[05:52] <kdas> does anyone know what classifies an item as "technical item"
[05:55] <micahg> kdas: well, here's the wiki page on Software center: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter, it might be on there
[07:15] <kdas> anyone else?
[08:42] <Keybuk> http://upstart.at/2010/12/20/the-importance-of-being-tested/
[08:42] <Keybuk> ^ cjwatson: do you think my point here is too subtle? :-)
[08:46] <ebroder> Keybuk: I'm not seeing much subtlety in that post :-P
[09:58] <kennetham> hi does anyone knows how to set socks proxy in ubuntu terminal? network proxy set for web browsers but terminal does not seem to take effect.
[09:58] <kennetham> i have tried most channels especially #ubuntu but nobody seems to be responding.
[09:58] <kennetham> please advise
[10:01] <tumbleweed> kennetham: there is no standard environment variable for socks proxies like http_proxy. You can use something like tsocks.
[11:14] <xnox> micahg, the new "GREMaxVer" and "GREMinVer" in xulrunner-2.0-dev pacakge are broken. There is a "stray" "-e" which prevents queriying GREMinVer
[11:14] <xnox> that's in libxul-embedding.pc
[11:52] <sivang> hi all, is there a channelf for jokosher development?
[12:12] <apw> has anyone reported that avahi hostname resolution is not working at all (in or out) for natty machines
[12:20] <sherbieny> Hello
[12:20] <sherbieny> can anyone tell me why I'm banned from ubuntu
[12:21] <sherbieny> I didn't do anything
[12:21] <cjwatson> this is not an escalation channel for problems in #ubuntu
[12:21] <cjwatson> try (I think) #ubuntu-ops
[12:21] <sherbieny> thanks
[12:24] <Keybuk> now if only people not doing anything was a valid excuse to ban them from ubuntu-devel ;-)
[13:01] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: heh, I was going to upload a -proposed evolution to maverick to fix this: bug 611983
[13:01] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: but, I was too late apparently :)
[13:02] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: are you preparing something for lucid also?
[13:09] <cyphermox> mdeslaur, I don't remember uploading a fix for that?
[13:12] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: no, you didn't...I just meant you know have an update in -proposed, so I can't upload it :)
[13:12] <mdeslaur> s/know/now/
[13:12] <cyphermox> ah
[13:13] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: I would like to upload that fix to lucid though, and want to know if you are working on evo packages for lucid
[13:13] <cyphermox> mdeslaur, nope, you can go ahead
[13:13] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: cool, thanks
[13:14] <mdeslaur> hmm...now I need to figure out the procedure with the package that's already in lucid-proposed :P
[13:15] <cyphermox> oops ;)
[13:17] <mdeslaur> slangasek: so, there's an evolution package in lucid-proposed that doesn't fix an issue. I put a NACK in the -proposed bug (229187). I now have an unrelated fix I would like to upload to -proposed. What is the procedure? Can I just upload over it, or do I need the sru team's blessing, or what?
[14:12] <Keybuk> OMG!
[14:12] <Keybuk> How did I not know about dprintf() ?
[15:16] <joaopinto> hi
[15:16] <joaopinto> is there a known problem with the installer from the 18th daily ?
[15:17] <hyperair> what's dprintf?
[15:19]  * sladen suspects an application-specific debug-print-formatted
[15:19] <Keybuk> hyperair: printf to a file descriptor
[15:19] <Keybuk> ie. fprintf but to an int
[15:19] <hyperair> Keybuk: ooh. that is awesome.
[15:19] <hyperair> Keybuk: not fdprintf?
[15:19] <hyperair> Keybuk: i know of fdopen though (which can then be used with fprintf)
[15:21] <Keybuk> well, kinda
[15:21] <Keybuk> fdopen creates a FILE * for a socket/file descriptor
[15:21] <Keybuk> which means that it's buffered
[15:21] <Keybuk> so fprintf may not be written or completely writtten
[15:23] <hyperair> ah i see.
[16:04] <hallyn> soren: I had thought that 'bzr co lp:vmbuilder' gave me trunk, but i see it does not.  Is it safe to assume that all changes in lp:vmbuilder should be made to trunk (also, or probably first)?
[16:23] <lool> cjwatson: Hey; for flash-kernel I made sure we could still backport it to older Ubuntu releases which use uboot-mkimage instead of u-boot, but do we care about backports of debian-installer?  (uboot-mkimage is a build-dep)  I would think not
[16:24] <lool> Sorry, I should probably ask on #ubuntu-installer
[16:25] <cjwatson> joaopinto: would you care to be specific?
[16:25] <cjwatson> lool: I don't care
[16:28] <lool> cjwatson: Thanks; pushed to bzr then
[16:45] <joaopinto> cjwatson, the installer fails with an "unexpected installer problem"
[16:46] <cjwatson> joaopinto: logs?
