[00:21] <Bizzeh> hey, im considering setting up a ubuntu server that all traffic within my business routes through. what would be the best way to disable certain sites for certain ip ranges, or computer names?
[00:23] <qman__> AtomicDryad, you need to make a few changes in upstart to get console messages
[00:24] <qman__> unfortunately there's no simple switch, you have to modify the plymouth scripts
[00:25] <AtomicDryad> Hm, in hardy desktop I had to mangle plymouth files in initramfs-tools or such
[00:25] <AtomicDryad> yeah
[00:25] <qman__> in hardy it's easy
[00:25] <qman__> just remove quiet splash from the boot line
[00:25] <qman__> but from karmic on, that doesn't work
[00:25] <AtomicDryad> It's a pita, I was hoping someone created a .deb fix
[00:25] <AtomicDryad> I meant lucid
[00:26] <AtomicDryad> the 10.4 LTS one
[00:26] <qman__> you need to modify /etc/init/plymouth.conf and /etc/init/plymouth-splash.conf
[00:26] <qman__> in both, you need to comment this line
[00:26] <qman__> exec /bin/plymouth show-splash
[00:26] <AtomicDryad> Really, if the stupid thing would tail -f boot.log it would be fine (not counting the issues with things getting there in the first place )
[00:26] <AtomicDryad> Yeah
[00:27] <AtomicDryad> took out attach-to-console
[00:27] <AtomicDryad> or whatnot. it's been awhile
[00:28] <AtomicDryad> Are they planning to return to sanity in 11.x...or 12 or 13.. ?
[00:28] <qman__> unfortunately, not that I'm aware
[00:29] <AtomicDryad> They're turning their distro into a joke as far as using it for Serious Business on the Internet(tm)
[00:29] <AtomicDryad> =[
[00:39] <Richk> hi
[00:40] <Richk> Is it possible to run ASP.NET website on ubuntu-server?
[00:45] <Richk> are there anyone can answer to my question?
[00:50] <Datz> Richk: it is pretty slow here sometimes
[00:51] <Datz> Richk: http://forum.siteground.com/showthread.php?7007-Is-it-possible-to-run-ASP-under-LINUX
[00:53] <Datz> look at the last post
[00:54] <Richk> Datz: looking...
[01:00] <Richk> Datz: I could not find relevant info, but thanks. I know you can write and run ASP.NET code as a developer, but is it possible to run a website created in asp.net and c# on ubuntu server?
[01:00] <Richk> it is possible on suse linux
[01:00] <Richk> but too expensive
[01:02] <Richk> so my question is can I do the same as this:  http://www.novell.com/products/mono/ on ubuntu server?
[01:02] <Datz> If you can run it on linux, you can run it on ubuntu server if my logic is working
[01:05] <Richk> Datz: Unfortunately it will work only on Suse Enterprise
[01:10] <Datz> Richk: might do some research. It looks like it is possible
[01:10] <Richk> Datz: thanks
[03:50] <axisys> can someone tell me specs of this card? http://pastebin.com/gXmQapen
[03:50] <axisys> (learning)
[03:51] <axisys> sorry I hit /quit by mistake..
[03:52] <axisys> still like to find out the spec of this card http://pastebin.com/gXmQapen
[04:01] <twb> axisys: define "spec"
[04:02] <axisys> twb: bus speed/ io speed/ cache size
[04:03] <twb> axisys: ask the vendor
[04:04] <axisys> twb: ok.. so lspci did not have that info
[04:04] <axisys> ?
[04:04] <twb> axisys: call Adaptec and ask them.
[04:05] <qman__> lspci only gets the information the device reports to it
[04:06] <qman__> the information you seek is not reported by the hardware
[04:06] <qman__> find the manual or call adaptec
[04:09] <axisys> twb, qman__ : ok
[04:09] <axisys> so any info in lspci can tell me what card I should search for in adaptec site?
[04:10] <qman__> unlikely
[04:11] <qman__> at least not with a simple search
[04:11] <qman__> lspci gives information about the chipset, while vendors use product model numbers
[04:12] <qman__> unless someone has already made that relation online you're going to have trouble finding out what model it is that way
[04:13] <twb> axisys: all you have is "Adaptec AAC-RAID (rev 09)"
[04:13] <axisys> this is the card
[04:13] <axisys> http://www.sun.com/storage/storage_networking/hba/raid/raid_internal.pdf
[04:58] <AtomicDryad> ...unsurprisingly, upgrading to 10.x in a virt broke something. And the moronic splash boot crap clears away helpful messages that are apparently too confusing or something ><
[05:19] <twb> AtomicDryad: tell me about it :-/
[05:19] <twb> AtomicDryad: what virtualization technology?
