apachelogger wonders where JontheEchidna go03:06
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I was wondering why nobody was talking03:06
JontheEchidnamaybe I got disconnected and it didn't tell me03:06
JontheEchidnalol, now my mic is broken in windows :(03:08
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/545804/03:12
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/Faithless%20-%2010%20-%20Take%20The%20Long%20Way%20Home.mp303:16
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: do you have the song now?03:18
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: setting up windows media player now03:19
apacheloggerget vlc03:19
apacheloggeras a matter of fact phonon is probably going to use vlc as the xplatform backend recommendation03:19
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/09%20-%20Hey%20Boy%20Hey%20Girl.ogg03:20
rbelemapachelogger, ping03:23
apacheloggerrbelem: pong03:24
rbelemapachelogger, http://paste.ubuntu.com/545809/03:24
rbelemapachelogger, a draft of a script to generate debian/copyright03:25
rbelemapachelogger, only works with cpp and GPL LGPL03:26
rbelemapachelogger, what do you think?03:26
rbelemapachelogger, it needs better license detection algorithm03:27
apacheloggerrbelem: need a library written in ruby :D03:30
rbelemapachelogger, i hate maintain debian/copyright file, that's why i'm writing this script03:30
rbelemapachelogger, :-)03:30
apacheloggerrbelem: in ruby please03:31
rbelemapachelogger, never wrote something in ruby before03:37
apacheloggerrbelem: about time then :)03:40
rbelemapachelogger, but why ruby?03:41
apacheloggerrbelem: cause I love ruby :)03:41
apacheloggerrbelem: or bash03:41
apacheloggerbash is ultimate03:41
* rbelem is going to bed03:52
rbelemapachelogger, g'night03:52
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: are you still with us?03:53
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: yup03:53
JontheEchidnajust a bit quiet ;-)03:54
JontheEchidnamy mic seems to have stopped working, though03:55
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: say hello03:55
JontheEchidnaskype says it can't access my videocard and that I should restart. brb03:56
JontheEchidnarestart skype, not the whole computer03:56
apacheloggerit is windows :D03:57
danttiapachelogger: still up!? gnight then :P03:57
JontheEchidnaha, it's not starting. maybe I should try rebooting and see if that will fix it :P03:57
apacheloggerdantti: nini :)03:58
JontheEchidnahrm, it's not restarting either :s03:58
JontheEchidnawindows is teh broke03:58
danttiapachelogger: btw update me if pk catalogs still doesn't work for you..03:58
valoriesorry I didn't get to chat and laugh and sing with everyone03:59
valorieI'll work on the skype problems later03:59
valorieI promise03:59
apacheloggerdantti: ok :)03:59
danttivalorie: buy an usb phone :)03:59
valoriewell, I actually have a set of earphone/mic thingies04:00
valorieI'll try that04:00
valorieit's uncomfortable, but at least it keeps out ambient noise04:00
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: we are talking about racism and homophobia and stuff04:03
apacheloggeralso I am smarter04:04
JontheEchidnawhere'd my audio go?04:05
valoriedang it, I'm missing it04:10
valoriemy kind of discussion04:10
valorieanyone know obse_scq ?04:11
valorieI don't allow random people04:11
JontheEchidnawe definitely need to do that more often04:58
JontheEchidnabrb, booting back into lunix05:00
muesliapachelogger: sup05:06
apacheloggermuesli: nvm05:06
apacheloggerI think I will go to bed soonish05:07
apacheloggermuesli: markey and I were wondering whether you want to join skype05:07
apacheloggerbut since it is getting late05:07
apacheloggeror early....05:07
muesliheh :)05:07
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: at the least I had a proper headset this time. Last time I was speaking into a headphone plugged in to the microphone jack :P05:10
JontheEchidnamust have been over a year ago last time we did this05:10
muesliapachelogger: got some users calling you?05:16
apacheloggerno just markey and me right now05:16
mueslioh well, maybe next time. would have to find my headset in some box, since i just moved :-/05:17
apacheloggermuesli: where did you move to?05:19
mueslijust within germany. sold house, moved into a flat05:19
