coz_ | hey all | 00:33 |
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histo | ughh can't htink of a domain name | 01:58 |
Andre_Gondim | I lost the right click on firefox behaivor, is it normal? | 01:59 |
magn3ts | update manager doesn't use app indicator ? | 07:05 |
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Daekdroom | ??daily | 12:07 |
Daekdroom | !daily | 12:07 |
ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 12:07 |
wzssyqa | natty supports ps3 now? | 12:43 |
bazhang | wzssyqa, supports in what way | 12:45 |
wzssyqa | bazhang: no idea, but there are alternative iso in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ | 12:46 |
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wzssyqa | powerpc+ps3 | 12:46 |
bazhang | wzssyqa, I guess for those who have not updated firmware to eliminate "other OS" then | 12:47 |
wzssyqa | bazhang: maybe, | 12:47 |
wzssyqa | now days ,with cuda ,opencl etc, the ps3 has not be so amaizing | 12:48 |
bazhang | wzssyqa, not sure there, sorry, first I've seen/heard of it | 12:49 |
gnomefreak | i would think by the time of release it should support ps3 but i got rid of my ps3 so not 100% sure | 12:53 |
gnomefreak | preffered applications needs to be fixed still :( | 12:55 |
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dnivra | how much space would be needed to install natty? would 11GB suffice? | 13:05 |
yofel | certainly, the base system only needs ~2GB | 13:06 |
dnivra | yofel, thanks! i plan to install some apps and try to find/fix bugs if possible. | 13:07 |
gnomefreak | finding bugs will be easy | 13:11 |
Pici | iirc the ps3 builds were stopped. I thought I saw an email about that. | 13:11 |
Pici | wzssyqa, gnomefreak: You may want to take a look at this for ps3 related information; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-December/000797.html | 13:13 |
dnivra | j #ubuntu-offtopic | 13:13 |
dnivra | oops | 13:13 |
dnivra | gnomefreak, sorry router got reset. | 13:14 |
dnivra | i hope to fix some as well; not just find :) | 13:14 |
gnomefreak | i cant usemy browser ye, updates keep causing it to stop loading pages | 13:17 |
gnomefreak | thats what i get for not turning on pc in weeks/month | 13:17 |
gnomefreak | be back in about an hour while updates finish | 13:19 |
gnomefreak | i lost my terminal menus :/ | 14:59 |
gnomefreak | oh i see | 14:59 |
gnomefreak | thats kid of an odd place to put them | 15:00 |
gnomefreak | s/kid/kind | 15:00 |
Pici | gnomefreak: global menu confusion? | 15:03 |
gnomefreak | yeah | 15:04 |
gnomefreak | why does the top panel only hold 1 app at a time. i have to use ctrl+alt+tab to change apps | 15:05 |
* Pici shrugs, hasn't upgraded yet | 15:05 | |
zniavre_ | can you work on few apps in the same time ? | 15:06 |
gnomefreak | you can but top panel only holds one app at a time. it isnt an easy point and click to change app views | 15:06 |
gnomefreak | example i have terminal and browser open. terminal is on top panel atm. the browser doesnt show until i use ctrl+alt+tab | 15:08 |
gnomefreak | and my weather applet is gone | 15:09 |
gnomefreak | seems i cant add it either | 15:09 |
gnomefreak | looks great just not practical for end user | 15:11 |
gnomefreak | ok so how do i turn off compiz. change background menu doesnt have it and i dont have any menu items (applications,admin,system) | 15:14 |
charlie-tca | Try using "classic desktop" session at login? I don't think that has to have compiz enabled | 15:15 |
gnomefreak | still doesnt fix the problems with menu i dont think but be back in a few ill try it | 15:16 |
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gnomefreak | ok clasic looks normal, however in the apperance dialog still doesnt give me a tab for visual(compiz menu) | 15:24 |
* gnomefreak smoke,think | 15:29 | |
sagaci | ah bugger, another month and a half until 11.04 alpha 2 | 15:33 |
