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ftais the rhythmbox indicator gone in natty??10:08
ftaoh, it's bug 69155610:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 691556 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[natty] rhythmbox doesn't appear in indicator-sound menu anymore (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69155610:14
ftadpm, hi, chromium (daily) is usable in Basque and Galician now \o/13:14
ftadpm, i should probably blog myself about all this...13:15
dpmfta, oh, these are truly awesome news!13:15
dpmfta, yeah, have you been thinking about starting a blog? :)13:15
ftadpm, yep, just need to select one, and start writing13:16
dpmcool ;)13:16
ftawordpress? google?13:16
ftai really have no idea13:16
dpmWP13:16
dpm(IMHO)13:17
ftadpm, did you read what i said to Tony?13:20
dpmfta, I did, but judging by his last comment, I think he won't be replying until January13:22
ftadpm, i meant, the part where i said that i will only land new langs with enough coverage in stable releases13:23
ftamaybe that will encourage translators to speed up :)13:23
dpmfta, right. Sure, but we'd need to document this (i.e. what's enough coverage, 80%?) somewhere13:24
ftadpm, yep, i'm not yet sure how to judge that, most probably per template13:25
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ftadpm, \o/ formatted comments: https://translations.qastaging.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+pots/generated-resources/sr/+translate?batch=213:31
dpmfta, ah, great, it looks so much nicer now :)13:32
ftajcastro, you're triaging the unity bugs? ;)14:21
jcastroheh14:21
ftajcastro, i filled two this morning, but i'm afraid it's still far from usable for me14:25
ftabut i keep trying.. each time i reboot on a new kernel14:26
jcastrofta: it's coming along, I am happy with how far it is along in alpha14:33
jcastrothe launcher part and performance is already better than what was in 10.1014:33
ftasure, on my netbook, it was really too slow14:34
ftabut here, i see giant launchers, and not much else. feature wise, there still a huge gap to fill up14:35
ftawell, for my use case anyway14:35
jcastroyeah the dash thing isn't connected up yet (alpha 2)14:35
jcastroand the launcher will autohide, which makes it so much nicer to use since it's not in the way14:35
chrisccoulsoni already run with autohide on :)14:35
jcastrome too14:37
ftajcastro, i read your post the autohide stuff, searched for it this morning, but couldn't find it14:38
fta+about14:38
jcastrofta: the option is in ccsm in the unity plugin14:38
ftaoh14:38
ftamiddle click was doing something weird, irrc14:38
ftaiirc14:38
jcastroyeah I only go in there to turn it on, clicking on anything else makes compiz blow up for me usually14:39
ftajcastro, what do you think of bug 692462?14:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 692462 in unity "unity confused with chromium web apps (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69246214:45
ftait seems they are trying to detect which launcher to highlight just by looking at the process name and/or desktop file14:46
ftachrisccoulson, ^^14:46
chrisccoulsoni think they are using the process name ;)14:48
chrisccoulsonasac looked at something similar already14:48
chrisccoulsonin any case, the current behaviour isn't right14:48
chrisccoulsonfta - do the chromium windows get a unique WM_CLASS?14:49
ftanot sure14:49
chrisccoulsonjcastro, i opened a bug for supporting the unity panel menu in mozilla now14:54
chrisccoulsonhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61989914:54
ubot2Mozilla bug 619899 in Widget: Gtk "Support the panel based menubar in Unity" [Enhancement,New]14:54
jcastrochrisccoulson: good good, I was thinking about doing one for chromium, but then decided that it's too early, that and I should ask fta what he thinks14:59
jcastroalso, fta, it would be cool when you do app mode in chrome, if you could add to the launcher instead of the option for the desktop14:59
ftathe global menu stuff?15:00
ftachromium doesn't really have a menu bar15:01
jcastroright, so it shows nothing up there15:02
jcastroI figured it would be like on the mac, where they export the menu from the button to the top panel anyway15:02
ftai remember Evan already talked about that15:05
jcastrowhat'd he say?15:05
jcastro(though to me personally the appmode stuff is more important than the menu since I don't use the menu in chromium anyway)15:05
ftasomething like it's too early, (our) specs not complete15:05
ftathe global menu is a nuisance to me, because i use the follow focus mode15:06
ftaand on a 24" screen, i don't maximize my windows, so that menu doesn't work at all15:07
jcastroI am waiting for it to be better on multiple screens, it's annoying right now if I have something maximized on the second screen15:08
ftajcastro, found this: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=3021315:10
jcastroya15:11
ftahow to attract someone's attention for bug 691556?  most probably ayatana15:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 691556 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[natty] rhythmbox doesn't appear in indicator-sound menu anymore (affects: 4) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69155615:21
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chrisccoulsonjcastro, tbh, i guess it might be me who ends up doing the menu support for chromium too ;)15:36
jcastroheh15:38
mdeslaurfta: rhythmbox is currently unbuildable as libindicate failed to build for the gir transition16:02
mdeslaurfta: I had planned to take a look, but that needs to be resolved first16:03
micahgchrisccoulson: from xnox in #ubuntu-devel  (05:14:15 AM) xnox: micahg, the new "GREMaxVer" and "GREMinVer" in xulrunner-2.0-dev pacakge are broken. There is a "stray" "-e" which prevents queriying GREMinVer16:05
