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yofelkosaidpo: and 'ls ~/.bash*' ?00:01
kosaidpoyofel: i msged u in private00:03
kosaidpo1yofel: hello still the same i have to source up the file to let the script get recognized from evrywhere00:07
kosaidpo1and if i closed the terminal i have to re-do the source .pro00:07
yofelyour bash is odd...00:07
kosaidpo1:P00:08
kosaidpo1thanks tho00:12
kosaidpo1goin to sleep now00:12
kosaidpo1have good time00:12
UndiFineD!dualscreen01:26
ubot2Factoid 'dualscreen' not found01:26
UndiFineD!dualmoni01:26
ubot2Factoid 'dualmoni' not found01:26
UndiFineD!dualmonitor01:26
ubot2Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama01:26
stlsaintyo anyone around?02:35
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kendrickLeiternot sure if it's appropriate for beginners, but when viewing webpages in command line using links, can I open images on the page using feh?02:56
paultagsure kendrickLeiter :)02:57
paultagkendrickLeiter: just hack in support -- feh can load over http, so just hack a script or something onto lynx / elinks / links to handle the img type02:57
paultagall you need to do is snag the <img> tags, read in the src attr, and use that URL as an arg to feh02:58
harrisonkhello03:00
harrisonk!!Xinerama03:04
ubot2xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead03:04
harrisonk!X03:04
ubot2The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution03:04
firewall_03so lets say I want a music file to play when I get an e-mail, I already have the gmail app installed, what would the command be play a sound file?06:18
bioterrorfirewall_03, in evolution: Edit/Plugins/mail-notification.06:22
firewall_03I don't use evolution I am running mail-watcher, it was one of the app's I found for the tool bar on xubuntu06:23
geirhamplayer or play (in the sox package) maybe06:39
geirhaThere's aplay which is installed by default I think, but not sure what filetypes it can play.06:40
geirhaespeak "You got mail"06:41
MrAnthropewow there're a lot of gmail notifiers.06:44
MrAnthropeBut why not use evolution?06:44
firewall_03lol idk06:44
firewall_03I guess I could06:44
MrAnthropeWell no I mean I was just asking :)06:44
MrAnthropeI wasn't telling lol06:44
firewall_03I know06:45
firewall_03is thunderbird better?06:45
MrAnthropeGMail is awesome 'cause you can set it up through pretty much anything.06:45
geirha"All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less." - www.mutt.org06:46
geirhaI like that one ^ :)06:46
firewall_03lol ya06:46
firewall_03Id have to say I do like running Xubuntu over the netbook remix06:47
bioterrorI like alpine more06:47
bioterroralpine can handle imap too06:47
MrAnthropeI don't have anything set up on Linux to check my gmail because my phone sends me notifications immediately.06:47
geirhabioterror: So can mutt06:47
MrAnthropeAnd if I'm not near my computer I can check it on my phone. Or if I am I just check it through Chrome.06:48
john2010how do i turn on laptop mode?06:49
bioterrorwhat mode?06:49
bioterroryou can adjust your power settings, right click on the battery icon06:49
john2010so there's no such thing as a laptop mode?06:50
bioterroryou're not using windows, remember06:51
bioterrorthings are done differently06:51
john2010ok anyway i have one more issue06:52
john2010when i attempt to use POWERTOP after 5 seconds my computers goes black06:52
john2010and i"m forced to reboot by holding in my power button06:53
MrAnthropeWill Mozilla Thunderbird install into the notification panel?06:54
firewall_03MrAnthrope: i don't think so, but I am not sure06:55
MrAnthropeI should set up evo...06:55
bioterrorjohn2010, I've never dealth with powertop. if your laptop can suspend/hibernate and resume without a problem, then there must be something with the powertop06:56
firewall_03I had suspend/hibernate problems on a sony vaio07:03
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* UndiFineD waves at casandera 14:21
casanderahoi14:22
hajourhai casandera14:22
hajourall meet my daughter casandera14:22
hobgoblinhello14:23
hajourcasandera, go to #ubuntu-beginners-team14:26
irctestHey guys15:09
Puck`hi irctest15:10
Puck`welcome to Ubuntu Beginners Channel (:15:10
irctestThanks, I just wnat to connect to a remote company server(Ubuntu 10.04), but I it's screen locked and waiting for password, and here I see a dark screen in vinagre, any help?15:12
irctestI cannot see remote desktop screen.15:14
ebeebhi all15:18
ebeebjust installed fresh 10.10 , and i got bootloader problems15:19
