/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/22/#ubuntu-artwork.txt

kwwiigood morning everyone08:20
thorwilgood morning!08:26
kwwiihrm, how does one install the glabl menu on 10.10?08:55
kwwiiglobal, that is08:55
zniavre_via ppa s ?09:10
iainfarrellhey doctormo11:48
iainfarrellhow's it going?11:48
coz_good day all14:26
darkmatterhideyho neighbour coz_14:35
coz_darkmatter,  hey guy   ..good morning :)14:36
darkmatteris now. wasn't when I first got up and almost broke my face. lol ;P14:36
coz_:)  yikes!   what did you do ?14:37
darkmatterthankfully I still have decent reflexes xD14:37
vishdoctormo: hey, http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/ open ID login seems broken.. is it a known issue?14:37
vish"/srv/www/art.ubuntu-owl.org/htdocs/cchost_lib/ccextras/cc-openid-helpers.inc"(35): Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated [2010-12-22 14:36 pm][MYIP ADDY][/login/openid]14:38
darkmattercoz_: overslept. change in weather/sleeping "wrong" or whatever left my back (and thus legs) nonfunctional. fell off/out14:38
vishdoctormo: thats the error i get^14:38
coz_darkmatter,  oooo been there guy :)14:38
vishdoctormo: login itself seems broken.. is that something we need to poke pleia2 about?14:42
coz_early lunch be back in a bit15:31
thorwilcoz_: how was the lunch and when will be late lunch?16:56
coz_thorwil,  :)  lunch was fine... and late lunche aroung 1pm  :)16:57
coz_actually I meand " late lunch around 1pm"  damn fingers17:01
coz_ok be back in about an hour or so17:02
vishis anyone able to login to the fonttest ?17:26
vishhttp://fonttest.design.canonical.com/ ?17:26
dakervish, it's working17:29
vishbah!17:29
vishdaker: could you get me a screenshot of font " ₹   "  regular in size 10 and 11 ?17:30
vishusing the default ambiance theme?17:30
dakerok wait17:30
vishdaker: are you able to login to http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/  using openid as well?17:32
* vish frowns at FF417:32
dakeri'll test17:32
dakervish, i am using chromuim17:33
vishyea.. might be something messed up with the daily build..17:33
dakervish, i am not able to login17:34
daker"/srv/www/art.ubuntu-owl.org/htdocs/cchost_lib/ccextras/cc-openid-helpers.inc"(35): Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated [2010-12-22 17:33 pm][41.248.151.89][/login/openid]17:34
vishdoctormo: ^17:34
vishdaker: thanks.. so it's not me alone.. :)17:34
vishdaker: nevermind the screenshots.. i was able to login using FF3.717:36
vishdaker: thanks for testing.. :)17:36
dakeryw17:36
vishthorwil: nope.. people just dont read specs ;)17:38
vishthe new SC design proposed is a total overhaul!17:38
thorwilvish: we need specs that read themselves to people! mwuhahhaha!17:40
daker\o/17:42
* vish thought i'd add the tasks page to the topic and then meh.. :s17:55
vishdoctormo: around?18:27
doctormovish: hi vish18:28
vishdoctormo: hi, so did you happen to catch the scrollback yesterday? the one with iain?18:29
doctormono18:29
vishdoctormo: they want to use the  http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/ for illustrations18:29
doctormosounds good18:30
vishdoctormo: and wanted to know is tagging was possible18:30
doctormohave any of you used owl yet?18:30
vishyes..18:30
vishdoctormo: but i could not login today and say positively.. but i told that i did remember it was possible18:30
vishor we could add the feature if we wanted..18:30
doctormohttp://art.ubuntu-owl.org/people/doctormo18:30
doctormoThe way tagging works is thusly18:31
vish "/srv/www/art.ubuntu-owl.org/htdocs/cchost_lib/ccextras/cc-openid-helpers.inc"(35): Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated [2010-12-22 17:33 pm][41.248.151.89][/login/openid]18:31
vishthats, the error we are getting with open ID18:31
doctormoWe create a type of upload, say "Wallpapers" and we specify as admins what tags should automatically be added to entries added in that way.18:31
doctormoSo we can keep track of things in a certain category18:32
doctormoAnd users don't need to remember to add them18:32
doctormoBut, users can add any of their own tags on upload.18:32
vishyea.. and mods can edit the tags too right?18:32
vishmods/admins..18:32
doctormovish: yes, I'm fixing that error, one second18:36
vishcool.. :)18:36
thorwilas coz_ pointed out 'illustrations' is not the right term, when what we really are looking for is non-photographic work (or heavily edited photos and collages, perhaps18:39
thorwilbest single term proposed so far is "compositions"18:41
doctormoAny reason to limit the degree away from photographs in definition?18:43
thorwildoctormo: plain photography is already covered with that huge flickr pool18:44
doctormothorwil: This isn't about existing pools, it's about a definition of what will be acceptable in this new pool18:44
thorwiland paintings, drawings, 3d renderings ... is a long list18:45
vishi dint catch that discussion yesterday.. but http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illustration18:45
thorwilso single-shot photos are the one thing to exclude18:46
doctormovish: ok looks like openid won't be working. I've taken out the errors, but now it does nothing and that's about as far as my php goes.18:46