[05:19] <AtomicDryad> They intentionally put in a clear screen command. WTF
[05:20] <AtomicDryad> And not only that, but plymouth fails to log boot msgs even after fixing the original issue
[05:20] <AtomicDryad> colinux
[05:20] <AtomicDryad> Apparently openvz and xen etc have issues too
[05:20] <twb> Yeesh, I've never even heard of that one
[05:21] <AtomicDryad> It's like usermode but on windows
[05:21] <twb> Oh, it's some windows thing
[05:21] <AtomicDryad> Yeah, faster than cygwin and less of a pig than vbox/vmware/qemu
[05:22] <AtomicDryad> It's been a long time since 10.4 came out...and noone has come up with a demoronizer for it?
[05:22] <twb> Most of my stuff runs headless
[05:22] <AtomicDryad> Yeah, this usually does
[05:22] <twb> I assume you've already removed "quiet splash" from the bootloader in your domU -- assuming your domU even steps throught a bootloader?
[05:23] <AtomicDryad> Bootloader? Screw that shit, on 10.x it's probably just as fracked as init has become
[05:24] <twb> So: you are not running a bootloader?
[05:24] <AtomicDryad> But yeah it's an executable kernel, so no bootloader is needed
[05:24] <twb> You're directly the kernel and ramdisk to colinux to boot?
[05:24] <AtomicDryad> The kernel+modules are not provided by ubuntu
[05:24] <twb> So colinux is directly invoking /sbin/init ?
[05:25] <AtomicDryad> There's a small initrd
[05:25] <twb> If you aren't running stock Ubuntu kernel and initrd, there isn't much I can do about them
[05:25] <twb> The splash code lives, at least in part, in the stock ramdisk.  I don't know what will happen if you remove that part
[05:25] <AtomicDryad> Eh, the point of failure was past that
[05:26] <AtomicDryad> Orly? Hm. Odd.
[05:26] <twb> Yeah, IIRC it even copies libgtk2 in there :-/
[05:26] <AtomicDryad> ..........
[05:26] <AtomicDryad> You're not serious
[05:27] <twb> I am
[05:27] <AtomicDryad> wtf
[05:27] <AtomicDryad> Okay. It's offensive enough on a desktop distro for grandma
[05:27] <AtomicDryad> But...if they're stuffing megabytes of useless crap into initrd...
[05:27] <AtomicDryad> On a server distro..
[05:28] <AtomicDryad> oy
[05:28] <twb> ssh omega zcat /initrd.img | cpio -t | grep gtk
[05:28] <twb> I can't see it... might only happen when the fancy-pants plymouth theme is installed
[05:29] <AtomicDryad> [root@vm]/boot# zcat initrd.img-2.6.32-26-generic |cpio -t|grep -i gtk
[05:29] <AtomicDryad> 36441 blocks
[05:29] <AtomicDryad> yeh
[05:30] <twb> Nope, I can't see it even in a fully desktop 10.04, so  Idunno
[05:30] <twb> Guess I was just misreading /usr/share/initramfs-tools/**plymouth
[05:30] <AtomicDryad> busybox+klibc on the default one
[05:30] <twb> Oops, I was looking at an 8.04 desktop
[05:31] <AtomicDryad> :-O
[05:32] <AtomicDryad> Has anyone even made a guisplash that shows scrolling messages? I know fedora had it. Or something.
[05:32] <twb> You can hit ESC and it'll echo the entire dmesg output to the screen, IRIC
[05:32] <AtomicDryad> They should use that space for a mini rescue distro
[05:33] <AtomicDryad> with networking/sshd. >.>
[05:33] <twb> AtomicDryad: you have networking in an Ubuntu ramdisk.
[05:33] <twb> Actually, I tell a lie -- ubuntu's busybox is cut-down compared to debian's...
[05:33] <twb> Debian's busybox even has an httpd
[05:33] <AtomicDryad> ....and a getty spawning on failures...
[05:34] <AtomicDryad> So does the one on my phone :P
[05:34] <twb> Er, no.
[05:34] <twb> It has a *shell* that spawns on failure (or when booting with "break").
[05:34] <AtomicDryad> What, ubuntu?
[05:35] <twb> Both ubuntu and debian do.
[05:35] <AtomicDryad> Huh. I didn't get a shell. Just clearscreen+hi I'm plymouth, BLEEEAARGHH (segv)
[05:35] <twb> AtomicDryad: you already admitted you were using a non-standard ramdisk
[05:36] <twb> You may have to chvt to tty1, or wherever you've placed /dev/console.  IIRC there's a known bug in 10.04 where plymouth doesn't do that automatically when appropriate
[05:36] <AtomicDryad> Yeah, but getty/shell on failure needn't be just in initrd
[05:36] <AtomicDryad> :P
[05:37] <twb> AtomicDryad: there's also one that's post-initrd, but that's done by upstart, and I don't trust it.
[05:37] <AtomicDryad> Considering it's a virt that wouldn't be an option.
[05:38] <twb> In /etc/init/mountall-shell.conf, and a few other places
[05:38] <AtomicDryad> Upstart is hella(tm) fast. Impressive but so far the entirety of the new boot/init/eyecandy process seems rather untrustworthy, yeah
[05:39] <AtomicDryad> (I've also tried it on a real system. No failure, but offensive nonetheless)
[05:41] <AtomicDryad> Hm, what's /bin/sh supposed to be on 10.4? bash or dash?
