[00:49] Needs to be fixed first. [00:53] kipi-plugins and digikam updated in Debian Experimental. [00:53] Having a look. [00:54] apachelogger: Skype session coming up [00:54] get headset and cocaine and booze ready, as usual [02:59] anyone alive? [03:05] apachelogger: No. [03:05] nigelb: wanna sype with markey and me? [03:06] apachelogger: sype? [03:06] www.skype.com :P [03:09] no [03:10] jjesse: dont wanna join? [03:10] haha [03:10] just lagged [03:10] was responding to the no no one was alive [03:10] wish i had time, busy w/ work projects [03:10] cram time before end of year [03:12] * nigelb has to get to work :( [03:14] poor fellas you are [03:14] :( [03:41] Kipi Plugins uploaded. [05:31] digikam uploaded too. [05:31] Someone might want to put them in the backports PPA. === hunger_ is now known as hunger [09:24] good morning Kubuntu! [09:26] winter greetings, Riddell [09:27] Happy holidays(if you have any) [09:28] hi skfin [09:29] Hey valorie [09:38] thanks for doing digikam/kipi ScottK [09:57] ScottK: I found out I have a T02!. and it now runs maverick :) [09:57] jussi: what's one of them? [09:57] * Riddell compiles the new kdepim beta [09:57] Riddell: its the efika arm machine [09:58] Riddell: the previous hw revision to current - I thought it was even older than that [10:00] and you just had one lying around without knowing it? [10:01] Riddell: no, I had the impression it wasnt a t02, but older. [10:04] oh, kdepim beta needs kdepimlibs rc which dirk hasn't got round to tagging === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Xmas party on Thursday | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Please test KDE in lucid-proposed LP: #691068 | Congratulations rbelem [10:27] I used to be able to cd ~ && cp ../steph to get stephen autocompleted. Was that deliberately removed for 10.10 ? [10:28] Now I have to finish writing stephen myself before I can autocomplete subdirectories [10:30] I doubt anything any deliberately removed, it could be a regression in bash [10:30] or in bash-completion [10:33] Ok [10:37] bug 693331 [10:37] Launchpad bug 693331 in bash-completion (Ubuntu) "Regression: Can't complete users names anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693331 [10:53] bash-completion has always been patchy for me [10:53] sometimes works, sometimes doesn't [11:24] oggy oggy oggy [12:03] the kdepim packages are still held back here, anything I should do to get them in? (Maverick, 4.6. beta 2) [12:03] Mamarok: pim 4.4 or 4.6? [12:04] 4.4 of course [12:04] held back when you do what? [12:04] update [12:06] it apparently waits for 4:4.8-0ubuntu2~maverick1~ppa3 packages [12:06] to be installed, but only ~ppa2 are available [12:11] ok I'll look into that [12:11] yofel mentioned it before [12:15] * Riddell spots http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.5.90/ === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:29] Riddell: No problem. Since it was in Debian, it was ~easy. [14:30] jussi: Congratulations. [14:30] Riddell: Based on what's been said on the packager's list, I think kdepim 4.4.9 will work with the new akonadi. [14:31] (of course we don't have 4.4.9 yet either) [14:35] ScottK: yeah, the crash I had yesterday has been fixed in svn and as far as I can tell svn 4.4 branch version is all good now === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Xmas party on Thursday | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Please test KDE in lucid-proposed LP: #691068 | Ninjas packaging RC 1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [14:36] !ninjas [14:36] Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger [14:36] ooh it worked [14:36] if somewhat out of date [14:37] Is that for the RC? [14:37] Should probably ping at shadeslayer even though he'll claim he's busy with exams, as usual. [14:38] he might fail his exams get kicked out of university and lose his internet connection, then we'd be sorry [14:40] More likely get held back a semester so he stays a student even longer before he gets sucked up by some job and forgets about us. [14:44] lol ^^ [14:44] steveire: What architecture are you running? If you have a few moments, I'd be glad to give you step by step instructions for downgrading CMake to test the SRU. [14:44] ScottK: im not looking to do a job in the near future, more studies!!! [14:44] shadeslayer: So packaging instead of studying for exams helps your goals too. [14:45] well ... no .. i have to pass my B.Tech to do a MS [14:46] The sooner you pass, the sooner you're out of school. [14:47] the sooner i pass, the sooner i get into another school ;) [14:48] im not getting into a full time job for another 3 years atleast [14:49] Right. Without studying you could make it four easily. [14:49] i crammed 4 years into 5 years in college [14:49] was difficult but i did it [14:50] jjesse: You use dropbox, don't you? [14:50] yes [14:50] love it [14:51] jjesse: What would you think of http://trichard-kde.