apacheloggergermany :D05:20
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shadeslayerzomg party on thursday!09:50
shadeslayerin other news, sandsmark is busy getting bookmark sync to rekonq09:50
shadeslayersomething i really wanted to do09:51
shadeslayeroh noes ... Python 2.7 transition going on ... i chose a very bad time to upgrade :/09:52
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danttiRiddell: ping13:29
Riddellhi dantti 13:44
danttiRiddell: hi, I have a problem with kpk :/ and would like to know what would be the best fix13:50
Riddelldantti: what's up?13:50
danttiRiddell: to work around a bug I made a copy of kdialog (the bad idea), and now with kdelibs 4.6 it turns out that it is crashing :(13:50
danttiso what would be best have a mav-updates without this kdialog class or when 4.6 is on backports have kpk there too?13:51
Riddelldantti: we can put an updated or patched version in kubuntu-ppa/beta alongside 4.613:52
Riddellas well as in natty13:52
danttiI think tomorow I'll release a new version 0.6.3 with some bug fixes and some minor fixes, so maybe it could go alongside as you said (instead of the patched version)13:53
dantti*minor features13:53
Riddellyes we can get than in easily enough13:54
danttiRiddell: go thanks :) now I have to finish it and ask fedora and suse to update too :(13:55
danttinext time I'll be more carefull when coping kde libs stuff13:55
danttiRiddell: Ah almost forgot there's a new patch for aptcc LP bug#69147413:57
Riddelldantti: ok will look shortly14:00
ScottKshadeslayer: Are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce?  If not, you'd have known about that one.14:23
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Quintasanshadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/A0UeF.png14:30
Quintasanpure madness14:30
QuintasanScottK: Any idea where kcm-touchpad should show up when one uses KDE 4.4.5?14:44
CIA-39[libqapt] jmthomas * 1208067 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/globals.h SVN_SILENT: Fix a typo in the apidox14:54
ScottKQuintasan: Shouldn't be any different than it was with 4.4.2, but my laptop is Maverick, so I can't check (Lucid systems here are all desktops)14:54
CIA-39[muon] jmthomas * 1208070 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (9 files in 5 dirs) Misc. krazy2 fixes15:10
Quintasanapachelogger: ping15:10
Quintasanapachelogger: nvm, knowing me this won't work anyway, is there a guide/manual/how to debug crashes in Qt applications?15:10
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droidslayerQuintasan: lol15:15
droidslayerQuintasan: use gdb15:17
steveireIs there any chance of getting cmake 2.6.3 into Maverick? http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=9414 Causes kdevelop cmake parsing to be unrealistically slow to parse any project which uses zlib (kdelibs, pim etc)15:17
steveirecmake 2.8.3 *15:17
droidslayerQuintasan: gdb appname -> run from gdb shell - > crash -> backtrace 15:18
steveireSee also http://itk.org/Bug/view.php?id=1104915:19
droidslayerBacktrace as in type backtrace on gdb shell15:19
ScottKsteveire: As a general rule no.  If there's a patch we can backport to fix that problem, that's probably doable.  Getting the entire release in is unlikely unless that's about the only change in it.15:20
Riddellit could go into backports for a quick fix15:20
Riddellalthough it needs to get into natty first15:20
steveireHmm, well I don't know enough about the problem, but I'll see if I can find something cherry-pickable15:21
Quintasandroidslayer: cool story bro, however I'm not sure if I can understand this :O15:22
steveireHmm, looks like it is indeed.15:23
droidslayerQuintasan: its quite easy really15:23
Quintasandroidslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/545978/15:23
droidslayerSo I hear Europe is buried in snow15:24
Quintasandroidslayer: +4*C in here15:24
droidslayerQuintasan: exception to my statement :-P15:26
Quintasandroidslayer: and I'm crazy enough to want to fix this15:27
droidslayerQuintasan: now read the backtrace from line 24..  it will show the last function called at. the top and at the bottom you see the eventloop 15:27
Quintasan#31 0x00007ffff7aa7362 in QEventLoop::processEvents (this=<value optimized out>, flags=...)15:29