ebeebliveCD did not meneged to install bootloader on any of my partitions15:20
ebeebnow i cannot boot my machine.15:20
reaper_anyone know how to set the permissions on CD/DVD Drive to check the allow executing file as program17:30
genupulasreaper_:  go tp properties of cd/dvd17:40
genupulasreaper_:  go to open with and select add and select ur first preferable application17:41
reaper_nothing is their, only gives me the option is when I have a disk in the drive and when I try to check it. it says I cant17:42
reaper_question how does gmount-iso work, I was able to mount first disk with no problem but now I cant get it to move to the second disk, can anyone help me18:35
stlsaintreaper_: have you viewed the man page for it18:36
reaper_for gmount18:37
reaper_no18:37
* nlsthzn spots a RTFM and giggles to himself like a little school girl...18:43
TomekaGerenaasterismo, you in?19:07
Mjiiggood afternoon, something odd happened today when i was checking top, java is showing 154% CPU usage. That doesn't seem possible. Any ideas?19:20
stlsaint154%?19:20
Mjiigyep19:20
stlsaintwell alot of apps use java19:20
nlsthznMore than one core perhaps?19:20
Mjiighadn't thought of that19:21
Mjiigi think it's dual core19:21
Mjiigwould top show that in that way19:21
stlsaintshow dual cores? not sure but i think it shows the two as one19:21
nlsthznDon't know... the way of the Top is mysterious to me19:21
asterismoTomekaGerena > in?19:22
Mjiigat the same time conky was showing about 70%19:22
yofel_Mjiig: pressing '1' in top will expand cores, but 100% usually mean 1 core, so if a process uses 2 cores it'll be shown as 200%19:23
doezCan I disable the alt hotkey somehow? I need it to play a game.19:23
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Mjiigyofel: thanks19:24
TomekaGerenaasterismo, i'm the one that has been having issues with the icon theme.19:25
nlsthznMjiig: 70%*2 ~ 150%... sounds about right :)19:25
stlsaintdoez: whatever application uses the hotkey option is where you change it19:26
asterismoah19:26
asterismoyeah19:26
asterismocould you fix that?19:26
doezstlsaint: No I get the options "Minimize, maximize etc etc" in every application.19:26
TomekaGerenanope.19:26
asterismoTomekaGerena > do this19:27
asterismo1) open a nautilus file manager19:27
asterismo2) go to your user folder19:27
asterismohit Ctrl+H to see hidden files and folders19:27
asterismoseek the folder .icons19:28
stlsaintdoez: System->Keyboard Shortcuts19:28
TomekaGerenaasterismo, empty folder19:28
asterismogo in it, and then uncompress the FaenzaGreen .tar.gz file in that folder19:28
asterismoit should show now a FaenzaGreen folder19:29
asterismonow, delete the .tar.gz19:29
doezstlsaint: Thank you.19:29
asterismogo to appearences and hit your theme, and choose customize, go to the icon tab and search for your icons19:29
asterismoand you're done19:29
TomekaGerenawell, i may not have the option, but it appears the icons have changed19:31
TomekaGerenaunless its supposed to be called different19:32
asterismodo you have Ubuntu and GNOME installed?19:34
TomekaGerenadefault ubnutu installation19:34
asterismobecause in appereance19:34
asterismoyou have 3 buttons at the bottom19:35
TomekaGerenayeah19:35
asterismosave as, costomize, and install19:35
TomekaGerenai got that19:35
TomekaGerenai hit customize19:35
TomekaGerenago to icons19:35
asterismochoose the icons tab19:35
asterismoand scroll down to the Faenza,19:35
TomekaGerenai don't have a faenza option19:36
TomekaGerenawhat is selected, is Clearlooks19:36
asterismobut you uncompressed the FaenzaGreen folder into /home/username/.icons19:36
asterismoright?19:36
TomekaGerenayes, and the icons changed19:36
TomekaGerenaso i'm asking should it be showing as clearlooks, or faenza19:36
asterismoclearlooks is a GTK theme19:37
asterismothat is the controls tab19:37
asterismowhen hitting customize, you have several superior tabs19:37
asterismocontrols, Colors, Window Border, Icons, etc19:37
TomekaGerenabah shit19:38
asterismochange to icon tab19:38
TomekaGerenaok,19:38
TomekaGerenamy bad19:38
asterismoit should be there19:38
TomekaGerenayeah... ok, i see it now19:38
TomekaGerenamy mistake19:38
asterismoTomekaGerena > anyway there is a better way to do it19:38
asterismoin the main appearence window, you just need to hit "install" button, and select the FaenzaGreen.tar.gz, it automatically recognize that as a new icon theme and ask you if you want to apply the new theme19:39
TomekaGerenayeah.. it wasn't doing it for me19:40
TomekaGerenaso yeah19:40
asterismoso do that with future icon themes, it should work19:40
