=== gp[8]_ is now known as gp[8] [04:18] [muon] jmthomas * 1208223 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Transaction.cpp Transaction.h) svn add. This has broken the build for quite a while without me noticing it... [09:23] o/ === hunger_ is now known as hunger [10:19] is there a known packaging problem related to kde 4.6 BETA2? kmail has been removed (4:4.4.8-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa3 <> 4:4.4.8-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa2) ? [10:25] shadeslayer: there? === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [10:56] shadeslayer: anyway, can you backport kdepim to beta ppa too? (with ~ppa4 so it's higher than in updates) [11:01] yofel: why does kdepim need to go into beta again? [11:02] oh I see, version number is smaller than updates PPA so people upgrading have problems [11:24] could somebody with more bugtracker foo remove Amarok from this entry? It links to Amarok 1.4 which is not shipped anymore and unmaintained [11:30] Mamarok: which? [11:33] oops, forgot that one :) -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/62842 [11:34] Ubuntu bug 62842 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox & daap with itunes 7, 8, 9, 10 doesn't work correctly" [Low,Triaged] [11:43] closed [11:43] it's a shame daap doesn't work, it was good fun to be able to browse other people's collections at conferences when it did briefly work [11:44] just another evil point to apple [12:15] Bug 692651 ... any ideas? [12:15] Launchpad bug 692651 in kdeutils (Ubuntu) "Ark : when creating a zip file Ark doesn't encode accents properly (i.e. "é" "è" etc.)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692651 [12:16] Riddell: Daap does work in Amarok, it just depends on the version [12:17] of Daap I mean [12:23] Riddell: it works fine to view the daap shares of other free software users [12:23] Riddell: its *only* apple itunes shares that don't work, because they're encrypted [12:25] you can still get the diddly dee music off my lappy at UDSes :) [12:25] or could, assuming i go to more udses.... [12:42] So Skype says that apachelogger_ is a female.... hmmmm === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:50] droidslayer: he is! :D [12:56] * apachelogger_ thought that the nice skype test call lady might became a man if the caller is female [12:56] it did not [12:56] which I find sad [12:56] markey: why did you call me at 6? [12:56] in the morning :D [12:56] that is the odd thing about it ^^ [12:57] apachelogger_: the idea was to get you out of bed, and overall just annoy you [12:57] apachelogger_: it wasn't really me [12:57] apachelogger_: was a cron job [12:57] :p [12:57] ah, I see [12:57] well === jussi01 is now known as jussi [12:57] like that guy who called me the other day: "Yes, hello?" "Hahahahaha!" [12:58] that is fun [12:58] hm [12:58] BTW: I really like the ECMA scripting for configuration management of desktops. [12:58] Keep up the good work. [12:58] now see [12:59] that is one reason I would not want to work in the linux mint team [12:59] jussi01_: haha [13:02] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot123.png [13:02] I do love jimbo :D [13:03] JontheEchidna: so, what to do about quickaccessy? [13:03] can we boot it? [13:03] * apachelogger_ probably asks the 5th time or so [13:04] I guess. I'm not really maintaining it anymore [13:04] * Riddell grabs the new akonadi for packaging [13:05] JontheEchidna: lets do it away then [13:05] on that note [13:05] did we not want to add something else? [13:05] oh [13:05] trash applet? [13:05] * apachelogger_ seems to remember a bug report about that [13:13] Anyone have any ideas about why kdevelop-php would FTBFS only on armel and powerpc? [13:13] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop-php/1.1.80-0ubuntu1 [13:13] it doesnt like them [13:13] I can replicate the failure on our arm boxes. [13:14] /usr/bin/kdev-pg-qt falls over [13:14] maybe a datatype thing? [13:14] seems a bit random TBH [13:15] ScottK: can you paste kdevelop-php-1.1.80/parser/php.g line 1095 [13:15] or maybe 1090 to 2000 [13:15] apachelogger_: That's the end of the file. [13:16] what do lines 1090 to 1095 look like? [13:16] Getting [13:17] } // end of namespace Php [13:17] :] [13:17] -- kate: space-indent on; indent-width 4; tab-width 4; replace-tabs on; auto-insert-doxygen on; mode KDevelop-PG[-Qt] [13:17] hmmmmm [13:17] interesting [13:17] Whith a couple of blank lines thrown in that quassel helpfully omitted [13:17] is that kdevelop-pg-qt the latest version? [13:17] It is. [13:17] I also tried to build against git head and it failed there too on arm [13:18] Same error. [13:18] maybe talk to people in #kdevelop [13:18] surely they will have some idea what could be going wrong [13:18] Perhaps. [13:18] I need to be offline most of today. [13:19] Is there