[03:46] <fujioka> My cursor theme keeps changing from the one I set it to (class black) to the oxygen black theme, though in the "input devices" section under cursor theme it still says classic black is selected.
[03:47] <fujioka> It changes back after reboot, anyone know how to fix this?
[03:50] <fujioka> Nevermind, just found how to change default. Hopefully it'll respect it.
[04:06] <ralph> Hi @ all
[04:08] <ralph> Is it a bug to have 44k files in /var/tmp/kdecache-<user>/http/ ?
[04:09] <ralph> And whats the argumentlist limit for rm * ? it couldnt delete 44k files at once...
[04:14] <gr8m8> that's alot of files...
[04:14] <e_t_> ralph: can you try deleting the http directory with "rm -rf http"? you can always recreate it.
[04:17] <fanfare> e_t_: already deleted it... was just surprised  rm saying "argumentlist too long" or so
[04:18] <fanfare> would you mind checking how many files you have in /var/tmp/kdecache-<user>/http ?
[04:19] <fanfare> i mean i had nearly 3G in there ... more than my download folder :-)
[04:27] <e_t_> fanfare: I've gotten that error before. I don't think it's a bug so much as a program limitation. I've seen suggestions to use xargs. It would be something like "ls|xargs rm" (probably not right, but an example). This would call rm a bunch of times instead of trying to rm a bunch of files at once.
[04:30] <fanfare> e_t_: so even basic shell commands have theyr limits... so 44kis an unusual number of files even under linux...
[04:31] <e_t_> All programs have limits. All computing power is finite, however modern systems are a lot less finite than older ones.
[04:32] <fanfare> e_t_: maybe this is just because its my spare system... the other cpu burned down...
[04:41] <e_t_> If it were hardware, you'd probably get an out-of-memory error. Something like "argument list too long" is programming and you'd get it even on a supercomputer.
[04:46] <fanfare_> thx bb
[04:59] <Poyntz> ayy.. anyone know how to make compisiting enabled on startup?
[04:59] <Poyntz> *compositing
[05:07] <saeia> +
[05:12] <saeia> is there anyway to up gamma in pictures alone?
[05:42] <fish__> trying to install: after lang. screen, goes to start screen. unlike in instructions, there is no "try" and "install options... just "start" ...then it just cranks the hd while screen is black.
[05:44] <fish__> start/check hd/check ram/ boot from 1st hd. those are the options given.
[06:02] <ignerious> i am having a problem with plymouth manager
[06:04] <ignerious> please help
[06:05] <gr8m8> what sort of problem?
[06:08] <ignerious> on starting it ishowing error"21 Out of bounds. Fmain.?.0"
[06:08] <ignerious> it is not starting
[06:08] <ignerious> can you fix it
[06:10] <gr8m8> dunno I'll have a search for the error
[06:12] <gr8m8> nothing returned on that you'll have to get the exact error
[06:15] <ignerious> which version of kubuntu are you using
[06:28] <ignerious> can any one tell me how to change the kubuntu boot splash screen
[08:26] <ubuntu> how to install flash player on Kubuntu
[08:26] <gr8m8> !flash
[08:41] <genewitch> how do i fix the error that sudoers is 0640 and should be 0440?
[08:41] <genewitch> i installed a samba browser that has that problem, and has since before August
[08:41] <genewitch> didn't know prior to installing it though
[08:42] <gr8m8> does   sudo chmod -v 0440 /etc/sudoers   work?
[08:43] <genewitch> no, because i can't use sudo.
[08:43] <genewitch> sudo errors saying sudoers is 0640 instead of 0440
[08:43] <gr8m8> k
[08:44] <genewitch> the only thing i can find online is to do something when grub appears but i never see that. i think my bootloader is broken, i can only boot if the usb stick that i installed from is inserted
[08:45] <gr8m8> sounds like you put grub on the usb
[08:45] <genewitch> is there a grub -install command?
[08:45] <gr8m8> I would try from a live cd to do the chmod
[08:46] <genewitch> if i have to take the time to do that i may as well just reinstall and hopefully fix the other issue
[08:46] <gr8m8> in a terminal do   grub-   and hit the tab key twice to see what grub apps are installed
[08:46] <gr8m8> but you need sudo to run the grub apps
[08:49] <genewitch> yeah i am going to reinstall. a note to maintainers: don't push packages that have the "security vulnerability" flag set on bugtraq.
[08:50] <gr8m8> genewitch: do you have a seperate home partition?