[05:41] <twb> IMO it is not significantly faster than startparized Squeeze
[05:42] <twb> In all active versions of Ubuntu it should be dash, IIRC
[05:42] <twb> certainly in 10.04 it should be dash
[05:43] <AtomicDryad> kk, just making sure
[05:43] <AtomicDryad> sh.distrib was pointing to bash
[05:44] <twb> dash probably dpkg-divert's it
[05:44] <twb> hysterical raisins
[05:44] <twb> IMO bash should depend on dash, not the other way around
[05:48] <AtomicDryad> It is that way
[05:51] <twb> You're right.
[05:51] <twb> bash is still Essential: yes, though
[05:51] <twb> That means packages are allowed to implicitly Pre-Depends on it.
[05:52] <AtomicDryad> consolekit looks utterly useless, but let me guess...removal = armageddon?
[05:53] <AtomicDryad> Well, there's some things that may need bash's functionality
[05:53] <AtomicDryad> like cygwin apt
[05:54] <AtomicDryad> >.>
[05:55] <AtomicDryad> Dunno of anything on an actual linux system though
[05:57] <twb> AtomicDryad: did you install ubuntu-minimal, or a full desktop?
[05:57] <twb> Because if you want a desktop, this is the wrong channel.  And if you don't, consolekit shouldn't have been installed...
[05:59] <AtomicDryad> I upgraded from a server 9.04 ext3 img :P
[05:59] <twb> consolekit is only pulled in by GUI stuff, so obviously you screwed up somewhere
[06:00] <AtomicDryad> ...FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[06:01] <twb> It certainly isn't installed on my 10.04 systems created by installing from a 10.04 debian-installer ramdisk
[06:01] <AtomicDryad> Yeah. forgot to '-m server'  9.10->10.4
[06:01] <AtomicDryad> That should be default though...?
[06:09] <twb> I don't know, man. dru is for schmucks
[06:13] <AtomicDryad> dru?
[06:18] <twb> do-release-upgrade
[06:22] <AtomicDryad> Eh, it worked for the most part. Not that familiar with ubuntu, but it's repos are a great temptation
[06:26] <ScottK> twb: It's the upgrade method that we test the most and is the most supported.  Please don't tell new people not to use it.
[06:26] <twb> Sorry.
[06:27] <twb> I was bitching because I've never once seen it work
[06:27] <ScottK> OK.  I've never once seen it fail.
[06:28] <ScottK> Updating sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade should also work, but they put special case code to work around problems in d-r-u so it's best for most people to use it.
[06:39] <AtomicDryad> No issues here, save for one caused by the way I'm running things, and the installation of halfassery
[06:42] <AtomicDryad> Is anyone aware of a fuse/unionfs-ish overlay that provides symlinks on filesystems that don't support it?
[06:42] <AtomicDryad> Like umsdos did for fat
[06:45] <twb> AtomicDryad: you could just write one
[06:45] <AtomicDryad> Yeah I've been considering that
[06:45] <twb> Such a fuse filesystem is pretty trivial -- have a look at rofs, for example
[06:46] <twb> The HFS+ drivers do such a thing internally for *hard* links
[06:46] <AtomicDryad> Could probably even translate win32 *.lnk files
[06:46] <twb> AtomicDryad: note that NTFS supports symlinks natively, so .lnk files are really legacy.
[06:48] <AtomicDryad> I don't think cofs (mounts a path from hostos) provides any clue in regards to those
[06:49] <twb> Humph, colinux doesn't simply translate syscalls?
[06:49] <twb> That's essentially what OpenVZ/LXC do
[06:50] <AtomicDryad> junctions aren't symlinks afaik
[06:50] <AtomicDryad> they're symlink-ish? Not sure.
[06:50] <twb> I don't pretend to understand; I don't really deal with Windows.
[06:51] <twb> Presumably the POSIX.1 against which NT4 was certified predated symlinks in POSIX.1
[06:54] <AtomicDryad> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_reparse_point
[07:01] <twb> I wonder how cross-volume hard links work... presumably reference-counting is not feasible...
[08:59] <eagles0513875|2> hey everyone
[09:16] <twb> Please explain how I'm supposed to non-interactively reconfigure ldap-auth-client's debconf entries: http://paste.debian.net/102809/
[09:18]  * twb grovels through the flipping postinst by hand :-/
[09:26] <twb> GRRR
[09:26] <twb> If I cheat and just invoke "/var/lib/dpkg/info/ldap-auth-config.postinst configure" directly, it works
[10:06] <rigved> hi everyone
[10:07] <rigved> i get this error when i start my ubuntu server in virtualbox - SMBus address uninitialised: Upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr
[10:07] <rigved> is there some thing wrong here?