asterismogoing to .icon folder and uncompress mannually there is just the manual way, or hacker way, lol19:40
asterismoglad it helped19:41
TomekaGerenano worries... just glad to have it done19:41
asterismoenjoy the theme19:41
asterismoTomekaGerena > you can also install the GTK theme, doing something similar manually but in the .theme folder19:42
asterismoIt makes the FaenzaGreen icons looks better, any dark theme would do19:43
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kristian-aalborghi ppl20:01
kristian-aalborgis there anyone here who might be able to help my configure my framebuffer correctly?20:07
MrAnthropeNo idea what that is, sorry.20:09
yofelkristian-aalborg: what do you want to set?20:20
kristian-aalborgyofel: hi20:20
kristian-aalborgMrAnthrope: honesty is nice ;)20:20
kristian-aalborgthe skinny is that I have a dual (acutally quadropple (sp)) boot - I like to have full resolution in my terminal, so I added some stuff to 00_header and /etc/default/grub - but now I can't load my other OS, Slitaz20:22
stlsaintkristian-aalborg: lol, yea you spelled that all jacked up20:22
kristian-aalborgalso, I suspect that my settings are done wrong, because the box seems too slow20:22
kristian-aalborgfour-times boot, alright?20:23
kristian-aalborg;)20:23
yofelkristian-aalborg: boot to grub commandline, run vbeinfo to get what's possible and set 'GRUB_GFXMODE' and maybe 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX' in /etc/default/grub20:23
yofelI have20:24
yofelGRUB_GFXMODE=1280x80020:24
yofelGRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1280x800x3220:24
yofelfor example20:24
kristian-aalborgyofel: will try, hang on20:24
yofelmy native res is 1600x900 but for some reason the vesa fb doesn't support that for my card :(20:25
kristian-aalborgI get something that says configured VBE mode = 0x10120:26
yofelyeah, you can give that has a hex value too, vbeinfo will show what you *can* set, setting something that's not supported will prevent booting20:27
kristian-aalborgnow I'm running vbetest... looks trippy20:27
yofels/has/as/20:27
kristian-aalborg0x116 or 0x117 seems to be what I want20:30
kristian-aalborgyofel: this is in 00_header or in /default/grub?+20:34
kristian-aalborg?20:34
yofelwhy would you change 00_header? only set things in /etc/default/grub, changing stuff in /etc/grub.2 has great breakage potential20:35
kristian-aalborgyofel: I was following some forum post somewhere20:35
kristian-aalborgbadhacks.org/forum is perhaps not the best place to look ;)20:36
MrAnthropelmao20:36
yofelif that post set 'vbe=...' then that's rather old, not sure if that syntax still works20:36
MrAnthropeStill no idea what's going on but "s/has/as/" made me giggle.20:36
yofelMrAnthrope: that meant: replace has with as in my last sentence :P20:37
MrAnthropeOh yeah I got that part. All the other stuff -- no idea.20:37
kristian-aalborgshould I have insmod vbe somewhere?20:38
yofelMrAnthrope: and the framebuffer is what shows the ttys when X isn't running, meaning what you see when you go to ctrl+alt+f220:38
MrAnthrope!dict ttys20:39
yofelkristian-aalborg: no, the scripts take care of that when you set gfxmode or gfxpayload20:39
ubot2Factoid 'dict ttys' not found20:39
MrAnthrope!ttys20:39
ubot2To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.20:39
yofeltake the framebuffer as text mode graphic driver (very basic one)20:39
MrAnthropeIs there hardware that is actively developed for Linux?20:40
kristian-aalborgI have GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD but not GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX20:40
reaper_how do I remove files from the filesystem and the home dir that are locked20:40
yofelerm, as long as there are linux drivers you can use any hardware for linux20:40
kristian-aalborgMrAnthrope: the Android Phone?20:40
kristian-aalborgalso, there are computers out there built with linux in mind20:40
yofelkristian-aalborg: payload isn't there by default, it's somewhere in the depths of the grub documentation20:40
yofel!grub2 | kristian-aalborg20:40
ubot2kristian-aalborg: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:41
yofelit's there afaik20:41
MrAnthropeI have an android, but I meant computers heh. I build computers. Going to build another one for Linux.20:41
kristian-aalborgyofel: can you paste your /default/grub?20:41
kristian-aalborgMrAnthrope: there's lists of supported HW out there20:42
yofelhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/546094/20:42
kristian-aalborggracias20:43