joaopinto | tried Unity yesterday, I am somehow disappointed | 15:34 |
joaopinto | I just played for a few minutes, but apart from the sidebar launcher which is not novell what does it bring ? | 15:35 |
sagaci | global context menu bar | 15:36 |
gnomefreak | sagaci: define that please. other than the side bar there is no system,appl,places menus ect.. | 15:39 |
gnomefreak | 1 app in task bar at a time as well | 15:40 |
* gnomefreak in classic atm | 15:40 | |
gnomefreak | dont feel bad i cant even use the 2.6.37-10 kernel | 15:43 |
gnomefreak | is nvidia-current-modaliases needed? | 15:45 |
bjsnider | that package has been deprecated | 15:45 |
gnomefreak | bjsnider: thanks | 15:45 |
gnomefreak | maybe the kernel will get past plymouth now | 15:46 |
* gnomefreak back to looking for a menu | 16:14 | |
gnomefreak | it seems unity is only partially implemented from what http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1#Ubuntu%20Desktop%20Edition says | 16:32 |
Spirits-Sight | anyone having issue with the main menu button bring up a folder with the links to apps / other stuff? | 17:23 |
Spirits-Sight | also issue with telepathy chat window not allowing more then one line of information and not showing user list? on right of chat window? | 17:24 |
Spirits-Sight | and as type window gets bigger instead of the input feild getting bigger? | 17:25 |
joaopinto | isn't the main menu expect to bring the apps folder ? isn't that a design decision :P ? | 17:26 |
Spirits-Sight | joaopinto I don't think so | 17:30 |
Spirits-Sight | its suppose to be a nice dark user interface with a search feild at the top | 17:31 |
IdleOne | Spirits-Sight: nope that is in UNE | 17:32 |
IdleOne | in Unity Desktop it brings up the applications folder | 17:32 |
IdleOne | I prefer the UNE way. sleeker. | 17:33 |
Spirits-Sight | but UDE and UNE are going to become one I read somewhere | 17:34 |
joaopinto | after a few minutes testing the only thing I like from unity is the global menu | 17:34 |
Spirits-Sight | globa menu is the one button right? | 17:35 |
joaopinto | the global menu makes it easier for my parents to locate things :D | 17:35 |
joaopinto | is the menu on the top bar | 17:36 |
joaopinto | for all apps | 17:36 |
joaopinto | instead of the menu over the window | 17:36 |
Spirits-Sight | so this is not in UDE yet ? becaue it brings up the folder instead | 17:37 |
Spirits-Sight | I like UDE I like having the bar on the left side, I wish it had when bring mouse over / click show the windows open for that app | 17:38 |
joaopinto | Spirits-Sight, I am talking about the menu you see on every application, not about the "Applications" menu | 17:38 |
joaopinto | the menu is now shown on the top bar | 17:39 |
Spirits-Sight | oo yes sorry got it now :-) mind slow : -) did not know that was the name of that, I like that alot :-) | 17:39 |
joaopinto | of the display, not of the window | 17:39 |
joaopinto | :) | 17:39 |
Spirits-Sight | I wish that was already across the board but I know its being developed :-) | 17:40 |
Spirits-Sight | are u having any issue with the chat client (default) | 17:40 |
joaopinto | I don't use empathy | 17:40 |
joaopinto | and I am not yet using natty, the installer is falling on me :\ | 17:41 |
Spirits-Sight | oo sorry to hear that :( | 17:41 |
Spirits-Sight | what u use for chat client? | 17:41 |
Spirits-Sight | does it interface into the system like empathy? | 17:42 |
Spirits-Sight | brb restart system :-) hopefully some things are fixed | 17:44 |
Spirits-Sight | ok I am back, did u see my question? | 17:53 |
Spirits-Sight | anyone having issue with empathy window (chat) getting bigger as you type instead of the field getting taller | 17:54 |
Spirits-Sight | also I get the issue of: No system tray detected on this system. Unable to start, exiting. ??? | 17:55 |
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SamruaiAlba | Hello. How can I get the Broadcom 94318MPG wireles card working under Natty? | 18:32 |