[10:11] <rigved> can anyone help me with my problem? ^^
[10:20] <N2Deep> rigved: I think you can ignore that, unless it stops your virtual machine from booting.
[10:20] <N2Deep> I have seen it before, did not affect me.
[10:22] <rigved> N2Deep: i think that only the first time i booted that i couldn't continue. otherwise every other time it booted fine. i was asking because it shows up every time. thanx for your help
[11:13] <serard> hello
[11:13] <serard> does someone can help me with bugzilla and charset encoding ?
[12:31] <pmatulis> !ask | serard
[12:41] <serard> :)
[12:46] <altergol> Hi, I'm trying to create a virtual machine on a newly installed (lucid) host but I get the following error: "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /tmp/tmpqXQAmV mount -t proc proc /proc" ... the full vm creation command is here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/KEYW772M
[12:47] <altergol> Googling the error seems to indicate something is wrong in debootstrap but this is as far as I can go to debug the problem
[12:48] <altergol> Any help with this?
[13:06] <LoganPhyve> good morning, all
[13:08] <LoganPhyve> looking for some help: Have Zimbra Mail running on Ubuntu server 8.04.4 LTS, in a VMware 3.5 ESX box. Using VMware standalone coverter to try and migrate it to a much more powerful machine. Every time I try, the transfer completes but I have no network connection. ifconfig only shows the loopback connection. any idea how to add te VM virtual network adapter back to the OS?
[13:12] <remix_tj> LoganPhyve: very easy
[13:12] <remix_tj> if you do ifconfig -a
[13:13] <LoganPhyve> it does show the adapter doing that
[13:13] <remix_tj> you can see the new interface
[13:14] <LoganPhyve> i can see it ( I have it disconnected in ESXi since the old machine in the ESX box is still running) so it's not connected to my network at the moment...
[13:15] <LoganPhyve> so what would I do (after enabling the connection in ESXi) to get it to connect to the network?
[13:16] <LoganPhyve> i think i answered my own q, it shows as eth0 and /etc/netwok/interfaces shows eth0...
[13:16] <remix_tj> LoganPhyve: take a look to /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[13:16] <remix_tj> there is a row with the old mac address
[13:16] <remix_tj> and another with the new mac
[13:16] <remix_tj> remove both
[13:16] <LoganPhyve> alright
[13:17] <remix_tj> at the boot the eth0 will be configured to the correct adapter
[13:17] <LoganPhyve> sounds great, thank you very much remix_tj
[13:18] <LoganPhyve> unfortulatly I'll have to wait until next weekend or midnight this week to try it, since I can't take our mail server offline at the moment
[13:18] <LoganPhyve> but thanks again for the tut
[13:19] <remix_tj> LoganPhyve: i migrated about 30 linux box from an ESX server to another, i'm so skilled about it :-D
[13:19] <LoganPhyve> heh, I guess so!
[13:20] <LoganPhyve> i'm replacing a lot of the older stuff, but this is one machine i'm not messing with at the moment
[13:20] <LoganPhyve> the last guy that worked here had no clue what he was doing and set things up extremely poorly
[13:21] <LoganPhyve> he's got our mail server running on an ancient dual-chip server, but it has 1 vCPU, 2gb of ram, and 250gbs of flat disk
[13:22] <LoganPhyve> I'm moving it over to a 4 vCPU setup, 3gb of ram (all I have at my current disposal) and 1 Tb of Raid5 storage
[13:22] <LoganPhyve> a much needed performance boost.
[13:32] <altergol> Anyone to give me advice on my problem with vmbuilder ? (see complete command line here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/KEYW772M) I get the following error: "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /tmp/tmpqXQAmV mount -t proc proc /proc"  ... ?
[13:33] <pmatulis> altergol: how is your disk space?
[13:33] <altergol> disk space is fine: 1,3 free on the host
[13:33] <altergol> the host is a newly installed lucid
[13:34] <pmatulis> altergol: have you used this exact creation method in the past?
[13:34] <altergol> yes, on my desktop machine it works fine
[13:34] <altergol> but not on this server
[13:34] <hallyn> altergol: nothing else in the logs?  No -EPERM or -EACCESS or -EINVAL or anything?
[13:35] <altergol> I also tried to update vmbuild using the daily build ppa because I've seen that the version in lucid is outdated ... no luck
[13:35] <altergol> nothing in the logs, I just checked ...
[13:36] <hallyn> /var/log/apparmor/*.log?
[13:36] <hallyn> well, shouldn't be
[13:36] <hallyn> altergol: so what happens if you try that command by hand?
[13:37] <altergol> same result if I try it by hand
[13:38] <hallyn> and 'strace !!' ?
[13:39] <altergol> strace !! -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/23h2U3Kk
[13:40] <pmatulis> altergol: using sudo?