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-dropbox-integration-for.html [14:51] ScottK: I currently hate my uni.. they all pro ms supporters... no foss stuff whatsoever... I just want to get out of here :-P [14:51] that would be cool [14:51] droidslayer: Just remember they are all dinosaurs walking around dead, but they don't know it. [14:52] jjesse: If I package it, would you test it? [14:52] yes sir, natty or maverick? [14:52] Ooh dropbox plugin [14:52] jjesse: Whatever you've got. [14:52] got vms of both [14:52] OK. We'll want to test both. [14:52] I didn't sign up for it because there was no dolphin support B-) [14:52] :-P [14:53] droidslayer: currently you still need or the nautilus plugin or kfilebox to download the dropbox daemon [14:54] trichard: ohhh... no standalone stuff? [14:54] btw, the 64 bit package from the blogpost was built with Kubuntu 10.10 [14:54] :-(... its a improvement atleast [14:55] droidslayer: no, this plugin just shows the sync status and custom context menus [14:55] Ohk. . [14:55] New bluedevil. [14:55] if the demand is high i could actually integrate kfilebox in the plugin [14:55] trichard: thanks tho... [14:55] * ScottK doing [14:55] E: pycompile:240: Requested versions are not installed [14:55] Maybe make it a gsoc project? [14:55] is there a solution to that? [14:56] :-P [14:56] upgrading to natty not so great [14:56] trichard: Would you be interested in making an official Kubuntu package of it (I'd mentor you)? [14:56] Riddell: welcome to the group... [14:56] ScottK: That sounds good :) [14:56] Riddell: Were you up to date from maverick-updates before you upgraded? [14:56] I'm currently Stuck between upgrades [14:56] trichard: OK. [14:57] Riddell i did a dist upgrade from maverick to natty in my VM w/o problems yesterday [14:57] trichard: Obviously you know something about packaging since you made a .deb. Can you publish the source package you used somewhere so I can review it? REVU is a great place for this. [14:58] ScottK: Apachelogger helped me a bit yesterday :) [14:58] Ah. [14:58] Excellent. [14:58] I'm sure it's all wrong and will have to be redone then. [14:58] ;-) [14:58] Lol [14:58] haha :) [14:58] Riddell: Manually install python2.7-minimal and python2.7. [14:59] ScottK: probably not, these are new ec2 instances [14:59] trichard: In any case, point me at the source package and I'll have a look. [14:59] Riddell: You need to be up to date on maverick before upgrading to Natty or it will fail in the way you saw. [14:59] ok thanks [14:59] ScottK: that stuff sits on my desktop. I'm currently at school. Will do it in a few hours. Ok? [15:00] trichard: Sure. [15:05] ScottK: x86 I guess. [15:05] steveire: OK. Give me a moment. [15:08] steveire: wget the .debs for the packages you have installed from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cmake/2.8.2-2ubuntu0.1/+build/2107336 (e.g. wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cmake/2.8.2-2ubuntu0.1/+build/2107336/+files/cmake_2.8.2-2ubuntu0.1_i386.deb, wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cmake/2.8.2-2ubuntu0.1/+build/2107336/+files/cmake-data_2.8.2-2ubuntu0.1_all.deb), then sudo dpkg -i *.deb (assuming there are no other [15:08] debs in the directory you download them to). [15:08] That's it. [15:09] If you were on amd64, it'd be https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cmake/2.8.2-2ubuntu0.1/+build/2107334 [15:21] bluedevil updated [15:49] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1208626 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ChangeLog ChangeLog++ [15:51] ScottK: Seems to have worked: http://dpaste.com/289483/ [15:51] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1208629 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/cache.cpp Re-apply the packageCacheFile port from revision 1191219 with a few changes to fix regressions