SamruaiAlba | Adys, know Nysile? | 18:33 |
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histo | ughh natty command line virtualbox guest boots to black screen trying to trouble shoot | 20:01 |
charlie-tca | is it working again in natty? | 20:03 |
charlie-tca | histo: might be bug 691555 | 20:13 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 691555 in linux (Ubuntu) "VirtualBox not compatible with CONFIG_DEBUG_SET_MODULE_RONX [STAGING]" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691555 | 20:14 |
histo | charlie-tca: yeap | 20:32 |
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BUGabundo | o/ | 21:14 |
Ian_Corne | o/ | 21:16 |
* charlie-tca waves | 21:17 | |
BUGabundo | don't you love when you set the CPU to powersave and it auto sets to ondemand? | 21:18 |
BUGabundo | at least it's a little better then setting performance on boot and no throttling back | 21:18 |
BUGabundo | # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0p1 ibs=100M | 21:23 |
Amaranth | BUGabundo: Why would you use powersave? It doesn't do what the name implies | 21:24 |
BUGabundo | Amaranth: I know very well | 21:25 |
BUGabundo | I've been reading on cpu gobernors for years | 21:25 |
BUGabundo | I know who it works | 21:25 |
Amaranth | Personally I think they should just have ondemand and performance, not sure why they keep the others around | 21:25 |
BUGabundo | but this laptop BURNs a bit, and has little battery, and I'm bare naked legs | 21:26 |
Amaranth | Ah, you're using it as thermal management | 21:26 |
BUGabundo | I do miss Interactive... I have that on android | 21:26 |
Amaranth | I wish we had a separate knob for that | 21:26 |
BUGabundo | and you can notice the difference to ondemand | 21:26 |
Amaranth | My palm pre has screenstate, useful in that specific device | 21:26 |
Amaranth | I'm guessing interactive is similar | 21:27 |
BUGabundo | Amaranth: interactive ramps up away faster, dropping right after that | 21:28 |
BUGabundo | awesome for user interaction | 21:28 |
Amaranth | ah, screenstate just ramps from min to max speed depending on if the screen is on | 21:28 |
Amaranth | Unless you've got it plugged in, then it runs low speed because charging plus overclocking = overheating | 21:29 |
BUGabundo | I OC my android HTC Desire HD 50% | 21:30 |
BUGabundo | from 1GHz to 1.5 | 21:30 |
BUGabundo | stable with no temp change :D | 21:30 |
maurer_ | In classic desktop mode, alt-tab will occasionally crash compiz. Is this a known issue? Is there a workaround? | 21:36 |
BUGabundo | lucky you | 21:36 |
BUGabundo | I can't even get compiz to start | 21:36 |
maurer_ | (the workaround I've been using is to switch to a VT and restart it with DISPLAY=:0 compiz, but this is super awkward. | 21:36 |
BUGabundo | and Amaranth went underground now :P | 21:36 |
BUGabundo | Ian_Corne: http://android-pt.com/android-gingerbread-231-on-desirehd | 21:37 |
Ian_Corne | yeh yeh, I'm stuck with my milestone | 21:38 |
Ian_Corne | :p | 21:38 |
Ian_Corne | had to reset it today, I wasn't getting any msgs for about a month now | 21:38 |
Ian_Corne | and email stopped working too | 21:38 |
BUGabundo | lol | 21:39 |
BUGabundo | what rom? | 21:39 |
Ian_Corne | default! | 21:40 |
patdk-wk | people run stock? | 21:40 |
BUGabundo | eewwww | 21:40 |
BUGabundo | put CM on that baby | 21:40 |
BUGabundo | 2.2.1 | 21:40 |
nperry | People use stock? | 21:42 |
BUGabundo | some do | 21:44 |
BUGabundo | don't know why | 21:44 |
BUGabundo | but hey, they are free to do so | 21:44 |
charlie-tca | hm, If I can't get xubuntu to install from the daily images, how am I going to break it? | 21:44 |
BUGabundo | one of the admins of our android site, has a Nexus One, unrooted and stock | 21:44 |
Ian_Corne | BUGabundo: milestone is different :( | 21:47 |
BUGabundo | so what? | 21:48 |
