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robert_ancellRiddell, ping03:12
robert_ancell(or any other Kubuntu dev)03:12
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rodrigo_morning08:07
rodrigo_hmm, ssh-agent is broken for me, I guess I need an update08:39
xclaesseHm, natty never remove the message "To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>"."08:51
rodrigo_brb10:27
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rodrigo_anyone knows what's wrong with ssh-agent? It never asks me for a password when using bzr, git, rsync, etc10:42
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rodrigo_ugh, system quite broken after last upgrade :(11:10
rodrigo_hey pedro_11:10
pedro_hello rodrigo_11:11
rodrigo_pedro_, not taking holidays?11:11
pedro_rodrigo_, i'm taking some starting the next friday (24) until next year11:12
pedro_rodrigo_, you're on holidays right?11:12
rodrigo_pedro_, ah, cool :-)11:12
rodrigo_pedro_, was last week, back to work this week11:12
rodrigo_and off next week again :)11:12
pedro_cool!11:12
rodrigo_pedro_, are you using latest natty updates?11:13
pedro_rodrigo_, haven't updated my machine today yet, anything broken?11:15
rodrigo_pedro_, lots, that's why I ask, wanted to know if you had the same problems11:15
rodrigo_ssh-agent is the worst one11:15
pedro_ok let me update to check11:15
rodrigo_have to mow to a vt to use bzr, git, rsync, etc11:16
rodrigo_move, not mow11:16
rodrigo_ugh, and now umount for a drive I mounted by hand is taking ages11:18
pedro_rodrigo_, just updated and everything works fine here11:25
rodrigo_hmm11:25
rodrigo_I guess it's something with the GNOME3 PPA then11:26
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cyphermoxgood morning!12:23
rodrigo_hi cyphermox13:00
cyphermoxhey rodrigo_!13:03
xclaessecyphermox, hello... any progress with nm-applet crash?13:20
udienzHello Ubuntu-Desktop Team13:52
udienzi need your help for my merge proposal13:52
udienzhttps://code.launchpad.net/~udienz/ubuntu/maverick/light-themes/light-themes.fix549365/+merge/4284013:52
udienzdholbach recommended me to ask at here13:53
udienzbug 54936513:59
ubot2Launchpad bug 549365 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Terminals have a translucent background (affects: 3) (heat: 29)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54936513:59
udienzthanks before13:59
charlie-tcabryceh: Is bugbot your script?14:33
cyphermoxxclaesse, yep, I'll upload the update in a minute14:34
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cyphermoxxclaesse, it's uploaded now. just give it time to build, and it should be fixed (here it works, no more crash with my 3g dongle)14:41
momelodgreetings channel.  I've broken my power management on my latop after upgrade to 10.10.  basically i cannot run gnome-power-manager.  When i do, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/hYRuMB7Q14:41
momelodi can no longer sleep or hibernate (unless i manually run `/etc/acpi/sleep.sh`)14:41
momelodbut the option to sleep, hibernate are missing from my logout menu14:41
momelodand, there is no battery monitoring happening either, so my laptop will drain the battery completely unless im there to power off beforehand.14:41
rodrigo_kklimonda, ping14:48
cyphermoxmomelod, you should ask about this in #ubuntu, this is a channel for Ubuntu development. you may want to reinstall upower to fix this, but I'm just taking a wild guess there ;)14:56
momelodthanks.. tried re-installing upower..14:57
momelodno luck14:57
momelodbut thanks14:57
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mvotremolux: hey, I merged the inline-purchase branch, nice work :) if you could update trunk so that the experimental-faststart one merges, that would be nice15:18
