[06:26] hola jono [06:47] hey dholbach :-) [08:00] good morning all [08:02] hola dpm [08:03] dpm, are you playing for "el gordo" today? [08:04] dholbach, :) no, I do not play lottery [08:04] dpm, what? everybody in Spain plays [08:05] I'm on my way to sabotaging that, then :) [08:05] ok, no surprise [08:05] :) [08:19] hello all [10:09] quiet this morning <.< >.> [10:09] everyone must be hard at work :) [10:22] hey duanedesign, yeah, wrapping everything up before holidays :) [10:31] duanedesign, im not, im just having such an awesome day :) [10:35] dpm: nice. Hope you have a nice holiday. [10:43] thanks :) [10:43] you too! [10:55] hrm, can anyone tell me where to find info on getting stuff into the partner repo? and the repo where you can sell stuff? so far, I fail... [11:39] Aloha [11:39] jussi: i have this in my bookmarks --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviews [11:39] * duanedesign waves at czajkowski [11:40] hey! [11:43] czajkowski: you at home yet (or where you were going)? /me seems to remember you were having traveling diffuculties [11:45] aye got home last night [11:45] 107.5 hours travelling [11:45] wow [11:47] doctormo: ping pt.2 [11:48] * duanedesign needs to review the CoC screencast and see if any parts i should replace. Need to get that 'published' [12:49] dholbach: did you have some stuff that can start being made into screencasts? [12:51] duanedesign, what do you think about the stuff in http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/guide/? [12:52] im getting my 'how to sign CoC' screencast uploaded now [12:56] hmm empathy wont connect on my home connection [12:57] duanedesign, sweet! [13:07] dholbach: lots of good stuff in 'Getting Set Up' that would make great screencasts. [13:07] I'm glad you say that :) [13:12] duanedesign: hi.. afaik, that appreviews is only for the extras ubuntu archive, but looks like jussi is looking for the canonical partner archive.. and there seems to be no documentation for that.. last i heard was 'ask mvo' was the closest ans we get for that archive ;) [13:12] vish: yeah, you are right. [13:13] I was hoping there was something on canonicals website, but finding not much atm [13:14] * jussi goes to see if mvo is active... [13:15] jussi: yea, no one knows about that, kinda mystery there ;) i forgot who was the last person who asked that... but once you have some info a wiki with the info would be nice ;) [13:16] oh yea, the OMGGamer guys.. they wanted to get some game in there [13:20] anyone know if its possible to install Ubuntu to an external hard drive and boot from it? [13:21] nisshh: yup, it's possible. and you have to just modify the grub too [13:21] vish, oh right, i figured it was similar to a pendrive install [13:23] vish, are there any docs for doing it? [13:27] vish, ? [13:47] nisshh: yea, there are.. i'v seen them but i'd have to google for it too :) [13:47] vish, ive been googling for the last 30 minutes, i cant find it :) [13:48] * vish joins in the google fun ;) [13:48] heh [13:50] nisshh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing%20on%20external%20or%20RAID%20hard%20disks [13:53] nisshh: thats the one with all other options , this is more specific to you i guess : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB i havent tired it recently.. last time i did it was for a Xubuntu install nearly more than a yr ago.. [13:54] vish, so do a standard install the the external drive and then find and boot it with grub? [13:55] nisshh: yea, you just need to edit the grub options too, to find the right disk.. [13:55] vish, right [13:56] vish, the person im helping has vista on her PC, so she wont have access to a grub prompt, any ideas? [13:57] nisshh: you can install grub on the main drive, it will add the windows option too [13:58] vish, oh, ok, how do i do that though? [13:58] * vish googles again.. ;) [13:58] lol [13:58] vish, i could get her to dual boot vista and ubuntu? [13:58] yup.. [13:59] and then she will have grub installed and can do it from there [13:59] nisshh: one simpler thing would also be to edit the BIOS options.. [14:00] nisshh: there you can set the BIOS to detect the external drive first and if plugged in, it will boot Ubuntu [14:00] vish, yeah, this person did that, but she got an "unrecognised drive" error when booting [14:00] nisshh: if not it will boot vista. [14:00] hrm.. [14:00] i know, i thought that would work too [14:00] vish, it may have been that she didnt have grub installed on the external though [14:01] nisshh: but the installer installs the grub too.. did you ask to install again.? probably folks in #ubuntu would know more about this problem? might be more common [14:02] vish, i dont think so, i think you have to choose to during partitioning or something [14:02] vish, thanks for the help anyway, ill get her to try some things [14:02] nisshh: nah, unless they choose something wrong, it should install grub.. [14:02] nisshh: np.. [14:03] yeah, thats what im thinking, but i think she did something funky with it [14:04] * duanedesign wonders if popey is around. [14:05] nisshh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot/ExternalHardDisk?highlight=%28\bCategoryBootAndPartition\b%29 the closest i could find.. [14:06] thanks vish [14:06] * nisshh hugs vish [14:07] :) [15:58] hey jono [15:59] I am ready! [15:59] jono, mumble? skype? [15:59] hey [15:59] * dholbach hugs jcastro, (absent) kim0, dpm, jono [15:59] dholbach, dpm, jcastro skype in 2m [15:59] just finishing off a coffee [15:59] ok, logging in [15:59] * dholbach moves to a more quiet place... without family around [16:00] wooo! [16:00] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [16:00] | | | | __ _ _ __ _ __ _ _ | | | | ___ | (_) __| | __ _ _ _ ___| | [16:00] | |_| |/ _` | '_ \| '_ \| | | | | |_| |/ _ \| | |/ _` |/ _` | | | / __| | [16:00] | _ | (_| | |_) | |_) | |_| | | _ | (_) | | | (_| | (_| | |_| \__ \_| [16:00] |_| |_|\__,_| .__/| .__/ \__, | |_| |_|\___/|_|_|\__,_|\__,_|\__, |___(_) [16:00] |_| |_| |___/ |___/ [16:00] * jcastro runs from the IRC police [16:00] :-D [16:01] finally have an Ubuntu user who lives in the same state as me! [16:01] jussi, OVER THERE! A PINK ELEPHANT! [16:01] thats two Ubuntu users! [16:01] lol [16:01] ;) [16:01] hehe [16:01] That is better [16:02] dholbach_, jcastro, can you guys see me on skype? It seems I'm logged it, but the login thingy keeps spinning [16:03] dpm, same here === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [16:03] dholbach, dpm, jcastro alright, let's roll [16:03] me too [16:03] jono, ^ [16:03] * jono waits for Skype to log in [16:04] serious skype screwage [16:04] ah there it goes [16:04] seems it doesn't work for anyone of us [16:04] took like 45 seconds [16:04] strange [16:04] let's try mumble [16:05] logged in! [16:05] (mumble :-P) [16:05] no luck here yet :( [16:05] one sec, I need to move my mic/speakers [16:05] I'll restart it [16:07] login thing still spinning... [16:07] dpm, for mumble? [16:07] dpm, we are n mumble [16:07] dpm: we're trying mumble now [16:07] jono: I can't hear you [16:07] jcastro, can you hear us? [16:07] hrmpf [16:08] dpm: got a sec? [16:09] jussi, sure, but after our team call ^ [16:10] dpm: see PM :) [16:10] (answer at will) [16:27] <--- LUNCH TIME FOR ME. [16:27] high five everyone [16:27] according to the internet Skype was down worldwide for 10-15 minutes [16:27] see what we caused? [16:27] jcastro, I blame Holbach [16:32] or in case of doubt, blame the manager [16:33] dpm, always :) [16:34] * dpm hugs jono to make sure not to get fired [17:04] ok my friends - I'm going to call it a day [17:04] see you all tomorrow [17:25] jcastro: I *think* eeeBotu is now sane. Please ping me if it goes berserk again [17:34] ;] [18:00] hggdh: heh ok, thanks [18:03] I'm starting to wonder if the cal command was broken in Lucid, it's doing odd things now. [18:03] and I have no idea where a bug report might be put. [18:09] doctormo: bsdmainutils [18:09] thanks hggdh [18:09] yw [18:11] I don't suppose anyone is using Jaunty and can do a quick test for me? [18:15] Oh dear I'm going through some of the existing bugs reported and they're all still there, cal and ncal should probably be removed as they're broken in very scary ways. [18:17] jono: sorry missed call yesterday was travelling and completely forgot to let you know. [18:17] czajkowski: it's ok we vouched for you [18:18] "she is in travel hell." [18:18] "she is in a tardis" [18:18] jcastro: thank you [18:18] * czajkowski hugs jcastro [18:18] "I believe she is in another space-time continuum" [18:19] czajkowski, no worries! [18:19] *grin* it definately felt like it [18:19] 107.5hrs door to door. [18:19] some of my mates are still stuck in UK [18:19] house mate is stuck in cuba [18:21] "sorry I was late to the call, I was taking the ring to Mordor." [18:22] I'd have been warmer there. [18:22] spent the entire day today catching up on sleep [18:22] feel alot more human [18:22] I did get re approval mails out when stuck at the airport :) [18:25] * czajkowski stabs planet ubuntu [19:05] I see jono's buddy sebsebseb is back [19:07] that name rings a bell [19:08] he's the guy that spends 90% of the time flaming Ubuntu except when we have IRC events and chats, then he hogs all the questions [19:09] then if you don't answer his question right away he starts throwing a temper tantrum [19:09] I generally blamepopey for all of this [19:10] http://blogs.skype.com/en/2010/12/skype_downtime_today.html?cm_mmc=PXTW|0700_B6-_-downtime-20101222 [19:10] jcastro: what event are we having now? .. the funny part is, he doesnt use Ubuntu even ;p [19:10] vish: I'm watching jono on ustream [19:11] ah! [19:15] jcastro, i stopped watching jono's ustream, too many silly questions being asked [19:16] havent any of these people heard of google? [19:20] or ask ubuntu [19:20] doctormo, oh that, yes :) [19:20] well, I'm glad he's doing it so we don't have to [19:20] heh [19:20] jcastro, oh man, thats a low blow :) [19:21] heh [19:21] some of them were even asked last time [19:21] what I don't get is where people come up with some of these questions [19:21] how sad is that? [19:21] it's like "I heard from somewhere that Unity is made of unicorns, is that true?" [19:21] yeah [19:22] jcastro, its the news blogs/social media rumors [19:22] blame them [19:22] yeah but some of them are just so out there ... [19:22] they give newbies a mindset about stuff [19:22] jcastro, give an example? [19:23] nisshh: a bunch of these [19:23] yeah [19:23] I find some of the questions are not really ubuntu realted and not really community questions, but I still think it gives an outlet to some people to get an answer they normally wouldnt get elsewhere [19:23] ^^^ true dat [19:24] czajkowski, +1 [19:24] and jono is good at it and able to field the questions well [19:24] ah, a humble bundle question, finally, something good! [19:24] heh, i tuned in one episode and someone asked how jono was hung! :/ jono did give back a good reply/whacking but didnt look back since then ;p [19:24] well, he has had the practice :) [19:24] vish: trolls everywhere more on irc [19:25] kinda stupid to ask such redundant questions.. even for a troll. ;) [19:26] means diddly squat to a troll vish [19:28] hehe [19:28] vish, 80% of the questions being asked there are redundant, its rediculous [19:29] hehe, i had been to the recording of the Late Show and before the show they mention a bunch of rules how be react during recording and in the end the guy says : "but there is always this one guy" [19:29] s/how be/how to* [19:30] vish, hehe, there is always "this one guy" :) [19:30] yea.. it's just like that, there is just one guy to ruin it all.. since until that moment the show was nice and all, and he kept on persisting.. [19:31] vish, youve lost me now, im not watching the ustream, so i dont know whats happening :) [19:31] nisshh: vish yer missing the point, these people do have questions, and jono is answering them, that will help in the long run. [19:32] czajkowski , nisshh: nah, not mentioning about today's show.. just recalling the last show i watched.. :) [19:32] czajkowski, true, it will, but 80% of those same questions will be asked next time, when a simple google search is needed [19:32] vish, ah ok [19:32] nisshh: people want to hear someone tell them, it's liek going to a shop and buying a book, someone people like the interaction rather then buying the same book online [19:34] czajkowski, yeah [19:34] I did bat a question at the humble bundle guys about getting all the games into the software center. [19:34] I can't believe we don't even have the first games which were open sourced in there. [19:35] I find jono's ability to pronounce czajkowski properly impressive [19:35] lol!! [19:35] I butcher it regularly [19:35] jcastro: years of practice :) [19:35] I first met jono back in 2007 [19:36] for some odd reason it reminds me of "swarovski" [19:36] Chi Kov Ski :) [19:37] Just think: tea mint holiday [19:38] or is it chi as in Ché [19:39] jcastro: got the link to the ARM machine that ogra showed at uds [19:51] toshiba ac100 czajkowski [19:51] speaking of pronunciations.. http://www.businessinsider.com/motorolas-android-tablet-name-xoom-2010-12 [19:51] popey: danke [19:51] "We have to say, "Xoom" doesn't really grab us. We have no idea how to pronounce it. [19:52] Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/motorolas-android-tablet-name-xoom-2010-12?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Falleyinsider%2Fsilicon_alley_insider+%28Silicon+Alley+Insider%29&utm_content=Google+Reader#ixzz18s7x8UFz" [19:52] oops [19:52] thats annoying [19:52] how can the guy not know how to pronounce 'xoom' [19:53] right movie in bed time [19:53] nn folks [20:43] Is anyone here on diaspora? [20:43] jussi, yeah :) [20:43] nisshh: jussi01 ;) [20:43] * nisshh searches and adds [20:44] nisshh: you can put me into the "those people who I would normally block" aspect :P [20:44] haha [20:44] jussi, no, your in the "why? just why?" aspect :) [20:44] hehe [20:45] jussi, added [20:45] nisshh: also, could you confirm notifications never go away ? I assume its a bug... [20:45] jussi, yeah, i posted feedback to them about that [20:45] excellent [20:46] they replied really fast [20:46] apparently its just really