[00:00] okay [00:00] Lubuntu requires only 60. that's lightweight [00:00] Then perhaps you prefer lubuntu? [00:00] We are in a competition to be lighter than it is [00:00] no [00:01] sorry, worded that wrong [00:01] I do, but I like XFCE better. I want to understand how I can make it less resource intensive [00:01] We are _NOT_ in a competition to be lighter than it is [00:01] compare it to Lubuntu, and remove all the things Lubuntu doesn't have? [00:01] I disabled all the gnome services in start up, but I'd like to know how to disable services that start before X. how do I do that? [00:01] Did you install Xubuntu from cd? [00:01] yes [00:02] Xubuntu requires those services, normally [00:03] for example, I disabled gnome-keyring. will something break? [00:03] yes, [00:03] you will be asked for passwords more often when doing things [00:04] gnome-keyring stores ssl and gpg passwords [00:04] I don't mind that. [00:04] I always set sudo timestamp to 0 [00:05] but, after disabling all those gnome services and restarting my X session, I only got something like 20Mb extra ram [00:06] I don't think you will get Xubuntu as light as Lubuntu. [00:06] But you can experiment with things like you are. [00:06] I installed Slackware before. I didn't like it so much because it's too complicated, but their XFCE only required 80Mb [00:06] I don't care about LXDE much [00:06] my primary pc is ubuntu. it has 2 gb ram [00:06] but I have an old pc that i wanted to relive [00:06] only 256mb ram [00:08] how can slackware require 120mb less than xubuntu? If they had apt-get, I'd stay there. How can I trim xubuntu? [00:08] gdm is something they don't have and I like gdm [00:08] what else? [00:09] I don't know. I don't run slackware and have not bothered with a file by file comparison [00:09] I don't want to run it either [00:10] but I don't like LXDE [00:10] do you think Debian is lighter? [00:10] I wouldn't know that either [00:11] ok. I understand that not many people still run such slow pcs nowadays. [00:11] so people don't design stuff for them [00:12] but would you know how one can disable cups, for example? I don't have a printer [00:13] nevermind. I'll install lubuntu. thanks for your help [01:50] im back [01:51] gr8m8! [01:55] still cant shutdown [01:55] xubuntu [01:55] lol [02:09] i remember i could shutdown once [02:09] but i had to kill a process [02:09] cant remember whic [02:09] h [02:09] HELP === Guest46627 is now known as Visigoth [05:50] I never store any files on the Desktop, so "Create folder", "Open terminal here" menu items are useless for me to have on the Desktop, instead I'd like "Applications" menu to open when I right-click on the Desktop.From using ArchLinux I can remember that there was a special package to install to address this issue. Is there such a package (or another solution) available for Xubuntu? [05:51] desktop settings → icons, and change the first dropdown menu [06:42] Sysi: how to do that?? [07:14] right click → desktop settings [07:30] * ubUXUbu canoes into the tranquil binary lowlands of...Xubuntu! [08:25] hi ubUXUbu [08:26] sup... [08:48] brot: hi [09:06] I am trying to make a secure key that is required to logon/decrypt, I have found pamusb however, this seems no longer in existent, does anyone know of an alternative? [09:09] scrap that I have found it on sourceforge, thank you anyway :) [10:30] I am looking for an application that will allow me to turn CD Audio into MP3, is there such an app in the repos? [10:31] several [10:31] plenty [10:31] rip / just transform? [11:17] thank you guys [11:18] one more, is there a way that I can dump the results of "ls" to a txt file? [11:19] MorphixNW, ls >file.txt [11:19] Knome: your awesome ever always, that worked thank you [11:19] yw [11:20] knome: your up early or late? :P [11:21] well it's 1pm, so pretty normal. but yes, i've woken up today, not stayed up all night [11:21] 1pm? where are you? [11:21] finland [11:21] thought you was behind not infront :) [11:21] utc+2 [11:21] :) [11:21] timezones ♥ [11:23] TZ's are okay, but DST breaks my heart [11:24] where does this command not work? scp media-centre@192.168.0.210:/nas2/movies 2/list.txt / [11:24] where = why* [11:25] you have three parameters, should have two [11:25] really? [11:25] well, cp $from $to ? [11:25] i get "file not found" [11:25] (s)cp [11:26] 2/list.txt is not valid [11:26] well, probably not [11:26] how can I tell it there is a space in the filder? [11:26] movies\ 2/list and propably not to root [11:26] ^ [11:27] knome: are we getting something fancy to natty? xfce 4.8 ♥ [11:27] though i like bluebird very much [11:28] ochosi is working on a less-blue variant of bluebird + some improvements to it [11:28] new xfce has different options for panel background [11:29] mm-hmm, so maybe fiddling with that as well then [11:29] theme decides / solid color / image [11:29] mmh [11:34] can I connect to another ubuntu machines hard drive via my network and tranfers files easily? [11:35] sshfs i maybe the handiest, if you have intranet [11:36] can I not just mount the drive like I do with a network share on my windows 2k3 server? [11:37] you need to have share to mount it [11:38] havin ssh-server is easy and has many options [11:38] hmmm, I cant seem to see how I share a folder, I tried right click but no sharing options that I can see [11:38] sshfs works basically like regular mounting [11:38] hmmm ok sounds like thats what I need then :) [11:38] install openssh-server and sshfs to client [11:40] Hello guys. I am trying to install Xubuntu using alternative installer via flash drive to my netbook. I just stuck at the point of mounting the point - it just doesn't accept anything I am trying to feed it with [11:40] *of mounting the CD, of course [11:41] sysi: ok all installed [11:42] i think alternate disks aren't ment to be used from usb, therefure not sure if there's fix [11:43] Why it just doesn't accept /cdrom if I've mounted the flash drive there or /dev/sdb1 (my flash) ? [11:43] Shouldn't it? [11:47] sysi: your a genius, that has worked flawlessly with some fiddling to find the correct command :) [11:47] thank you [11:49] (ever tried to use network share in win7? Nightmare) [11:49] gladly I havent used 7 very much :P [11:51] it' better than xp but still horrible [11:51] I liked XP [11:51] not as much as I like Ubuntu tho [11:51] albeit a pain to get stuff working sometimes, it runs so much better and cheaper ;) [11:52] but with that said, the basics are very simple and just work [11:52] if I wasnt so much a fiddler and simply used the internet it would be extremely simple and easy [12:40] is there a way that I can use a USB stick as a security token that is required at logon? (maybe incorrect terminology) [12:53] Having troubles with desktop xubuntu installation on netbook from flash drive. Bootable flash created under windows with usb-creator.exe found in the .iso image. Flash boots, says can not find linux, okay, I am passing there /casper/vmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz, it loads and then says there's no init, but with the shell I see that it IS there. Any ideas? [12:54] Xubuntu 10.10 [12:57] hey @all [12:58] is someone out there, who some knowleg about wlan debugging? :) [13:01] can anyone tell me the apt-get name for sound juicer? [13:05] i'm not quite sure if this is helping but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295698 [13:15] MorphixNW, what about sound-juicer? :P [13:15] MorphixNW, apt-cache search yourterms [13:16] knome: thank you [13:29] hi all [13:29] is here someone who can help me with xubuntu? [13:29] BlackScorp, i can try... [13:29] i just installed it on my Virtual Box [13:30] after installing some Guest Additions [13:30] i was able to resize the screen [13:30] then i saw some updates, i installed that updates and suddenly it dont work anymore [13:30] BlackScorp, so you can't change the resolution? [13:30] i can change resoloution [13:30] but [13:31] there is no one in the lsit with 1280x800 [13:31] on Virtual Box i was able to press Host+L and ive got automatic resoulution [13:31] now its fixed [13:32] this update [13:32] it was linux-headers [13:33] i saw on wiki that i need to have linux-headers without version number and not generic on my virtual box [13:33] i neeed to have linux-headers-virtual [13:33] BlackScorp, i can't