[00:06] dantti: I used to be a apackager [00:06] yofel: then you can start now [00:06] dantti: apachelogger [00:07] dantti: markey, markey: dantti [00:13] dantti: I think my packagekit is just broken [00:13] apachelogger: yeah probably... [00:13] apachelogger: does that file installs amor? [00:13] valorie: hello [00:14] valorie: helloooooooo [00:14] dantti: didnt try [00:14] * apachelogger cant write and talk [00:14] * apachelogger can listen and type [00:21] piffle, trying to install skype again [00:21] it's always been easy, and now I can't find it [00:23] heh, apt-get comes through [00:24] silly kpackagekit [00:24] :( [00:25] oh [00:25] do not bash the kpk [00:25] its not kpks fault that it is not javaware [00:30] dantti: dude! === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal [00:43] stupid freenode [00:48] nixternal: wanna skype [00:48] ? [00:48] we are having a development session [00:48] for what? you gonna talk dirty to me or something? [00:49] i would if i would be of any good, but i am afraid i am not longer of any good [00:49] nixternal: come on [00:49] nixternal: what is your skype id? [00:52] the fact that you would ask what my id/handle is is proof enough that i am no longer of any good :) [00:54] nixternal: that's the point [00:55] nixternal: start your skype you blueheaded stepchild [00:55] as a matter of fact you are in my contact list [00:55] only skype's filter did not work [00:56] apachelogger: sure [00:57] nixternal isn't blueheaded!! [00:57] (is he?) [00:59] JontheEchidna: why are you not answering your phone? [00:59] I just logged in [00:59] oh, unless I left my work computer on when I left friday [00:59] apparently you did [00:59] oh [00:59] hmm, my mic isn't working [01:01] I'm going to try to get my mic working, so I'll hang up for a bit [01:03] ok [01:06] I don't get it. It should work :( [01:07] use the pulseaudio control [01:07] pavcontrol [01:08] not using PA [01:08] oh [01:08] that is your problem then [01:08] valorie doesnt either [01:08] because she always flames it [01:08] with pa it works just fine [01:08] I can't, since PA breaks jacksense [01:08] you do not need jacksense [01:08] now [01:08] do you? [01:08] * apachelogger does not even know that [01:08] * apachelogger only wrote alsa, pa, phonon and amarok [01:09] * apachelogger is the master of all audio [01:09] yes, otherwise people can hear things coming out of my speakers even if I have headphones plugged ing [01:09] sorta renders the point of headphones useless [01:09] (jack sense isn't a software) [01:10] odd [01:13] brb [01:13] haha, love watching the sound issues. i remember these same issues 5 years ago too [01:16] nixternal: can you go online now? [01:16] i am online, i am here talking to you aren't I/ [01:16] lol, look what kmix let me do: http://i.imgur.com/73GLL.png [01:17] nixternal: in the skype [01:17] what will i or others get from me being on skype? [01:17] JontheEchidna: that is usability right there [01:17] no buttons ... [01:17] ultimate usability [01:17] that is almost ubuntuesque [01:17] nothing to do wrong [01:18] apachelogger: nor right [01:22] ironically, my webcam works without doing anything [01:25] nixternal: skype? [01:37] apachelogger: methinks my laptop is a bit broken - I am dohbuoy in skype [01:37] oh [01:37] go tweak some settings then [01:37] let's see if this works on windows [01:37] bad sound, perhaps my speakers AND my headphone jack :( [01:37] JontheEchidna: how is your tweaking coming along? [01:38] trying windows now [01:38] if you had an n900 you could use that [01:38] ... [01:38] ;) [01:38] ;-) [01:39] * claydoh contemplates stealing my wifes phone lol [01:40] apachelogger: liar! I'm using PA [01:40] and I don't flame it [01:40] I just reset everything in pavucontrol and it looks like my mic should work [01:40] but unless you are being flooded by The 6ths [01:40] it isn't [01:40] valorie: ask the nice testing person [01:41] it worked in 10.04, with pa [01:42] use mac osx [01:42] or beos [01:43] apachelogger: got it working with windows [01:43] plz