* kristian-aalborg crosses fingers20:43
kristian-aalborgbugger, I lost the correct resolution20:44
kristian-aalborghttp://pastebin.com/RNPfVYqS20:47
kristian-aalborgthe hex codes don't seem to work for me20:53
yofelwell, vbeinfo tells you the resolution values too, so just use that20:56
kristian-aalborgholy smoke... my screen just turned red slowly21:00
UndiFineDis it a crt ?21:00
UndiFineDkristian-aalborg, ?21:01
kristian-aalborgno... it's very old21:01
kristian-aalborghttp://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:77021:01
kristian-aalborgGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga=795"  - I did something like this21:01
kristian-aalborgfrom official ubuntu documentation21:02
MrAnthropeLike when you get hit in Modern Warfare?21:04
MrAnthropeYou've been shot, duck!21:04
reaper_how do I remove files from the filesystem and the home dir that are locked?21:06
MrAnthropeYour home dir shouldn't have locked files in it.21:07
kristian-aalborgMrAnthrope: actually, something like that21:08
MrAnthropeYou should be able to right click those and go to properties and I think there's a permissions tab.21:08
MrAnthropekristian-aalborg: DUCK!!!21:08
kristian-aalborg;)21:08
reaper_it does21:09
MrAnthropebut your filesystem is locked for a reason and that's a bit harder to delete files from. I'm not sure I can explain how to do that. CLI stuff.21:09
reaper_yeah I know that21:09
reaper_the files that I want to remove are from a game im trying to install but its not working21:09
MrAnthropeNow you've piqued my interest. :)21:10
reaper_?21:10
MrAnthropeWhat game?21:10
reaper_doom 321:10
yofelreaper_: how did you install it? or do you mean 'permission denied' with 'locked' ?21:11
MrAnthropeAre you using wine?21:11
yofelkristian-aalborg: the official grub2 documentation?21:11
yofelI mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - since any grub1 documentation is invalid for grub221:11
kristian-aalborghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution21:12
kristian-aalborgnope, ubuntu - still rather bad21:12
reaper_I downloaded the doom3-linux-1.1.3.1304.x86.run from id and installed it that way in 3 different locations on my hard drive and now I cant do what I need to do21:12
kristian-aalborgvga= is gone, as I understand it21:12
reaper_MrAnthrope, no dont think im using wine21:13
MrAnthropeOh I didn't know doom 3 was linux native.21:13
yofelnot sure then, I remember grub2 giving 'setting vbe= is deprecated' messages in karmic though so I stopped using that, stopped working for me anyway back then21:13
yofeler, 'setting vga= is deprecated', been a long time21:14
kristian-aalborgyes - but look at the link!21:14
kristian-aalborgif anyone here can edit, please do so! Mark will thank you!21:14
reaper_MrAnthrope, yeah I have installed it before and never had a problem but for some reason its not work and Doom 3 runs better in linux than win21:15
MrAnthropeI think if you go to your terminal and type sudo nautilus you can navigate to the folder where you installed the game and delete it from there. I'm not sure that will work though.21:16
yofelwell, that's community documentation so anyone with a wiki acc. can change that, would need some investigation though, as I think payload is only supported since lucid21:16
reaper_MrAnthrope,  Ill give it a try21:16
yofelif you run nautilus with sudo you can delete pretty much everything, better would be to run 'sudo chown $USER:$USER -R $HOME' and then delete them without sudo21:19
yofelif you installed it in your home folder, if not you'll have to use sudo anyway21:19
MrAnthropeYeah that's the CLI stuff I was saying I couldn't explain how to do :)21:19
MrAnthropeI just know never type sudo apt-get remove plymouth :D21:20
reaper_ok got them all deleted21:21
reaper_thanks21:21
MrAnthropeCool, that actually worked?21:21
MrAnthropeShot in the dark.21:21
reaper_you never know until you try21:22
yofelMrAnthrope: that wouldn't work anyway, unless you explicitely force apt to remove half of the system21:22
MrAnthropeYup.21:24
MrAnthropeHave done it.21:24
yofeloh, my condolences21:24
MrAnthropeSomeone told me to :)21:24
MrAnthrope"But why is it removing chrome?" "...you can reinstall it."21:24
yofelwell, it *did* work back in lucid I think, but then they mad that mandatory21:24
yofel*made21:25
MrAnthropeYeah it wasn't malicious. They didn't know it would delete half my computer either lol.21:25
MrAnthropeLuckily I had *just* installed it. So no loss.21:25
MrAnthropeJust re-installed.21:25
reaper_yes I got it to work21:29