Quintasan    at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:14915:29
steveirebug 69259515:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 692595 in cmake (Ubuntu) "zlib.h version fix should be cherry-picked" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69259515:29
droidslayerThat's the qt eventloop afaik15:29
droidslayerGo to line 24...  that's where your program crashes15:30
Quintasandroidslayer: line 24 of the paste or #24 at backtrace? :P15:30
droidslayerLine 24 of paste :-P15:31
Quintasan#0  0x00007ffff3f66ba5 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.615:31
Quintasanit starts here15:31
JontheEchidnaLine 5 of the paste is where the problem is at15:31
JontheEchidnait's trying to get an element in a QList past the end of the QList15:31
JontheEchidnaASSERT failure in QList<T>::at: "index out of range",15:31
JontheEchidnain the QtEmuEnvironment::getVersion() function15:31
QuintasanJontheEchidna: and how can I check where in the source this might occur?15:32
droidslayerJontheEchidna: so like...  accessing stuff beyond a array?15:32
JontheEchidnalook for the .at() function being used in that function15:32
JontheEchidnadroidslayer: yes15:32
droidslayerJontheEchidna: isn't the backtrace supposed to say that?  Why is it after run?15:33
JontheEchidnalines 0-4 say that it raised an assert15:33
CIA-39[muon] jmthomas * 1208073 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (9 files in 9 dirs) Various string fixes15:33
JontheEchidnaand the assert appears in th command line output15:33
droidslayerWhat's a assert?15:34
JontheEchidnait catches situations that aren't supposed to happen15:35
QuintasanJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/545984/15:35
JontheEchidnaso that it can crash a bit more gracefully (in this case without actually trying to access memory past the qlist)15:35
QuintasanJontheEchidna: is line 107 the problematic one?15:35
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: yes15:36
JontheEchidnamost likely the findVersion process didn't return a proper version line15:36
JontheEchidnato fix this, I'd check the size of the infoStringList has 5 or not, and return an empty string if it doesn't since there's probably an error15:37
QuintasanJontheEchidna: versionString = infoStringList.at(5);15:38
Quintasanwhat is the .at(5) doing?15:38
JontheEchidnataking the 6th string in the infoStringList15:39
droidslayerYep ^^15:39
Quintasanand if it doesn't exists it makes our app crash niceley15:39
ScottKsteveire: Looking into it.15:40
* Quintasan just noticed his C++ ability is actually useless15:40
QuintasanJontheEchidna: How do I check for the size of something? sizeof()?15:40
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: for QList, either size() or count() will work15:40
droidslayerQuintasan: read api docs dude15:41
droidslayerQt has amazing docs15:41
Quintasandroidslayer: too much bother to do this :P15:41
JontheEchidnaI'd check the size right before doign any at() stuff, and return QString() if the size is not correct15:41
droidslayerI actually have the api docs installed :-D15:42
JontheEchidnabbiab, walking the dog15:42
droidslayerrbelem: congrats!!  ...  but for what :-P15:43
Quintasandroidslayer: would something trivial as if ((int) infoStringList.size() == 5) { /*something here*/ } work in this case?15:43
droidslayerNo need for int there I think15:44
droidslayerBut apart from that....  it should work15:44
droidslayerAdd a else case when that comparison fails15:45
rbelemdroidslayer, my son born almost two weeks ago :-)15:46
droidslayerrbelem: congrats!!!15:46
droidslayerNow I have to go and study....  :-D15:48
droidslayerQuintasan: have fun... ;-)15:48
Quintasandroidslayer: I'm not sure if I understand this :P15:48
droidslayerQuintasan: what part?15:49
Quintasanchecking for size15:49
hrwhi guys15:49
Quintasanwell, I know how to check for the size but I'm not sure what I should return in case it fails15:49
ScottKHello hrw15:50
droidslayerQuintasan: JontheEchidna said qstring()15:50
hrwkdebugdialog has "Disable add debug output" checked.15:50
hrwso it should not generate any noise - right?15:50
Quintasandroidslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/54598815:50
Quintasanlike this?15:50
hrw16:50 hrw@home:~$ ll /tmp/xsession-hrw  /tmp/fileoribE7  -h15:50
hrw-rw------- 1 hrw hrw 3,9G 2010-12-20 16:50 /tmp/fileoribE715:50