call [01:44] claydoh: markey, markey: claydoh [01:45] claydoh: hey :) [01:45] nice to meet you [01:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FFHgDD21MI&feature=channel [01:46] apachelogger: no, we do *not* want to see videos of your boner [01:46] sorry. [01:46] markey: hello :) [01:47] for an hour plus, you all have been messing with audio to have a meeting...oh lord :p [01:47] if you have an android phone, just throw skype on it and be done with it already [01:47] nixternal: I didn't have to fiddle, I ma lucky [01:48] oh, saw something about bad sound from ya [01:48] claydoh: too much :D [01:48] nixternal: crappy laptop, pluggd in working headphones [01:49] muesli: ping [01:50] claydoh: Mamarok, Mamarok: claydoh [01:50] silly [01:50] silly silly [01:50] this is getting silly [01:50] stop it immediately [01:50] muhahaha [01:50] monty python <3 [01:52] claydoh: you are making weird noise [01:58] nixternal: ping pin [01:58] g [01:58] we are talking about richards.... [01:58] you could rule them all [01:58] if only you joined [02:07] I'm going to quit -- it's just torture to see that someone's talking, and not be able to hear [02:07] :( [02:07] maybe another time, after a restart or something [02:15] award <---- [02:15] \o/ [02:16] my wife thinks I am wierd [02:17] or rather wierder for chatting online w/skype [02:17] the guy here just said so too [02:17] luddite she is, with her galaxy S smartphone and all :( [02:17] claydoh: also you are weird :P [02:17] apachelogger: sure :) [02:18] used to get at least an hour out of my battery, Skype must suck it dry [02:18] now I have to be quiet as I am in the room with the mrs and television [02:19] but skype is kewl [02:21] we should do this more often [02:22] apachelogger: agreed it is quite nice to hear people, put voices with faces (amd texts) [02:32] you guys have video running too? [02:32] yeah [02:32] intarwebs sex [02:32] nice [02:32] wonder how skype would work on the cr-48 [02:32] JontheEchidna: are you coming to hungry actually? [02:32] erm [02:32] hungary [02:32] ;) [02:32] what's in Hungary [02:33] ok this is cracking me up [02:33] JontheEchidna: uds [02:33] Is that UDS-O? [02:33] in the cities of buda and pest [02:33] aye [02:34] I'll try [02:34] wohooo [02:41] heh, now youtube is being not only silent, but plays doublefast [02:41] I think i'll uninstall skype! [02:43] * apachelogger is dying here === starcraft is now known as starcraftman === apachelogger is now known as fdsafdsafdsafdsa === JontheEchidna is now known as zxvczxvczxvc === zxvczxvczxvc is now known as JontheEchidna === fdsafdsafdsafdsa is now known as darthlulu === JontheEchidna is now known as darthmittens === darthmittens is now known as JontheEchidna === darthlulu is now known as apachelogger [03:06] * apachelogger wonders where JontheEchidna go [03:06] apachelogger: I was wondering why nobody was talking [03:06] maybe I got disconnected and it didn't tell me [03:07] sec [03:08] lol, now my mic is broken in windows :( [03:08] :O [03:08] reboot? [03:12] JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/545804/ [03:16] JontheEchidna: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/Faithless%20-%2010%20-%20Take%20The%20Long%20Way%20Home.mp3 [03:18] JontheEchidna: do you have the song now? [03:19] apachelogger: setting up windows media player now [03:19] :D [03:19] get vlc [03:19] as a matter of fact phonon is probably going to use vlc as the xplatform backend recommendation [03:20] JontheEchidna: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/09%20-%20Hey%20Boy%20Hey%20Girl.ogg [03:23] apachelogger, ping [03:24] rbelem: pong [03:24] apachelogger, http://paste.ubuntu.com/545809/ [03:25] apachelogger, a draft of a script to generate debian/copyright [03:26] apachelogger, only works with cpp and GPL LGPL [03:26] apachelogger, what do you think? [03:27] apachelogger, it needs better license detection algorithm [03:30] rbelem: need a library written in ruby :D [03:30] apachelogger, i hate maintain debian/copyright file, that's why i'm writing