[01:23] i am downloading lubuntu for the 1st time from the website. i have never used it or onstalled it. it is going into one of my clients manines. is there anything i need to know? i have been using ubuntu along side windows for awhile now. [01:23] installed* [01:24] machines* [01:45] dou recommend 1010 or 1004 [01:53] oh well thanks anyway...here goes 10.10 [04:17] bug #1 [04:17] Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [04:17] * phillw you got to love them bots :D [04:23] well, opensource still lacks something like Exchange and that's the best solution in corporate world [04:24] and we cant talk about evolution and outlook on same day === ProperN[out] is now known as ProperNoun [08:01] Hi! I ma from Kiev, Ukraine [08:02] I want install lubuntu on 8 gb USB stuck for use with Sony Vaio VGN p530N is 8gb enough for normal system & I wan istalk minimum then instal sime extra soft for network [08:11] anybady alive * [08:11] ? === ProperN[out] is now known as ProperNoun [10:28] hi all [10:28] hi [10:29] i need help, where is the update manager in my lubuntu 10.04? [10:29] I think synaptic [10:29] that's the tool [10:29] but ofcourse you can say in terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" [10:29] without "" [10:30] synaptics is the package manager. Is the same thing? [10:30] I mean with the interface [10:31] hi? [10:31] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9016857&postcount=3 [10:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/KeepLubuntuUptoDate [10:34] thanks [10:35] will i install lubuntu 10.10 doing that? [10:35] nope [10:36] ok [10:36] the thing is that I want to do that [10:36] :) [10:36] dont need update manager ? [10:36] think you should do a dist upgrade [10:37] yes [10:37] you on 10.04 now? [10:37] yes [10:37] and want 10.10 [10:37] manfredrasta, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade -d [10:37] ok [10:37] ;) [10:37] should i make a backup first? [10:37] tjena friTTe| [10:37] tjena [10:37] manfredrasta, backup is always good [10:38] friTTe|, and how do i do a backup? Me noob [10:38] hmm well, i only backup when doing reinstallations, save the important stuff to an external or something like that [10:38] like documents and such [10:39] but there are several diferent pure backup programs but ive never used the [10:39] *them [10:39] ok [10:39] the thing is that to make lubuntu working good in my laptop i needed to change the Xorg [10:40] i always try to kjeep stuff i wanna have on another hdd or partition [10:40] cp -Rv /home/username /media/Backup [10:40] that's how I did it last night [10:40] nice [10:41] so fritte [10:41] what have you been upto lately, havent seen you for a while [10:41] we could even use a sentence "we've been missing you" :D [10:41] hehe [10:41] well studying [10:41] and im about to move to another city now in january [10:41] where are you going to move? GOTHborg? [10:42] it would be awesome to live in a city called GOTHborg [10:42] and took the step over to Debian based stuff, so Debian Sid Xfce and Crunchbang is my addicions [10:42] gothenburg [10:42] göteborg [10:42] haha [10:42] götis as we call it [10:42] :D [10:42] yeah, well my city is called Karlskoga, near Örebro [10:42] oh [10:42] skog :D [10:42] 11mil from here, about 1 hour drive [10:43] you and your mil [10:43] yeah [10:43] 11mil = 110km [10:43] yes [10:44] so lifes rolling on finally, start a brand new life [10:44] oh [10:44] you're high on a life [10:44] sort of [10:44] but i need that, been down for a long time and medicated =) [10:45] my turn now [11:02] friTTe|, well, nice to hear [11:02] yeah [11:23] hiyas friTTe|:) [11:25] \o [11:25] friTTe|: pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic :) [15:39] hey guys ... can i work with lubuntu on 512 MB ? [15:40] cobra-the-joker: most certainly can :) [15:41] nice then [15:41] 128MB is about the minimum [15:41] wow ... thats amazing [15:41] what about the cpu ? [15:42] cobra-the-joker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System%20requirements [15:42] cobra-the-joker, if you’ve got ½ gig of RAM anything over 200MHz should be OK [15:42] Hi phillw [15:43] hiyas Yorvyk [15:44] phillw, just seen the email to the list about proof reading the wiki [15:45] cobra-the-joker: it was a decision by the linux kernel team to drop the