[06:26] <dholbach> hola jono
[06:47] <jono> hey dholbach :-)
[08:00] <dpm> good morning all
[08:02] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:03] <dholbach> dpm, are you playing for "el gordo" today?
[08:04] <dpm> dholbach, :) no, I do not play lottery
[08:04] <dholbach> dpm, what? everybody in Spain plays
[08:05] <dpm> I'm on my way to sabotaging that, then :)
[08:05] <dholbach> ok, no surprise
[08:05] <dpm> :)
[08:19] <duanedesign> hello all
[10:09] <duanedesign> quiet this morning <.<  >.>
[10:09] <duanedesign> everyone must be hard at work :)
[10:22] <dpm> hey duanedesign, yeah, wrapping everything up before holidays :)
[10:31] <nisshh> duanedesign, im not, im just having such an awesome day :)
[10:35] <duanedesign> dpm: nice. Hope you have a nice  holiday.
[10:43] <dpm> thanks :)
[10:43] <dpm> you too!
[10:55] <jussi> hrm, can anyone tell me where to find info on getting stuff into the partner repo? and the repo where you can sell stuff? so far, I fail...
[11:39] <czajkowski> Aloha
[11:39] <duanedesign> jussi: i have this in my bookmarks --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviews
[11:39]  * duanedesign waves at czajkowski 
[11:40] <czajkowski> hey!
[11:43] <duanedesign> czajkowski: you at home yet (or where you were going)? /me seems to remember you were having traveling diffuculties
[11:45] <czajkowski> aye got home last night
[11:45] <czajkowski> 107.5 hours travelling
[11:45] <duanedesign> wow
[11:47] <duanedesign> doctormo: ping pt.2
[11:48]  * duanedesign needs to review the CoC screencast and see if any parts i should replace. Need to get that 'published'
[12:49] <duanedesign> dholbach: did you have some stuff that can start being made into screencasts?
[12:51] <dholbach> duanedesign, what do you think about the stuff in http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/guide/?
[12:52] <duanedesign> im getting my 'how to sign CoC' screencast uploaded now
[12:56] <czajkowski> hmm empathy wont connect on my home connection
[12:57] <dholbach> duanedesign, sweet!
[13:07] <duanedesign> dholbach: lots of good stuff in 'Getting Set Up' that would make great screencasts.
[13:07] <dholbach> I'm glad you say that :)
[13:12] <vish> duanedesign: hi.. afaik, that appreviews is only for the extras ubuntu archive, but looks like jussi is looking for the canonical partner archive.. and there seems to be no documentation for that.. last i heard was 'ask mvo' was the closest ans we get for that archive ;)
[13:12] <jussi> vish: yeah, you are right.
[13:13] <jussi> I was hoping there was something on canonicals website, but finding not much atm
[13:14]  * jussi goes to see if mvo is active...
[13:15] <vish> jussi: yea, no one knows about that, kinda mystery there ;)   i forgot who was the last person who asked that... but once you have some info a wiki with the info would be nice ;)
[13:16] <vish> oh yea, the OMGGamer guys.. they wanted to get some game in there
[13:20] <nisshh> anyone know if its possible to install Ubuntu to an external hard drive and boot from it?
[13:21] <vish> nisshh: yup, it's possible. and you have to just modify the grub too
[13:21] <nisshh> vish, oh right, i figured it was similar to a pendrive install
[13:23] <nisshh> vish, are there any docs for doing it?
[13:27] <nisshh> vish, ?
[13:47] <vish> nisshh: yea, there are.. i'v seen them but i'd have to google for it too :)
[13:47] <nisshh> vish, ive been googling for the last 30 minutes, i cant find it :)
[13:48]  * vish joins in the google fun ;)
[13:48] <nisshh> heh
[13:50] <vish> nisshh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing%20on%20external%20or%20RAID%20hard%20disks
[13:53] <vish> nisshh: thats the one with all other options , this is more specific to you i guess : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB  i havent tired it recently.. last time i did it was for a Xubuntu install nearly more than a yr ago..
[13:54] <nisshh> vish, so do a standard install the the external drive and then find and boot it with grub?
[13:55] <vish> nisshh: yea, you just need to edit the grub options too, to find the right disk..
[13:55] <nisshh> vish, right
[13:56] <nisshh> vish, the person im helping has vista on her PC, so she wont have access to a grub prompt, any ideas?
[13:57] <vish> nisshh: you can install grub on the main drive, it will add the windows option too
[13:58] <nisshh> vish, oh, ok, how do i do that though?
[13:58]  * vish googles again.. ;)
[13:58] <nisshh> lol
[13:58] <nisshh> vish, i could get her to dual boot vista and ubuntu?
[13:58] <vish> yup..
[13:59] <nisshh> and then she will have grub installed and can do it from there
[13:59] <vish> nisshh: one simpler thing would also be to edit the BIOS options..
[14:00] <vish> nisshh: there you can set the BIOS to detect the external drive first and if plugged in, it will boot Ubuntu
[14:00] <nisshh> vish, yeah, this person did that, but she got an "unrecognised drive" error when booting
[14:00] <vish> nisshh: if not it will boot vista.
[14:00] <vish> hrm..
[14:00] <nisshh> i know, i thought that would work too
[14:00] <nisshh> vish, it may have been that she didnt have grub installed on the external though
[14:01] <vish> nisshh: but the installer installs the grub too.. did you ask to install again.?  probably folks in #ubuntu would know more about this problem? might be more common
[14:02] <nisshh> vish, i dont think so, i think you have to choose to during partitioning or something
[14:02] <nisshh> vish, thanks for the help anyway, ill get her to try some things
[14:02] <vish> nisshh: nah, unless they choose something wrong, it should install grub..
