| UBuxuBU | i am downloading lubuntu for the 1st time from the website. i have never used it or onstalled it. it is going into one of my clients manines. is there anything i need to know? i have been using ubuntu along side windows for awhile now. | 01:23 |
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| UBuxuBU | installed* | 01:23 |
| UBuxuBU | machines* | 01:24 |
| UBuxuBU | dou recommend 1010 or 1004 | 01:45 |
| UBuxuBU | oh well thanks anyway...here goes 10.10 | 01:53 |
| phillw | bug #1 | 04:17 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 04:17 |
| * phillw you got to love them bots :D | 04:17 | |
| bioterror | well, opensource still lacks something like Exchange and that's the best solution in corporate world | 04:23 |
| bioterror | and we cant talk about evolution and outlook on same day | 04:24 |
| === ProperN[out] is now known as ProperNoun | ||
| aktomariel_2012 | Hi! I ma from Kiev, Ukraine | 08:01 |
| aktomariel_2012 | I want install lubuntu on 8 gb USB stuck for use with Sony Vaio VGN p530N is 8gb enough for normal system & I wan istalk minimum then instal sime extra soft for network | 08:02 |
| aktomariel_2012 | anybady alive * | 08:11 |
| aktomariel_2012 | ? | 08:11 |
| === ProperN[out] is now known as ProperNoun | ||
| manfredrasta | hi all | 10:28 |
| bioterror | hi | 10:28 |
| manfredrasta | i need help, where is the update manager in my lubuntu 10.04? | 10:29 |
| bioterror | I think synaptic | 10:29 |
| bioterror | that's the tool | 10:29 |
| bioterror | but ofcourse you can say in terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" | 10:29 |
| bioterror | without "" | 10:29 |
| manfredrasta | synaptics is the package manager. Is the same thing? | 10:30 |
| manfredrasta | I mean with the interface | 10:30 |
| manfredrasta | hi? | 10:31 |
| bioterror | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9016857&postcount=3 | 10:31 |
| bioterror | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/KeepLubuntuUptoDate | 10:33 |
| manfredrasta | thanks | 10:34 |
| manfredrasta | will i install lubuntu 10.10 doing that? | 10:35 |
| bioterror | nope | 10:35 |
| manfredrasta | ok | 10:36 |
| manfredrasta | the thing is that I want to do that | 10:36 |
| manfredrasta | :) | 10:36 |
| manfredrasta | dont need update manager ? | 10:36 |
| friTTe| | think you should do a dist upgrade | 10:36 |
| manfredrasta | yes | 10:37 |
| friTTe| | you on 10.04 now? | 10:37 |
| manfredrasta | yes | 10:37 |
| manfredrasta | and want 10.10 | 10:37 |
| bioterror | manfredrasta, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade -d | 10:37 |
| manfredrasta | ok | 10:37 |
| friTTe| | ;) | 10:37 |
| manfredrasta | should i make a backup first? | 10:37 |
| bioterror | tjena friTTe| | 10:37 |
| friTTe| | tjena | 10:37 |
| friTTe| | manfredrasta, backup is always good | 10:37 |
| manfredrasta | friTTe|, and how do i do a backup? Me noob | 10:38 |
| friTTe| | hmm well, i only backup when doing reinstallations, save the important stuff to an external or something like that | 10:38 |
| friTTe| | like documents and such | 10:38 |
| friTTe| | but there are several diferent pure backup programs but ive never used the | 10:39 |
| friTTe| | *them | 10:39 |
| manfredrasta | ok | 10:39 |
| manfredrasta | the thing is that to make lubuntu working good in my laptop i needed to change the Xorg | 10:39 |
| friTTe| | i always try to kjeep stuff i wanna have on another hdd or partition | 10:40 |
| bioterror | cp -Rv /home/username /media/Backup | 10:40 |
| bioterror | that's how I did it last night | 10:40 |