clunky still [20:46] anyone else here with diaspora is more than welcome to add me [20:46] but if you click the notification icon next to search [20:46] and then click each grey notification [20:46] they are marked as 'read' [20:47] aaahhh [20:47] so i submitted an 'idea' to them about making it nicer to mark notifications as 'read' :) [20:47] like a button or something [20:48] jussi, just curious, what aspects do you have? [20:48] family, ubuntu and work... so far [20:48] ah ok [20:49] i just have LoCo and IRC on there :) [20:52] jussi, also, apparently a 'pm this user' feature is also in the works, which is good [20:55] ahh, nice [20:56] jussi, in the 'ideas' pool for diaspora, 90% of the ideas are "make this more like facebook" :) [20:57] hah [20:57] i just went *facepalm* :) [20:57] so just use facebook [20:57] simple [20:57] :) [20:57] czajkowski, thats exactly what i thought :) [20:57] silly people can just go back to facebook [20:58] well I disagree - wht lots of people want is facebook, but with the privacy stuff. [20:58] nisshh: never call people silly for wanting stuff done a certain way. Otherwise lotta open source folks could be put in that category. Good to have choice [20:58] jussi: you disagree.......... never surely not [20:58] czajkowski, heh, very true :) [20:58] czajkowski: watch it... [20:59] :D [21:00] man my body clock is screwed, its 5am and it feels like 4pm :) [21:00] haha... go to take a nap then... :D [21:01] jussi, yeah, im just doing a few little things then im down for 12 hours :) [21:01] been awake for two days now :) [21:02] nisshh: go.... [21:02] jussi, hehe :) [21:05] why dont folks believe me when I say wolverhampton is nice [21:05] bah no jfo again [21:12] I know, I miss him too [21:18] jono: "3D support: fixed Unity/Compiz crashes on natty" [21:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8XjIkdUQns&feature=channel funky [21:18] looks like Virtualbox 4.0 can run Unity [21:18] just came out today [21:18] I cannot confirm though [21:19] jcastro, it's fixed? [21:19] someone is claiming it runs great [21:19] but this just came out like right now [21:22] Have to say I love community folks at times. Just replying to all the offers I got of places to stay for xmas or be collected from airports or other areas I could get to so they could drive me to ferry. most of the people I'd never met before. [21:24] I never get a chance, no one comes to Detroit [21:25] oh next time I go to canada I'll go via Detroit so I can avoid O'Hare ! [21:25] evil airport [21:27] jcastro: Come by Chicago ;) [21:27] jcastro: you can have some of mine, I live next to the biggest convention center in san francisco, my home sometimes is a bit of a flop house :) [21:27] heh [21:28] pleia2: does that mean my invite is in the water eh !:) [21:28] czajkowski: you are always welcome! assuming you can deal with the cat situation :) [21:29] oh yeah, pleia2 the Crazy Cat Lady :) [21:29] I only have 2! [21:29] *grin* [21:29] that's how it starts! [21:29] more than one makes you the Crazy Cat Lady :) [21:30] jcastro, exactly :) [21:30] nisshh: That makes my gf a crazy cat lady ;) [21:31] nhandler, hehe, dont let her hear you say that :) [21:31] * AlanBell wonders what three chickens means [21:32] AlanBell: It means you are all set for a good dinner ;) [21:35] AlanBell: it means you had a lot of extra kubuntu CDs lying around === JFo is now known as JFo-vacation [22:25] JFo-vacation: whoo [22:26] woo woo! [22:27] JFo-vacation: your presence was missed [22:35] so I see [22:35] the crickets were lonely :) [22:35] well there was noise a while ago [22:35] then I got amused on twitter and listening to @uupc [22:39] well more the banter between sil tony and Pendulum [22:39] ah [22:40] I've been working on my pig sty of a house [22:40] popey: great show [22:40] http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/12/22/s03e23-departure-of-a-grand-old-man/ [22:40] likeing the xmas story [22:41] * daker is listening to Jesse Cook - Dance of Spring [22:50] JFo-vacation: so what you up to? [22:51] taking a break for now from trying to clean my house up [22:51] place is a mess [22:52] one of them jobs people put off but needs to be done [22:52] yeah [22:52] and I put it off too long [22:52] I buy tons of stuff and never throw out the boxes [22:52] so I have stuff piled up [22:53] you a horder :p [22:53] \o/ we get a 2 table booth at FOSDEM [22:53] no, just a failure on my part to throw away packaging [22:53] so the boxes and wrapping piles up for a bit before I throw it out [22:57] JanC: excellent [22:57] we were a bit squashed last year if I can help again let me know [22:58] JFo-vacation: all set for xmas? [22:58] not really [22:58] :) [23:00] tl [23:00] tl l [23:01] tomorrow is shopping day!