[08:50] <gr8m8> it makes reinstalls easier
[08:50] <genewitch> no, lvm whole disk
[08:50] <gr8m8> ok
[08:50] <genewitch> i'll do that this time though
[08:51] <gr8m8> saves all the configs and dot files in your home folder, bookmarks too
[11:56] <canmatt> anyone hit a problem after an update that rolled out a day or two ago? something like -- kmail: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkabc.so.4: invalid ELF header  ?
[12:01] <canmatt> guess i'll have to ask after work
[12:12] <kosmonaut> hi! How do i search/find a folder in kubuntu...i can find files, texts...but no folders, any ideas?!
[12:14] <kosmonaut> some1 has to explain how I do this folder search ;-)
[12:16] <valorie> kosmonaut: folders are files
[12:17] <valorie> so you can search for the folder name in the file search
[12:17] <valorie> in linux, everything is a file
[12:17] <valorie> or the contents of a file
[12:19] <kosmonaut> valorie: thx...ehm...call me stupid, but I (or nepomuk) does not find the folder calles "Downloads" it finds a looot of thing but not the folder
[12:20] <valorie> ok -- I usually search for files in Dolphin or Konq
[12:21] <valorie> or use the sudo updatedb / locate method
[12:21] <valorie> old fashioned, I guess
[12:21] <valorie> and not smart enough to grep well
[12:22] <kosmonaut> valorie: jupp...well I know about "locate"...but, I want this nepumuk-stuff to work as I want it to ;-)
[12:23] <kosmonaut> valorie: if you use the "semnatic" search in dolphin, do you find folders? Or I am to dumm to do so?
[12:23] <kosmonaut> semantic
[12:25] <cico> hi
[12:25] <valorie> hmmm, I never have done so
[12:26] <valorie> I keep getting the message that indexing has shut down
[12:26] <valorie> so I figure it wouldn't be that good anyway
[12:26] <kosmonaut> valorie: could you try it, please
[12:26] <valorie> also, I pretty much know where things are in my filesystem
[12:26] <kosmonaut> valorie: I DONT :-D
[12:26] <kosmonaut> lol
[12:27] <valorie> Tools > Find File is what I use
[12:27] <valorie> where is the semantic search?
[12:27] <kosmonaut> valorie: in dolphin is a field called "search"
[12:28] <kosmonaut> top right
[12:29] <kosmonaut> valorie: oh...i got it ...Extra->find
[12:29] <kosmonaut> ok...thanks
[12:29] <valorie> hmmm, maybe mine is set up different
[12:31] <valorie> I don't recall doing much configuration......
[12:31] <kosmonaut> valorie: nevermind...i found what I was looking for...
[12:32] <valorie> cool
[12:37] <darthanubis> libkdepim4
[13:01] <darthanubis> Select failed, server replied: A000024 NO Unknown Mailbox: ( now in authenticated state ) ( Failure ) [ Gmail  ]
[13:02] <vmt> Hello all, how can I change the screen resolution on command line?
[13:03] <gr8m8> xrandr to find out your choices then xrandr -s 1280x1024 for example vmt
[13:04] <vmt> thanks Ill try it
[13:40] <j0shu4> :)
[13:46] <darthanubis> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258635
[14:23] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:50] <thiago_> Anyone knows how to put the copy progress dialog back to kubuntu's default?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> thiago_, do you mean in the panel ?
[14:53] <thiago_> yes
[14:53] <thiago_> I installed Colibri notification system
[14:53] <thiago_> but its seems it didnt work after reboot
[14:54] <thiago_> now the progress bar goes in a dialog instead of the integrated system
[14:54] <thiago_> you know what I mean BluesKaj?
[14:54] <thiago_> BluesKaj, ?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> yes thiago_ , but sorry i dunno ,,thought it would be in the widgets , but it's not there
[14:57] <JeroenDeDauw> I have a Kubuntu 10.04 install which for some reason I can't update to 10.10. When I run the dist upgrade, it aborts "with exit code 1". This install is also having problems with installing several apps such as vlc and firefox. Anyone an idea what might be wrong?
[14:57] <James147> JeroenDeDauw: what happens if you run "sudo apt-get update"?
[14:58] <JeroenDeDauw> James147: Not sure, I'm not at this machine right now.
