[00:33] hey all [01:58] ughh can't htink of a domain name [01:59] I lost the right click on firefox behaivor, is it normal? [07:05] update manager doesn't use app indicator ? === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === daubers_ is now known as daubers === evilvish is now known as group === group is now known as evilvish === evilvish is now known as whois === whois is now known as vish === duanedes1gn is now known as duanedesign [12:07] ??daily [12:07] !daily [12:07] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [12:43] natty supports ps3 now? [12:45] wzssyqa, supports in what way [12:46] bazhang: no idea, but there are alternative iso in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:46] powerpc+ps3 [12:47] wzssyqa, I guess for those who have not updated firmware to eliminate "other OS" then [12:47] bazhang: maybe, [12:48] now days ,with cuda ,opencl etc, the ps3 has not be so amaizing [12:49] wzssyqa, not sure there, sorry, first I've seen/heard of it [12:53] i would think by the time of release it should support ps3 but i got rid of my ps3 so not 100% sure [12:55] preffered applications needs to be fixed still :( === jussi01 is now known as jussi [13:05] how much space would be needed to install natty? would 11GB suffice? [13:06] certainly, the base system only needs ~2GB [13:07] yofel, thanks! i plan to install some apps and try to find/fix bugs if possible. [13:11] finding bugs will be easy [13:11] iirc the ps3 builds were stopped. I thought I saw an email about that. [13:13] wzssyqa, gnomefreak: You may want to take a look at this for ps3 related information; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-December/000797.html [13:13] j #ubuntu-offtopic [13:13] oops [13:14] gnomefreak, sorry router got reset. [13:14] i hope to fix some as well; not just find :) [13:17] i cant usemy browser ye, updates keep causing it to stop loading pages [13:17] thats what i get for not turning on pc in weeks/month [13:19] be back in about an hour while updates finish [14:59] i lost my terminal menus :/ [14:59] oh i see [15:00] thats kid of an odd place to put them [15:00] s/kid/kind [15:03] gnomefreak: global menu confusion? [15:04] yeah [15:05] why does the top panel only hold 1 app at a time. i have to use ctrl+alt+tab to change apps [15:05] * Pici shrugs, hasn't upgraded yet [15:06] can you work on few apps in the same time ? [15:06] you can but top panel only holds one app at a time. it isnt an easy point and click to change app views [15:08] example i have terminal and browser open. terminal is on top panel atm. the browser doesnt show until i use ctrl+alt+tab [15:09] and my weather applet is gone [15:09] seems i cant add it either [15:11] looks great just not practical for end user [15:14] ok so how do i turn off compiz. change background menu doesnt have it and i dont have any menu items (applications,admin,system) [15:15] Try using "classic desktop" session at login? I don't think that has to have compiz enabled [15:16] still doesnt fix the problems with menu i dont think but be back in a few ill try it === knitt1 is now known as knittl [15:24] ok clasic looks normal, however in the apperance dialog still doesnt give me a tab for visual(compiz menu) [15:29] * gnomefreak smoke,think [15:33] ah bugger, another month and a half until 11.04 alpha 2 [15:34] tried Unity yesterday, I am somehow disappointed [15:35] I just played for a few minutes, but apart from the sidebar launcher which is not novell what does it bring ? [15:36] global context menu bar [15:39] sagaci: define that please. other than the side bar there is no system,appl,places menus ect.. [15:40] 1 app in task bar at a time as well [15:40] * gnomefreak in classic atm [15:43] dont feel bad i cant even use the 2.6.37-10 kernel [15:45] is nvidia-current-modaliases needed? [15:45] that package has been deprecated [15:45] bjsnider: thanks [15:46] maybe the kernel will get past plymouth now [16:14] * gnomefreak back to looking for a menu [16:32] it seems unity is only partially implemented from what http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1#Ubuntu%20Desktop%20Edition says [17:23] anyone having issue with the main menu button bring up a folder with the