tremoluxthanks mvo!  will do15:18
kklimondarodrigo_: pong15:19
mvothanks tremolux15:19
joaopintowhich package should I use to file a bug for the global menu ?15:21
rodrigo_joaopinto, libdbusmenu-gtk15:43
rodrigo_kklimonda, I don't remember what I wanted to tell you :-)15:43
joaopintorodrigo_, I was told to use appmenu-gtk15:44
rodrigo_ah, that might be it15:44
kklimondarodrigo_: if it was about couchdb-glib it's still on my list - I was just busy with more urgent stuff like work :). I'm planning on getting back to it after christmas.15:45
rodrigo_kklimonda, no hurries, don't worry15:46
dobeykenvandine: can you sponsor https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/natty/rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store/use-defer/+merge/44358 ? :)15:46
kenvandinesure15:46
* pitti waves15:48
dobeythakns15:48
dobeyhey pitti15:48
pittihey dobey, how are you?15:48
dobeyalright. yourself?15:49
pittipretty well, thanks! enjoying my holidays15:50
kenvandinehey pitti15:52
dobeynice15:54
kenvandinedobey, you should have changed the dist to natty while touching the aptdaemon stuff in the music store15:54
kenvandinedist="maverick"15:55
kenvandineand15:55
kenvandinePARTNER_LIST = "canonical-partner-maverick.list"15:55
dobeyhrmm15:57
kenvandinemakes me wonder how banshee handles installing the codec15:58
dobeyi don't think it does yet15:58
kenvandinei am pretty sure there is some mechanism, but i bet it isn't via the partner repo15:58
dobeyi didn't realize it hardcoded that15:59
kenvandinedobey, kind of fragile huh ? :)15:59
kenvandinei bet there is a better way15:59
kenvandinelsb_release or something15:59
dobeyyes15:59
kenvandinewould be better to grab that from /etc/lsb-release then16:00
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dobeypreacher.preach(choir)16:01
dobeywould be better to abstract that more16:01
dobeyso that the right thing can be done on !ubuntu16:02
kenvandinewant to fix that before i sponsor this?16:03
kenvandineor should i do a quick s/maverick/natty/ and sponsor?16:04
kenvandinedobey, ^^16:05
dobeykenvandine: i'll file a bug; do a quick s/maverick/natty/ for now16:05
kenvandinewill do16:06
kenvandinethx16:06
dobeyi'm surprised nobody has complained about this yet. we build nightlies on lucid, maverick, and natty16:07
kenvandineweird16:08
kenvandinedobey, nobody complained because it only matters on new installs16:26
* gnomefreak cant find menus at all 16:27
kenvandinejasoncwarner, meeting?16:30
jasoncwarnerkenvandine:16:30
* kenvandine wonders if it will be just you and i :)16:30
jasoncwarner:)16:30
pittihey jasoncwarner16:30
kenvandineand pitti16:31
kenvandine:)16:31
pittiI'm at home, so I can as well join :)16:31
jasoncwarnerpitti: morning :)16:31
jasoncwarnerAlright...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-12-21/16:31
tremoluxhiya  everyone  \o16:32
jasoncwarnerrodrigo_: Riddell: cyphermox: tremolux: mterry: meeting time...16:32
rodrigo_hey kenvandine16:32
kenvandinehey rodrigo_16:32
jasoncwarnerAnyone else around?16:33
Riddellhi16:33
jasoncwarnerFirst things, please be sure to update the above link with any interesting items for the week.16:33
jasoncwarnerI don't think we had any actions from last week so we can dive right in to16:34
jasoncwarner[TOPIC] Unity16:34
kenvandineno didrocks :)16:35
jasoncwarnerwithout seb or didrocks, not sure what kind of update we can give. Anyone?16:35
rodrigo_:)16:35
kenvandinenope...16:35
jasoncwarner[TOPIC] Software Center16:35
mterryhi16:36
tremoluxsummary is posted on the meeting wiki16:36
tremolux:)16:36
tremolux(unless you want me to paste here -- but I think we stopped doing that)16:36
jasoncwarnertremolux: works for me16:36