this script [03:30] apachelogger, :-) [03:31] rbelem: in ruby please [03:37] apachelogger, never wrote something in ruby before [03:40] rbelem: about time then :) [03:41] apachelogger, but why ruby? [03:41] rbelem: cause I love ruby :) [03:41] rbelem: or bash [03:41] hahahaha! [03:41] bash is ultimate [03:52] * rbelem is going to bed [03:52] apachelogger, g'night [03:53] JontheEchidna: are you still with us? [03:53] apachelogger: yup [03:53] ok [03:54] ^^ [03:54] just a bit quiet ;-) [03:55] my mic seems to have stopped working, though [03:55] JontheEchidna: say hello [03:56] skype says it can't access my videocard and that I should restart. brb [03:56] :P [03:56] reboot [03:56] restart skype, not the whole computer [03:57] it is windows :D [03:57] :D [03:57] apachelogger: still up!? gnight then :P [03:57] ha, it's not starting. maybe I should try rebooting and see if that will fix it :P [03:58] dantti: nini :) [03:58] hrm, it's not restarting either :s [03:58] windows is teh broke [03:58] apachelogger: btw update me if pk catalogs still doesn't work for you.. [03:59] sorry I didn't get to chat and laugh and sing with everyone [03:59] I'll work on the skype problems later [03:59] I promise [03:59] dantti: ok :) [03:59] valorie: buy an usb phone :) [04:00] well, I actually have a set of earphone/mic thingies [04:00] I'll try that [04:00] it's uncomfortable, but at least it keeps out ambient noise [04:03] JontheEchidna: we are talking about racism and homophobia and stuff [04:04] also I am smarter [04:04] ;) [04:05] where'd my audio go? [04:10] dang it, I'm missing it [04:10] :( [04:10] my kind of discussion [04:11] anyone know obse_scq ? [04:11] I don't allow random people [04:58] we definitely need to do that more often [05:00] brb, booting back into lunix [05:06] apachelogger: sup [05:06] muesli: nvm [05:07] I think I will go to bed soonish [05:07] muesli: markey and I were wondering whether you want to join skype [05:07] but since it is getting late [05:07] or early.... [05:07] heh :) [05:10] apachelogger: at the least I had a proper headset this time. Last time I was speaking into a headphone plugged in to the microphone jack :P [05:10] must have been over a year ago last time we did this [05:12] :DDD [05:16] apachelogger: got some users calling you? [05:16] no just markey and me right now [05:17] oh well, maybe next time. would have to find my headset in some box, since i just moved :-/ [05:19] muesli: where did you move to? [05:19] just within germany. sold house, moved into a flat [05:20] ooh [05:20] germany :D [05:20] nice === fenris is now known as Guest79815 === Guest79815 is now known as ejat === jussi01_ is now known as jussi === hunger_ is now known as hunger === fenris is now known as Guest75398 [09:50] zomg party on thursday! [09:50] wheee [09:50] in other news, sandsmark is busy getting bookmark sync to rekonq [09:51] something i really wanted to do [09:51] :( [09:52] oh noes ... Python 2.7 transition going on ... i chose a very bad time to upgrade :/ === AndChat- is now known as droidslayer === droidslayer is now known as Guest59845 === drdanz_home is now known as drdanz === fenris is now known as Guest44826 === Guest44826 is now known as ejat [13:29] Riddell: ping [13:44] hi dantti [13:50] Riddell: hi, I have a problem with kpk :/ and would like to know what would be the best fix [13:50] dantti: what's up? [13:50] Riddell: to work around a bug I made a copy of kdialog (the bad idea), and now with kdelibs 4.6 it turns out that it is crashing :( [13:51] so what would be best have a mav-updates without this kdialog class or when 4.6 is on backports have kpk there too? [13:52] dantti: we can put an updated or patched version in kubuntu-ppa/beta alongside 4.6 [13:52] as well as in natty [13:53] I think tomorow I'll release a new version 0.6.3 with some bug fixes and some minor fixes, so maybe it could go alongside as you said (instead of the patched version) [13:53] *minor features [13:54] yes we can get than in easily enough [13:55] Riddell: go thanks :) now I have to