[14:59] <James147> JeroenDeDauw: :S not much I can do then with that infomation sorry :(
[14:59] <BluesKaj> JeroenDeDauw, didt upgrade merely updates kde apps, the new command is , sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:00] <BluesKaj> err dist upgrade
[15:01] <James147> BluesKaj: either way, there appears to be something wrong with apt or dpkg... would be best to fix that before trying an do-release...
[15:02] <BluesKaj> yeah maybe he has ppas that need to be taken out
[15:05] <James147> JeroenDeDauw: It would be helpful if you could come back when your at the computer, otherwise, try running "sudo apt-get update" and see if there are any errors... "sudo apt-get install  -f" may help depending on the problem though
[15:06] <BluesKaj> JeroenDeDauw, have you added any ppa repositories for special applications or driver versions to you sources.list or package manager?
[15:09] <JeroenDeDauw> James147: This is what I get when doing "do-dist-upgrade": http://dpaste.org/KiGg/
[15:10] <JeroenDeDauw> BluesKaj: I installed this Kubuntu a few months back from a cd I just burned then, and it has not been used since (so no special stuff has been added)
[15:11] <BluesKaj> JeroenDeDauw, have you updated since the install?
[15:12] <James147> JeroenDeDauw: I suggest trying to upgrade before trying the do-release "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dost-upgrade"
[15:13] <JeroenDeDauw> James147: I updated everything already via the Kubuntu update GUI thinghy
[15:13] <James147> JeroenDeDauw: also, it if hasent beene used then you might consider a reinstall using a new cd (note if you have a 1gig flash drive space you can use that instead of a cd)
[15:13] <BluesKaj> hehe James147 , grat minds think alike .................. 	 woin't quote the rest :)
[15:14] <BluesKaj> still think you need to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-ger upgrade , JeroenDeDauw
[15:15] <JeroenDeDauw> BluesKaj: sure
[15:15] <BluesKaj> don't copy and paste mine JeroenDeDauw , use James147
[15:15]  * James147 suggest dist-upgrade rather then just upgrade
[15:15] <timo_> hi. looking for help with netbook edition. it seems horribly broken.
[15:16] <James147> Guest2317: would help to know how its "hottibly broken"
[15:18] <timoc> sorry about that
[15:18] <timoc> so yes, broken.
[15:18] <timoc> have an eepc 701. Tried 10 times last night to install it on various configurations.
[15:19] <timoc> livecd boots (from usb stick)  but it does not complete grubconfig properly.
[15:19] <timoc> when i boot up it drops into the default menu option - memtest.
[15:19] <timoc> poke about, and see nothing in /boot/grub, and no kernel or initrs in /boot.
[15:20] <James147> timoc: what version?
[15:20] <timoc> latest (10.04.1) . and yes i checke the md5sum
[15:20] <timoc> netbook dis
[15:20] <timoc> dist
[15:20] <James147> timoc: 10.10 is the latest
[15:20] <James147> (note that 10.10 has the netbook edition rolled into the standard one)
[15:21] <timoc> not where i was looking. http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download -> check the md5 sum list
[15:22] <James147> timoc: yes, here: da50a1ddb22060a2abda6823c9d1148d  kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso
[15:23] <James147> as I said, the netbook edition has been rolled into the desktop version, the installer new detects when you have and chooses... you can switch between them once its installed
[15:23] <timoc> 10.10 being the rolled in, missed that.
[15:24] <timoc> will try that tonight. but none the less 10.04.1 is still broken for me.
[15:25] <James147> timoc: yeah... not entirly sure why
[15:25] <timoc> is this a known issue? the kernel not copying itself to /boot and no grub menu config being created?
[15:25] <James147> havent seen it mentioned before
[15:28] <EvilRoey> hey all
[15:29] <EvilRoey> I hae a setup with an NVidia card and the KDE 4.6 second beta.  How do I make the monitor to the left the primary one?  Right now when I scroll the mouse to the leftmost edge of the left monitor, it wraps to the rightmost edge of the right one.  I'd like to just be able to move the mouse across both desktops through the middle.
[15:30] <EvilRoey> s/hae/have
[15:30] <James147> EvilRoey: "kdesudo nvidia-settings" to configure it... assuming you have the binary drivers insalled
[15:31] <EvilRoey> I did that
[15:31] <EvilRoey> I've tried it with both monitors as primary.. it doesn't chagne anything
[15:32] <James147> EvilRoey: drag the displays
[15:32] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey,  nvidia-xconfig  /
[15:32] <BluesKaj>    /
[15:33] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:33] <EvilRoey> ok got it:
[15:33] <EvilRoey> I dragged the monitor around the other in 'nvidia-settings'
[15:33] <EvilRoey> that worked
[15:33] <BluesKaj> without the  /
[15:33] <James147> BluesKaj: nvidia-settings to set it up, xconfig only creates a xorg file, which he should already have
[15:33] <BluesKaj> maybe not
[15:33] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  I did nvidia-settings
[15:33] <saeia> whats your problem EvilRoey?
