[01:23] <UBuxuBU> i am downloading lubuntu for the 1st time from the website. i have never used it or onstalled it. it is going into one of my clients manines. is there anything i need to know? i have been using ubuntu along side windows for awhile now.
[01:23] <UBuxuBU> installed*
[01:24] <UBuxuBU> machines*
[01:45] <UBuxuBU> dou recommend 1010 or 1004
[01:53] <UBuxuBU> oh well thanks anyway...here goes 10.10
[04:17] <phillw> bug #1
[04:17]  * phillw you got to love them bots :D
[04:23] <bioterror> well, opensource still lacks something like Exchange and that's the best solution in corporate world
[04:24] <bioterror> and we cant talk about evolution and outlook on same day
[08:01] <aktomariel_2012> Hi! I ma from Kiev, Ukraine
[08:02] <aktomariel_2012> I want install lubuntu on 8 gb USB stuck for use with Sony Vaio VGN p530N is 8gb enough for normal system & I wan istalk minimum then instal sime extra soft for network
[08:11] <aktomariel_2012> anybady alive *
[08:11] <aktomariel_2012> ?
[10:28] <manfredrasta> hi all
[10:28] <bioterror> hi
[10:29] <manfredrasta> i need help, where is the update manager in my lubuntu 10.04?
[10:29] <bioterror> I think synaptic
[10:29] <bioterror> that's the tool
[10:29] <bioterror> but ofcourse you can say in terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:29] <bioterror> without ""
[10:30] <manfredrasta> synaptics is the package manager. Is the same thing?
[10:30] <manfredrasta> I mean with the interface
[10:31] <manfredrasta> hi?
[10:31] <bioterror> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9016857&postcount=3
[10:33] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/KeepLubuntuUptoDate
[10:34] <manfredrasta> thanks
[10:35] <manfredrasta> will i install lubuntu 10.10 doing that?
[10:35] <bioterror> nope
[10:36] <manfredrasta> ok
[10:36] <manfredrasta> the thing is that I want to do that
[10:36] <manfredrasta> :)
[10:36] <manfredrasta> dont need update manager ?
[10:36] <friTTe|> think you should do a dist upgrade
[10:37] <manfredrasta> yes
[10:37] <friTTe|> you on 10.04 now?
[10:37] <manfredrasta> yes
[10:37] <manfredrasta> and want 10.10
[10:37] <bioterror> manfredrasta, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[10:37] <manfredrasta> ok
[10:37] <friTTe|> ;)
[10:37] <manfredrasta> should i make a backup first?
[10:37] <bioterror> tjena friTTe|
[10:37] <friTTe|> tjena
[10:37] <friTTe|> manfredrasta,  backup is always good
[10:38] <manfredrasta> friTTe|, and how do i do a backup? Me noob
[10:38] <friTTe|> hmm well, i only backup when doing reinstallations, save the important stuff to an external or something like that
[10:38] <friTTe|> like documents and such
[10:39] <friTTe|> but there are several diferent pure backup programs but ive never used the
[10:39] <friTTe|> *them
[10:39] <manfredrasta> ok
[10:39] <manfredrasta> the thing is that to make lubuntu working good in my laptop i needed to change the Xorg
[10:40] <friTTe|> i always try to kjeep stuff i wanna have on another hdd or partition
[10:40] <bioterror> cp -Rv /home/username /media/Backup
[10:40] <bioterror> that's how I did it last night
[10:40] <friTTe|> nice
[10:41] <bioterror> so fritte
[10:41] <bioterror> what have you been upto lately, havent seen you for a while
[10:41] <bioterror> we could even use a sentence "we've been missing you" :D
[10:41] <friTTe|> hehe
[10:41] <friTTe|> well studying
[10:41] <friTTe|> and im about to move to another city now in january
[10:41] <bioterror> where are you going to move? GOTHborg?