[13:40] <altergol> no, this is launched after a "sudo su"
[13:44] <altergol> hallyn: /var/log/apparmor/ is empty
[13:46] <ttx> Daviey: ping
[13:47] <altergol> pmatulis: thanks a lot for your help ... I guess I'll have to resort to virt-install
[13:48] <Daviey> ttx, hey
[13:48] <Ferhat> hi, what's the latest ubuntu server version that supports mysql4?
[13:48] <jdstrand> altergol: fyi, apparmor denials are in dmseg and kern.log (/var/log/audit/audit.log if it is installed)
[13:48] <ttx> Daviey: about the task forces spec, was wondering if you needed more from me at this point
[13:48] <ttx> jdstrand: o/
[13:49] <Ferhat> I'm trying to get mysql 4 running on ubuntu server for some old software
[13:49] <Daviey> ttx, No, sorry - i plan to get things moving this week.
[13:49] <jdstrand> hi ttx! how are you?
[13:49] <ttx> Daviey: ok, no hurry :)
[13:49] <hallyn> altergol: uh, please try 'strace -f chroot /tmp/tmpqXQAmV mount -t proc proc /proc
[13:49] <Daviey> ttx, Although - with xmas on our back, it might not get much traction until next year. :/
[13:49] <ttx> jdstrand: Very well, thank you. Stil busy learning new projects and codebases
[13:50] <ttx> Daviey: np, was just making sure I didn't miss a request from you to unblock you
[13:50] <Daviey> jdstrand, I think what he mean't to say - "I'm living the dream".
[13:50] <Daviey> ttx, invent the 25th hour in a day? :)
[13:50] <hallyn> jdstrand: oh, thanks.  how come theyr'e not copied into /var/log/apparmor/err?
[13:51] <altergol> hallyn: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/aCELv2Ke
[13:51] <jdstrand> Daviey: I thought we were living the dream?
[13:51] <hallyn> altergol: thanks.  and what does /proc/self/status show?
[13:52] <hallyn> altergol: permission is denied, so question is why
[13:52] <jdstrand> hallyn: I'm not sure what /var/log/apparmor is-- possibly something for yast
[13:52] <hallyn> jdstrand: eep! :)
[13:52] <jdstrand> hallyn: the messages come through the kernel's audit facility. we could rsyslog it over I suppose...
[13:52] <Daviey> jdstrand, Your dream must be better than mine :P
[13:52]  * jdstrand likes his dream
[13:53] <hallyn> jdstrand: i'm missing austin, lemme tell you.  Showed up in chicago to find heater is broken with 10 degree lows :)
[13:53] <altergol> hallyn: am I supposed to "run" /proc/self/status ?
[13:53] <hallyn> altergol: cat /proc/self/status
[13:53] <jdstrand> hallyn: yikes!
[13:53] <hallyn> altergol: and maybe 'quota' for good measure
[13:53] <jdstrand> hallyn: I sure don't miss western NY myself :)
[13:54] <hallyn> we should get some more pretty snow tonight, at least
[13:54] <altergol> hallyn: cat /proc/selft/status => http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/NwKL7rWu
[13:54] <jdstrand> that sounds nice
[13:54] <jdstrand> we have some light rain here, atm
[13:54] <hallyn> that sounds nice :)
[13:54] <jdstrand> :)
[13:55] <altergol> hallyn: quota returns with no output (installed via apt-get install quota)
[13:56] <hallyn> altergol: can you please file a bug?  I'll try to reproduce on a stock 10.04.1 lucid machine
[13:56] <altergol> hallyn: sure, thanks for you help
[13:57] <hallyn> mp
[13:57] <pmatulis> altergol: what else is this server doing besides acting as kvm host?
[13:57] <pmatulis> altergol: other customizations?  services?
[13:57] <altergol> pmatulis: absolutely nothing yet, the server is brand new
[14:47] <highvoltage> anyone here who doesn't use htop?
[14:55] <hallyn> highvoltage: uh, wha?  i rarely do...  fwiw
[14:58] <hggdh> Daviey: you took vector offline on Hudson?
[14:58] <hggdh> and good morning :-)
[14:58] <Daviey> hggdh, no, seems i need to manually reload it daily :/
[14:59] <Daviey> hggdh, god afternoon btw :)
[14:59] <Daviey> good*
[15:04] <hggdh> Daviey: thanks
[15:05] <marcriera> hi, does anyone know how to launch startup scripts on ubuntu like GPO scripts are launched on windows?
[15:05] <Daviey> hggdh, I had to hack the timeout to be 3 hours, as all tests were failing
[15:06] <hggdh> Daviey: I wonder if we should set the timeout per machine, as opposed to a generic
[15:06] <Daviey> hggdh, Might make sense, but seems they are all failing anyway
[15:07] <hggdh> Daviey: even more, it is a collection of quite different hardware (mine, for example, is a iCore7, yours is a i386, etc), with different clock speeds
[15:07] <Daviey> ah yes
[15:48] <crazed> hm, does 10.04.1 server edition not load virtio drivers for blk/net?