yofel\o/21:29
reaper_their needs to be a easy way to play games on linux21:30
MrAnthropeAmen21:31
MrAnthropeANet actively develops Guild Wars to work in wine. It was easier to install GW on Linux than it was Windows.21:31
MrAnthropeThough I had to do some tweaking to get the graphics settings right for my old computer :(21:31
reaper_I still cant get WoW to install21:32
reaper_havent ever played guild wars21:32
MrAnthropeI'm hoping Guild Wars 2 will also be actively developed for wine.21:32
reaper_hopeful21:32
MrAnthropeIt's not WoW but it's fun.21:33
kristian-aalborgyofel: I still think something's amiss - I have to be SU to open fbi, for instance21:33
MrAnthropeI personally don't enjoy grinding. I give up after 5 minutes.21:33
reaper_I wish game developers would take the time like id did and do a linux install21:33
MrAnthropeSo I played WoW in 5 minute intervals for a month and I was like ... this is stupid why am I paying for something I don't want to do.21:33
yofelkristian-aalborg: what's fbi?21:34
reaper_Ive been trying to get a number of games to work for 2 or 3 days now21:34
kristian-aalborga picture viewer for the terminal - it's rather cool, actually ;)21:34
MrAnthropeGW and GW2 don't have monthly membership requirements. You buy the game, you own it forever.21:34
kristian-aalborg!fbi21:34
ubot2Factoid 'fbi' not found21:34
MrAnthropeIt took me 3 days to get Dungeons & Dragons Online working.21:34
kristian-aalborgstupid ubot221:34
MrAnthropelol kristian-aalborg :)21:35
yofel*shrug*, I haven't used ttys for anything other than text21:35
yofelalso it's21:35
yofel!info fbi21:35
ubot2yofel: fbi (source: fbi): Linux frame buffer image viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.07-3 (maverick), package size 54 kB, installed size 180 kB21:35
reaper_well thats good I might have to look into them then21:35
kristian-aalborgtada21:35
kristian-aalborgyofel: CLI is fun21:35
MrAnthropeDDO is completely free to play. They have an in game store and some of the content is purchase only. And you only get 2 character slots per server.21:35
yofelsure, but I still prefer X :P21:35
MrAnthropeBut you can pay $15 a month if you want and they give you some junk.21:36
reaper_does it work in linux21:36
MrAnthropeIt's a bit of work, but yeah.21:36
MrAnthropeThere's also a linux guild on the Sarlona server called Tux Familiar.21:36
reaper_ive been trying for days to get lsat chaos to work and now we are not seeing eye to eye21:37
MrAnthropeThe game itself works just fine except voice chat. The launcher is the problem. The launcher does not work at all, so there is a linux native launcher.21:37
reaper_for what21:38
MrAnthropeDDO21:38
reaper_ok21:38
MrAnthropeNever heard of Last Chaos.21:38
reaper_its a free mmo from aeriagames21:38
MrAnthropeIf you look on WineHQ for Dungeons and Dragons Online there is a lot of info there.21:39
MrAnthropeI played an aeria game once...21:39
MrAnthropecan't remember the name of it. But it was really dumb lol21:39
reaper_yeah that is a lot of the other one but it doesnt work for me21:39
reaper_right21:39
MrAnthropeThe problem is game developers target windows because it's a larger audience.21:40
MrAnthropeAnd it would cost money to develop for another OS.21:41
reaper_yeah that maybe true but i would like to be able to choose and they may fine that they have more people play their games on linux than win21:41
reaper_and for the people that are only staying on win to play games can come home21:42
reaper_too linux21:44
MrAnthropehehe21:44
reaper_what its true21:47
MrAnthropeIf more people start using Ubuntu, maybe.21:48
reaper_maybe21:49
kristian-aalborgyofel: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Custom_Menu - does this seem ok to you?21:52
MrAnthropeOh by the way reaper_ the launcher for DDO is called pyLOTR21:55
MrAnthropeIf you were interested.21:55
reaper_ok thanks ill check it out o and btw been does guild wars 2 come out21:57
MrAnthropeNo release date yet.21:57
MrAnthrope"soon"21:57
reaper_ok thanks21:58
kristian-aalborgholy smokes.... links2 graphical might be the fastest "real" browser I've seen!22:16
Silver_Fox_Hello.22:55
nlsthznSilver_Fox_: Hi *waves*22:56
Silver_Fox_Hello nlsthzn22:56
Silver_Fox_How are you?22:59
nlsthznSilver_Fox_: Always good, and yourself?23:02
Silver_Fox_I am fine thank you23:02
yofelkristian-aalborg: doesn't look wrong at first sight, but haven't tried something like that yet23:09
kristian-aalborgthanks23:10
* kristian-aalborg is out23:10

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