doctormoyou can still log in though18:46
* vish tries again..18:47
doctormovish: you'll have to register as you don't yet have a user... I think.18:49
vishdoctormo: hmm, seems so.. my open id account had admin privs too..18:49
vishdoctormo: cant we fix that?18:50
vishi mean is there anyone we can ask?18:50
doctormothorwil: Interestingly the firefox svg renderer is now much better than imagemagik, so having png thumbnails is worse than just popping the svg in there.18:50
vishdoctormo: if we are having trouble, and we cant find anyone to have a look at it..  we can ask richardlee (from design team) who looks after their design site to have a look at it..18:51
doctormovish: I don't think there is much we can do, cchost has a lot of great ideas and the data integrity of the backend is good. But the code is aweful and the code is php which is a devil.18:51
vishhmm..18:51
* doctormo dislikes php and so is biased.18:51
vishoh i think daker likes php!18:52
vishhe is not around now..18:52
doctormovish: for now I've given you a fixed password18:53
* thorwil dislikes php and thinks that's because of a "programming languages should be designed, not cobbled together" bias18:54
vishdoctormo: i'm in \o/18:54
doctormogood18:57
doctormothorwil: I didn't know you were a wizard of the Turing art18:57
thorwilheh18:58
thorwildoctormo: not that i currently could manage to do anything useful with them, but smalltalk, lisp and haskell appeal to my sense of beauty. where php is far on the other side19:00
doctormothorwil: Done any perl code poetry?19:01
thorwilnope. just yesterday i had a look at perl basics and was put off by its modality19:02
vishhrmm, when trying to view ..files/user/#  i get these errors..  "cchost.js (5): SyntaxError: unterminated regular expression literal"19:03
vishha, daker is here..!19:04
dakervish, ?19:05
vishdaker: you like php right?19:05
dakerit depends ツ19:05
vishdaker: well, we were having problems in the artowl and it's open id.. so looking for someone who can look into it.. ;)19:06
dakervish, i'll be back in less than 1 hour then we can see ツ19:07
vish;)19:07
vishthere are too many headers and kinda confusing right now.. thorwil / doctormo any suggestions to cleanup those headers?19:12
vish /home is a deadspace..19:13
thorwilvish: perhaps one start page that could contain news, status, picks. can be called "Home"19:16
thorwiland then just "Assets" and maybe "People"19:16
doctormovish: The cchost was moved from php4 to php5 by force, pliea2 did an upgrade to lucid on her server and we're stuck with php5 now.19:16
vishdoctormo: so, no possibility of fixing that openID ?  then we should remove the option atleast..19:17
doctormovish: It's beyond my ability at the moment.19:18
doctormoBut someone else might.19:18
doctormoIt's all on launchpad19:18
vishcool..19:18
doctormohttps://code.launchpad.net/~owlers/ubuntu-learning-materials/art-website19:19
doctormoIt's got a sync too, so when code is pushed in the website should get updated19:19
thorwiltry a call for help on ubuntu-artwork or maybe better ubuntu-web list?19:20
vishyea..  daker said he'd be back in an hour.. or if not we can ask iain to get richard to look at it.. if all else fails, then we could use the list..19:21
vishdoctormo / thorwil: we could give richard an admin access and he'd proabably help getting it setup for the submissions too19:22
doctormovish: Sure, can you give access from your admin account?19:30
vishdoctormo: yea, i guess.. but wanted to ask first. i'd have to talk to iain tomorrow again..19:32
dakervish, back!19:44
dakerwhat's the problem ?19:44
vishdaker: so the artowl code is here > https://code.launchpad.net/~owlers/ubuntu-learning-materials/art-website19:45
vishdaker: we cant use OpenID to login right now..19:45
dakeraie19:45
vishdaker: the error you kept getting..19:45
vishdaker: so <doctormo> vish: ok looks like openid won't be working. I've taken out the errors, but now it does nothing and that's about as far as my php goes.19:46
vishdaker: right now, we either need to fix that error or not offer open id for login..19:46
dakerok19:46
vishfixing is always better ;)19:46
dakeri'll see what i can do19:46
vishdaker: thanks.19:47
dakerdoctormo, vish  what does owl mean ?19:49
vishdaker: it was the name for the learning site19:49
vishdaker: the Ubuntu learning material19:49
vishi think it has the owl logo as well..19:50
doctormodaker: https://code.launchpad.net/~owlers/ubuntu-learning-materials/art-website as deployed on http://art.ubuntu-owl.com19:50
dakerdoctormo, ok19:51
dakerdoctormo, can you check the apache logs and paste it somewhere ?20:00
daker!logs20:06
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doctormodaker: apache logs? will they contain useful php stuff?20:45
dakerdoctormo, if there was an error if should appear in the apache logs20:46
dakers/if/it20:46
doctormoI will have to ask to make sure it's ok to transmit them.20:47
dakerdoctormo, i don't want all the logs, just try to login using the openid then transmit the correspondent lined from the logs20:50
dakers/lined/lines20:51

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