[15:33] <James147> BluesKaj: as far as I know nvidia-settings will create one if you dont, and so dose installing the drivers :)
[15:34] <EvilRoey> saeia:  (I fixed it, but here it is again for you to read): I have a setup with an NVidia card and the KDE 4.6 second beta.  How do I make the monitor to the left the primary one?  Right now when I scroll the mouse to the leftmost edge of the left monitor, it wraps to the rightmost edge of the right one.  I'd like to just be able to move the mouse across both desktops through the middle.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> yes but do nvidia-xconfig just to be sure
[15:34] <EvilRoey> xconfig, ok
[15:34] <James147> EvilRoey: i wouldnt
[15:34] <EvilRoey> I love how the icons on the panel no longer respond with kde 4.6 beta 2 ppas.
[15:34] <James147> EvilRoey: that will reset the settings and you ill have to do it again
[15:34] <saeia> EvilRoey:  twindisplay is working for you and maximizing to the same moniter and such?
[15:34] <James147> EvilRoey: yeah.... I am getting taht as well :(
[15:34] <maco> EvilRoey: devel is a better channel to point that out...
[15:34] <EvilRoey> well I made it write an xorg.conf file
[15:35] <EvilRoey> James147:  and this is the second installation where I see this
[15:35] <EvilRoey> saeia:  yes
[15:35] <EvilRoey> James147:  I wrote to xorg.conf so I assume it will stick, yes?
[15:35] <EvilRoey> maco:  good balmy morning
[15:35] <James147> EvilRoey: should do
[15:35] <EvilRoey> maco:  weather's not evil today, apparently
[15:35] <EvilRoey> James147:  woohoo
[15:36] <saeia> Hum  guess linux just hates me >>;
[15:36] <EvilRoey> nono, God hates you.
[15:36] <EvilRoey> Linux is just canned dirt
[15:36] <saeia> I see.
[15:36] <EvilRoey> so are computers in general, for that matter.
[15:36] <EvilRoey> don't worry though, it's not linux
[15:36] <saeia> its the error between keyboard and moniter?
[15:37] <EvilRoey> between chair and starry heavens.
[15:37] <saeia> i think that would be bed.
[15:37] <saeia> computerdesk agasint bed = <3
[15:37] <EvilRoey> I would like to move computer desk into bed and then could stay in bed
[15:37] <EvilRoey> :)
[15:37] <saeia> thats what i did
[15:37] <EvilRoey> saeia:  hey, you're in va
[15:38] <saeia> Yeah
[15:38] <EvilRoey> Cool
[15:38] <EvilRoey> same here.
[15:38] <EvilRoey> sorta.
[15:38] <maco> i thought you were in md, EvilRoey
[15:38]  * maco is in va for 1 more day
[15:38] <saeia> where are you EvilRoey?
[15:38] <EvilRoey> maco:  I live in Bethesda (center of the world) and work in Fairfax
[15:39] <EvilRoey> saeia:  bethesda/fairfax
[15:39] <saeia> Oh dont the super mutaints bother you? o_O
[15:39] <maco> ah. i live in arlington for 1 more day and quit my job in fairfax :)
[15:39] <saeia> can i have it maco?
[15:39] <maco> saeia: the congress critters?
[15:40] <EvilRoey> hee hee
[15:40] <EvilRoey> saeia:  don't worry, the super mutants in bethesda have cell phones.. they don't bother anyone else walking down the street, they're lost in their own cell phone world
[15:42] <saeia> EvilRoey:  you should like get me a job
[15:43] <EvilRoey> saeia:  asl?
[15:43] <EvilRoey> joke, joke.
[15:44] <EvilRoey> what I meant is:  PM me with an educational background, etc.