help much with virtual box, but as for resolution, try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [13:34] yeah but i cannot setup the resolution 1280x800 i dont have the option for it [13:36] BlackScorp, as I said, i don't know about virtual box - but normally, you can set resolution via console... you need to add a new mode... [13:36] i just tryed [13:36] xrandr: cannot find output "S-video" [13:37] BlackScorp, is S-video correct? [13:37] good luck with your virtual box ;-) [13:37] :D [13:37] i dont know [13:37] iam new at linux [13:37] on your link it says [13:37] S-video [13:37] ah lol [13:38] next line, if mode not exists you need to create one [13:38] BlackScorp, s-video is just an example... you need to find out, how your output is called... [13:39] hm.. does xubuntu have a GUI for xorg config like on KDE? [13:39] on kubuntu i mean [13:39] BlackScorp, yes, it's called "Arandr" - but if your mode isn't there, this won't help [13:39] the problem is, it was before [13:39] before that last update i could change my resolution [13:40] and after that update it didnt worked anymore [13:40] BlackScorp, hang on, lieutenant is yelling... [13:40] brb [13:42] BlackScorp, ok. resolutions disappear... i haven't completely solved that mystery yet... but we can try to get yours back... [13:46] omfg [13:46] damn [13:47] hm.. nico [13:47] i try to explain [13:47] first i downloaded xubuntu from the official site [13:48] then i just installed it over the gui in virtual box [13:48] i saw everythink worked fine [13:48] after it i installed Guest Additions [13:49] after restart i was able to change the window of virtual box and xubuntu [13:49] just with drag and drop [13:49] the resolution changed automaticly [13:49] then i saw there are some updates whcih need to be installed [13:50] i did it and now iam not able to change it anymore [13:50] did you reboot after updates? [13:50] BlackScorp1, 2 options: install again, don't update - or live without "drag and drop" and set some standard resolutions... [13:50] um, reinstall guest additions? [13:51] BlackScorp1, or listen to people more qualified than me^^ [13:51] i found the problem [13:51] i need to reinstall linux-headers-generic [13:52] i will try this first:D [13:52] and why there is a "1" after my nick [13:52] wtf [14:22] hmmmm weird can anyone suggest why suddenly my external hard drive isnt being mounted? === j-wire_ is now known as j-wire [14:52] hmmmm weird can anyone suggest why suddenly my external hard drive isnt being mounted? [14:53] lsusb shows the device [14:57] MorphixNW: anything in dmesg? [14:58] TheSheep: as weirdly as it stopped working, its now started again [14:58] possibly the drive is on its way out [15:11] как установить куб рабочего стола [15:11] . [15:12] !ru [15:12] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [15:13] как настраивать эфекты сгорание окна и вязкае окна в xubuntu? [15:24] MorphixNW: I have an external USB drive that acts up as well. I find that turning it off and back on helps. [15:25] MorphixNW: Sometimes I reboot the machine too. not always a good policy, but in a bind. [15:56] arthurjohnson: thank you just seems rather strange [16:00] I just been out and bought a 1TG drive :D [17:12] awesome, I have installed, formatted and mounted my new 1tb HDD :) [17:12] fstab is config'd and the drive is auto mounting [17:13] with gparted its easier then it is with Bindows [17:14] 80G+2*160G [17:14] oldschool [17:15] exept the 32G SSD [17:15] until today my media-centre machine was running 2*160gb PATA + 250gb SATA [17:15] now it has 2*160GB PATA and 1*1TB SATA [17:16] Sysi: how do you rate the SSD? [17:16] cheap, still got this nice snappy [17:17] * likemindead has a 500GB 7200 RPM 2.5" SATA hdd waiting for him under the Xmas tree. :D [17:17] hehehe [17:17] windows was almost slower, even if i tweaked it [17:17] Sysi: how cheap? my 1tb just cost me 42GBP [17:18] nowdays i'd get 60G fast disk on that price [17:20] fast disk? [17:20] cant be faster then the SATA 3Gb [17:21] i think it nearly hits sata2 limit [17:21] wow [17:21] guess GBP prices aint so great lol [17:22] ssd ♥ [17:22] SSD havent gotten very big yet though [17:23] 5GB is enough for root, rest isn't so critical [17:23] teue [17:23] true* [17:23] I am only using a 80GB PATA on this particular machine [17:23] but it does its job so :) [17:24] my media-centre is the one that eats up drive space like there no tomorrow [17:24] which brings me too a question, is there anyway I can compress an AVI file without screwing up the video? [17:25] I use K3B to rip my DVDs into the media-centre, however, it use 4gb+ per DVD :( [18:06] help [18:07] Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know. [18:07] somebody i need to install mp3 codec [18:07] someone help me please [18:08] !restricted [18:08] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [18:08] gstreamer bad or ugly? xubuntu-restricted? [18:08] xubuntu restricted [18:09] i dont know im only a newbie [18:09] i only want to play mp3s [18:10] Do you know what the Synaptic Package Manager is? [18:11] yes but i get this error [18:11] Which is? [18:13] sorry for the wait [18:13] Okay [18:14] E: Tipo '“deb' desconocido en la línea 59 de lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list [18:14] E: No se pudo leer la lista de fuentes. [18:14] Vaya al diálogo del repositorio para corregir el problema. [18:14] E: _cache->open() failed, please report. [18:14] :o [18:14] thas it [18:14] :/ [18:14] :| [18:14] That looks like Spanish [18:14] sounds like you have bad line in the sources.list [18:14] what it is? [18:15] line 59 [18:15] Oh, thank God someone can read Spanish [18:15] mark76, it advises you to check your repositories... [18:15] how i do that [18:15] try using the # (hash key) to comment out line 59 [18:16] He/She needs to know how to edit the sources.list first [18:16] sorry, post was meant for lapara [18:16] my bad, sorry for that [18:16] i dont even know how to do that [18:16] See! [18:16] from terminal "sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list" [18:17] !info pico [18:18] Package pico does not exist in maverick [18:18] nano [18:18] MorphixNW: pico is replaced by nano now [18:18] sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list [18:18] thanks charlie, sorry again [18:18] ill just shutup [18:18] no problem [18:18] we are all learning [18:18] :) [18:18] sudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list should work as well [18:18] Error opening terminal: unknown. [18:19] would be better dor beginners... use "sudo mousepad ..." [18:19] Who the heck installed your system? [18:19] *gksudo [18:19] "Applications > Accessories > Terminal" [18:19] me [18:19] you should install updates [18:20] where can i change the language of my system? [18:20] ok now i get a new windows that says sources list [18:21] found it... [18:21] please what i have to do know [18:21] lapara: can you see the line that it is complaining about? [18:22] lets me see [18:22] its probably just a bad character at the start of line 59 maybe [18:23] no i cant find it [18:23] cant find line 59? [18:23] Do you have line numbers? [18:23] It's easier with line numbers [18:25] lapara: Do you see Options? [18:25] Click options, click line numbers [18:26] What's he editing it in? [18:26] mousepad [18:26] Cool [18:28] :| [18:36] How can i change the language of my system... I found System -> Language Support, but that didn't change anything... (connection problems. sorry if this is a re-post) [18:38] !language [18:38] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.. [18:38] Oh. Wrong one [18:39] !language-support [18:39] Nope [18:39] I think you have to change locales, but am not sure of how [18:39] !locale [18:39] To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf [18:39] I might be wrong / usually am wrong [18:42] hmm... was just an idea... it came to me that in situations like those with lapara just now it would be handy to just switch to spanish and give the spanish menu entries... [18:42] Except all IRC support is english [18:43] There is a spanish help channel, but if they ask here, we try to help them [18:44] charlie-tca, i'm not asking you to do that.. but i think i'd enjoy having a spanish ubuntu... just to see how all the things are called in spanish... [18:44] heh, Yeah, I can see where