[10:42] <bioterror> it would be awesome to live in a city called GOTHborg
[10:42] <friTTe|> and took the step over to Debian based stuff, so Debian Sid Xfce and Crunchbang is my addicions
[10:42] <friTTe|> gothenburg
[10:42] <friTTe|> göteborg
[10:42] <friTTe|> haha
[10:42] <bioterror> götis as we call it
[10:42] <bioterror> :D
[10:42] <friTTe|> yeah, well my city is called Karlskoga, near Örebro
[10:42] <bioterror> oh
[10:42] <bioterror> skog :D
[10:42] <friTTe|> 11mil from here, about 1 hour drive
[10:43] <bioterror> you and your mil
[10:43] <friTTe|> yeah
[10:43] <bioterror> 11mil = 110km
[10:43] <friTTe|> yes
[10:44] <friTTe|> so lifes rolling on finally, start a brand new life
[10:44] <bioterror> oh
[10:44] <bioterror> you're high on a life
[10:44] <friTTe|> sort of
[10:44] <friTTe|> but i need that, been down for a long time and medicated =)
[10:45] <friTTe|> my turn now
[11:02] <bioterror> friTTe|, well, nice to hear
[11:02] <friTTe|> yeah
[11:23] <phillw> hiyas friTTe|:)
[11:25] <friTTe|> \o
[11:25] <phillw> friTTe|: pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic :)
[15:39] <cobra-the-joker> hey guys ... can i work with lubuntu on 512 MB ?
[15:40] <phillw> cobra-the-joker: most certainly can :)
[15:41] <cobra-the-joker> nice then
[15:41] <phillw> 128MB is about the minimum
[15:41] <cobra-the-joker> wow ... thats amazing
[15:41] <cobra-the-joker> what about the cpu ?
[15:42] <phillw> cobra-the-joker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System%20requirements
[15:42] <Yorvyk> cobra-the-joker, if you’ve got ½ gig of RAM anything over 200MHz should be OK
[15:42] <Yorvyk> Hi phillw
[15:43] <phillw> hiyas Yorvyk
[15:44] <Yorvyk> phillw, just seen the email to the list about proof reading the wiki
[15:45] <phillw> cobra-the-joker: it was a decision by the linux kernel team to drop the older processors. It has put extra workload on the developers for Lubuntu, but it was a case that we really had to commit to.
[15:45] <Yorvyk> phillw, who what where should I inform of an erros
[15:46] <phillw> Yorvyk: I'm still in slight shock over how much Zach did. Just reply to the email.
[15:46] <Yorvyk> phillw, some are just trivial typos should I edit them
[15:47] <phillw> Yorvyk: by all means.
[15:47] <Yorvyk> phillw, OK Ta.
[15:47] <phillw> Yorvyk: if you flag it as trivial changes when you go to save, it will stop us getting email alerts :P
[15:48] <Yorvyk> phillw, OK, I’ve spammed myself before with this sort of thing. will do.
[16:51] <patrick_> hello i have a big problem. If I insert a CD then Lubuntu doesent show a disc can somebody help me???
[16:52] <zkriesse> A cd of what?
[16:52] <zkriesse> Music? Movie?
[16:52] <patrick_> Program
[16:52] <zkriesse> Ok, program as in?
[16:52] <zkriesse> We thrive on details my good man
[16:53] <patrick_> sorry my english arent so god i try it explain
[16:54] <patrick_> if i insert a cd in the computer then Lubuntu doesnt show a disc
[16:55] <zkriesse> Ok, hmmm
[16:55] <zkriesse> phillw: any ideas?
[16:56] <Yorvyk> patrick_, which version of Lubuntu are you using
[16:57] <patrick_> 10.10
[16:58] <Yorvyk> patrick_, give me a second while I boot up 10.10
[16:59] <patrick_> ok
[16:59] <phillw> patrick_: it will there via pcmanfm, they do not show on the desktop
[17:00] <patrick_> pcmanfm show no disc
[17:00] <Yorvyk> patrick_, on the left hand side in the panel
[17:03] <patrick_> pcmanfm does not show a cd drive that's the problem
[17:05] <patrick_> only the cd drive will not be displayed
[17:05] <Yorvyk> patrick_, from the menu go to System Tools > System Profiler and Benchmark > Storage
[17:07] <patrick_> there is indicated the cd but not in pcmanfm
[17:09] <Yorvyk> patrick_, so the computer knows it’s got a CD drive
[17:09] <patrick_> its strange
[17:10] <Yorvyk> patrick_, got to Edit > Preferences > Volume Management in pcmanfm
[17:10] <Yorvyk> patrick_, are the options there ticked?
[17:11] <patrick_> all is ticked
[17:13] <Yorvyk> patrick_, close that and go to Preferences > Users and Groups > Advanced Settings
[17:14] <Yorvyk> patrick_, User Privileges and scroll down the list to see if Use CD-ROM drives is ticked.
[17:17] <patrick_> its ticked
[17:24] <patrick_> it doesnt work
[17:25] <Yorvyk> patrick_, I’m stumped as those are the only things I’ve seen that prevent the CD-ROM showing in pcmanfm if it’s known to the system
[17:25] <Yorvyk> patrick_, which version og pcmanfm are you using
[17:26] <patrick_> 0.9.7
[17:28] <Yorvyk> patrick_, just a thought as there is a problem with 0.98
[17:29] <Yorvyk> patrick_, if you go to Go > My Computer in pcmanfm does it show there
[17:31] <patrick_> only the disc drive are not show
[17:36] <patrick_> its very strange
[19:31] <JLuc> hello !