| friTTe| | nice | 10:40 |
| bioterror | so fritte | 10:41 |
| bioterror | what have you been upto lately, havent seen you for a while | 10:41 |
| bioterror | we could even use a sentence "we've been missing you" :D | 10:41 |
| friTTe| | hehe | 10:41 |
| friTTe| | well studying | 10:41 |
| friTTe| | and im about to move to another city now in january | 10:41 |
| bioterror | where are you going to move? GOTHborg? | 10:41 |
| bioterror | it would be awesome to live in a city called GOTHborg | 10:42 |
| friTTe| | and took the step over to Debian based stuff, so Debian Sid Xfce and Crunchbang is my addicions | 10:42 |
| friTTe| | gothenburg | 10:42 |
| friTTe| | göteborg | 10:42 |
| friTTe| | haha | 10:42 |
| bioterror | götis as we call it | 10:42 |
| bioterror | :D | 10:42 |
| friTTe| | yeah, well my city is called Karlskoga, near Örebro | 10:42 |
| bioterror | oh | 10:42 |
| bioterror | skog :D | 10:42 |
| friTTe| | 11mil from here, about 1 hour drive | 10:42 |
| bioterror | you and your mil | 10:43 |
| friTTe| | yeah | 10:43 |
| bioterror | 11mil = 110km | 10:43 |
| friTTe| | yes | 10:43 |
| friTTe| | so lifes rolling on finally, start a brand new life | 10:44 |
| bioterror | oh | 10:44 |
| bioterror | you're high on a life | 10:44 |
| friTTe| | sort of | 10:44 |
| friTTe| | but i need that, been down for a long time and medicated =) | 10:44 |
| friTTe| | my turn now | 10:45 |
| bioterror | friTTe|, well, nice to hear | 11:02 |
| friTTe| | yeah | 11:02 |
| phillw | hiyas friTTe|:) | 11:23 |
| friTTe| | \o | 11:25 |
| phillw | friTTe|: pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic :) | 11:25 |
| cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... can i work with lubuntu on 512 MB ? | 15:39 |
| phillw | cobra-the-joker: most certainly can :) | 15:40 |
| cobra-the-joker | nice then | 15:41 |
| phillw | 128MB is about the minimum | 15:41 |
| cobra-the-joker | wow ... thats amazing | 15:41 |
| cobra-the-joker | what about the cpu ? | 15:41 |
| phillw | cobra-the-joker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System%20requirements | 15:42 |
| Yorvyk | cobra-the-joker, if you’ve got ½ gig of RAM anything over 200MHz should be OK | 15:42 |
| Yorvyk | Hi phillw | 15:42 |
| phillw | hiyas Yorvyk | 15:43 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, just seen the email to the list about proof reading the wiki | 15:44 |
| phillw | cobra-the-joker: it was a decision by the linux kernel team to drop the older processors. It has put extra workload on the developers for Lubuntu, but it was a case that we really had to commit to. | 15:45 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, who what where should I inform of an erros | 15:45 |
| phillw | Yorvyk: I'm still in slight shock over how much Zach did. Just reply to the email. | 15:46 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, some are just trivial typos should I edit them | 15:46 |
| phillw | Yorvyk: by all means. | 15:47 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, OK Ta. | 15:47 |
| phillw | Yorvyk: if you flag it as trivial changes when you go to save, it will stop us getting email alerts :P | 15:47 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, OK, I’ve spammed myself before with this sort of thing. will do. | 15:48 |
| patrick_ | hello i have a big problem. If I insert a CD then Lubuntu doesent show a disc can somebody help me??? | 16:51 |
| zkriesse | A cd of what? | 16:52 |
| zkriesse | Music? Movie? | 16:52 |
| patrick_ | Program | 16:52 |
| zkriesse | Ok, program as in? | 16:52 |