hrwlrwxrwxrwx 1 hrw hrw   15 2010-12-20 11:45 /tmp/xsession-hrw -> /tmp/fileoribE715:50
droidslayerQuintasan: more like return QString()15:51
* hrw -> vt1 to killall kde to get 4GB of /tmp/ back15:52
droidslayerQuintasan: ok bye....  need2study... :-P15:53
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: if (infoStringList.size() != 6) { return QString(); }15:53
Riddellhrw: why do you have a massive xsession file in /tmp ?15:53
hrwRiddell: maybe because ~/.xsession-errors -> /dev/null?15:54
hrwRiddell: I got 25GB ~/.xsession-errors15:54
hrwfull of kde noise15:54
hrwwith kdebugdialog with 'disable add debug output' set15:55
CIA-39[muon] jmthomas * 1208079 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/DownloadModel/DownloadDelegate.cpp Consistency for context messages15:56
hrwhttp://pastebin.com/8JYqsyMH is contents of current file15:56
hrwI just restarted x1115:56
hrw/bin/sh: LC_ALL: nie znaleziono polecenia15:56
hrwSystem plików            rozm. użyte dost. %uż. zamont. na15:57
hrwnone                  3,9G     -     -   -  /tmp15:57
Riddellhrw: I'm not convinced it's listening to that disable all debug output tickbox15:57
Riddellhrw: are any of the individual tickboxes ticked?15:57
hrwRiddell: yes15:57
hrwops, no - none are ticked15:57
* hrw -> vt1 again. this will will use "kill -9" on k* tasks15:58
Riddelldon't have a mysterious second copy of kdelibs around that would explain why it's ignoring the normal settings?15:58
QuintasanJontheEchidna: hope this works, thanks15:58
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: at worst, whatever is wanting the version will get an empty string, so if there is a GUI label wanting to display that it might be empty, but it shouldn't crash15:59
QuintasanThat should be enough16:00
QuintasanQtEmu is as good as dead16:00
hrwRiddell: nope16:00
QuintasanI think noone cares about this anymore but I kinda like it.16:00
JontheEchidnait appears to still be in alpha16:00
QuintasanJontheEchidna: it's in alpha since 2009 and I don't think I saw any new commits16:01
hrwok. time to kill nepomuk and forget that it exists again + teach akonadi about remote cals16:01
CIA-39[libqapt] jmthomas * 1208082 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/CMakeLists.txt Version bump for impending 1.0.90 (1.1 beta2) release16:01
CIA-39[muon] jmthomas * 1208083 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (installer/main.cpp muon/main.cpp updater/main.cpp) Version bump for impending 1.0.90 (1.1 beta2) release16:02
hrw[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(26211)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot remove the empty context"16:02
QuintasanJontheEchidna: it seems that we're not allowed to use a return there16:02
Quintasan/tmp/buildd/qtemu-2.0~alpha1/qtemuenvironment.cpp:85:54: error: return-statement with a value, in function returning 'void'16:03
hrwone source of noise less. some apps will complain now about lack of nepomuk ;(16:03
JontheEchidnathen just return;, returning nothing16:03
QuintasanJontheEchidna: instead of return QString();?16:03
JontheEchidnaright, just return;16:03
JontheEchidnathough that means that it is a pretty useless function16:04
ScottKhrw: nepomuk is (for better or for worse) not considered optional, so it's not suprising there are complaints.16:04
Quintasanwell, if it fixes something then it is not useless :P16:04
JontheEchidnaoh, unless versionChecked is a class member variable16:04
JontheEchidnayeah, that code is using bad style by not differentiating between local and member variables16:05
hrwScottK: I can symlink ~/.xsession-errors to /media/storage - there should be ~300GB free. but this space will end in few days due to nepomuk..16:05
QuintasanJontheEchidna: one thing, any idea why sudo makes pbuilder use /root/.pbuilderrc instead of mine?16:05
JontheEchidnabecause sudo is running it as root? I dunno16:05
ScottKNot much we can do about nepmuk's requiredness at a distro level.16:05
ScottKQuintasan: It's because environment handling with sudo changed in natty.16:06
QuintasanJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/545991 not sure what to do with this16:06
QuintasanScottK: oh, I just copied my .pbuilderrc to /root and it worked :P16:06