finish it and ask fedora and suse to update too :( [13:55] *good [13:55] next time I'll be more carefull when coping kde libs stuff [13:57] Riddell: Ah almost forgot there's a new patch for aptcc LP bug#691474 [14:00] dantti: ok will look shortly [14:00] :) [14:23] shadeslayer: Are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce? If not, you'd have known about that one. === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:30] shadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/A0UeF.png [14:30] pure madness [14:44] ScottK: Any idea where kcm-touchpad should show up when one uses KDE 4.4.5? [14:54] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1208067 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/globals.h SVN_SILENT: Fix a typo in the apidox [14:54] Quintasan: Shouldn't be any different than it was with 4.4.2, but my laptop is Maverick, so I can't check (Lucid systems here are all desktops) [15:10] [muon] jmthomas * 1208070 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (9 files in 5 dirs) Misc. krazy2 fixes [15:10] apachelogger: ping [15:10] apachelogger: nvm, knowing me this won't work anyway, is there a guide/manual/how to debug crashes in Qt applications? === drdanz_home is now known as drdanz [15:15] Quintasan: lol [15:17] Quintasan: use gdb [15:17] Is there any chance of getting cmake 2.6.3 into Maverick? http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=9414 Causes kdevelop cmake parsing to be unrealistically slow to parse any project which uses zlib (kdelibs, pim etc) [15:17] cmake 2.8.3 * [15:18] Quintasan: gdb appname -> run from gdb shell - > crash -> backtrace [15:19] See also http://itk.org/Bug/view.php?id=11049 [15:19] Backtrace as in type backtrace on gdb shell [15:20] steveire: As a general rule no. If there's a patch we can backport to fix that problem, that's probably doable. Getting the entire release in is unlikely unless that's about the only change in it. [15:20] it could go into backports for a quick fix [15:20] although it needs to get into natty first [15:21] Hmm, well I don't know enough about the problem, but I'll see if I can find something cherry-pickable [15:22] droidslayer: cool story bro, however I'm not sure if I can understand this :O [15:23] 0_o [15:23] Hmm, looks like it is indeed. [15:23] Quintasan: its quite easy really [15:23] droidslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/545978/ [15:24] So I hear Europe is buried in snow [15:24] droidslayer: +4*C in here [15:26] Quintasan: exception to my statement :-P [15:27] droidslayer: and I'm crazy enough to want to fix this [15:27] Quintasan: now read the backtrace from line 24.. it will show the last function called at. the top and at the bottom you see the eventloop [15:29] #31 0x00007ffff7aa7362 in QEventLoop::processEvents (this=, flags=...) [15:29] at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:149 [15:29] this? [15:29] bug 692595 [15:29] Launchpad bug 692595 in cmake (Ubuntu) "zlib.h version fix should be cherry-picked" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692595 [15:29] That's the qt eventloop afaik [15:30] Go to line 24... that's where your program crashes [15:30] droidslayer: line 24 of the paste or #24 at backtrace? :P [15:31] Line 24 of paste :-P [15:31] #0 0x00007ffff3f66ba5 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6 [15:31] it starts here [15:31] Line 5 of the paste is where the problem is at [15:31] lol [15:31] it's trying to get an element in a QList past the end of the QList [15:31] ASSERT failure in QList::at: "index out of range", [15:31] in the QtEmuEnvironment::getVersion() function [15:32] JontheEchidna: and how can I check where in the source this might occur? [15:32] ohh [15:32] JontheEchidna: so like... accessing stuff beyond a array? [15:32] look for the .at() function being used in that function [15:32] droidslayer: yes [15:33] JontheEchidna: isn't the backtrace supposed to say that? Why is it after run? [15:33] lines 0-4 say that it raised an assert [15:33] [muon] jmthomas * 1208073 