that would help sometimes === nicofs is now known as nicofs_sleeping [19:01] guys, my system just updated, but now it wont boot up, it says its running in low graphics mode :( [19:02] Did you install hardware drivers for video before? [19:02] is there a way I can remove the update that busted it? [19:02] nope, it did it all itself [19:04] When my nvidia machine does that, I remove and reinstall video driver through System -> Hardware Drivers [19:04] system does not contain "hardware drivers" on my system [19:04] Additional drivers? [19:05] yes [19:05] same thing [19:06] it states no drivers installed [19:08] can I simply remove the update that broke it? [19:09] If you know which packages it was, and what the last version was, you can force the downgrade of those packages [19:10] hmmm not impressed, updates are meant to improve things, not bust up my working system [19:10] I have a feeling that many more users will expereince this issue [19:11] I agree. Did you try restarting again? [19:11] yes, I get the low graphic mode msg [19:12] but none of the options seem to work [19:12] how can I manually specify my settings? [19:12] create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file [19:13] what graphics card? [19:13] I dont know [19:13] its onboard [19:13] VIA Chipset [19:14] on a Mini-ATX [19:43] Ok this thing just isnt working :( [19:44] I have created /etc/X11/xorg.conf "filled with a space" to no avail [19:45] does anyone know how to solve this issue? it would appear to be a bug in the update, but I just cant resolve it [19:46] networking is also now not working :( [19:46] Local networking? [19:46] none of it [19:46] I cant ping anything, "ifconfig" is only showing local loopback [19:47] Is networking different to internetting? [19:47] no [19:47] someone jhad the issue in here earlier and they resolve it somhow [19:47] Are you saying you have no connection to the internet or just to a particular site? [19:47] no internet [19:48] Hmm [19:48] And yet... [19:48] Different machine? [19:48] dist-upgrade broke it all [19:48] yes [19:48] Aha :D [19:48] ;) failsafe [19:49] What were you upgrading to? [19:50] I wasnt [19:50] it was a major update [19:50] linux-headers broke it I think [19:50] Oh [19:51] I dont know the version numbers [19:51] plus I dont think I can do very much without the internet [19:52] c'è qualche esperto online? [19:55] I think I need to install linux-headers that match my kernel version [19:56] this command would fix it if I had internet "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(name -r) [20:00] MorphixNW: restart, and pick an earlier kernel from the grub menu [20:01] If you don't get the menu, hold right-shift after the bios check to get it [20:27] charlie-tca: that doesnt work :( [20:48] No old kernels or right-shift? [20:51] lots but they dont work either [21:22] Have anybody installing xubuntu to netbook here? [21:23] I am third time for today here and nobody have an idea what is my problem about. [21:25] Hm, Maybe you could start by telling by what the problem is you are experiencing or asking a full question? [21:25] If the question is whether or not anyone ever installed Xubuntu on a netbook, the answer is yes. [21:27] I am trying to install the system from flash drive. The drive was created using usb-creator.exe tool under Windows. When I'm booting from it using my laptop it says it can not find linux. Okay, I feed it with /casper/vmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz, then it loads. However at the end it says there's no init found, but I see with ls that it IS there [21:28] That can be a difficult question for us. Many of us do not have hardware that boots from USB, and so have never tried to do that. [21:29] So everyone used cdrom for that? [21:29] Perhaps you would find more help with that issue in #ubuntu [21:29] Mostly, yes, we use cdrom [21:29] May I should try to install it through tftp? [21:29] *maybe [21:31] The best information I have on installing from USB is http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/ [21:32] Thank you, Charlie. Will check out that information. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se