[15:44]  * maco gives EvilRoey the evileye
[15:44]  * EvilRoey blinks his standard complement of evil eyes + new one
[15:44] <EvilRoey> blink-blink-blink
[15:50]  * BluesKaj tries to ignore the beltway insider lingo :)
[15:50] <kenneth_> hello
[15:50] <timoc> thanks for the help
[15:51] <kenneth_> whats up
[15:52] <BluesKaj> not much kenneth_, got a question?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> too late
[15:52] <BluesKaj> not much kenneth_, got a question?
[15:53] <kenneth_> how can i instal vlc on kubuntu
[15:54] <James147> kenneth_: run: "sudo apt-get install vlc" or search for it in kpackagekit
[15:54] <kenneth_> can you hear mee
[15:54] <James147> kenneth_: yes :) but we need time to reply :D
[15:54] <kenneth_> ok
[15:59] <kenneth_> my pc sound is not caming on kubuntu 10.10 but when i change the operating systen to windows 7 is working, pls can you help me
[16:04] <James147> kenneth_: run in a terminal "alsamixer" makesure non of the chanels are low/muted
[16:06] <kenneth_> ok
[16:10] <kenneth_> i have down that but i cant hear anything.. please help me
[16:11] <James147> kenneth_: run "speaker-test", can you hear anything (ctrl=c to stop it)
[16:11] <James147> s/=/+
[16:15] <kenneth_> no i cant hear anything... please
[16:18] <BluesKaj> kenneth_, look at the alsamixer controls , make sure there is no "M" in the box at the bottom , use the M key to unmute any of them , and use the arrow keys to navigate in alsamixer
[16:20] <BluesKaj> kenneth_, speaker test in the terminal,  speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav
[16:26] <liliput> seid gegrüß ihr kubuntu nutzer
[16:26] <BluesKaj> !de | liliput
[16:27] <liliput> danke dir
[16:27] <liliput> thanks
[16:31] <kenneth_> when i run speaker-test in the terminal, what i see is Time per period, 0-fornt let
[16:33] <kenneth_> is working
[16:33] <kenneth_> thank you very much
[16:37] <kenneth_> please can you help with me cam
[16:38] <darthanubis> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=91719
[16:45] <pearse> how do I find installed programs not on kick-start menu please?
[16:47] <rork> pearse: via the search in kickstart, start typing in Alt+F2, or ls /usr/bin/*partialname*
[17:00] <kenneth_> i just install samba, please can you help me help me to find the pc around me...
[17:02] <James147> kenneth_: to see other computers go to dolhpin > Network (on the places panel) > Samba Shares > Your workgroup ...
[17:04] <kenneth_> thanks i get it
[17:05] <orsetto> hello everybody
[17:05] <James147> Hi orsetto
[17:06] <pearse_> lthanks rork: Alt + F2 drops kickstart down screen out of site; second option does not produce any reaction
[17:07] <darthanubis> any 4.6beta2 users? using KDEPIM4.6?
[17:07] <darthanubis> from the experimental ppa?
[17:07] <darthanubis> no? ok.
[17:09] <orsetto> i've need of a little help. i'm italian then i'm sorry for my ugly english. i've kubuntu 10.10 but even in older versions i've never understand how to use the plasma-folders
[17:09] <darthanubis> !it
[17:09] <orsetto> how i can put into this my favourite applications?
[17:09] <rork> pearse: sorry I mixed up kickoff and kickstart
[17:10] <James147> orsetto: the folder-view widget is for displaying a folder n your desktop... not really used for launching applications, however, you can just drag and drop applcation from the kmenu to the desktop
[17:11] <pearse_> rork:apologies my error - should have typed kickoff
[17:11] <rork> :)
[17:11] <rork> pearse: did you find it? what program are you looking for?
[17:12] <pearse_> rork: no - the program is Python
[17:13] <James147> pearse_: python is a command line program
[17:14] <James147> pearse_: an interperter to be exact... but either way, you execute it in a terminal, unless your trying to run a script from it
[17:14] <kenneth_> how can i use my webcam on kubuntu 10.10 please help me
[17:14] <James147> pearse_: if you are then alt+f2: "python SCTIPT"   should run it
[17:15] <orsetto> James147, thanks but i've already tried that you said. I've the application-icon on my desktop but not in plasma desktop folder
[17:16] <James147> orsetto: not entirly sure what you are tring to do...