someone who you might suggest for this while I'm away? [13:19] uh swweet, synaptiks actually manages to turn off my touchpad when typing [13:19] <3 [13:19] ScottK: shadeslayer ;) [13:20] otherwise I could try harass someone later on [13:32] Sorry cant do a lot of stuff... trying to be of some use by handling bug reports but other than that ill be available after 1st Jan === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger [13:32] Riddell: what do we do for the xmas party? [13:33] Nightrose: did your upgrade problem resolve yet? [13:33] apachelogger: can we haz ponies for Xmas [13:33] Or unicorns [13:34] apachelogger: game of Doom? [13:34] we can, if you tell me how to implement [13:34] Riddell: what is that? [13:34] oh [13:34] brb [13:34] Doom [13:34] The game [13:34] you know, the pre-Quake game from ID [13:35] Riddell: s/doom/call of duty [13:35] that sounds new and fangled [13:35] It is... [13:36] I wish we had steam for Linux [13:36] game of kpat then? [13:37] kpat is not networkable is it ^^ [13:38] http://qt-apps.org/news/?id=340 [13:38] nice [13:38] apachelogger: Sounds like a decent GSoC project for someone. [13:38] ScottK: kpat for network? [13:38] yes [13:38] *nod* [13:38] apachelogger: old [13:38] also someone could make systemsettings not suck [13:38] * ScottK notices the new digikam and wonders who's on it. [13:39] * apachelogger thinks we should start collecting ideas for GSoC [13:39] Hmmm... I plan on participating in gsoc 2011 [13:39] ScottK: that makes me wonder where lure got lost to [13:39] apachelogger: yeah [13:39] apachelogger: Yes. I've wondered the same. [13:40] On a similar note I emailed awen to let him know his 4.4.5 packages were finally in lucid-proposed. Got a nice reply. He's currently very busy with having an actual job, but does expect to return. [13:41] sweet [13:42] droidslayer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/GSoC2011Ideas [13:42] apachelogger: onice [13:43] Well... me and aakshay will work on language selector after exams [13:44] sweet [13:44] droidslayer: In what century does "after exams" arrive? [13:44] ScottK: 1 Jan 2011 [13:44] OK. [13:44] ^^ [13:45] I got my exams postponed to attend uds and after that all I've had are exams [13:45] droidslayer: oh? what do you expect to do on language selector? [13:45] Riddell: un python it [13:46] Effectively make it not break.... [13:46] do talk to jlayt about it too, he's doing work upstream on the language bits [13:46] UI update as well [13:46] Riddell: ok [13:47] ideally it would all be upstream, it would use packagekit or the like to install language packs [13:47] I don't know how cross-distro the im-selector stuff is though, that needs investigation [13:47] Hmm .... like use a dbus call to install stuff? [13:48] Riddell: Would you have time to email lure and inquire about his well being and let him know we miss him? [13:48] packagekit is dbus yes [13:48] Riddell: the thing is that every distro has their tools anyway, and a lot of the stuff actually depends on how the specific distro actually does l10n [13:48] apachelogger: which is a bug :) [13:49] e.g. suse would be difficult to adress at all [13:49] distro tools are a bug :) [13:49] yes they are [13:49] suse is a large bug in that respect! [13:49] hahaha [13:49] yast... [13:49] Lol [13:49] * apachelogger would love yast if it had any sort of good structure [13:49] Generically I agree, but until the cross-distro tools support all the use cases of the distro tools, switching is problemative. [13:50] droidslayer: anyway, the setting the system language stuff is currently done by language-selector and it would be best to have that in the KDE language UI and jlayt may have plans for that [13:50] So webkit versioning mess might coming our way with a qt 4.8 release [13:50] my kmail i the broken :( === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter_work === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter_ === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter_work [13:51] Riddell: wait... your talking about language selector qt right? [13:51] anyhow, to do language magic upstream one would first need to find out what exactly distros need to do, how they do it right now and how to transition to a new global approach [13:51] Or the whole language selector? [13:52] that is 2 years of work, approx 5 million EUR [13:52] :-P [13:52] so I would go and look for some governmental funding [13:52] Well we'd also need distros to stop doing silly things like stripping out per language language packs to make their own per language language packs. [13:52] I hear the european union loves giving money to projects ;) ;) ;) [13:52] As long as we're using Rosetta, the discussion of upstreaming stuff is pointless. [13:52] droidslayer: what's the difference? [13:53] Riddell: language selector qt is just one 70 line