| zkriesse | We thrive on details my good man | 16:52 |
| patrick_ | sorry my english arent so god i try it explain | 16:53 |
| patrick_ | if i insert a cd in the computer then Lubuntu doesnt show a disc | 16:54 |
| zkriesse | Ok, hmmm | 16:55 |
| zkriesse | phillw: any ideas? | 16:55 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, which version of Lubuntu are you using | 16:56 |
| patrick_ | 10.10 | 16:57 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, give me a second while I boot up 10.10 | 16:58 |
| patrick_ | ok | 16:59 |
| phillw | patrick_: it will there via pcmanfm, they do not show on the desktop | 16:59 |
| patrick_ | pcmanfm show no disc | 17:00 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, on the left hand side in the panel | 17:00 |
| patrick_ | pcmanfm does not show a cd drive that's the problem | 17:03 |
| patrick_ | only the cd drive will not be displayed | 17:05 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, from the menu go to System Tools > System Profiler and Benchmark > Storage | 17:05 |
| patrick_ | there is indicated the cd but not in pcmanfm | 17:07 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, so the computer knows it’s got a CD drive | 17:09 |
| patrick_ | its strange | 17:09 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, got to Edit > Preferences > Volume Management in pcmanfm | 17:10 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, are the options there ticked? | 17:10 |
| patrick_ | all is ticked | 17:11 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, close that and go to Preferences > Users and Groups > Advanced Settings | 17:13 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, User Privileges and scroll down the list to see if Use CD-ROM drives is ticked. | 17:14 |
| patrick_ | its ticked | 17:17 |
| patrick_ | it doesnt work | 17:24 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, I’m stumped as those are the only things I’ve seen that prevent the CD-ROM showing in pcmanfm if it’s known to the system | 17:25 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, which version og pcmanfm are you using | 17:25 |
| patrick_ | 0.9.7 | 17:26 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, just a thought as there is a problem with 0.98 | 17:28 |
| Yorvyk | patrick_, if you go to Go > My Computer in pcmanfm does it show there | 17:29 |
| patrick_ | only the disc drive are not show | 17:31 |
| patrick_ | its very strange | 17:36 |
| JLuc | hello ! | 19:31 |
| JLuc | i have downloaded nautilus through synaptics tool | 19:44 |
| JLuc | but it doesnt appear anywhere | 19:44 |
| JLuc | i wanted to try it instead of pcmanfm | 19:45 |
| JLuc | how could i proceed now ? | 19:45 |
| bioterror | alt+f2 and type "nautilus" without "" | 19:47 |
| JLuc | ok its there | 19:50 |
| JLuc | i'm quite a newcomer to linux :-/ | 19:51 |
| JLuc | how do I create a shortcut on the desktop toward nautilus ? | 19:51 |
| JLuc | well i'll look on the web for ubuntu's hints | 19:52 |
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| Yorvyk | JLuc, are you using Ubuntu or Lubuntu | 19:55 |
| JLuc | i"m on lubuntu yes | 19:55 |
| Yorvyk | So have you installed Nautilus | 19:56 |
| JLuc | yes it is ok i wanted to try it | 19:56 |
| JLuc | thanks bioterror for the ALT F2 = exec trick | 19:57 |
| bioterror | np | 19:57 |
| JLuc | I have everything to discover so i try | 19:57 |
| JLuc | and sometime i ask | 19:57 |
| Yorvyk | OK if you navigate to /usr/share/applications and copy the nautilus.desktop file to desktop | 19:58 |