[19:44] <JLuc> i have downloaded nautilus through synaptics tool
[19:44] <JLuc> but it doesnt appear anywhere
[19:45] <JLuc> i wanted to try it instead of pcmanfm
[19:45] <JLuc> how could i proceed now ?
[19:47] <bioterror> alt+f2 and type "nautilus" without ""
[19:50] <JLuc> ok its there
[19:51] <JLuc> i'm quite a newcomer to linux :-/
[19:51] <JLuc> how do I create a shortcut on the desktop toward nautilus ?
[19:52] <JLuc> well i'll look on the web for ubuntu's hints
[19:55] <Yorvyk> JLuc, are you using Ubuntu or Lubuntu
[19:55] <JLuc> i"m on lubuntu yes
[19:56] <Yorvyk> So have you installed Nautilus
[19:56] <JLuc> yes it is ok i wanted to try it
[19:57] <JLuc> thanks bioterror for the ALT F2 = exec trick
[19:57] <bioterror> np
[19:57] <JLuc> I have everything to discover so i try
[19:57] <JLuc> and sometime i ask
[19:58] <Yorvyk> OK if you navigate to /usr/share/applications and copy the nautilus.desktop file to desktop
[20:04] <JLuc> i have no nautilus file in this folder
[20:04] <bioterror> look example from another file and make yourself a nautilus one ;)
[20:05] <JLuc> ok i try !
[20:05] <bioterror> you can copy any file
[20:05] <bioterror> rename it to nautilus.desktop
[20:05] <bioterror> and modify it
[20:05] <bioterror> :D
[20:05] <bioterror> like real script kiddies do
[20:05] <JLuc> i dont see the .desktop extension for the files in this folder
[20:05] <JLuc> that'll be another question..
[20:05] <JLuc> ...
[20:06] <Yorvyk> Just looked through the logs and realised if it doesn’t appear in the menu there is no .desktop file
[20:07] <Yorvyk> JLuc, you won’t see the extension unless you change the view to detailed.  they a re all .desktop files in /usr/share/application
[20:08] <JLuc> ok thats easy :-)
[20:10] <JLuc> ermmm
[20:11] <JLuc> the detailled view shows a description of the file type, but doesnt show the extension itself...
[20:11] <JLuc> and when I save to nautilus.desktop it says "allready exists" but i cant see it
[20:11] <JLuc> it seems i dont see the real name of the files
[20:11] <JLuc> there are many "file manager" files
[20:12] <JLuc> one of them might be the nautilus.desktop
[20:13] <JLuc> I got it !
[20:13] <Yorvyk> \o/
[20:13] <JLuc> its strange I can't see the real name of these files !
[20:14] <Yorvyk> .desktop files are like that - they try to hide there true selves  :D
[20:16] <JLuc> ermmm
[20:16] <JLuc> i copied it on the desktop
[20:16] <JLuc> and there again "do you want to overwrite existing file with same name"
[20:17] <JLuc> before answering, a new icon (first on desktop) appeard : file manager
[20:17] <JLuc> i yessed
[20:17] <JLuc> yes'd
[20:17] <JLuc> now i dont understand :
[20:18] <JLuc> the icon launches pcmanfm !
[20:18] <JLuc> and alt F2 nautilus launchs pcmanfm aswell !
[20:19] <JLuc> well...
[20:19] <JLuc> i'll keep keep some more with pcmanfm
[20:19] <JLuc> maybe  lubuntu is less newbee friendly as ubuntu ?
[20:20] <Yorvyk> Yes No Maybe
[20:20] <bioterror> it is
[20:20] <bioterror> but you can handle configuring openbox with text editor, it's okay
[20:21] <Yorvyk> It’s assumed that a Newbie would stick with the default applications
[20:21] <JLuc> ok i can stick with pcmanfm
[20:22] <JLuc> however nautilus seemed to have a search ability
[20:22] <JLuc> Ooah nevermind
[20:24] <Yorvyk> Nautilus does have search but I tend to use 'find'
[20:25] <phillw> Yorvyk: 'locate' is also a good one to master :)
[20:26] <Yorvyk> phillw, yep I keep forgetting that one
[20:26] <bioterror> find / |grep word
[20:27] <bioterror> you dont need that database
[20:27] <phillw> locate == where the blooming heck did I put that file :P
[20:28] <phillw> bioterror: as we have the dayabase, we may as well use it :)
[20:28] <phillw> *dayabase*
[20:28] <phillw> *database*..... Grrrrr...