python file [13:53] apachelogger: that's all stuff jlayt is looking into [13:54] Language selector.... is.... a whole project [13:54] ScottK: Lure hasn't done much for some time, but I can indeed send him a christmas e-mail [13:54] Riddell: Thanks. [13:54] Riddell: I do not envy him then [13:55] I spot three Kubuntu packages in http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi - If someone wants to do fixes, I'll gladly sponsor them later today or tomorrow. [13:56] So like ill start on 3 projects in Jan [13:56] Whee [13:57] does gtk-oxygen make emacs die for other people? [13:58] Riddell: use vim.. http://xkcd.com/378/ [13:58] Wait no [13:59] Emacs >>> vim [13:59] hahaha [13:59] thats better [14:00] does the "configure sharing" in folder properties in dolphin do squat diddly for anyone else? [14:00] maco: its broken [14:00] well [14:00] oh good not just me [14:00] rbelem is fixing it [14:00] or fixed it [14:00] WIP or something [14:01] * droidslayer waves fist at apachelogger [14:01] just as long as it isnt a sign of disk corruption :) [14:01] droidslayer: want another ride? :P [14:01] apachelogger: heh :-P [14:01] oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh [14:01] so [14:01] I am using windows [14:02] :-\ [14:02] and Dell has this very nice help center thingy [14:02] Yep.... [14:02] and that thingy incorporates a system check thingy [14:02] which is super nice [14:02] checks disk smart stuff and cpu extension working and whatnot [14:02] apachelogger: the one that tests graphics etc? [14:02] dunno, I aborted it while CPU testing [14:02] supposedly it does graphics to [14:03] It does... [14:03] anyhow, having such a thing for Linux would be super awesom [14:03] e [14:03] And i agree its super awesome [14:03] There is [14:03] quite the large project [14:03] but generally [14:03] Phronix test suite [14:03] ehm [14:03] no [14:03] Phronix test suite [14:03] phronix test suite is made so that silly people can make silly benchmarks [14:03] I think it does the same thing [14:04] yeah [14:04] eat your hardware [14:04] but the use is different [14:04] also that test suite is not accessible for the user [14:04] plus it does siilly things IIRC [14:04] Never tried it [14:04] so what I would want is an integrated solution that ensures relability of the system [14:04] integration is key there [14:04] Riddell: If you have time for binary New in the course of your archive-admin duties, there's a backports New in maverick that needs attending to (since it's my upload technically, I feel I shoulnd't do it). [14:04] Hmm [14:05] Anyways... Gtg and study... :-( [14:05] ScottK: yes I'll do that today [14:06] steveire: what's the purpose of this file usr/lib/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite3.so in akonadi? [14:06] Riddell: Thanks. [14:06] well, my kmail cannot send mails [14:06] awesome [14:06] oh [14:06] steveire: ping [14:06] Riddell: sqlite support [14:06] Riddell: needs to be split [14:06] sqlite for mobile, mysql for desktop [14:06] so ultimately we would have both in packages that go like akonadi-dbdriver-$db or somthing like that [14:08] Riddell: I think the qt sqlite driver was not good enough, so that's one that works. I don't know the details [14:08] how does akonadi chose which database to use? [14:09] santa_ on #debian-qt-kde was discussing improving Akonadi packaging yesterday (they are prepping 4.6 packages for an unofficial repository) and so whoever takes this one might want to coordinat on naming if nothing else. [14:12] There's a cmake switch for the default, and I think a configu file to change it [14:13] I think I'll leave that file unpackaged for now and there should be a todo item to investigate getting kubuntu mobile to use akonadi with sqlite [14:13] steveire: grantlee on windows is the broken [14:13] building I mean [14:14] Really? 0.1.7? [14:14] yes [14:14] well [14:14] with Qt SDK [14:14] also I know why :P [14:14] * Riddell wonders why apachelogger is building grantlee on windows [14:14] also I know how to fix it :P [14:15] How's that? [14:15] sec [14:15] steveire: http://gitorious.org/grantlee/grantlee/blobs/master/CMakeLists.txt#line29 [14:15] this line messes things up [14:16] as pointed out by the comment above plugin loading will fail if plugins were built with nodbg but Qt with and vice versa [14:16] now since you cannot know whether Qt was built with or without you cannot use that line [14:16] And that fails at build time? [14:16] no [14:16] runtime [14:16] it just fails to load the plugins [14:16] that is the horrible thing about it [14:16] Oh. You said building above [14:16] * apachelogger spent a whole afternoon hunting this down [14:17] oh, yeah, my bad :) [14:17] anyhow [14:17] Well, presumably the plugins are built at the same time as the rest, so you do know. [14:17] what you should be doing is use