[17:18] <orsetto> If I drag and drop application from kmenu to the desktop i see it on my desktop but not in the plasma desktop folder
[17:20] <James147> orsetto: yes, thats how its designed to work, if you want to drag it to the folder widget, open dolphin and navagate to the folder you want it in then drag it from the menu to dolphin
[17:20] <James147> ... although I am not sure why you need to :)
[17:26] <pearse_> James147: thanks but my underlying problem is that all installed programs do not show up in Kickoff leaving me scrabbling around trying to find them: an example at random = Gtypist
[17:27] <James147> pearse_: you can add them to the menu manually then... right click the menu > edit menu  or run kmenuedit
[17:34] <fish_> on the first install screen (after) langusge scr.) i am given the option to start kubuntu/test ram/ck hd/boot 1st hd.  documentation says there should be
[17:35] <fish_> install or run from cd
[17:35] <fish_> start kubuntu just makes hd rumble
[17:36] <fish_> multi disks/versions tried
[17:36] <James147> fish_: start kubuntu is the option you want... the install/run opption now comes later after that
[17:36] <James147> fish_: have you checked the disk? and done an md5 on the iso?
[17:36] <fish_> oh, i get a black screen and lots of hd activity
[17:37] <fish_> y all ok
[17:37] <James147> hmm..
[17:39] <James147> fish_: try removing quite splash from the boot options (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions)... see if it give you any information
[17:40] <fish_> ok thanks
[17:43] <pearse_> James147: many thanks - kmenuedit hit the spot
[18:24] <micha787_> Hi
[18:46] <zoiss> hey guys. i've got a little problem with my rekonq (always newest version from daily). If i want to start i get an plasma error message coming up: "KDEInit kann „/usr/bin/rekonq“ nicht starten.", which means that KDEInit is not able to start rekonq. but rekonq starts properly ...is there a way to get that error dialog away?
[18:54] <noober> hello, is someone aware of a possibility to switch off compositing only for one window in KDE4?
[19:03] <Snowhog> noober: compositing is system wide and is either 'on' or 'off'. What do you want to change on the window?
[19:05] <noober> @Snowhog i'm trying to run Alpha Centauri and the game is translucent when compositing is turned on
[19:07] <sahko> hi, how can i change the korganizer clock on the taskbar to 24hour time indication?
[19:08] <Snowhog> noober: Right-click on the window title bar, click on Advanced > Special Application Settings > Preferences and check Active opacity in % and change to Force and reduce the setting.
[19:09] <Snowhog> sahko: You have to make the change in System Settings.
[19:09] <noober> @Snowhog for compiz, you have to do this: No ARGB Visuals, so i don't think that it's the transparency problem
[19:09] <sahko> great, where is exactly i cant find it. mind that thats not the default in KDE
[19:10] <Snowhog> noober: Sorry. I don't use compiz, so I can't assist.
[19:10] <Snowhog> sahko: What version of KDE are you using?
[19:11] <noober> @Snowhog yes, me neither :) but i guess it's system wide as you've said
[19:11] <noober> @Snowhog thanks!
[19:11] <sahko> the one that in 10.10, 4.5.1 unless the update thats running atm will change that.
[19:11] <sahko> which i doubt
[19:13] <Snowhog> sahko: System Settings > Locale > Time & Dates and click on the Time Format to select HH:MM:SS
[19:13] <sahko> ah didnt look there. let me see
[19:14] <sahko> Snowhog: its already that way.. and time on bottom is 24hour there
[19:14] <sahko> on bottom of the tab of the settings window
[19:18] <sahko> brb
[19:23] <Guest36671> hmm time automagically changed after the reboot.
[19:24] <Guest36671> one other thing,  whats the package that tries to be interactive in consoles, virtual or not?
[19:24] <Guest36671> i would like to remove it, hopefully without breaking anything
[19:25] <Guest36671> the one that for example if i type 'lsl /home ' tells me cant find lsl but theres ls in coreutils
[19:25] <Snowhog> Guest36671: That's because the command is ls -l
[19:26] <Guest36671> did you read my question? whats the name of the package that does that?
[19:29] <Snowhog> Guest36671: I'm not understanding your question. ls is part of the package coreutils. You don't want to remove coreutils.
[19:29] <Guest36671> i want the name of the package that tells me that ls is part of coreutils, not coreutils.
[19:30] <Guest36671> the package that produces this output:
[19:30] <Guest36671> lsl
[19:30] <Guest36671> No command 'lsl' found, did you mean:
[19:30] <Guest36671>  Command 'lsh' from package 'lsh-client' (universe)
[19:30] <yofel> Guest36671: you mean what prints the <No command 'lsl' found, did you mean: ...'?