hrwnow time to reinstall kdepim-dbg and report useless report bug against akonadi/kcal16:06
QuintasanJontheEchidna: where do I put this, in CMakeLists.txt?16:07
hrwbtw - do I have to restart X11 session to make akonadi use akonadi-dbg for resolving symbols?16:09
ScottKYou shouldn't16:10
QuintasanJontheEchidna: it has some lines like ${QT_QTCORE_LIBRARY} . I assume ${QT_QTNETWORK_LIBRARY} will do just fine16:10
ScottKcmake 2.8.3 FTBFS  in Natty due to linker problems.  If the build system explains why, I'm missing it.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/545992/ - Suggestions welcome.16:11
* Quintasan <3 libeatmydata in pbuilder16:12
QuintasanJontheEchidna: awesome, it built16:13
Quintasanomfg it works16:14
QuintasanJontheEchidna: <316:14
Quintasancookies for JontheEchidna16:14
QuintasanJontheEchidna: http://i.imgur.com/AT5G2.png16:15
Quintasanit works though16:16
QuintasanIf I have some time in future I will fix this16:17
QuintasanJontheEchidna: that's just a temporary fix and I think I could fix it and then upload it16:18
Quintasanin case someone still uses QtEmu16:18
QuintasanScottK: installing at updating Lucid16:19
ScottKQuintasan: Cool.16:19
* Quintasan looks for his long-forgotten ICQ number16:19
QuintasanScottK: we want to know if ICQ basically works?16:20
ScottKQuintasan: Yes.  Becuase the 4.4.5 upload subsumed an exisiting SRU for fixing that.16:20
ScottKQuintasan: We also need general feedback on how all of KDE SC works.16:20
* Quintasan is not sure what subsumed means but that's a sure nice word16:21
QuintasanScottK: Great, I think I will report back today16:21
QuintasanUnless my ISP decides to do something with their hardware today -_-16:21
ScottKQuintasan: Good.  Feedback needs to be in the bug where ubuntu-sru will see it.16:21
QuintasanScottK: Could you give me the bug #?16:22
ScottKQuintasan: https://launchpad.net/bugs/69106816:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 691068 in oxygen-icons (Ubuntu Lucid) "SRU tracking bug for KDE 4.4.5/8 update in Lucid" [Undecided,Fix committed]16:22
hrwhttp://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1207304 - can someone backport it to 4.4.8 kdepim?16:25
ScottKhrw: 4.4.9 is coming out in a week or two, IIRC.16:26
hrwScottK: ok16:27
hrwI am starting to consider mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-backup (+ same for nepomuk/akonadi/whatever kde4 uses)16:34
hrwakonadi complains when nepomuk is not running. nepomuk uses soprano and generates insane amount of crap debugs16:34
hrw[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(32465)" Soprano: "SQLExecDirect failed on query 'sparql insert into graph <urn:nepomuk:local:3aa5381c-c593-4678-b1aa-111c02308128> { <mailto:david.gilbert@linaro.org> <http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2007/03/22/nco#emailAddress> "david.gilbert@linaro.org"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string> . }' (iODBC Error: [OpenLink][Virtuoso iODBC Driver][Virtuoso Server]SR014: F16:35
hrwI am starting to fear akonadi powered kdepim16:35
ScottKhrw: We plan to be careful about moving to it as default.16:37
hrwScottK: at one moment we will have to as upstream will stop maintain 4.4 branch16:37
hrwI do not want to go to claws-mail or evolution/thunderbird.16:38
ScottKhrw: Yes, but our current plan for Natty is to have kdepim as default and kdepim2 in universe for crazy people.16:38
ScottKSo that gives it another half-year to get better.16:38
hrwbut I have a strange feeling that in 2011 I will start to move from kde to anything else16:38
ScottKLet's hope not16:39
hrwamount of subsystems starts to be scary. add amount of subsystem names... soprano, nepomuk, akonadi which needs each other and cant cope if any fails in strange way. nothing gives informations 'look: XYZ failed to do ABC on DFG' - few hundred lines of debug output instead16:40
hrwSolid still calls hal?16:40
hrwQStringList Solid::Backends::Hal::HalManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type)  error:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" 16:41
ScottKhrw: Shouldn't if you don't have it installed.16:43
ScottKWhine to upstream about that one.16:43
hrwyep, will do16:43
* hrw -> bugs.kde.org to flood16:44
Quintasananyone running KDE in KVM?16:47
ScottKre: my earlier problem of cmake 2.8.3 failing to build a link time on Natty, 2.8.2 links fine.16:48