add_definitions(${QT_DEFINITIONS}) [14:17] steveire: yeah, but the current defintion does not take the knowing into account [14:18] if you use QT_DEFINTIONS (which comes from FindQt4) you are always in line with Qt [14:19] so I would remove the whole if MINGW part and instead add the Qt definitions below [14:20] Riddell: I am now using a working operating system :P [14:20] Ok, I'll try that out later [14:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/546270/ [14:22] steveire: yeah, just get the Qt SDK with unpatched 0.1.7 it will fail to load plugins :) [14:22] * apachelogger needs to wipe his akonadi/kdepim setup since it is hopelessly broken :( [14:23] You shouldn't need the add_definitions either if QT_USE_FILE is used (which it is) [14:25] hello all [14:26] hi skamster [14:27] i've got a plasmoid which is written in python.. my problem is, that i've got some plugins in subfolders, when i create the plasmoid out of it, the path isn't alright anymore (as it seems), so it didn't find any plugins [14:27] how is the structure of subfolders in plasmoids to access them as well? [14:28] you can use locate() to find where things are installed to in KDE [14:29] oh [14:29] skamster: http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKStandardDirs.html [14:29] skamster: you mean plugins inside your plasmoid folder? [14:30] Currently I'm (as a test) tethered to my Droid and accessing the Internet that way. [14:30] The amazingly complex procedure to make this work on Kubuntu Maverick was: [14:30] 1. Connect the phone to the computer via USB. [14:30] 2. Enable tethering in the Droid's system settings. [14:30] 3. There is no 3. The rest just happened automagically. [14:30] ScottK: nice :) [14:31] apachelog: yes, not default-plugins (if they exists) but written in own code, in the projects in subfolders :) [14:31] Sput: when do we get mobile quassel? [14:31] i've also a standaloneversion, which works :) [14:31] skamster: you should be able to access them thru plasma [14:31] Now I just realized (after I switched) I need to print something, which means I need to be on my network .... [14:31] at least in the ecma engine you can [14:31] sec [14:32] mh, isn't there just a path-change possible? [14:32] or is it also zippet when installed? [14:33] skamster: line 232 might be something like what you want http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeutils/printer-applet/printer-applet.py?revision=1178278&view=markup [14:36] skamster: http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/plasma/html/classPlasma_1_1Package.html#aa59691ae2afda105112147eb9779f259 [14:36] steveire: these tickboxes to turn on and off addressbooks and calendars in kontact 4.6 are tricksy, they're off by default and it just seems like the apps aren't working [14:36] not sure if that is what you want to do ^^ [14:37] Riddell: I also have problems with that. Tokoe is willing to listen to better solutions [14:39] thanks to all, Riddel: the second one could be a nice thing, i have to try.. this is my pluginmanager, maybe then it's easier to see the problem.. :) http://pastebin.com/c5weaY52 [14:40] steveire: well turn them on by default surely? [14:41] * maco agrees with Riddell [14:43] steveire: otherwise kontact 4.6 seems to be working well here, congratulations :) [14:43] steveire: do you know if akonadi 1.4.90 is sensible to use with kontact 4.4? [14:43] apachelogger, there are n900 quassel builds iirc ;) [14:44] yeah [14:44] but [14:44] I find the interface barely suiteable for desktop use :P [14:44] ... imagine what would happen if I started quassel on a phone [15:17] akonadi 1.4.90 seems to crash kaddressbook 4.4.8 [16:07] ok updated my vm to natty today [16:08] gosh another new digikam release out [16:09] only issue is i need to recompile my virtualbox tools [16:49] Riddell: I asked about Akonadi 1.4.90 and PIM 4.4.8/9 on the packager's list. No response yet that I've seen. [16:52] we already had 1.4.80 which had the same crash so I uploaded to natty === Tscheesy_ is now known as Tscheesy [17:04] json is so much better than xml -.- [17:08] why's that? [17:09] xml is so incredibly fat [17:10] also json takes less headtwisting to de/serialize [17:10] * apachelogger can crash kwin by alt-tabbing [17:10] also after crash I get groupped windows all over the place [17:10] rather silly [17:10] shadeslayer: ping [17:24] apachelogger: I jut checked the various launchpad bugs all related to the failure to play audio CD and I wonder if those are not all related: [17:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdemultimedia/+bug/606709 [17:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/phonon/+bug/464656 [17:24] Ubuntu bug 606709 in KDE Multimedia "can't play audio CD" [Unknown,Confirmed] [17:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/taglib-sharp/+bug/597933 [17:24] Ubuntu