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fta | is the rhythmbox indicator gone in natty?? | 10:08 |
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fta | oh, it's bug 691556 | 10:14 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 691556 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[natty] rhythmbox doesn't appear in indicator-sound menu anymore (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691556 | 10:14 |
fta | dpm, hi, chromium (daily) is usable in Basque and Galician now \o/ | 13:14 |
fta | dpm, i should probably blog myself about all this... | 13:15 |
dpm | fta, oh, these are truly awesome news! | 13:15 |
dpm | fta, yeah, have you been thinking about starting a blog? :) | 13:15 |
fta | dpm, yep, just need to select one, and start writing | 13:16 |
dpm | cool ;) | 13:16 |
fta | wordpress? google? | 13:16 |
fta | i really have no idea | 13:16 |
dpm | WP | 13:16 |
dpm | (IMHO) | 13:17 |
fta | dpm, did you read what i said to Tony? | 13:20 |
dpm | fta, I did, but judging by his last comment, I think he won't be replying until January | 13:22 |
fta | dpm, i meant, the part where i said that i will only land new langs with enough coverage in stable releases | 13:23 |
fta | maybe that will encourage translators to speed up :) | 13:23 |
dpm | fta, right. Sure, but we'd need to document this (i.e. what's enough coverage, 80%?) somewhere | 13:24 |
fta | dpm, yep, i'm not yet sure how to judge that, most probably per template | 13:25 |
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fta | dpm, \o/ formatted comments: https://translations.qastaging.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+pots/generated-resources/sr/+translate?batch=2 | 13:31 |
dpm | fta, ah, great, it looks so much nicer now :) | 13:32 |
fta | jcastro, you're triaging the unity bugs? ;) | 14:21 |
jcastro | heh | 14:21 |
fta | jcastro, i filled two this morning, but i'm afraid it's still far from usable for me | 14:25 |
fta | but i keep trying.. each time i reboot on a new kernel | 14:26 |
jcastro | fta: it's coming along, I am happy with how far it is along in alpha | 14:33 |
jcastro | the launcher part and performance is already better than what was in 10.10 | 14:33 |
fta | sure, on my netbook, it was really too slow | 14:34 |
fta | but here, i see giant launchers, and not much else. feature wise, there still a huge gap to fill up | 14:35 |
fta | well, for my use case anyway | 14:35 |
jcastro | yeah the dash thing isn't connected up yet (alpha 2) | 14:35 |
jcastro | and the launcher will autohide, which makes it so much nicer to use since it's not in the way | 14:35 |
chrisccoulson | i already run with autohide on :) | 14:35 |
jcastro | me too | 14:37 |
fta | jcastro, i read your post the autohide stuff, searched for it this morning, but couldn't find it | 14:38 |
fta | +about | 14:38 |
jcastro | fta: the option is in ccsm in the unity plugin | 14:38 |
fta | oh | 14:38 |
fta | middle click was doing something weird, irrc | 14:38 |
fta | iirc | 14:38 |
jcastro | yeah I only go in there to turn it on, clicking on anything else makes compiz blow up for me usually | 14:39 |
fta | jcastro, what do you think of bug 692462? | 14:45 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 692462 in unity "unity confused with chromium web apps (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692462 | 14:45 |
fta | it seems they are trying to detect which launcher to highlight just by looking at the process name and/or desktop file | 14:46 |
fta | chrisccoulson, ^^ | 14:46 |
chrisccoulson | i think they are using the process name ;) | 14:48 |
chrisccoulson | asac looked at something similar already | 14:48 |
chrisccoulson | in any case, the current behaviour isn't right | 14:48 |
chrisccoulson | fta - do the chromium windows get a unique WM_CLASS? | 14:49 |
fta | not sure | 14:49 |
chrisccoulson | jcastro, i opened a bug for supporting the unity panel menu in mozilla now | 14:54 |
chrisccoulson | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619899 | 14:54 |
ubot2 | Mozilla bug 619899 in Widget: Gtk "Support the panel based menubar in Unity" [Enhancement,New] | 14:54 |
jcastro | chrisccoulson: good good, I was thinking about doing one for chromium, but then decided that it's too early, that and I should ask fta what he thinks | 14:59 |