jasoncwarner[TOPIC] Kubuntu16:37
Riddell * KDE built on ARM and PowerPC in natty16:37
Riddell * KDE SC 4.4.5 in lucid-proposed for testing16:37
Riddell * KDevelop Beta in16:37
Riddell * 4.6 release candidate due today to packagers16:37
Riddell * Akonadi beta packaged16:37
jasoncwarnerThanks, Riddell. Anything you wanted to add?16:38
Riddellnope16:38
jasoncwarnerif not, I didn't see it on the template but16:38
jasoncwarner[TOPIC] Partner update?16:38
kenvandinenothing... nobody was around for the meeting16:39
jasoncwarner:)16:39
jasoncwarnerone of those weeks....16:39
jasoncwarnerX.org is later today16:40
jasoncwarner[TOPIC] Tools and Processes16:40
jasoncwarnerAnyone have anything for tools and processes updates?16:41
jasoncwarner:)16:42
jasoncwarner[TOPIC] AOB?16:42
jasoncwarnershortest.meeting.evar!16:42
kenvandineyeah :)16:43
pitti:)16:43
jasoncwarner[END MEETING]16:43
jasoncwarnerWell then!16:43
rodrigo_:)16:43
jasoncwarnerdon't forget to update the weekly summary16:43
jasoncwarnerthat is it! Thanks everyone.16:43
tremoluxwoo!  thanks everybody16:44
kenvandine:)16:44
kenvandinehappy holidays to everyone16:44
mterry:)16:44
cyphermoxhappy holidays ;)16:44
pittihappy holidays and merry christmas everyone!16:45
cyphermoxkenvandine, know anything about the unity cmake process?16:45
cyphermoxI just found out there is an issue... here I get some weird behavior just for compiz files in bzr bd; it tries to install /16:45
cyphermoxd'oh16:46
cyphermoxtries to install /home/mtrudel/Projects/build-area/unity.../debian/tmp/home/mtrudel/Projects/build-area ... ;)16:46
AmaranthIt did that to seb128 too16:47
cyphermoxhrm.16:47
Amaranthit doesn't do it on the actual buildds though16:47
Amaranthhe hacked around it for a local build, we couldn't figure it out16:48
cyphermoxit's most likely something specific to building with bzr bd16:48
cyphermoxheh, pbuilder it is then16:48
kenvandinehumm16:48
kenvandinecyphermox, no... sorry :)16:48
cyphermox;)16:48
cyphermoxthanks :)16:48
* pitti goes back to holiday mode; see you everyone!17:03
dobeykenvandine: well, it only matters when the music store is first used. that may not be the same time as install17:40
kenvandineyeah17:43
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ari-tczewcould someone tell me why I should merge on lp:~ubuntu-desktop/farsight/ubuntu instead on default bzr branch for natty?18:17
ari-tczewaccording to Robert's comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/ubuntu/natty/farsight2/lp-690736/+merge/4380018:17
micahgari-tczew: well, it's where the VCS headers point, but it's out of date :-/18:19
ari-tczewmicahg: Agreed. This branch seems to be another than Ubuntu source.18:20
micahgari-tczew: Robert might be on in about 3-4 hours if he's not on vacation yet18:20
ari-tczewmicahg: Do you think that leave a MemoMsg is a good option?18:22
ari-tczewI'm not sure whether 3-4 hours I'll be in bed.18:22
micahgari-tczew: if you won't be on then, sure18:22
brycehcharlie-tca, yes18:24
charlie-tcagreat! It doesn't change the status when it leaves a comment that the bug is being close18:25
brycehcharlie-tca, hrm18:26
charlie-tcabryceh: I like what bugbot does, but I think it should change status to invalid when it says the bugs are closed18:26
brycehcharlie-tca, I noticed that but thought I fixed it.  Was this a recent change (within the last week?)18:26
charlie-tca17th18:26
brycehcharlie-tca, yeah it's actually supposed to set to Expired18:26
charlie-tcaThe bug I caught today was commented 12-17, so maybe it is fixed, then. I will keep my eye open for later than that changes18:27
charlie-tcado you want the status changed on the bugs I come across?18:27
brycehyeah it runs once a week18:27