[19:30] <FloodBotK3> Guest36671: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <Guest36671> bingo
[19:30] <yofel> ah, that would be the 'command-not-found' package
[19:31] <Guest36671> thank you, i hope it doesnt depend on ubuntu-core or something
[19:31] <yofel> Depends: python (<< 2.8), python (>= 2.6), python-central (>= 0.6.11), python-apt, command-not-found-data, python-gdbm, lsb-release
[19:34] <Snowhog> Guest36671: apt-cache showpkg command-not-found shows you the dependencies of the package.
[19:35] <Guest36671> i meant reverse dependencies.
[19:36] <Snowhog> Guest36671: reverse depends are shown as ubuntu-standard,command-not-found
[19:36] <Guest36671> 131kb of wasted space cleared
[19:36] <Guest36671> but now i get lsl
[19:36] <Guest36671> /usr/bin/python: can't find '__main__.py' in '/usr/share/command-not-found'
[19:36] <Guest36671> wtf
[19:37] <Guest36671> ah its in /etc/bash.bashrc
[19:38] <Guest36671> yay
[19:38] <Guest36671> !
[19:38] <Guest36671> begone
[20:55] <thomi> Hi, I can't seem to get the "Split View Left/Right" or "Split View Top/Bottom" keyboard shortcuts for konsole working in Kubuntu 10.10. Am I missing something?
[20:55] <thomi> The konsole menu has them listed as CTRL+SHIFT+( and CTRL+SHIFT+)
[20:56] <thomi> But hammering that key combination doesn't seem to do anything at all.
[21:05] <James147> thomi: heh, your right... think i see the problem, its set to crtl+shift+(  when it should be ctrl+(  (you need to hold shift to get '( ' ) reassign the shortcut in the menu to fix it
[21:11] <tilted_mind> I want to create a hotkey combination that sends keystrokes to an application.  I created a Custom Shortcut that is the type Send Keyboard Input.  I created the trigger for the keystroke I want to use to fire it off.  In Action I selected the window, and put Ctrl+m in the top window.  It doesn't work (nothing happens) any suggestions?
[21:14] <tilted_mind> Specifically I am trying to mute the last.fm player.  It has a keyboard shortcut built in that uses Ctrl+m to mute it.  I want to do the same without opening the app first.
[21:14] <tilted_mind> But don't want to mute my whole system.
[21:26] <redstar1932> hola
[21:29] <James147> tilted_mind: from what I can tell they are not ment for global shorcuts (they will only work if the window has focus)
[21:38] <tilted_mind> hmm.  ok
[21:39] <tilted_mind> is there anyother way to create a global shortcut to an app?
[21:39] <tilted_mind> James147: thanks for the reply.  I will keep working at it.
[21:40] <James147> tilted_mind: check kmixer, see if it has a seperate chanel for it...
[21:42] <tilted_mind> James147: I see in playback streams it has Alsa plug-in [last.fm]
[21:43] <James147> tilted_mind: and muting it/changing the volume of it dose so for last.fm?
[21:44] <tilted_mind> James147: yes, there are two, and one of them affects the app.
[21:44] <James147> tilted_mind: then you can make it your master chanel... then kmix wont affect your system volume but that app instead
[21:44] <James147> not perfect solution but it should work
[21:45] <tilted_mind> James147: thanks, I will try that.
[21:47] <tilted_mind> James147: that works great.  Just what I needed.  Thanks!
[21:48] <jeltsch> I want to switch from a local KOrganizer calendar to CalDAV. How can I “upload“ the *.ics file to a CalDAV server?
[23:13] <canmatt> anyone still watching the channel at this time?
[23:14] <Snowhog> canmatt: Your question?
[23:14] <rtdos> what's a good internet radio player for kubuntu?
[23:15] <canmatt> yes. I have Kubuntu 10.10 and there was an update 24 to 72 hours ago, and I had to reboot this morning  and now neither kMail nor kopete start up, i get: kmail: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkabc.so.4: invalid ELF header
[23:15] <dasKreech> amarok?
[23:15] <rtdos> thanks, dasKreech
[23:16] <canmatt> i get the same error when tryingto launch kopete
[23:19] <canmatt> Snowhog: and that's all the console tells me when I try to launch through it
[23:21] <Snowhog> canmatt: In a console type:  ls -la /usr/lib/libkabc*   The results should all be symlinks to a single library file named libkabc.so.4.5.0. Is that the case for you?