jcastro | also, fta, it would be cool when you do app mode in chrome, if you could add to the launcher instead of the option for the desktop | 14:59 |
fta | the global menu stuff? | 15:00 |
fta | chromium doesn't really have a menu bar | 15:01 |
jcastro | right, so it shows nothing up there | 15:02 |
jcastro | I figured it would be like on the mac, where they export the menu from the button to the top panel anyway | 15:02 |
fta | i remember Evan already talked about that | 15:05 |
jcastro | what'd he say? | 15:05 |
jcastro | (though to me personally the appmode stuff is more important than the menu since I don't use the menu in chromium anyway) | 15:05 |
fta | something like it's too early, (our) specs not complete | 15:05 |
fta | the global menu is a nuisance to me, because i use the follow focus mode | 15:06 |
fta | and on a 24" screen, i don't maximize my windows, so that menu doesn't work at all | 15:07 |
jcastro | I am waiting for it to be better on multiple screens, it's annoying right now if I have something maximized on the second screen | 15:08 |
fta | jcastro, found this: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=30213 | 15:10 |
jcastro | ya | 15:11 |
fta | how to attract someone's attention for bug 691556? most probably ayatana | 15:21 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 691556 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[natty] rhythmbox doesn't appear in indicator-sound menu anymore (affects: 4) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691556 | 15:21 |
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chrisccoulson | jcastro, tbh, i guess it might be me who ends up doing the menu support for chromium too ;) | 15:36 |
jcastro | heh | 15:38 |
mdeslaur | fta: rhythmbox is currently unbuildable as libindicate failed to build for the gir transition | 16:02 |
mdeslaur | fta: I had planned to take a look, but that needs to be resolved first | 16:03 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: from xnox in #ubuntu-devel (05:14:15 AM) xnox: micahg, the new "GREMaxVer" and "GREMinVer" in xulrunner-2.0-dev pacakge are broken. There is a "stray" "-e" which prevents queriying GREMinVer | 16:05 |
micahg | (05:14:34 AM) xnox: that's in libxul-embedding.pc | 16:05 |
chrisccoulson | oh, i hadn't had a chance to test that yet ;) | 16:06 |
micahg | oh, well I guess someone did | 16:06 |
micahg | :( | 16:06 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i see | 16:06 |
chrisccoulson | i'll fix that in a bit, i need to fix an upgrade failure too | 16:06 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: ah, ok | 16:07 |
micahg | jdstrand: I tried running seamonkey through the test-browser.py, but it kept hanging after the embedded odp file | 16:07 |
jdstrand | micahg: sounds like oo.o didn't close properly | 16:08 |
micahg | jdstrand: yeah, it seems like it was hung | 16:08 |
micahg | I couldn't seem to get it to close, so I just did some basic usage testing after that | 16:09 |
jdstrand | micahg: that is odd. I've used 'test-browser.py -e seamonkey' in the past. I doubt it is perfect, but it should basically work | 16:10 |
micahg | jdstrand: ok, could be user failure :) | 16:10 |
jdstrand | micahg: did you have oo.o open somewhere else? what about autostart? I always test these in a clean vm | 16:10 |
micahg | jdstrand: yeah, it wasn't in a clean VM, so maybe that's it | 16:10 |
jdstrand | micahg: as you've seen, the test-browser.py walks you through the process. eg, the png test fires up firefox. you must close firefox to proceed to the next test | 16:11 |
micahg | yep, I got through about 15 tests | 16:11 |
jdstrand | micahg: for oo.o, firefox launches a helper, in this case oo.o, and the helper opens | 16:11 |
jdstrand | micahg: you must then close both the browser and oo.o to go to the next test | 16:12 |
jdstrand | micahg: if oo.o didn't shut down correctly, it will do like you described (this actually happens with epiphany and the multimedia files tests (I believe chrisccoulson is working on fixing that)) | 16:13 |
jdstrand | micahg: so with epiphany, I have to kill the totem-plugin-viewer from outside the test (I could automate that, but hope to see a fix) | 16:13 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i really need to figure out what's going on there :/ | 16:13 |
jdstrand | micahg: in your case, look at ps output for any stray oo.o processes | 16:13 |