micahg(05:14:34 AM) xnox: that's in libxul-embedding.pc16:05
chrisccoulsonoh, i hadn't had a chance to test that yet ;)16:06
micahgoh, well I guess someone did16:06
micahg:(16:06
chrisccoulsonyeah, i see16:06
chrisccoulsoni'll fix that in a bit, i need to fix an upgrade failure too16:06
micahgchrisccoulson: ah, ok16:07
micahgjdstrand: I tried running seamonkey through the test-browser.py, but it kept hanging after the embedded odp file16:07
jdstrandmicahg: sounds like oo.o didn't close properly16:08
micahgjdstrand: yeah, it seems like it was hung16:08
micahgI couldn't seem to get it to close, so I just did some basic usage testing after that16:09
jdstrandmicahg: that is odd. I've used 'test-browser.py -e seamonkey' in the past. I doubt it is perfect, but it should basically work16:10
micahgjdstrand: ok, could be user failure :)16:10
jdstrandmicahg: did you have oo.o open somewhere else? what about autostart? I always test these in a clean vm16:10
micahgjdstrand: yeah, it wasn't in a clean VM, so maybe that's it16:10
jdstrandmicahg: as you've seen, the test-browser.py walks you through the process. eg, the png test fires up firefox. you must close firefox to proceed to the next test16:11
micahgyep, I got through about 15 tests16:11
jdstrandmicahg: for oo.o, firefox launches a helper, in this case oo.o, and the helper opens16:11
jdstrandmicahg: you must then close both the browser and oo.o to go to the next test16:12
jdstrandmicahg: if oo.o didn't shut down correctly, it will do like you described (this actually happens with epiphany and the multimedia files tests (I believe chrisccoulson is working on fixing that))16:13
jdstrandmicahg: so with epiphany, I have to kill the totem-plugin-viewer from outside the test (I could automate that, but hope to see a fix)16:13
chrisccoulsonyeah, i really need to figure out what's going on there :/16:13
jdstrandmicahg: in your case, look at ps output for any stray oo.o processes16:13
chrisccoulsoni have an idea, but never got round to finishing my investigation ;)16:14
jdstrandk16:14
ftachrisccoulson, no hit for WM_CLASS in the ch src tree16:14
chrisccoulsonfta - oh, it probably wouldn't be there, it would probably be set via another API (perhaps GTK)16:15
chrisccoulsonfta - just try running xprop on the chromium windows instead16:15
ftachrisccoulson, WM_CLASS(STRING) = "chromium-browser", "Chromium-browser"16:16
ftachrisccoulson, same for a webapp :(16:17
chrisccoulsonhmmm, so it would probably be pretty difficult to match a window to a specific desktop file :/16:17
ftait's probably fixable16:18
micahgchrisccoulson: BTW, build system will need an overhaul for fennec, I started on it, once I figure out what needs to be in there, I probably have to talk to upstream about what should be in build/ and what can't be moved there16:48
micahgjdstrand: ok, seamonkey passed most of the tests, since this is the first time I ran it, I don't have a baseline yet, but I think it's fine to update17:15
jdstrandmicahg: is that for all the releases?18:06
micahgjdstrand: I actually just tested on maverick, do you want me to test on more?  (will be later this week then)18:56
jdstrandmicahg: we need to test all the compiled binaries, yes18:56
micahgjdstrand: I should be able to use a chroot for this, right?18:57
jdstrandmicahg: I can push maverick's out today though18:57
micahgjdstrand: If I can test in the chroot's I have, I can test the rest later tonight18:57
jdstrandmicahg: maybe? I don't really use chroots anymore. You can see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/TestingEnvironment for one way to setup vms18:58
chrisccoulsoni'm wondering whether we should try and get the guy who maintains the seamonkey PPA to help out with these updates......18:58
jdstrandwell, I don't use chroots for testing anymore. I use them for builds and other things all the time18:58
micahgchrisccoulson: well, one person agreed to try them in a semi=prod env18:58
jdstrandchrisccoulson: that sounds like a grand idea18:58
chrisccoulsonthat's cool, but that would be useful on a more regular basis ;)18:58
micahgjdstrand: I'm limltted on disk space and CPU power ATM, so VMs are difficu;18:58
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, there is someone who maintains seamonkey on all releases, and AFAICT, it only really existed to provide the latest seamonkey version to every ubuntu release18:59
chrisccoulsonwhich we do anyway18:59
chrisccoulsonso his effort is probably better spent on helping us out ;)18:59
chrisccoulsoni might send him an e-mail18:59
micahgchrisccoulson: I tried to get him to help before, he didn't want to deal with our complicated processes or something to that effect19:00
chrisccoulsonhmmmm :/19:00
micahgjdstrand: so, I'll test the rest in my chroots tonight and let you know19:00
micahgchrisccoulson: I wanted him to help with the SM 2.0 transition, but he got scared away19:01
micahgchrisccoulson: maybe it's worth another shot though19:01
micahgok, bbiab19:01
chrisccoulsonyeah, i might drop him an e-mail19:01
jdstrandmicahg: seamonkey on maverick pushed19:03
ftado we really have seamonkey users?19:23
ftapopcon shows 14k installs (0.78%) but 0 frequently used19:23
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ftaand 12 infrequently used19:23
ftamdeslaur, do you know if someone is actively working on fixing libindicate?19:39
mdeslaurfta: I don't know, sorry19:39
ftaok, n-p19:39
mdeslaurfta: you should ask the last uploader19:42
ftamdeslaur, well, i initially had my doubts about rb being fixed as it's no longer a target for natty, but libindicate sure is, so i'll wait ;)19:44
mdeslaurfta: oh, I'm a rhythmbox user, so I'll definitely take a look at it :P19:45
ftamdeslaur, me too, and i have no plan to move to banshee19:45
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