RiddellScottK: mm?  I just built it fine16:49
ScottKRiddell: OK.  It's possible I ran out of disk space at that moment.  I was close.16:49
RiddellI synced it from debian too16:50
Riddellbuilding it on maverick now16:50
ScottKI'll do steveire's SRU then.16:50
RiddellScottK: SRU with what?16:50
ScottKRiddell: He found a one line change that fixes the problem16:50
ScottKRiddell: See Bug #69259516:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 692595 in cmake (Ubuntu Natty) "zlib.h version fix should be cherry-picked" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69259516:51
hrwkde bug 260809 16:51
Quintasanstd vga driver is kinda slow16:51
ubottuKDE bug 260809 in general "[regression] Rename window does not give easy way to just rename tab" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26080916:51
RiddellScottK: ah hah, clever steveire 16:51
RiddellScottK: I may as well do the backport anyway for the other 2.8.3 changes16:52
ScottKRiddell: I'm fine with a backport, but I think this is SRU worthy.  I've about got the testbuild done.16:52
steveireIt wasn't all my work, but I'll happily take all the credit :)16:52
RiddellScottK: yep16:52
ScottKsteveire: Sometimes knowing who to ask is the most important thing.16:53
QuintasanScottK: upgrading16:53
hrwkde bug 167852 is fun ;(16:57
ubottuKDE bug 167852 in xinerama "Panels on shared screen edges not included in strut area" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16785216:57
Quintasanhmm, the upgrade will take a while, I'm going to do my homewok then16:59
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Riddelldantti: can you check the debdiff on bug 691474 is ok?  it missed out one hunk of the patch which doesn't seem to be relevant for 0.6.817:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 691474 in packagekit (Ubuntu Maverick) "Installed Software Partly Displayed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69147417:42
Riddelldantti: also could you add a comment with a test case for verification?17:42
shadeslayerScottK: i think im subscribed to that one, but i might have missed it under the ton of bug mail17:45
* ScottK gives Riddell a little whack for ~ppa1 versions in the archive (kdevelop).18:04
ScottKGlad to see it in though.18:04
ScottKRiddell: Did you sort out the packagekit build failure yet?  If not, I was going to ask a mozillaish person to look at it.  I'm sure it's their fault somehow.18:05
RiddellScottK: I've got a cold today, bad concentration, kdevelop's versioning is the victim18:11
ScottKRiddell: Understand.  We've all done it a time or two.18:11
Riddell"checking for PK_BROWSER_PLUGIN... no"  needs digging in to find out what the check is there18:14
Riddellit's not fixed anyway18:14
QuintasanScottK: Oh god, this is next to impossible, ICQ somehow doesn't show me any account number and tells me to use my email address, and Kopete won't let you type letters there :)18:55
ScottKSigh.  That's not good.18:55
ScottKapachelogger: ^^^ Help.18:55
ScottKQuintasan: How's the rest?18:56
QuintasanWell, Kinda works18:56
QuintasanEverything's fine, the performance is good for for a kvm machine18:56
ScottKICQ broken is not a regression, so we can leave that for the moment.18:56
QuintasanIf I stumble upon something I will let you know.18:56
ScottKPlease put the positive report in the bug.18:57
Quintasaninstalling restricted extras works18:57
ScottKRiddell: micahg is going to have a look at the mozilla bits of packagekit later tonight.18:57
ScottKkdevelop FTBFS on armel is just archive skew.  I'll retry it in ~45 minutes19:00
ScottKnixternal: Can haz powerpc?19:02
QuintasanScottK: well, I your UNI is your profile number, but I kind of can't login19:03
QuintasanSays password is wrong19:03
QuintasanI'm going to do my homework first19:06
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barrapontoare there packages for the latest beta of kdevelop/kdevplatform ?20:25
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ScottKnixternal: Nevermind.  Found the same problem on arm, so trying with that hardware.21:19
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danttiRiddell: the debdiff seems fine, and the test case if just install his bank .deb file23:52

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