BUGabundo | want a link? or you know google? | 21:48 |
BUGabundo | even milestone is rootable | 21:48 |
BUGabundo | has been for months | 21:48 |
Ian_Corne | Rootable doesn't mean it's flashable | 21:48 |
patdk-wk | my droid2 is rootable and flashable | 21:48 |
patdk-wk | as soon as a rootkit came out for it, mine was done | 21:48 |
patdk-wk | so much better battery life now | 21:49 |
BUGabundo | http://android.doshaska.net/cm6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784750 | 21:49 |
Ian_Corne | droid is different then milestone | 21:49 |
BUGabundo | good bye Ian_Corne. see you tomorrow :p | 21:49 |
Ian_Corne | I'm not doing that now :p | 21:50 |
BUGabundo | DO IT | 21:50 |
BUGabundo | [12 dec 2010]CyanogenMod 6.1 for Milestone (2.2.1) | 21:50 |
Ian_Corne | I'll do it friday | 21:52 |
patdk-wk | that way you can't talk to family for christmas? | 21:52 |
BUGabundo | enouth offtopic :P | 21:52 |
BUGabundo | everyone move to #android-root or #cyanogenmod | 21:52 |
patdk-wk | where is my natty-rom? | 21:53 |
Ian_Corne | :D | 21:54 |
Ian_Corne | ?daily | 21:54 |
Ian_Corne | booh | 21:54 |
patdk-wk | I don't thnk it would boot on my phone :) | 21:54 |
Ian_Corne | Probably not :p | 21:54 |
BUGabundo | humm | 21:55 |
BUGabundo | I have yet to put ubuntu on one of my androids | 21:55 |
BUGabundo | toooo lazy for it | 21:55 |
Ian_Corne | and too useles? :p | 21:55 |
patdk-wk | man, why is my computer going 100mbit again :( | 21:55 |
Ian_Corne | aha, I've had reports of that too | 21:56 |
Ian_Corne | And I've had it myself too | 21:56 |
maurer_ | Out of curiosity, do people know whether ubuntu is considering "Classic" mode a critical feature for natty's release? Given how long so much has been broken, I'm wondering how much they intend on fixing this portion. | 21:57 |
BUGabundo | when does one know DD has come to an end of the device? | 21:58 |
BUGabundo | dmesg shows nothing | 21:58 |
maurer_ | dd stops when it hits the end of the device. | 21:59 |
BUGabundo | no it doesn't | 21:59 |
BUGabundo | lol | 21:59 |
BUGabundo | no on emmc | 21:59 |
maurer_ | emmc? | 21:59 |
maurer_ | I could have sworn I'd done dd if=/dev/foo of=backuplocation and had it terminate | 22:00 |
patdk-wk | fixed, going gigabit again | 22:01 |
patdk-wk | stupid ups network surge protector, limited it to 100mbit | 22:01 |
Ian_Corne | ah :p | 22:02 |
Ian_Corne | maurer_: what is broken? | 22:02 |
patdk-wk | :( getting 24MB now, instead of 7.8MB | 22:02 |
BUGabundo | sorry | 22:06 |
BUGabundo | what were you saying? | 22:06 |
BUGabundo | laptop froze once I pluged power cord | 22:06 |
BUGabundo | :( | 22:06 |
BUGabundo | maurer_: I _was_ running # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0p1 ibs=100M | 22:06 |
BUGabundo | patdk-wk: you do know that spends more energy, right? | 22:06 |
patdk-wk | spends more energy? | 22:07 |
patdk-wk | what spends? | 22:07 |
Ian_Corne | gigabit | 22:07 |
patdk-wk | don't care | 22:08 |
patdk-wk | the brownouts spend more energy | 22:08 |
* patdk-wk wonders what costs more, me watching this take 30min to transfer, or me watching this take 90min to transfer | 22:09 | |
BUGabundo | lol | 22:09 |
maurer_ | Ian_Corne: Alt-tab is the biggest thing (crashes compiz) | 22:15 |
maurer_ | Ian_Corne: Next on the list is that right clicking on widgets in gnome-panel no longer gives the secondary menu (i.e. I can't turn off NetworkManager via the gui anymore) | 22:16 |
maurer_ | Ian_Corne: Finally, there's a bunch of generalized degradation in rendering of stuff related to gnome (gradients not ending on menu item boundaries, animated panel icons not working) | 22:16 |
Ian_Corne | maurer_: 2 is because nm-applet is now an indicator | 22:29 |
Ian_Corne | and you should be able to turn of network via left click | 22:29 |
Ian_Corne | I can | 22:29 |
Ian_Corne | and I don't use compiz on classic | 22:29 |
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