bug 464656 in phonon-backends (Ubuntu) "amarok crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_get_autoplay_mrls() while playing audiocd" [Low,Triaged] [17:24] Ubuntu bug 597933 in taglib-sharp (Ubuntu) "Audio discs not played " [Undecided,New] [17:26] Mamarok: bug 464656 is not related to the first one [17:27] Launchpad bug 464656 in phonon-backends (Ubuntu) "amarok crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_get_autoplay_mrls() while playing audiocd" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/464656 [17:27] though it should be closed because we have it in kde too [17:27] Mamarok: the first and the last could indeed be related [17:27] though probably not [17:27] because [17:28] IIRC amarok gets the track listing from the audiocd kio slave [17:28] taglib most likely does not [17:29] Mamarok: can you please send me all the above in a mail? [17:29] * apachelogger is currently walking through phonon bugs and has a broken kmail ^^ [17:29] apachelogger: OK, will do :) [17:38] ScottK: I've posted positive feedback on SRU bug on -proposed [17:39] Quintasan: Thanks. [17:40] Mamarok: thx [17:42] apachelogger: is this your miracle script? bzr branch lp:~apachelogger/+junk/release-script-refactor [17:42] Would someone who has the powah please add libasyncns to kubuntu-bugs? [17:43] Riddell: Bug 689766 <-- Please promote libasyncns (if someone didn't get to it already). [17:43] Launchpad bug 689766 in libasyncns (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] libasyncns needed as b-d of loudmoyth" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689766 [17:49] dantti: yes [17:53] kvkbd failed to build in lucas' most recent rebuild test. I have it fixed locally and will upload later today (need to run out again). [18:15] apachelogger: I saw that there is a kpackagekit there already does it know about git ? [18:15] not sure if the version there does, probably not [18:16] * apachelogger supposedly created it for a kubuntu svn snapshot [18:16] dantti: is kpk still in playground? [18:17] apachelogger: but it is in git now [18:17] so? [18:18] apachelogger: so does the path matter? [18:18] since projects.kde.org paths are just virtual.. [18:19] yes [18:19] translations are not in git :P [18:19] dantti: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/sysadmin [18:19] ah yes [18:19] I do not even find kpk [18:19] apachelogger: yes, it's there as apper already [18:19] ahhhh [18:19] uhhhh [18:19] * apachelogger did not know it is called apper now :P [18:20] apachelogger: i'm releasing the last kpk version now... [18:20] oh [18:20] eh [18:20] * apachelogger blinks [18:20] dantti: is the translation still running as kpackageki? [18:21] t [18:21] apachelogger: well I think yes [18:21] because I didn't change the sources to apper yet [18:21] oh [18:21] * apachelogger calls this a mess :P [18:22] yes renaming is a mess [18:22] at least fedora now has a decent version.. [18:24] Pushed up to revision 115. [18:24] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=115&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 115 | Coolo: updated kghostview to 0.4 [18:26] dantti: I'll move everything to apper for r116 [18:26] so you'll only be able to use r115 for the last kpk release ;) [18:26] apachelogger: k, that's ok for me :D === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [18:27] apachelogger: to use I run ./kpackagekit? [18:27] first use --help [18:28] --git-branch master -b trunk -v 1000000 -p ssh -u sitter [18:28] something like that [18:28] jsut with your login and proper version ;) [18:28] k [18:31] !find [18:31] Search for a package or a file: !find [18:31] !find bzr-fast-export.py [18:31] Package/file bzr-fast-export.py does not exist in maverick [18:31] hm [18:47] Hey, i'm trying to create a deb package of some library/plugin i made. However, when i call dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot i get this error in cmake: "Qt compiled without support for -fvisibility=hidden." from the FindKDE4Internal macro [18:54] apachelogger: ./lib/l10nstat.rb:139:in `sort': comparison of Array with Array failed (ArgumentError) [18:54] bug for u :P [18:54] install msgfmt [18:55] !find msgfmt [18:55] Found: liblocale-msgfmt-perl [18:55] wah [18:55] * apachelogger kicks the bot [18:55] dantti: that is in gettext it would seem [18:56] --no-stat should also work around it === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [19:09] install(FILES dolphin-box-plugin.desktop DESTINATION ${SERVICES_INSTALL_DIR}) <-- this also seems to give an error. It wants to install the desktop file in my local /usr [19:11] apachelogger: didn't check again - sorry - and now at him until new year [19:34] damn, why is it so hard to package something? I now get this error: missing files (usr/include/*), aborting [19:37] Nightrose: still around? [19:37]