[16:46] <cjwatson> also, which CD?
[16:46] <joaopinto> jcastro was able to reproduce it using testdrive
[16:46] <joaopinto> 18th Dec
[16:46] <cjwatson> "daily" is insufficient, we produce quite a few CDs daily!
[16:46] <cjwatson> desktop, alternate, server, ...?  Ubuntu, Kubuntu, ...?  i386, amd64, ...?
[16:46] <joaopinto> I have looked into /var/log/installer, couldn't find anything useful
[16:46] <joaopinto> desktop i386
[16:47] <cjwatson> couldn't find anything you understood, you mean? :-)
[16:47] <cjwatson> surely syslog at least is there
[16:47] <joaopinto>  nothing "abnormal"
[16:47] <cjwatson> I can only investigate if you let me look at the logs directly
[16:47] <joaopinto> I just checked the installer logs, not the regular logs, since it was the installer reporting the error
[16:47] <cjwatson> actually, on the desktop CD /var/log/syslog is the main useful one
[16:48] <joaopinto> ok, I am traverling now, later I will reinstall and tar /var/log
[16:48] <cjwatson> since we aren't close to a milestone right now, though, it's not too surprising for a daily build to be busted, TBH
[16:49] <cjwatson> but I'll rsync and see if I can reproduce it here
[16:49] <joaopinto> ok, thanks
[16:49]  * highvoltage installed the edubuntu desktop daily image this morning and it was just fine though
[16:49] <cjwatson> joaopinto: BTW, Ubuntu desktop i386, or something else?  you just said "desktop i386"
[16:49] <joaopinto> ubuntu desktop
[16:49] <cjwatson> could've been a temporary problem
[16:49] <cjwatson> I didn't do any test installations on Saturday
[16:49] <joaopinto> I have retried 2 times
[16:50] <cjwatson> temporary here means "specific to that build" not "if you try again it will go away"
[16:51] <joaopinto> right, i'll see if I can, recreate the iso from the usb, update, and refresh the usb
[16:51] <joaopinto> bbl
[16:51] <joaopinto> is just that i feel that will be just as random as assuming it was a temporary failure :P
[16:55] <slangasek> mdeslaur: just upload over it
[16:56] <mdeslaur> slangasek: thanks
[16:56] <cjwatson> *now* he says it was an installation from USB
[16:57] <cjwatson> I DO wish people would give detail up-front
[16:57] <jcastro> 2010-12-20 amd64 desktop works in testdrive
[17:43] <joaopinto> I forgot my usb pen, I will not be able to retest the installer crash today :(
[17:43] <cjwatson> jcastro said "2010-12-20 amd64 desktop works in testdrive"
[17:45] <mvo> I did a install today desktop amd64 and that worked, I used grub loop to boot into it from the hdd directly though, so its probably not very representative
[17:45] <joaopinto> ah ok, I will need to update the image
[17:47] <cjwatson> could of course be USB-specific
[17:50] <joaopinto> there was another issue, the installer launched a new unity session to allow to diagnose the problem
[17:50] <joaopinto> but the menu does not work on that new session
[17:54] <cjwatson> please file these as bugs rather than mentioning them on IRC - I don't know about anyone else but I have one work day left for the year and have a hard time fitting in the stuff I already know about :-)
[17:56] <joaopinto> ok, will do
[18:16] <ScottK> micahg: Would you mind looking at the packagekit FTBFS.  It fails on some mozilla related file being missing and I was wondering if you understood what was up with that.
[18:56] <micahg> ScottK: I'd be happy to take a look later tongith
[18:56] <ScottK> micahg: Thanks.
[18:57] <highvoltage> cjwatson: hey there, I need to add the edubuntu-text theme to the plymouth package
[18:57] <highvoltage> cjwatson: is the right way to do it by getting the bzr branch, adding the theme to the (quite big) quilt diff and then proposing the merge again in launchpad?
[18:58] <cjwatson> yeah
[18:58] <highvoltage> ok
[18:58] <cjwatson> use the various quilt commands and then quilt refresh at the end
[19:32] <thebishop> anyone know why autocomplete doesn't work with Make?
[19:32] <thebishop> bash tab-completion i mean
[21:35] <Vardan> hi
[21:36] <Vardan> people how can I download/checkout ubuntu-installer and build own root CD?
[21:37] <Vardan> root=boot
[22:10] <SpamapS> Vardan: you could try live-builder
[22:11] <SpamapS> err
[22:11] <SpamapS> I don't know how to find that though.. hmm
[22:11] <SpamapS> Vardan: I mean, live-helper
[23:21] <geser> at little OT for here: but does someone know if it's on purpose that the wiki looks different if one is logged in or not?
[23:21] <ebroder> geser: You can change it by going into your preferences
[23:21] <geser> oh
[23:21] <ebroder> They created a new theme and made it the default theme, but that didn't change the theme for any users already in the database