chrisccoulson | i have an idea, but never got round to finishing my investigation ;) | 16:14 |
jdstrand | k | 16:14 |
fta | chrisccoulson, no hit for WM_CLASS in the ch src tree | 16:14 |
chrisccoulson | fta - oh, it probably wouldn't be there, it would probably be set via another API (perhaps GTK) | 16:15 |
chrisccoulson | fta - just try running xprop on the chromium windows instead | 16:15 |
fta | chrisccoulson, WM_CLASS(STRING) = "chromium-browser", "Chromium-browser" | 16:16 |
fta | chrisccoulson, same for a webapp :( | 16:17 |
chrisccoulson | hmmm, so it would probably be pretty difficult to match a window to a specific desktop file :/ | 16:17 |
fta | it's probably fixable | 16:18 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, build system will need an overhaul for fennec, I started on it, once I figure out what needs to be in there, I probably have to talk to upstream about what should be in build/ and what can't be moved there | 16:48 |
micahg | jdstrand: ok, seamonkey passed most of the tests, since this is the first time I ran it, I don't have a baseline yet, but I think it's fine to update | 17:15 |
jdstrand | micahg: is that for all the releases? | 18:06 |
micahg | jdstrand: I actually just tested on maverick, do you want me to test on more? (will be later this week then) | 18:56 |
jdstrand | micahg: we need to test all the compiled binaries, yes | 18:56 |
micahg | jdstrand: I should be able to use a chroot for this, right? | 18:57 |
jdstrand | micahg: I can push maverick's out today though | 18:57 |
micahg | jdstrand: If I can test in the chroot's I have, I can test the rest later tonight | 18:57 |
jdstrand | micahg: maybe? I don't really use chroots anymore. You can see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/TestingEnvironment for one way to setup vms | 18:58 |
chrisccoulson | i'm wondering whether we should try and get the guy who maintains the seamonkey PPA to help out with these updates...... | 18:58 |
jdstrand | well, I don't use chroots for testing anymore. I use them for builds and other things all the time | 18:58 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: well, one person agreed to try them in a semi=prod env | 18:58 |
jdstrand | chrisccoulson: that sounds like a grand idea | 18:58 |
chrisccoulson | that's cool, but that would be useful on a more regular basis ;) | 18:58 |
micahg | jdstrand: I'm limltted on disk space and CPU power ATM, so VMs are difficu; | 18:58 |
chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, there is someone who maintains seamonkey on all releases, and AFAICT, it only really existed to provide the latest seamonkey version to every ubuntu release | 18:59 |
chrisccoulson | which we do anyway | 18:59 |
chrisccoulson | so his effort is probably better spent on helping us out ;) | 18:59 |
chrisccoulson | i might send him an e-mail | 18:59 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: I tried to get him to help before, he didn't want to deal with our complicated processes or something to that effect | 19:00 |
chrisccoulson | hmmmm :/ | 19:00 |
micahg | jdstrand: so, I'll test the rest in my chroots tonight and let you know | 19:00 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: I wanted him to help with the SM 2.0 transition, but he got scared away | 19:01 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: maybe it's worth another shot though | 19:01 |
micahg | ok, bbiab | 19:01 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i might drop him an e-mail | 19:01 |
jdstrand | micahg: seamonkey on maverick pushed | 19:03 |
fta | do we really have seamonkey users? | 19:23 |
fta | popcon shows 14k installs (0.78%) but 0 frequently used | 19:23 |
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fta | and 12 infrequently used | 19:23 |
fta | mdeslaur, do you know if someone is actively working on fixing libindicate? | 19:39 |
mdeslaur | fta: I don't know, sorry | 19:39 |
fta | ok, n-p | 19:39 |
mdeslaur | fta: you should ask the last uploader | 19:42 |
fta | mdeslaur, well, i initially had my doubts about rb being fixed as it's no longer a target for natty, but libindicate sure is, so i'll wait ;) | 19:44 |
mdeslaur | fta: oh, I'm a rhythmbox user, so I'll definitely take a look at it :P | 19:45 |
fta | mdeslaur, me too, and i have no plan to move to banshee | 19:45 |
BUGabundo | o/ | 21:16 |
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