[15:49] <crazed> i can only seem to get virtio_balloon
[16:39] <i0nic> how can I make csf firewall run at start, is the best way to do this with runlevels? /etc/rc files?
[16:42] <c0nv1ct> i0nic, that is the proper way to run services, yes
[16:49] <i0nic> anyone using csf firewall?
[16:49] <LowValueTarget> whats the best method to log each command someone runs while logged in via ssh
[16:49] <LowValueTarget> something i can send off to another box via a remote logging facility
[16:51] <c0nv1ct> LowValueTarget, http://www.techsutram.com/2009/12/bash-shell-logging-technique.html
[16:51] <c0nv1ct> LowValueTarget, that work?
[16:55] <eagles0513875> hey RoyK you around bud?
[16:57] <raubvogel> Does anyone know why the ubuntu packages have dovecot 1.X while 2.X has been out?
[16:57] <eagles0513875> raubvogel: give me a sec to ssh into my server
[16:57] <eagles0513875> 2.x i think raubvogel
[16:58] <eagles0513875> raubvogel: you on lucid
[16:58] <eagles0513875> lucid has 1.2.9
[16:59] <raubvogel> Would you know its package name,  eagles0513875? What I saw was 1.2.9 (http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/dovecot-common) all the way to 1.2.15 (http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/dovecot-common)
[16:59] <raubvogel> And, yes i am using lucid since this is a server
[17:00] <pmatulis> raubvogel: um, v2.0.8 was release Dec 3.  what do you expect?
[17:00] <hggdh> raubvogel: debian has 1.2.15 (as Natty). We will most certainly sync/merge when it is available from Debian
[17:01] <raubvogel> Ok, I can take that; it is the same that, say, gentoo offers.
[17:01] <pmatulis> yes, the 2 series first appeared in August
[17:02] <hggdh> raubvogel: you can also use rmadison to find what versions are available for a package on Ubuntu and/or Debian
[17:09] <eagles0513875> raubvogel: on ubuntu its split into dovecot-imapd or dovecot-pop3d
[17:10] <eagles0513875> depeds what you want to use imap or pop 3
[17:10] <eagles0513875> i pulled the dovecot-imapd and set it up with postfix
[17:10] <eagles0513875> hggdh: can do apt-cache search dovecot-imapd as well or pop3d
[17:10] <eagles0513875> and that will work
[17:11] <raubvogel> Makes sense. I too installed dovecot-imapd since I have no desire to use pop3
[17:11] <raubvogel> Right now just converting some old configs to new
[17:12] <eagles0513875> raubvogel: then in the dovecot config you can have it use only imap and imaps  or just imaps
[17:12] <eagles0513875> !dovecot
[17:12] <eagles0513875> !mailserver
[17:14] <eagles0513875> raubvogel: if you need to reference the wiki google search dovecot ubuntu wiki
[17:17] <eagles0513875> raubvogel: have you worked with dovecot-antispam package?
[17:18] <jordandev> hello everyBody
[17:19] <SpamapS> hello jordandev
[17:19] <jordandev> any expert for PXE deplyment of Ubuntu in  cluster?
[17:20] <jordandev> hello SpamapS :-), thanks
[17:21] <SpamapS> jordandev: kirkland is particularly well versed in that, but I believe he's on vacation so may not be very responsive.
[17:21] <SpamapS> jordandev: still, why don't you just ask your question, maybe we can help?
[17:21] <jordandev> i tried this
[17:21] <jordandev> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomatedNodeDeployment
[17:22] <jordandev> on the node boot he can get the IP@
[17:22] <jordandev> so the DHCP is OK
[17:23] <jordandev> but he faild on trying to load the pxelinux.cfg/default
[17:23] <jordandev> simple question
[17:23] <jordandev> any idea about the best/clear tutorial/HowTo ?
[17:23] <jordandev> :-)
[17:25] <altergol> hallyn: I found the solution to my problem, not related to vmbuilder ... the problem was that grsecurity patches were preventing vmbuilder from mounting /proc ... with a kernel on the host without grsecurity all is fine
[17:26] <hallyn> altergol: i see
[17:29] <SpamapS> jordandev: can you be more specific when you say that it failed on trying to load pxelinux.cfg/default ?
[17:30] <jordandev> TFTP prefix: Trying to load : pxelinux.cfg/defalut
[17:31] <jordandev> Boot Failed: press a key to retray
[17:31] <jordandev> ...
[17:31] <JordiGH> I need to backport a newer zabbix to hardy. What would you recommend? I tried using the hardy source package with uscan (package didn't build), I tried looking in hardy-backports (newer version isn't there), I'm considering attempting using Debian's lenny-backports.
[17:34] <jordandev> @SpamapS: thats the problem, i dont have more message
[17:34] <jordandev> thats all what i get
[17:34] <jordandev> :(
[17:37] <jordandev> is this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomatedNodeDeployment the best HowTo ?