older processors. It has put extra workload on the developers for Lubuntu, but it was a case that we really had to commit to. [15:45] phillw, who what where should I inform of an erros [15:46] Yorvyk: I'm still in slight shock over how much Zach did. Just reply to the email. [15:46] phillw, some are just trivial typos should I edit them [15:47] Yorvyk: by all means. [15:47] phillw, OK Ta. [15:47] Yorvyk: if you flag it as trivial changes when you go to save, it will stop us getting email alerts :P [15:48] phillw, OK, I’ve spammed myself before with this sort of thing. will do. [16:51] hello i have a big problem. If I insert a CD then Lubuntu doesent show a disc can somebody help me??? [16:52] A cd of what? [16:52] Music? Movie? [16:52] Program [16:52] Ok, program as in? [16:52] We thrive on details my good man [16:53] sorry my english arent so god i try it explain [16:54] if i insert a cd in the computer then Lubuntu doesnt show a disc [16:55] Ok, hmmm [16:55] phillw: any ideas? [16:56] patrick_, which version of Lubuntu are you using [16:57] 10.10 [16:58] patrick_, give me a second while I boot up 10.10 [16:59] ok [16:59] patrick_: it will there via pcmanfm, they do not show on the desktop [17:00] pcmanfm show no disc [17:00] patrick_, on the left hand side in the panel [17:03] pcmanfm does not show a cd drive that's the problem [17:05] only the cd drive will not be displayed [17:05] patrick_, from the menu go to System Tools > System Profiler and Benchmark > Storage [17:07] there is indicated the cd but not in pcmanfm [17:09] patrick_, so the computer knows it’s got a CD drive [17:09] its strange [17:10] patrick_, got to Edit > Preferences > Volume Management in pcmanfm [17:10] patrick_, are the options there ticked? [17:11] all is ticked [17:13] patrick_, close that and go to Preferences > Users and Groups > Advanced Settings [17:14] patrick_, User Privileges and scroll down the list to see if Use CD-ROM drives is ticked. [17:17] its ticked [17:24] it doesnt work [17:25] patrick_, I’m stumped as those are the only things I’ve seen that prevent the CD-ROM showing in pcmanfm if it’s known to the system [17:25] patrick_, which version og pcmanfm are you using [17:26] 0.9.7 [17:28] patrick_, just a thought as there is a problem with 0.98 [17:29] patrick_, if you go to Go > My Computer in pcmanfm does it show there [17:31] only the disc drive are not show [17:36] its very strange [19:31] hello ! [19:44] i have downloaded nautilus through synaptics tool [19:44] but it doesnt appear anywhere [19:45] i wanted to try it instead of pcmanfm [19:45] how could i proceed now ? [19:47] alt+f2 and type "nautilus" without "" [19:50] ok its there [19:51] i'm quite a newcomer to linux :-/ [19:51] how do I create a shortcut on the desktop toward nautilus ? [19:52] well i'll look on the web for ubuntu's hints === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:55] JLuc, are you using Ubuntu or Lubuntu [19:55] i"m on lubuntu yes [19:56] So have you installed Nautilus [19:56] yes it is ok i wanted to try it [19:57] thanks bioterror for the ALT F2 = exec trick [19:57] np [19:57] I have everything to discover so i try [19:57] and sometime i ask [19:58] OK if you navigate to /usr/share/applications and copy the nautilus.desktop file to desktop [20:04] i have no nautilus file in this folder [20:04] look example from another file and make yourself a nautilus one ;) [20:05] ok i try ! [20:05] you can copy any file [20:05] rename it to nautilus.desktop [20:05] and modify it [20:05] :D [20:05] like real script kiddies do [20:05] i dont see the .desktop extension for the files in this folder [20:05] that'll be another question.. [20:05] ... [20:06] Just looked through the logs and realised if it doesn’t appear in the menu there is no .desktop file [20:07] JLuc, you won’t see the extension unless you change the view to detailed. they a re all .desktop files in /usr/share/application [20:08] ok thats easy :-) [20:10] ermmm [20:11] the detailled view shows a description of the file type, but doesnt show the extension itself... [20:11] and when I save to nautilus.desktop it says "allready exists" but i cant see it [20:11] it seems i dont see the real name of the files [20:11] there are many "file manager" files [20:12] one of them might be the nautilus.desktop [20:13] I got