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (9 files in 9 dirs) Various string fixes [15:33] and the assert appears in th command line output [15:34] What's a assert? [15:34] http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cassert/assert/ [15:35] it catches situations that aren't supposed to happen [15:35] JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/545984/ [15:35] so that it can crash a bit more gracefully (in this case without actually trying to access memory past the qlist) [15:35] JontheEchidna: is line 107 the problematic one? [15:36] Quintasan: yes [15:36] Ahhh [15:36] most likely the findVersion process didn't return a proper version line [15:37] to fix this, I'd check the size of the infoStringList has 5 or not, and return an empty string if it doesn't since there's probably an error [15:38] JontheEchidna: versionString = infoStringList.at(5); [15:38] what is the .at(5) doing? [15:39] taking the 6th string in the infoStringList [15:39] Yep ^^ [15:39] and if it doesn't exists it makes our app crash niceley [15:39] nicely* [15:40] right [15:40] steveire: Looking into it. [15:40] Thanks [15:40] * Quintasan just noticed his C++ ability is actually useless [15:40] JontheEchidna: How do I check for the size of something? sizeof()? [15:40] Quintasan: for QList, either size() or count() will work [15:41] Quintasan: read api docs dude [15:41] Qt has amazing docs [15:41] droidslayer: too much bother to do this :P [15:41] :-P [15:41] I'd check the size right before doign any at() stuff, and return QString() if the size is not correct [15:42] I actually have the api docs installed :-D [15:42] bbiab, walking the dog [15:43] rbelem: congrats!! ... but for what :-P [15:43] droidslayer: would something trivial as if ((int) infoStringList.size() == 5) { /*something here*/ } work in this case? [15:44] No need for int there I think [15:44] But apart from that.... it should work [15:45] Add a else case when that comparison fails [15:46] droidslayer, my son born almost two weeks ago :-) [15:46] Ahhh [15:46] rbelem: congrats!!! [15:48] Now I have to go and study.... :-D [15:48] ffff [15:48] Quintasan: have fun... ;-) [15:48] droidslayer: I'm not sure if I understand this :P [15:49] Quintasan: what part? [15:49] checking for size [15:49] hi guys [15:49] well, I know how to check for the size but I'm not sure what I should return in case it fails [15:50] Hello hrw [15:50] Quintasan: JontheEchidna said qstring() [15:50] kdebugdialog has "Disable add debug output" checked. [15:50] so it should not generate any noise - right? [15:50] droidslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/545988 [15:50] like this? [15:50] 16:50 hrw@home:~$ ll /tmp/xsession-hrw /tmp/fileoribE7 -h [15:50] -rw------- 1 hrw hrw 3,9G 2010-12-20 16:50 /tmp/fileoribE7 [15:50] lrwxrwxrwx 1 hrw hrw 15 2010-12-20 11:45 /tmp/xsession-hrw -> /tmp/fileoribE7 [15:51] Quintasan: more like return QString() [15:52] * hrw -> vt1 to killall kde to get 4GB of /tmp/ back [15:53] Quintasan: ok bye.... need2study... :-P [15:53] Quintasan: if (infoStringList.size() != 6) { return QString(); } [15:53] hrw: why do you have a massive xsession file in /tmp ? [15:54] Riddell: maybe because ~/.xsession-errors -> /dev/null? [15:54] Riddell: I got 25GB ~/.xsession-errors [15:54] full of kde noise [15:55] with kdebugdialog with 'disable add debug output' set [15:56] [muon] jmthomas * 1208079 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/DownloadModel/DownloadDelegate.cpp Consistency for context messages [15:56] http://pastebin.com/8JYqsyMH is contents of current file [15:56] I just restarted x11 [15:56] /bin/sh: LC_ALL: nie znaleziono polecenia [15:56] ops [15:57] System plików rozm. użyte dost. %uż. zamont. na [15:57] none 3,9G - - - /tmp [15:57] hrw: I'm not convinced it's listening to that disable all debug output tickbox [15:57] hrw: are any of the individual tickboxes ticked? [15:57] Riddell: yes [15:57] ops, no - none are ticked [15:58] * hrw -> vt1 again. this will will use "kill -9" on k* tasks [15:58]