that led to that revision's reversion. We have saved ~50 lines of code and are no longer rolling our own APT cache code. [15:51] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1191219&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1191219 | Use libapt-pkg's pkgCacheFile for a bunch of cache-related stuff inside QApt::Cache, rather than rolling our own. This results in the nice loss of ... [15:51] And kdevelop works at normal speed again :) [15:52] steveire: Perfect. Please comment in the bug and then you can just upgrade normally back to 2.8.3. [16:12] [muon] jmthomas * 1208630 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) (log message trimmed) [16:12] Don't returnFromPreview() on all errors, since not all errors warrant it. [16:12] Instead, move the returnFromPreview() call to the reload() function. Errors that [16:30] JontheEchidna: Would you have time to look at libdebconf-kde linking? It's FTBFS in lucas rebuild test and although I've added a CMake module to find the missing QtCore.so and it works, but the link still fails. [16:30] (If you have time, I'll provide additional info) [16:31] ScottK: sure [16:32] but I think I've lost the link to lucas's FTBFS page [16:33] it used to be in the #ubuntu-motu topic but I don't see it there anymore [16:35] http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi [16:38] JontheEchidna: http://pastebin.com/XvDJzwkZ and http://pastebin.com/iu4zAPxA get me to where configure claims it finds QtCore. [16:38] (DL is in there mostly for testing - I doubt it's actually needed) [16:40] the target_link_libraries of debkonf are woefully inadequate [16:40] that's probably what's causing the failure [16:40] Yes and I think it needs someone who can read the code to figure it out. [16:40] ok, I'll take a look [16:41] I've added the CMake bits to find the lib the LD is complaining about and that doesn't solve it. [16:41] the library is present in the chroot, but it's not in the linker command [16:41] so ld with the --as-needed flag won't catch it [16:42] It's in the chroot [16:42] I think it's actually missing something else and LD is complaining about the wrong thing. [16:42] No idea what [16:43] the debkonf binary need QtCore symbols, but with ld being set to use the --as-needed flag in natty it won't get QtCore secondhand from libdebconf-kde [16:43] which is now the only thing at all it is linking against [16:44] making this the tools/CMakeLists.txt should fix it: http://pastebin.com/az5nX7p3 [16:44] dantti: ^ [16:45] Let me try [16:45] JontheEchidna: ? [16:46] dantti: libdebconf-kde fails to link when the --as-needed flag is passed to the linker. ScottK is testing a patch to fix it [16:46] JontheEchidna: ah right.. me knows very little about compile flags... [16:47] JontheEchidna: Progress. [16:47] /usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/debkonf.dir/main.o: undefined reference to symbol 'KApplication::~KApplication()' [16:47] /usr/bin/ld: note: 'KApplication::~KApplication()' is defined in DSO /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 so try adding it to the linker command line [16:48] JontheEchidna: What do I add for that one? [16:48] ScottK: ${KDE4_KDEUI_LIBS} [16:48] Thanks [16:48] Bingo [16:49] Thanks a million JontheEchidna. [16:49] :) [16:49] dantti: this tools/CMakeLists.txt should fix it: http://pastebin.com/LcfH8puE [16:50] JontheEchidna: k, I'll commit it thanks [16:53] Uploaded. [16:53] That leaves kubuntu-docs as the last Kubuntu package that failed the rebuild. [17:15] JontheEchidna: That also taught me something about reading build failure logs and where to look for linking problems. I think I got one more Universe fix as a result already. Thanks again. [17:15] You're welcome === ximion1 is now known as ximion [17:28] Or not.... composite has the same error, but the solution didn't apply (or I applied it in the wrong place) [17:32] Riddell is packaging up a storm. Someone should help him. [17:32] * ScottK takes oxygen-icons. [17:36] new default wallpaper http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/1280x1024.png [17:37] I think we can live with that. [17:37] omg [17:39] * ScottK notes ulysses should get to work. [17:39] * ulysses should learn to the exam tomorrow [17:40] hello [17:40] hi crissi [17:40] i updated from 10.04 to 10.10 [17:40] on sunday [17:40] i used 2.6.37 on lucid and 10.10 too [17:41] today my graphic went wrong [17:41] i used the radeon driver for some month on lucid and since sunday on 10.10 [17:41] now, the system went slow if the readon driver is loaded [17:42] if i use the vesa driver, i got a working desktop but i have vertical stripes on the right part of screen [17:42] i did updates every day [17:43] also, i use kde 4.5.4 from ppa [17:43] could it be that something went wrong with the updates? [17:43] i never had these problems with the radeon driver [17:43] VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300] [17:44] this is the card [17:44] it would be nice if there is a regression in kubuntu when its found and fixed [17:46] now i have to leave, back later [17:50] crissi: So you're upset about a video regression in 10.10 when you're using a non-standard kernel with it? === jonathan is now known as bulldog98-konv [18:29] [muon] jmthomas * 1208656 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationBackend.cpp Since invalid Application pointers are not added to the application list, delete them when they are found to be invalid. Otherwise we leak them. [18:58] is there a location listing version of KDE, kernel, etc that will be in natty so i can easily update everything for the docs? [18:59] jjesse: KDE will be 4.6.x where X is the latest when we release. Dunno about the rest. [18:59] thanks ScottK [19:22] hmm, I think I uploaded kdegames to natty by mistake and I think I built kdepim-runtime with the wrong packaging [19:22] to hasty [19:23] off out to pre-birthday meal now === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:45] [muon] jmthomas * 1208690 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/MainWindow.cpp Use the more efficient Backend::areChangesMarked() function rather than constructing/checking the size of a list of all marked changes [22:03] [muon] jmthomas * 1208694 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (StatusWidget.cpp StatusWidget.h) Add a timeout for the xapian update progress bar, so that if things fail we don't leave a phantom progress bar hanging around [22:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmCpOKtN8ME === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [22:31] \o [22:33] hey Quintasan [22:33] yofel: sup [22:34] adjusting neon for kdepim git move, after that I'll do something for rc1 if there's anything left [22:35] brrr [22:35] those damn git moves [22:36] well, bzr-git works at least :P [22:36] Is that giving us any kind of advantage? [22:37] a bit less more work [22:37] hmmm [22:37] I like it then. [22:37] I'm almost done anyway [22:38] yofel: great, I believe bindings still FTBFS [22:38] let me try this [22:39] I tried bindings yesterday, FTBFS [22:39] HERP DERP [22:39] They should fix it finally [22:40] yofel: do you have recipes archived anywhere? [22:40] Quintasan: archived? [22:40] yofel: As in, text files, not on Launchpad only [22:41] nope, didn't bother since it's only 3 lines that are mostly identical [22:51] anyone wanna have spam? [22:51] * apachelogger is very emaily today [22:51] not that I started reading mails again :P [22:51] just writing new ones [22:52] apachelogger: I have enough spam from you, so I'll pass [22:52] too bad [22:52] oh, I could also generate some launchpad spam :D :D :D [22:52] I suppose packaging rc1 is covered? [22:52] That was the spam I was reffering to [22:52] or refering, it was. [22:52] * apachelogger didnt do launchpad spam recently? [22:53] <-- very lazy [22:53] Oh God, apachelogger go fix kdebindings [22:53] I blame it all on markey who keeps me up until 6 and makes me drink vast amounts of alcohol [22:53] Quintasan: dude, kdebindings [22:53] ... [22:53] >makes me drink vast amounts of alcohol [22:53] is getting split into multiple repos :P [22:53] I wouldn't complain about that. [22:53] imagine the fun :D :D :D [22:53] Quintasan: I would say upload 4.6 instead of trunk so we have something we can use for now... [22:53] apachelogger: You're kidding, right? [22:53] nah [22:54] yofel: ^^ [22:54] OHSHI- [22:54] apachelogger: you serious? [22:54] then again, they split support too [22:54] GOD DAMN YOU KDE [22:54] eean knows the details [22:54] WHY'D U DO DIS TO ME T_T [22:55] here is a general question [22:55] yofel: getting that imported is going to be a SERIOUS PITA [22:55] why do we package bindings? [22:55] I mean, up until rc2 or final... [22:55] apachelogger: because we have notjing better to do? [22:55] it is known