| JLuc | i have no nautilus file in this folder | 20:04 |
| bioterror | look example from another file and make yourself a nautilus one ;) | 20:04 |
| JLuc | ok i try ! | 20:05 |
| bioterror | you can copy any file | 20:05 |
| bioterror | rename it to nautilus.desktop | 20:05 |
| bioterror | and modify it | 20:05 |
| bioterror | :D | 20:05 |
| bioterror | like real script kiddies do | 20:05 |
| JLuc | i dont see the .desktop extension for the files in this folder | 20:05 |
| JLuc | that'll be another question.. | 20:05 |
| JLuc | ... | 20:05 |
| Yorvyk | Just looked through the logs and realised if it doesn’t appear in the menu there is no .desktop file | 20:06 |
| Yorvyk | JLuc, you won’t see the extension unless you change the view to detailed. they a re all .desktop files in /usr/share/application | 20:07 |
| JLuc | ok thats easy :-) | 20:08 |
| JLuc | ermmm | 20:10 |
| JLuc | the detailled view shows a description of the file type, but doesnt show the extension itself... | 20:11 |
| JLuc | and when I save to nautilus.desktop it says "allready exists" but i cant see it | 20:11 |
| JLuc | it seems i dont see the real name of the files | 20:11 |
| JLuc | there are many "file manager" files | 20:11 |
| JLuc | one of them might be the nautilus.desktop | 20:12 |
| JLuc | I got it ! | 20:13 |
| Yorvyk | \o/ | 20:13 |
| JLuc | its strange I can't see the real name of these files ! | 20:13 |
| Yorvyk | .desktop files are like that - they try to hide there true selves :D | 20:14 |
| JLuc | ermmm | 20:16 |
| JLuc | i copied it on the desktop | 20:16 |
| JLuc | and there again "do you want to overwrite existing file with same name" | 20:16 |
| JLuc | before answering, a new icon (first on desktop) appeard : file manager | 20:17 |
| JLuc | i yessed | 20:17 |
| JLuc | yes'd | 20:17 |
| JLuc | now i dont understand : | 20:17 |
| JLuc | the icon launches pcmanfm ! | 20:18 |
| JLuc | and alt F2 nautilus launchs pcmanfm aswell ! | 20:18 |
| JLuc | well... | 20:19 |
| JLuc | i'll keep keep some more with pcmanfm | 20:19 |
| JLuc | maybe lubuntu is less newbee friendly as ubuntu ? | 20:19 |
| Yorvyk | Yes No Maybe | 20:20 |
| bioterror | it is | 20:20 |
| bioterror | but you can handle configuring openbox with text editor, it's okay | 20:20 |
| Yorvyk | It’s assumed that a Newbie would stick with the default applications | 20:21 |
| JLuc | ok i can stick with pcmanfm | 20:21 |
| JLuc | however nautilus seemed to have a search ability | 20:22 |
| JLuc | Ooah nevermind | 20:22 |
| Yorvyk | Nautilus does have search but I tend to use 'find' | 20:24 |
| phillw | Yorvyk: 'locate' is also a good one to master :) | 20:25 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, yep I keep forgetting that one | 20:26 |
| bioterror | find / |grep word | 20:26 |
| bioterror | you dont need that database | 20:27 |
| phillw | locate == where the blooming heck did I put that file :P | 20:27 |
| phillw | bioterror: as we have the dayabase, we may as well use it :) | 20:28 |
| phillw | *dayabase* | 20:28 |
| phillw | *database*..... Grrrrr... | 20:28 |
| bioterror | and updatedb requires to have computer open around 3am or something it used to be | 20:28 |
| phillw | bioterror: as mine is on 24/7, that is not a problem :D | 20:29 |
| bioterror | well same for me | 20:29 |
| JLuc | i typed man find and got 10 pages of doc ! | 20:33 |
| bioterror | JLuc, info is okay too, it's more interactive | 20:33 |
| JLuc | lxterminal | 20:33 |
| JLuc | oups | 20:33 |
| JLuc | but couldnt manage to get out of it and had to kill the console... | 20:34 |