[23:22] <Snowhog> canmatt: IF you are using KDE 4.5.4 that is.
[23:22] <canmatt> i'm supposed to have the KDE that comes with a brand spanking new install of Kubuntu 10.10
[23:23] <canmatt> 4.5.1
[23:24] <Snowhog> canmatt: How do you perform your updates:  KPackagekit, or ?
[23:24] <canmatt> Snowhog: I suppose that the update assumes I'm using 4.5.4?
[23:25] <canmatt> the little gear that appears in the icon tray next to the clock, so KPackageKit I assume
[23:26] <canmatt> psht! his makes me feel like I'm on the other end of what I do for a living...
[23:26] <Snowhog> canmatt: Not unless you added the kubuntu-ppa/ppa repository.
[23:27] <canmatt> this*
[23:27] <Snowhog> In a console, type:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f  to see if any packages were missed and/or didn't get fully installed.
[23:28] <canmatt> Snowhog: okay, giving it a whirl
[23:28] <canmatt> Snowhog: reports that three packages were not upgraded
[23:31] <canmatt> I try a apt-get upgrade?
[23:31] <Snowhog> canmatt: No. What were the three packages?
[23:31] <canmatt> does not say
[23:31] <canmatt> and i know not the command for apt to tell me so
[23:32] <Snowhog> canmatt: When you ran sudo apt-get install -f  it told you there were three packages, but didn't name them?
[23:33] <canmatt> i'll run it separately
[23:33] <canmatt> all I get is "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded."
[23:34] <Snowhog> canmatt: Okay. In the console run:  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:36] <canmatt> Snowhog: Says it's going to update linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic
[23:36] <canmatt> upgrade* sorry
[23:36] <canmatt> Guess it can not hurt to let it happen
[23:36] <Snowhog> canmatt: Accept it and let it upgrade the indicated packages.
[23:37] <Snowhog> canmatt: So those are the only items identified for upgrading?
[23:37] <Snowhog> *updating
[23:38] <Macer> hm. anybody with an nv240 have issues getting kubuntu to not freeze up when trying to start kde?
[23:39] <Macer> i just tried a fresh install and it kind of hangs when the video swaps off the vesa console. i tried going into recovery mode and seeing about installing the nvidia xserver but still have the same issue
[23:40] <canmatt> Snowhog:  yes those were all
[23:40] <Macer> hangs on the gui live cd as well. had to use the alternate install cd
[23:40] <Macer> maybe i will just yank the nv240 and use the onboard stuff
[23:41] <Snowhog> canmatt: Have you done any customization of Kubuntu since you installed? Specifically, have you added any third-party repositories, or installed any packages not using Kpackagekit and/or sudo apt-get install?
[23:42] <James147> Macer: try adding vga=771 to the boot prematers (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions)
[23:42] <canmatt> Snowhog: I may have, let me scroll the command history
[23:44] <Macer> James147: ok. i will try that when i get the chance
[23:45] <canmatt> Snowhog:  i ran libdvdread4/install-css.sh as well as installed whois with apt-get install
[23:46] <Snowhog> canmatt: Those would not have created any issues.
[23:46] <Snowhog> canmatt: Are you comfortable working from the console?
[23:47] <canmatt> Snowhog: yes, even though I don't have 3 tons of experience with it :)
[23:47] <canmatt> <3 yakuake
[23:48] <Snowhog> canmatt: Since your install of Kubuntu, and since the reboot when the problem presented, did you launch any GUI application from the console using sudo?
[23:49] <canmatt> nope, only those two to see what they'd dump
[23:50] <Snowhog> canmatt: Are you positive that your Kmail and Kopete problem occured after a reboot? They were working fine before, and after the last round of updates?
[23:51] <canmatt> actually, i rebooted this morning because pretty much nothing responded anymore and I sort of suspect Kmail to have cause the problem because it was missing from the list of apps in the panel
[23:52] <James147> canmatt: could you create a new user and see if they work on them, that will show you if its a config problem or not
[23:52] <canmatt> sure
[23:54] <canmatt> Snowhog: should i reboot now that it's done upgrading the kernel or i can leave that for after fixing this issue (or doing everything possible)?
[23:55] <Snowhog> canmatt: Reboot. Check everything out once you've logged in to the desktop. See if Kmail and kopete work again.
[23:55] <canmatt> if not then i give the test user a go?
[23:55] <James147> canmatt: yup
[23:55] <canmatt> alright, there i poof