it ! [20:13] \o/ [20:13] its strange I can't see the real name of these files ! [20:14] .desktop files are like that - they try to hide there true selves :D [20:16] ermmm [20:16] i copied it on the desktop [20:16] and there again "do you want to overwrite existing file with same name" [20:17] before answering, a new icon (first on desktop) appeard : file manager [20:17] i yessed [20:17] yes'd [20:17] now i dont understand : [20:18] the icon launches pcmanfm ! [20:18] and alt F2 nautilus launchs pcmanfm aswell ! [20:19] well... [20:19] i'll keep keep some more with pcmanfm [20:19] maybe lubuntu is less newbee friendly as ubuntu ? [20:20] Yes No Maybe [20:20] it is [20:20] but you can handle configuring openbox with text editor, it's okay [20:21] It’s assumed that a Newbie would stick with the default applications [20:21] ok i can stick with pcmanfm [20:22] however nautilus seemed to have a search ability [20:22] Ooah nevermind [20:24] Nautilus does have search but I tend to use 'find' [20:25] Yorvyk: 'locate' is also a good one to master :) [20:26] phillw, yep I keep forgetting that one [20:26] find / |grep word [20:27] you dont need that database [20:27] locate == where the blooming heck did I put that file :P [20:28] bioterror: as we have the dayabase, we may as well use it :) [20:28] *dayabase* [20:28] *database*..... Grrrrr... [20:28] and updatedb requires to have computer open around 3am or something it used to be [20:29] bioterror: as mine is on 24/7, that is not a problem :D [20:29] well same for me [20:33] i typed man find and got 10 pages of doc ! [20:33] JLuc, info is okay too, it's more interactive [20:33] lxterminal [20:33] oups [20:34] but couldnt manage to get out of it and had to kill the console... [20:34] q usually works [20:34] ah ! [20:35] yesterday i'm glad i managed to add skype into the autostart apps ! [20:35] that was not easy neither [20:35] hahaha, true dat [20:35] it could be done a little more easier in lxde [20:35] or openbox [20:37] Pity skype is down though [20:39] ok so .deskto files are shortcuts. [20:39] .desktop [20:39] yes [20:39] "launchers" [20:40] fine [20:42] well i was wrong : nautilus launches nautilus ok [20:43] it looks much the same as pcmanfm [20:43] but there is a search option ! [20:43] in int [20:43] in it [20:44] now i have problem installing dropbox [20:44] there are 2 versions : ubuntu 32 and ubuntu 64 [20:45] in the system profiler i dont see whether it is 32 or 64 [20:46] however there are lots of technical specs appearing there [20:46] open terminal [20:46] uname -a [20:46] if it says i686 it's 32bit [20:46] if it says amd64, it's 64 [20:46] ok thanks ! [20:47] so i downloaded ubuntu 32 [20:47] its a .deb [20:47] $ apt-cache search dropbox [20:47] dropbox - secure backup, sync and sharing util [20:47] why not use apt-get install dropbox? [20:48] i dont know these commands [20:48] i cant get the .deb to launch [20:48] i try apt-get install dropbox [20:49] with sudo [20:49] yes [20:50] but there is a lock : /var/lib/dpkg/lock [20:50] not available [20:51] JLuc, do you have synaptic open [20:51] maybe some other process uses it [20:51] yes it was [20:51] i closed it [20:51] its better now [20:51] but i guess i must do that in the download directory [20:54] there is a nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb file in the dl dir [20:54] when i sudo apt-get install dropbox [20:55] it reads the packets ("paquets" in french) ok [20:55] it reads the states ok [20:55] but cannot find the dropbox packet [20:58] amof it might be a plugin for nautilus [20:59] ok i will follow http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall [21:00] errrrr [21:00] take it easy [21:00] you're rushing now [21:00] dpkg -L dropbox [21:01] tells what files it did install [21:01] and usually from /usr/bin/ you can find executable file [21:02] There should be an entry in the Internet menu which you click to continue the installation [21:07] no the .deb was very small and didnt install anything it was just a kind of launcher [21:07] but now i managed to install dropbox [21:07] using the link page [21:07] :D [21:07] it works fine :-) [21:08] yep [21:08] dep is like .msi file on windows [21:08] .deb [21:10] ok thank you all [21:10] i manage to do the important things [21:10] thats what matters [21:14] Bye !