[17:37] <JordiGH> Okay, I guess this might help me: https://launchpad.net/~mario-sitz/+ppa-packages
[17:38] <SpamapS> jordandev: it looks ok, though that makeHeadNode script is pretty giant to be pasted.
[17:39] <jordandev> :)
[17:40] <JordiGH> Hm, wtf. He says he uploaded it to hardy backports, but apt-cache policy disagrees that such a version of zabbix exists. I wonder if I'm misusing backports?
[17:41] <SpamapS> JordiGH: was it new to backports? Might have to clear an archive admin.
[17:44] <JordiGH> SpamapS: Yeah, it's not here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/net/
[17:44] <JordiGH> But it is here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/zabbix-agent
[17:45] <JordiGH> So you suggest I nudge an admin?
[17:47] <LowValueTarget> c0nv1ct: that url es no work
[17:47] <LowValueTarget> cached copy worked though
[17:47] <LowValueTarget> thanks
[17:47] <c0nv1ct> weird, works for me
[17:48] <LowValueTarget> c0nv1ct: http://bit.ly/hiDnaP
[17:51] <SpamapS> JordiGH: dunno.. it may just take a while to hit the archives. I'm not entirely sure of how backports works
[17:55] <JordiGH> Hm, I guess I can use his ppa directly.
[17:56] <jordandev> any feedback regarding that http://fai-project.org/ ?
[17:57] <SpamapS> jordandev: we just recently evaluated it, and it is somewhat complicated
[17:57] <SpamapS> jordandev: we're working on getting cobbler to deploy ubuntu in natty actually
[17:57] <jordandev> cool
[17:58] <jordandev> and where are you on that now?
[17:58] <jordandev> success?
[17:58] <SpamapS> jordandev: not quite there yet, but getting close :)
[17:58] <jordandev> perfect
[17:58] <jordandev> any link so i be notified if you have any news? ;-)
[17:59] <SpamapS> jordandev: by the end of natty alpha 2 we expect to have it deploying ubuntu and fedora from ubuntu and from fedora
[17:59] <SpamapS> jordandev: we'll send an email to the ubuntu-server mailing list for sure
[17:59] <jordandev> perfect
[17:59] <SpamapS> jordandev: should go into universe soon.. when that happens, we'll be calling on people to test and report bugs
[18:00] <JordiGH> Excellent, habemus Zabbix.
[18:00] <JordiGH> And I got the package source if I need to compile it differently.
[18:00] <JordiGH> \o/
[18:02] <jordandev> @SpamapS: i git it a try (Cobbler)http://terrarum.net/administration/cobbler.html  http://terrarum.net/administration/deploying-ubuntu-with-cobbler.html
[18:02] <jordandev> but unfortunately without succees
[18:02] <JordiGH> Oh, hahah, Zabbix links with OpenSSL, GPL violation, lololol.
[18:06] <JordiGH> Oh, great, the zabbix packaging is broken. :-/
[18:07] <JordiGH> For hardy at any rate, doesn't package some javascript libraries.
[18:07] <jordandev> SpamapS: small question: can you deploy Ubuntu using Cobbler (Cobbler installer on CentOS or Fedora)?
[18:07] <jordandev> (Cobbler installed from CentOS or Fedora)?
[18:07] <SpamapS> jordandev: I believe it works for some, but we haven't been able to make it.
[18:08] <jordandev> :((
[18:08] <jordandev> in this link he sais he was able to do it http://terrarum.net/administration/deploying-ubuntu-with-cobbler.html
[18:09] <SpamapS> jordandev: yeah, its just not ready yet. Soon. :)
[18:09] <jordandev> i see
[18:15] <Daviey> JordiGH, I'm using zabbix on lucid and it works for me.
[18:16] <JordiGH> Daviey: Yeah, I'm on Hardy.
[18:16] <jordandev> thank you SpamapS
[18:16] <jordandev> so your advice is to wait Cobbler to be compatible with ubuntu
[18:16] <JordiGH> Daviey: It's just an old package. I decided to try someone's ppa backport, and the backport is broken. Very mildly, though, just missing prototype and scriptaculous.
[18:16] <JordiGH> I bet I can get away with just grabbing those two debs.
[18:17]  * JordiGH can't imagine how javascript libraries could have complicated binary dependencies.
[18:17] <Daviey> JordiGH, okay
[18:17] <jordandev> SpamapS: is it?
[18:18] <Daviey> jordandev, RE, PXE - what tftp server are you using?
[18:18] <SpamapS> jordandev: well, no, the howto you originally followed should work fine.
[18:19] <jordandev> SpamapS: tftpd-hpa
[18:19] <SpamapS> jordandev: Daviey asked. ;)
[18:20] <jordandev> ah i see :-)
[18:20] <Daviey> jordandev, Have you tried using tftp from tftp-hpa to do a get?
[18:20] <jordandev> i will give it a try
[18:21] <Daviey> jordandev, ie, $ tftp $IP_ADDRESS -c get pxelinux.0
[18:21] <Daviey> (IIRC it does overwrite local files without warning!)