brycehI'll disable it until I get a chance to figure out why it's busted18:28
charlie-tcaThanks18:28
brycehcharlie-tca, yeah if you could update those statuses, that'd be a huge help18:28
charlie-tcaI can do that. Just wanted to make sure I was doing something right.18:28
charlie-tcabryceh: latest one I came across was bug 65940518:30
ubot2Launchpad bug 659405 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Xorg crashes on suspend (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65940518:30
ari-tczewmicahg: even so, I can't merge it with ubuntu-desktop branch. reason: This branch is not mergeable into lp:~ubuntu-desktop/farsight/ubuntu.18:36
kamusinjust for curiosity, will be gnome-system-tools included in ubuntu natty?18:38
kklimondaari-tczew: you can't merge it into ~ubuntu-desktop branch as those track only packaging.18:38
ari-tczewkklimonda: heh, Robert could inform me instead requiring merge.18:39
kklimondaari-tczew: you should branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/farsight/ubuntu locally, add your changes, and then push and request a merge.18:39
kamusinthere isn't a 'user' way to sync date/time with a ntp server under natty or I am too blind ...18:40
ari-tczewkklimonda: I'll try, but I remmeber that 6 days ago I couldn't do anything on this branch. Dunno why. Odd data.18:40
mterrykamusin, go to your clock and click on Time & Date Settings19:11
mterrykamusin, but that's a better question for #ubuntu which is the support channel19:12
dobeywhat is it that keeps screwing up my compiz settings every time i upgrade compiz?19:13
ari-tczewbzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~ari-tczew/ubuntu-desktop/farsight/ubuntu/lp-690736": No such project: ubuntu-desktop19:27
ari-tczewhow can I create a branch related to lp:~ubuntu-desktop/farsight/ubuntu ?19:27
ari-tczewhmmm, I tried another way19:28
ari-tczewbzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "~ari-tczew/farsight/ubuntu/lp-690736/": : Cannot create branch at '/~ari-tczew/farsight/ubuntu/lp-69073619:28
ari-tczewcould anyone help me?19:29
ari-tczewkklimonda: maybe you? ^^19:31
kenvandinemterry, ping19:31
mterrykenvandine, hi19:31
kklimondaari-tczew: have you tried lp:~ari-tczew/ubuntu/farsight/lp-690736/ ?19:31
kenvandinemterry, do you have a general idea of the status of the gir transistion?19:31
mterrykenvandine, mostly done19:32
mterry:)19:32
kklimondaari-tczew: or lp:~ari-tczew/farsight/lp-69073619:32
kenvandinemterry, doko wants someone to email ubuntu-devel with a status and a brief note on what people should do if they run into a package that hasn't been fixed19:32
cyphermoxari-tczew, non-related, could you please take another look at my cnetworkmanager merge request?19:33
kenvandinemterry, think you can do that?19:33
mterrykenvandine, yeah, sure19:35
kenvandinethx19:35
kenvandinei've been fixing what i see19:35
dobeyari-tczew: lp:~owner/distro/series/sourcepackage/branchname19:36
ari-tczewdobey: you're wrong. We've discuss about this above. It's branch unrelated to Ubuntu. Just ubuntu-desktop stuff.20:10
dobeyari-tczew: ubuntu-desktop is just a team. the branches are just the packaging branches where changes are staged for going into ubuntu itself.20:12
ari-tczewdobey: Robert Ancell asked me to merge into ubuntu-desktop/farsight instead Ubuntu packaging.20:14
ari-tczewcyphermox: I can.20:16
ari-tczewkklimonda: thanks! your advice was helpful.20:16
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cyphermoxthx20:18
gesermterry: re gir ABI chnage: did the directory for .gir files also change?20:32
kklimondageser: no :)20:32
mterrygeser, no20:33
mterrywhoops, too slow  :)20:33
geserso gir1.2-* packages install in /usr/share/gir-1.0/?20:33
