[00:32] <BUGabundo> night guys
[01:52] <dw-> keep up the great work
[12:22] <juk> where did apps from system tray gone?
[12:25] <juk> like doking dictionaries and stuff only transmission is left, and ibus
[12:36] <juk> whole gnome got messed up
[12:43] <juk> nevermind goldendict is stopped stardict's madness
[13:57] <coz_> nvidia-current is now held back ?  oy :)
[15:15] <joaopinto> hi
[15:25] <DanaG> Okay, so I upgraded my tablet to natty, and it wiped out ALL my compiz settings AND my gnome panel!
[15:26] <DanaG> So now i get this lame unity panel thing that doesn't even have a clock!
[15:27] <DanaG> And the gnome menu opens a nautilus window to /usr/share/applications, instead of doing the cool thing it used to do...
[15:27] <DanaG> So now I have 12 nautilus windows open to the same place.
[15:40] <DanaG> And it won't even let me use the freaking cube with Unity!
[15:41] <DanaG> Why in the world does that bar absolutely, positively have to have the desktops SLIDE?
[15:41] <IdleOne> Welcome to the new way of doing stuff.
[15:41] <IdleOne> so you end up losing your windows also
[15:42]  * IdleOne closed 4 firefox windows earlier. I wasn't using any of them
[15:42] <IdleOne> and yeah that applications thing bugs me also
[15:52] <joaopinto> is there a known problem with the livecd installer from 18th ?
[15:59] <jcastro> joaopinto: I can't get mine to work either (in testdrive)
[15:59] <joaopinto> jcastro, it fails during the user creation phase right ?
[16:00] <jcastro> no, mine fails when creating the file system part
[16:00] <joaopinto> actually after 2 tries I am not sure was at the same place
[16:00] <jcastro> I was just going to wait for the next spin
[16:00] <joaopinto> I was planning to play with Unity this holidays :(
[16:01] <joaopinto> the error message presents the link to report a bug, which is hard to use because it doesn't allow to copy or open a browser from it
[16:01] <joaopinto> looking at /var/log/installer didn't show anything meaningful either :(
[16:04] <joaopinto> we need real persistent usb installs :(
[16:54] <rye_> hi people, is anybody else experiencing huge performance issues while running ubuntu vm in natty using kvm?
[18:13] <F3RR1S>  /join #ubuntu
[18:13] <F3RR1S> oops
[18:14] <F3RR1S> I need help porting my video from laptop to a tv via s-video cable
[18:14] <F3RR1S> is there an easy way to do this?
[18:21] <apadox> Hello, how can i update from Maverick to Natty from console?
[19:56] <Some_Person> It may be too early to ask this, but I'll do it anyway: will issues involving major crashes likely be fixed in natty?
[19:56] <bjsnider> no, we plan on creating as many showstoppers as possible to screw with our user base
[19:56] <Some_Person> no, seriously
[19:56] <bjsnider> our theory is they will become deeply resentful of us, but we need to actually conduct a test to prove it
[19:56] <bjsnider> we never assume anything
[19:57] <Some_Person> I want a serious answer
[19:57] <bjsnider> ask a serious question
[19:58] <Some_Person> I'm having major issues involving random system crashes in maverick. Will this likely be fixed in natty?
[19:59] <Some_Person> It's a simple "yes/no/don't know" question
[19:59] <bjsnider> have you submitted a bug?
[20:00] <charlie-tca> bjsnider: +1 lol
[20:00] <Some_Person> I'm not sure what to put in the bug report other than "it crashes and I have to reboot"
[20:00] <Some_Person> there's no obvious indication of what the problem is
[20:00] <bjsnider> now we're getting somewhere
[20:00] <bjsnider> just submit the bug and you will receive instructions
[20:01] <bjsnider> they can't fix it if they don't know it's broken
[20:43] <billybigrigger> where is the system menu in unity?
[20:50] <charlie-tca> Some days it is accessed by clicking the ubuntu logo in the left corner
[20:50] <charlie-tca> but you might have to go through nautilus, to  /usr/share/applications   and find the application to click on there
[21:16] <BUGabundo> o/
[21:17] <charlie-tca> hello, BUGabundo
[21:18] <charlie-tca> Are things any better today?
[21:19] <BUGabundo> not really
[21:20] <BUGabundo> nasty day at work
[21:20] <BUGabundo> and personally not my best days :(
[21:20] <charlie-tca> Sorry to hear that :-(
[21:20] <BUGabundo> at least I saved my docs
[21:20] <BUGabundo> re-mirroring to external server what I have
[21:20] <BUGabundo> its only 20GBs
[21:37] <billybigrigger> any way to kill unity and revert back to gnome-panel?
[21:40] <ior3k> billybigrigger: login with the Ubuntu Classic Desktop session
[21:41] <billybigrigger> roger
[21:44] <billybigrigger> ahhhh there we go :)