[18:22] <SpamapS> wom 20
[18:22] <SpamapS> dooh
[18:37] <jordandev> Daviey: nothing work now :(
[18:37] <jordandev> i used that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomatedNodeDeployment
[18:38] <jordandev> so after removing tftpd-hpa
[18:39] <jordandev> and installing tftp
[18:39] <jordandev> it doesnt work
[18:39] <jordandev> thats it
[18:49] <cjwatson> hggdh,Daviey,et-al: dpkg 1.15.8.7ubuntu1 uploaded, should hopefully be faster for you guys
[18:49] <hggdh> cjwatson: fantastic, thank you!
[19:09] <Daviey> cjwatson, \o/
[19:09] <Daviey> cjwatson, I'll consider that an xmas present :)
[19:34] <bluethundr> for some reason even tho pssh is installed it refuses to function
[19:34] <bluethundr> http://pastebin.ca/2024735
[19:34] <bluethundr> anyone have any insight into how to solve this issue?
[19:35] <pmatulis> bluethundr: i guess the pssh command is not in the PATH (of the root user)
[19:36] <pmatulis> bluethundr: do 'which pssh; echo $PATH'
[19:37] <RoyK> wtf is pssh?
[19:37] <bluethundr> parallel ssh
[19:37] <pmatulis> !info pssh
[19:38] <bluethundr> a way to issue commands to a group of machines at one time via ssh
[19:38] <RoyK> ah
[19:38] <bluethundr> which don't know diddly about pssh
[19:39] <bluethundr> and locate does not show anything outside my user directory tho my system claimed it was successfully installed via aptitude
[19:39] <i0nic> everytime I try to generate a gpg key on my server it says it needs more data
[19:39] <pmatulis> bluethundr: ah sorry, i think which bases itself on the PATH
[19:39] <i0nic> what can I do in the background to get enough data going?
[19:40] <bluethundr> that's ok :)
[19:40] <pmatulis> bluethundr: so just use sudo instead
[19:41] <bluethundr> sudo is hosed at the moment, I'll get around to fixing that later (it's an ldap thing)
[19:41] <bluethundr> at the moment I'm su'd into root
[19:41] <pmatulis> bluethundr: so do '/usr/bin/pssh'
[19:49] <bluethundr> pmatulis, it was actually named /usr/bin/parallel-ssh
[19:49] <bluethundr> which is a bit wordy for my tastes
[19:49] <bluethundr> so I just ln -s to /usr/bin/pssh and it seems ok now
[19:49] <bluethundr> thanks for your help
[19:49] <pmatulis> bluethundr: ok, keep on truckin'
[19:49] <bluethundr> pmatulis, right on, you too
[20:16] <Ralchev> Guys, do you have any idea how to disable ipv6?
[20:16] <pmatulis> Ralchev: some sysctl option
[20:17] <SpamapS> Ralchev: is there something broken about having it on?
[20:18] <Ralchev> SpamapS, it seems that I cant connect to my db while trying to execute a .sh file, someone said it may be because of ipv6
[20:19] <Ralchev> its like http://paste.ubuntu.com/546067/
[20:21] <SpamapS> Ralchev: ah, I don't see how that suggests ipv6 is at fault.. but I'll take your word for it. :-P
[20:22] <Ralchev> SpamapS, dunno rly
[21:32] <axisys> what is the correct syntax to add this into fstab?
[21:32] <axisys> /dev/md10 on /opt/splunk type ext4 (rw)
[21:41] <axisys> do I need to use UUID instead of /dev/md10 ? how do I get that ?
[21:42] <remix_tj> axisys: blkid /dev/md10
[21:42] <axisys> /dev/md10: UUID="9b3de848-b6e7-4c6b-9659-89875da35403" TYPE="ext4"
[21:43] <axisys> cool!
[21:43] <axisys> so I use blkid instead ?
[21:43] <axisys> remix_tj: ^
[21:43] <remix_tj> yes
[21:43] <remix_tj> the UUID is better
[21:44] <axisys> this entry looks kosher in fstab ?
[21:44] <axisys> UUID="9b3de848-b6e7-4c6b-9659-89875da35403"     /opt/splunk     ext4    defaults        0       0
[21:45] <remix_tj> axisys: maybe :-)
[21:45] <axisys> remix_tj: thanks
[22:17] <LowValueTarget> So say user1 SSHs into server1 then SSHs into server2 from server1. Is it possible to record commands to server1 that user1 executes int the server1 => server2 SSH session?
[22:20] <remix_tj> LowValueTarget: no, the commands sent to server2 from server1 are registered only con server2
[22:21] <LowValueTarget> remix_tj: ok, what about using server1 as an SSH proxy of sorts then and having user 1 connect from serverA to server2 /through/ server1
[22:21] <LowValueTarget> im jsut trying to create some sort of audit trail without having some program or agent installed on every target computer
[22:22] <remix_tj> uhm, i think you should use ssh a proxy but i don't know how