to be broken and shit and whatnot [22:55] nothing* [22:55] *shrug* - beta2 actually built somehow [22:55] It's a miracle. [22:56] probably jr deactivated stuff in beta1? :P [22:56] In case of kdebindings every finished build is a miracle. [22:56] I like that paradigm... deactivate stuff and then forget about it and a month before release people come and complain :D :D [22:56] qimageblitz was deactivated I think, haven't looked at rc1 yet [22:56] Quintasan: http://memegenerator.net/Y-U-NO/ImageMacro/4560111/KDEBINDINGS-Y-U-NO-COMPILE [22:56] Quintasan: well, from that POV... if they also release it as multiple tars (which I should hope they do) it is going to be much more accessible [22:57] JontheEchidna: rofl [22:57] seeing as you seem to be up on your memes [22:57] JontheEchidna: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF [22:57] love it :D [22:58] oh oh oh [22:58] JontheEchidna: http://memegenerator.net/Y-U-NO/ImageMacro/4560168/JontheEchidna-Y-U-DO-DIS [22:58] JontheEchidna: I need to show you something [22:58] JontheEchidna: http://decibel.silent-blade.org/index.php?n=Main.Benchmark what do you think of this benchmark? [22:59] JontheEchidna: http://memegenerator.net/Question-Spiderman/ImageMacro/4560208/How-do-I-compile-kdebindings [23:00] haha, forgot about the "how do i shot web?" meme [23:00] http://memegenerator.net/Victory-Baby/ImageMacro/4560228/KDEBINDING-COMPILED [23:00] dis [23:00] I'm saving this for every successful compile [23:00] apachelogger: I like the last point [23:00] Quintasan: haha [23:00] :D [23:01] ^^ [23:01] JontheEchidna: I was more targetting the methodology ;) [23:01] oh [23:01] ah [23:01] hm [23:04] for memory usage I'd be more inclined to use ksysguard's comprehensive RAM usage numbers: http://i.imgur.com/lzY0Q.png [23:06] JontheEchidna: You are running Natty? [23:06] Quintasan: yup [23:06] you can see shitty intel driver corruption in my bottom panel [23:07] JontheEchidna: Isn't it becoming unresponsive after a few hours? [23:07] nope [23:07] :/ [23:07] * Quintasan is the only one having problem [23:08] After few hours it freezes for a few seconds and the is slooooow as a snail [23:08] Launching up Konsole takes 7 seconds [23:08] * apachelogger hugs markey [23:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CgT4N0zU1M [23:09] it becomes laggy here after a while, but I blame nvidia for that [23:09] apachelogger is telling lies. don't believe a single word of it === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Xmas party on Thursday | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Please test KDE in lucid-proposed LP: #691068 | Ninjas packaging RC 1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | KDE PIM 4.4.9 to be packaged [23:09] (between us: he is a satanist) [23:09] oh oh oh oh [23:09] today is party day [23:09] and we still do not know what to do for partying [23:09] not here :( [23:09] <- lonely, and in need for hugs [23:09] still another hour of hard graft non-partying here [23:10] I'll take a shot at KDEPIM 4.4.9. [23:10] * apachelogger is wondering if shadeslayer is already partying === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Xmas party on Thursday | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Please test KDE in lucid-proposed LP: #691068 | Ninjas packaging RC 1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [23:12] good luck ScottK :) [23:12] ScottK: natty and kubuntu-ppa and kubuntu-ppa/beta? [23:12] I'll do Natty and then see what time it is. [23:13] I kinda bet we want this packaged http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Activity+Manager+Plasmoid?content=136278 [23:13] Riddell: rc1 bindings builds with qimageblitz btw. [23:14] Quintasan: if it better than the one that comes with Plasma? does it actually make activities something anyone might want to use? [23:14] yofel: oh great, how did you find that out? [23:14] just tried to build it a few minutes ago [23:15] Riddell: well, I find the Plasma one rather crappy, and well, that's partly KDE's fault but unless someone knows what can one do with activities they won't use it anyways [23:19] yofel: http://pastebin.com/vHrqaDji [23:19] yofel: want to make the changes in bzr then? [23:20] yofel: I think we can use this as our Description template [23:20] Riddell: I can, but give me a few minutes to finish something else first [23:20] Quintasan: sounds ok [23:20] shadeslayer: ^