links to apps / other stuff? [17:24] also issue with telepathy chat window not allowing more then one line of information and not showing user list? on right of chat window? [17:25] and as type window gets bigger instead of the input feild getting bigger? [17:26] isn't the main menu expect to bring the apps folder ? isn't that a design decision :P ? [17:30] joaopinto I don't think so [17:31] its suppose to be a nice dark user interface with a search feild at the top [17:32] Spirits-Sight: nope that is in UNE [17:32] in Unity Desktop it brings up the applications folder [17:33] I prefer the UNE way. sleeker. [17:34] but UDE and UNE are going to become one I read somewhere [17:34] after a few minutes testing the only thing I like from unity is the global menu [17:35] globa menu is the one button right? [17:35] the global menu makes it easier for my parents to locate things :D [17:36] is the menu on the top bar [17:36] for all apps [17:36] instead of the menu over the window [17:37] so this is not in UDE yet ? becaue it brings up the folder instead [17:38] I like UDE I like having the bar on the left side, I wish it had when bring mouse over / click show the windows open for that app [17:38] Spirits-Sight, I am talking about the menu you see on every application, not about the "Applications" menu [17:39] the menu is now shown on the top bar [17:39] oo yes sorry got it now :-) mind slow : -) did not know that was the name of that, I like that alot :-) [17:39] of the display, not of the window [17:39] :) [17:40] I wish that was already across the board but I know its being developed :-) [17:40] are u having any issue with the chat client (default) [17:40] I don't use empathy [17:41] and I am not yet using natty, the installer is falling on me :\ [17:41] oo sorry to hear that :( [17:41] what u use for chat client? [17:42] does it interface into the system like empathy? [17:44] brb restart system :-) hopefully some things are fixed [17:53] ok I am back, did u see my question? [17:54] anyone having issue with empathy window (chat) getting bigger as you type instead of the field getting taller [17:55] also I get the issue of: No system tray detected on this system. Unable to start, exiting. ??? === tlyu_ is now known as tlyu === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [18:32] Hello. How can I get the Broadcom 94318MPG wireles card working under Natty? [18:33] Adys, know Nysile? === fusion45 is now known as fusion44 === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [20:01] ughh natty command line virtualbox guest boots to black screen trying to trouble shoot [20:03] is it working again in natty? [20:13] histo: might be bug 691555 [20:14] Launchpad bug 691555 in linux (Ubuntu) "VirtualBox not compatible with CONFIG_DEBUG_SET_MODULE_RONX [STAGING]" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691555 [20:32] charlie-tca: yeap === zehrique_ is now known as zehrique [21:14] o/ [21:16] o/ [21:17] * charlie-tca waves [21:18] don't you love when you set the CPU to powersave and it auto sets to ondemand? [21:18] at least it's a little better then setting performance on boot and no throttling back [21:23] # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0p1 ibs=100M [21:24] BUGabundo: Why would you use powersave? It doesn't do what the name implies [21:25] Amaranth: I know very well [21:25] I've been reading on cpu gobernors for years [21:25] I know who it works [21:25] Personally I think they should just have ondemand and performance, not sure why they keep the others around [21:26] but this laptop BURNs a bit, and has little battery, and I'm bare naked legs [21:26] Ah, you're using it as thermal management [21:26] I do miss Interactive... I have that on android [21:26] I wish we had a separate knob for that [21:26] and you can notice the difference to ondemand [21:26] My palm pre has screenstate, useful in that specific device [21:27] I'm guessing interactive is similar [21:28] Amaranth: interactive ramps up away faster, dropping right after that [21:28] awesome for user interaction [21:28] ah, screenstate just ramps from min to max speed depending on if the screen is on [21:29] Unless you've got it plugged in, then it runs low speed because