| bioterror | q usually works | 20:34 |
| JLuc | ah ! | 20:34 |
| JLuc | yesterday i'm glad i managed to add skype into the autostart apps ! | 20:35 |
| JLuc | that was not easy neither | 20:35 |
| bioterror | hahaha, true dat | 20:35 |
| bioterror | it could be done a little more easier in lxde | 20:35 |
| bioterror | or openbox | 20:35 |
| Yorvyk | Pity skype is down though | 20:37 |
| JLuc | ok so .deskto files are shortcuts. | 20:39 |
| JLuc | .desktop | 20:39 |
| bioterror | yes | 20:39 |
| bioterror | "launchers" | 20:39 |
| JLuc | fine | 20:40 |
| JLuc | well i was wrong : nautilus launches nautilus ok | 20:42 |
| JLuc | it looks much the same as pcmanfm | 20:43 |
| JLuc | but there is a search option ! | 20:43 |
| JLuc | in int | 20:43 |
| JLuc | in it | 20:43 |
| JLuc | now i have problem installing dropbox | 20:44 |
| JLuc | there are 2 versions : ubuntu 32 and ubuntu 64 | 20:44 |
| JLuc | in the system profiler i dont see whether it is 32 or 64 | 20:45 |
| JLuc | however there are lots of technical specs appearing there | 20:46 |
| bioterror | open terminal | 20:46 |
| bioterror | uname -a | 20:46 |
| bioterror | if it says i686 it's 32bit | 20:46 |
| bioterror | if it says amd64, it's 64 | 20:46 |
| JLuc | ok thanks ! | 20:46 |
| JLuc | so i downloaded ubuntu 32 | 20:47 |
| JLuc | its a .deb | 20:47 |
| bioterror | $ apt-cache search dropbox | 20:47 |
| bioterror | dropbox - secure backup, sync and sharing util | 20:47 |
| bioterror | why not use apt-get install dropbox? | 20:47 |
| JLuc | i dont know these commands | 20:48 |
| JLuc | i cant get the .deb to launch | 20:48 |
| JLuc | i try apt-get install dropbox | 20:48 |
| JLuc | with sudo | 20:49 |
| bioterror | yes | 20:49 |
| JLuc | but there is a lock : /var/lib/dpkg/lock | 20:50 |
| JLuc | not available | 20:50 |
| Yorvyk | JLuc, do you have synaptic open | 20:51 |
| JLuc | maybe some other process uses it | 20:51 |
| JLuc | yes it was | 20:51 |
| JLuc | i closed it | 20:51 |
| JLuc | its better now | 20:51 |
| JLuc | but i guess i must do that in the download directory | 20:51 |
| JLuc | there is a nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.debfile in the dl dir | 20:54 |
| JLuc | when i sudo apt-get install dropbox | 20:54 |
| JLuc | it reads the packets ("paquets" in french) ok | 20:55 |
| JLuc | it reads the states ok | 20:55 |
| JLuc | but cannot find the dropbox packet | 20:55 |
| JLuc | amof it might be a plugin for nautilus | 20:58 |
| JLuc | ok i will follow http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall | 20:59 |
| JLuc | errrrr | 21:00 |
| bioterror | take it easy | 21:00 |
| bioterror | you're rushing now | 21:00 |
| bioterror | dpkg -L dropbox | 21:00 |
| bioterror | tells what files it did install | 21:01 |
| bioterror | and usually from /usr/bin/ you can find executable file | 21:01 |
| Yorvyk | There should be an entry in the Internet menu which you click to continue the installation | 21:02 |
| JLuc | no the .deb was very small and didnt install anything it was just a kind of launcher | 21:07 |
| JLuc | but now i managed to install dropbox | 21:07 |
| JLuc | using the link page | 21:07 |
| bioterror | :D | 21:07 |
| JLuc | it works fine :-) | 21:07 |
| JLuc | yep | 21:08 |
| bioterror | dep is like .msi file on windows | 21:08 |
| bioterror | .deb | 21:08 |
| JLuc | ok thank you all | 21:10 |
| JLuc | i manage to do the important things | 21:10 |
| JLuc | thats what matters | 21:10 |
| JLuc | Bye ! | 21:14 |
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