mterrygeser, yup, it's a bit of a mess20:34
mterrygeser, the file itself says what abi it is20:34
kklimondageser: yes - that's how upstream have decided to do that.20:34
mterryas a field in the xml20:34
jasoncwarnerbryceh:  and robert_ancell:, you guys ready for meeting? :) should be really quick22:01
jasoncwarnerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-12-2122:01
RAOFHowdie hi :)22:01
jasoncwarnerRAOF: hey!22:01
robert_ancellyup22:01
robert_ancellquick western meeting..22:03
* bryce_ waves22:03
bryce_I think RAOF's out this week22:03
RAOFAm I?22:03
bryce_RAOF, or not22:03
bryce_RAOF, thought you took the rest of the year off?22:04
RAOFI got a bit confused by canonicaladmin; it's possible that I'm on holiday for the last 3 days.22:04
RAOFbryce_: No, just the start of last week.22:04
jasoncwarnerRAOF: I think so ;)22:05
jasoncwarnerI think you are ;)22:05
jasoncwarnerok...getting going...22:05
jasoncwarner[TOPIC] X.org update22:05
RAOFA bunch of patches have finally landed upstream!  Yay!22:06
RAOFA bunch of our patches, though, so it's not very interesting for the non-X people :)22:06
bryce_I did some updates to the X apport scripts.  Also not very interesting for the non-X people.  But will cut down on stray error messages in bug reports and generally clean stuff up.22:07
bryce_also, I'm chatting with the compiz folks about possibly merging the X and compiz apport scripts22:07
bryce_the scripts are already 90% the same stuff anyway, and we are always bouncing bugs back and forth between compiz / mesa / etc. so it makes sense22:08
bryce_my thinking is that this may make diagnosing unity X-ish bugs a tad easier22:09
jasoncwarnerok....22:09
jasoncwarnerAnything else for X.org?22:09
jasoncwarnernothing else?22:10
RAOFOh.  Kubuntu users who find that X crashes when logging out have some testing packages.22:10
jasoncwarner[TOPIC] aOB?22:10
bryce_canonicaladmin is *painfully* slow22:10
bryce_everyone must be checking their xmas holidays at the same time ;-)22:10
jasoncwarnerbryce_ agreed22:11
bryce_we could probably code a replacement in the time it takes to wait for it to refresh ;-)22:11
bryce_nothing else from me; been a really short week for me due to sick + vacation time22:12
RAOFNothing else here, either.22:13
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jasoncwarnerwell then22:14
jasoncwarnerI htink22:14
jasoncwarner[END MEETING]22:14
jasoncwarner!22:14
jasoncwarner:)22:14
bryce_thanks22:14
jasoncwarnernext meeting is in january !22:14
jasoncwarnerenjoy holidays!!!!22:14
RAOFWhile I'm here with a small captive audience, how useful would other people find a Do plugin that indexes your gnome-keyring and lets you copy passwords to the clipboard?22:15
cyphermoxRAOF, ah, cool idea22:21
RAOFWell, there's one other person who'd like it.  I guess I'll release it with the rest of do-plugins then :)22:25
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ari-tczewrobert_ancell: around?23:54
robert_ancellari-tczew, yup23:55
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: I proposed new merge to ~ubuntu-desktop/farsight/ubuntu23:55
robert_ancellari-tczew, thanks for that23:56
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: when do you going for holiday?23:56
robert_ancell24th23:56
robert_ancellback on the 3rd23:57
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: I hope that I'll prepare some merges to sponsor by you tomorrow.23:58
robert_ancellari-tczew, awesome.  btw, if you subscribe ubuntu-desktop to do the merges they show up on http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/versions.html (I'll probably end up doing them anyway)23:59

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