[20:28] <bioterror> and updatedb requires to have computer open around 3am or something it used to be
[20:29] <phillw> bioterror: as mine is on 24/7, that is not a problem :D
[20:29] <bioterror> well same for me
[20:33] <JLuc> i typed man find and got 10 pages of doc !
[20:33] <bioterror> JLuc, info is okay too, it's more interactive
[20:33] <JLuc> lxterminal
[20:33] <JLuc> oups
[20:34] <JLuc> but couldnt manage to get out of it and had to kill the console...
[20:34] <bioterror> q usually works
[20:34] <JLuc> ah !
[20:35] <JLuc> yesterday i'm glad i managed to add skype into the autostart apps !
[20:35] <JLuc> that was not easy neither
[20:35] <bioterror> hahaha, true dat
[20:35] <bioterror> it could be done a little more easier in lxde
[20:35] <bioterror> or openbox
[20:37] <Yorvyk> Pity skype is down though
[20:39] <JLuc> ok so .deskto files are shortcuts.
[20:39] <JLuc> .desktop
[20:39] <bioterror> yes
[20:39] <bioterror> "launchers"
[20:40] <JLuc> fine
[20:42] <JLuc> well i was wrong : nautilus launches nautilus ok
[20:43] <JLuc> it looks much the same as pcmanfm
[20:43] <JLuc> but there is a search option !
[20:43] <JLuc> in int
[20:43] <JLuc> in it
[20:44] <JLuc> now i have problem installing dropbox
[20:44] <JLuc> there are 2 versions : ubuntu 32 and ubuntu 64
[20:45] <JLuc> in the system profiler i dont see whether it is 32 or 64
[20:46] <JLuc> however there are lots of technical specs appearing there
[20:46] <bioterror> open terminal
[20:46] <bioterror> uname -a
[20:46] <bioterror> if it says i686 it's 32bit
[20:46] <bioterror> if it says amd64, it's 64
[20:46] <JLuc> ok thanks !
[20:47] <JLuc> so i downloaded ubuntu 32
[20:47] <JLuc> its a .deb
[20:47] <bioterror> $ apt-cache search dropbox
[20:47] <bioterror> dropbox - secure backup, sync and sharing util
[20:47] <bioterror> why not use apt-get install dropbox?
[20:48] <JLuc> i dont know these commands
[20:48] <JLuc> i cant get the .deb to launch
[20:48] <JLuc> i try apt-get install dropbox
[20:49] <JLuc> with sudo
[20:49] <bioterror> yes
[20:50] <JLuc> but there is a lock : /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[20:50] <JLuc> not available
[20:51] <Yorvyk> JLuc, do you have synaptic open
[20:51] <JLuc> maybe some other process uses it
[20:51] <JLuc> yes it was
[20:51] <JLuc> i closed it
[20:51] <JLuc> its better now
[20:51] <JLuc> but i guess i must do that in the download directory
[20:54] <JLuc> there is a nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb	file in the dl dir
[20:54] <JLuc> when i sudo apt-get install dropbox
[20:55] <JLuc> it reads the packets ("paquets" in french) ok
[20:55] <JLuc> it reads the states ok
[20:55] <JLuc> but cannot find the dropbox packet
[20:58] <JLuc> amof it might be a plugin for nautilus
[20:59] <JLuc> ok i will follow http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall
[21:00] <JLuc> errrrr
[21:00] <bioterror> take it easy
[21:00] <bioterror> you're rushing now
[21:00] <bioterror> dpkg -L dropbox
[21:01] <bioterror> tells what files it did install
[21:01] <bioterror> and usually from /usr/bin/ you can find executable file
[21:02] <Yorvyk> There should be an entry in the Internet menu which you click to continue the installation
[21:07] <JLuc> no the .deb was very small and didnt install anything it was just a kind of launcher
[21:07] <JLuc> but now i managed to install dropbox
[21:07] <JLuc> using the link page
[21:07] <bioterror> :D
[21:07] <JLuc> it works fine :-)
[21:08] <JLuc> yep
[21:08] <bioterror> dep is like .msi file on windows
[21:08] <bioterror> .deb
[21:10] <JLuc> ok thank you all
[21:10] <JLuc> i manage to do the important things
[21:10] <JLuc> thats what matters
[21:14] <JLuc> Bye !