charging plus overclocking = overheating [21:30] I OC my android HTC Desire HD 50% [21:30] from 1GHz to 1.5 [21:30] stable with no temp change :D [21:36] In classic desktop mode, alt-tab will occasionally crash compiz. Is this a known issue? Is there a workaround? [21:36] lucky you [21:36] I can't even get compiz to start [21:36] (the workaround I've been using is to switch to a VT and restart it with DISPLAY=:0 compiz, but this is super awkward. [21:36] and Amaranth went underground now :P [21:37] Ian_Corne: http://android-pt.com/android-gingerbread-231-on-desirehd [21:38] yeh yeh, I'm stuck with my milestone [21:38] :p [21:38] had to reset it today, I wasn't getting any msgs for about a month now [21:38] and email stopped working too [21:39] lol [21:39] what rom? [21:40] default! [21:40] people run stock? [21:40] eewwww [21:40] put CM on that baby [21:40] 2.2.1 [21:42] People use stock? [21:44] some do [21:44] don't know why [21:44] but hey, they are free to do so [21:44] hm, If I can't get xubuntu to install from the daily images, how am I going to break it? [21:44] one of the admins of our android site, has a Nexus One, unrooted and stock [21:47] BUGabundo: milestone is different :( [21:48] so what? [21:48] want a link? or you know google? [21:48] even milestone is rootable [21:48] has been for months [21:48] Rootable doesn't mean it's flashable [21:48] my droid2 is rootable and flashable [21:48] as soon as a rootkit came out for it, mine was done [21:49] so much better battery life now [21:49] http://android.doshaska.net/cm6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784750 [21:49] droid is different then milestone [21:49] good bye Ian_Corne. see you tomorrow :p [21:50] I'm not doing that now :p [21:50] DO IT [21:50] [12 dec 2010]CyanogenMod 6.1 for Milestone (2.2.1) [21:52] I'll do it friday [21:52] that way you can't talk to family for christmas? [21:52] enouth offtopic :P [21:52] everyone move to #android-root or #cyanogenmod [21:53] where is my natty-rom? [21:54] :D [21:54] ?daily [21:54] booh [21:54] I don't thnk it would boot on my phone :) [21:54] Probably not :p [21:55] humm [21:55] I have yet to put ubuntu on one of my androids [21:55] toooo lazy for it [21:55] and too useles? :p [21:55] man, why is my computer going 100mbit again :( [21:56] aha, I've had reports of that too [21:56] And I've had it myself too [21:57] Out of curiosity, do people know whether ubuntu is considering "Classic" mode a critical feature for natty's release? Given how long so much has been broken, I'm wondering how much they intend on fixing this portion. [21:58] when does one know DD has come to an end of the device? [21:58] dmesg shows nothing [21:59] dd stops when it hits the end of the device. [21:59] no it doesn't [21:59] lol [21:59] no on emmc [21:59] emmc? [22:00] I could have sworn I'd done dd if=/dev/foo of=backuplocation and had it terminate [22:01] fixed, going gigabit again [22:01] stupid ups network surge protector, limited it to 100mbit [22:02] ah :p [22:02] maurer_: what is broken? [22:02] :( getting 24MB now, instead of 7.8MB [22:06] sorry [22:06] what were you saying? [22:06] laptop froze once I pluged power cord [22:06] :( [22:06] maurer_: I _was_ running # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0p1 ibs=100M [22:06] patdk-wk: you do know that spends more energy, right? [22:07] spends more energy? [22:07] what spends? [22:07] gigabit [22:08] don't care [22:08] the brownouts spend more energy [22:09] * patdk-wk wonders what costs more, me watching this take 30min to transfer, or me watching this take 90min to transfer [22:09] lol [22:15] Ian_Corne: Alt-tab is the biggest thing (crashes compiz) [22:16] Ian_Corne: Next on the list is that right clicking on widgets in gnome-panel no longer gives the secondary menu (i.e. I can't turn off NetworkManager via the gui anymore) [22:16] Ian_Corne: Finally, there's a bunch of generalized degradation in rendering of stuff related to gnome (gradients not ending on menu item boundaries, animated panel icons not working) [22:29] maurer_: 2 is because nm-applet is now an indicator [22:29] and you should be able to turn of network via left click [22:29] I can [22:29] and I don't use compiz on classic