[14:02] <vish> nisshh: np..
[14:03] <nisshh> yeah, thats what im thinking, but i think she did something funky with it
[14:04]  * duanedesign wonders if popey is around.
[14:05] <vish> nisshh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot/ExternalHardDisk?highlight=%28\bCategoryBootAndPartition\b%29  the closest i could find..
[14:06] <nisshh> thanks vish
[14:06]  * nisshh hugs vish
[14:07] <vish> :)
[15:58] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:59] <jcastro> I am ready!
[15:59] <dholbach> jono, mumble? skype?
[15:59] <jono> hey
[15:59]  * dholbach hugs jcastro, (absent) kim0, dpm, jono
[15:59] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro skype in 2m
[15:59] <jono> just finishing off a coffee
[15:59] <dpm> ok, logging in
[15:59]  * dholbach moves to a more quiet place... without family around
[16:00] <nisshh> wooo!
[16:00] <jcastro>  _   _                           _   _       _ _     _                 _
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[16:00] <jcastro> |  _  | (_| | |_) | |_) | |_| | |  _  | (_) | | | (_| | (_| | |_| \__ \_|
[16:00] <jcastro> |_| |_|\__,_| .__/| .__/ \__, | |_| |_|\___/|_|_|\__,_|\__,_|\__, |___(_)
[16:00] <jcastro>             |_|   |_|    |___/                               |___/
[16:00]  * jcastro runs from the IRC police
[16:00] <dholbach> :-D
[16:01] <nisshh> finally have an Ubuntu user who lives in the same state as me!
[16:01] <dholbach> jussi, OVER THERE! A PINK ELEPHANT!
[16:01] <nisshh> thats two Ubuntu users!
[16:01] <nisshh> lol
[16:01] <nhandler> ;)
[16:01] <nisshh> hehe
[16:01] <nhandler> That is better
[16:02] <dpm> dholbach_, jcastro, can you guys see me on skype? It seems I'm logged it, but the login thingy keeps spinning
[16:03] <dholbach_> dpm, same here
[16:03] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro alright, let's roll
[16:03] <jcastro> me too
[16:03] <dholbach> jono, ^
[16:03]  * jono waits for Skype to log in
[16:04] <dholbach> serious skype screwage
[16:04] <jcastro> ah there it goes
[16:04] <dholbach> seems it doesn't work for anyone of us
[16:04] <jcastro> took like 45 seconds
[16:04] <jono> strange
[16:04] <jono> let's try mumble
[16:05] <dholbach> logged in!
[16:05] <dholbach> (mumble :-P)
[16:05] <dpm> no luck here yet :(
[16:05] <jcastro> one sec, I need to move my mic/speakers
[16:05] <dpm> I'll restart it
[16:07] <dpm> login thing still spinning...
[16:07] <dholbach> dpm, for mumble?
[16:07] <jono> dpm, we are n mumble
[16:07] <jcastro> dpm: we're trying mumble now
[16:07] <jcastro> jono: I can't hear you
[16:07] <dholbach> jcastro, can you hear us?
[16:07] <dholbach> hrmpf
[16:08] <jussi> dpm: got a sec?
[16:09] <dpm> jussi, sure, but after our team call ^
[16:10] <jussi> dpm: see PM :)
[16:10] <jussi> (answer at will)
[16:27] <jcastro> <--- LUNCH TIME FOR ME.
[16:27] <jcastro> high five everyone
[16:27] <jcastro> according to the internet Skype was down worldwide for 10-15 minutes
[16:27] <jcastro> see what we caused?
[16:27] <jono> jcastro, I blame Holbach
[16:32] <dpm> or in case of doubt, blame the manager
[16:33] <jono> dpm, always :)
[16:34]  * dpm hugs jono to make sure not to get fired
[17:04] <dholbach> ok my friends - I'm going to call it a day
[17:04] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[17:25] <hggdh> jcastro: I *think* eeeBotu is now sane. Please ping me if it goes berserk again
[17:34] <matti> ;]
[18:00] <jcastro> hggdh: heh ok, thanks
[18:03] <doctormo> I'm starting to wonder if the cal command was broken in Lucid, it's doing odd things now.
[18:03] <doctormo> and I have no idea where a bug report might be put.
[18:09] <hggdh> doctormo: bsdmainutils
[18:09] <doctormo> thanks hggdh
[18:09] <hggdh> yw
[18:11] <doctormo> I don't suppose anyone is using Jaunty and can do a quick test for me?
[18:15] <doctormo> Oh dear I'm going through some of the existing bugs reported and they're all still there, cal and ncal should probably be removed as they're broken in very scary ways.
[18:17] <czajkowski> jono: sorry missed call yesterday was travelling and completely forgot to let you know.
[18:17] <jcastro> czajkowski: it's ok we vouched for you
[18:18] <jcastro> "she is in travel hell."
[18:18] <jcastro> "she is in a tardis"
[18:18] <czajkowski> jcastro: thank you
[18:18]  * czajkowski hugs jcastro 
[18:18] <jcastro> "I believe she is in another space-time continuum"
[18:19] <jono> czajkowski, no worries!
[18:19] <czajkowski> *grin* it definately felt like it
[18:19] <czajkowski> 107.5hrs door to door.
[18:19] <czajkowski> some of my mates are still stuck in UK
[18:19] <czajkowski> house mate is stuck in cuba
[18:21] <jcastro> "sorry I was late to the call, I was taking the ring to Mordor."
[18:22] <czajkowski> I'd have been warmer there.
[18:22] <czajkowski> spent the entire day today catching up on sleep
[18:22] <czajkowski> feel alot more human
[18:22] <czajkowski> I did get re approval mails out when stuck at the airport :)
[18:25]  * czajkowski stabs planet ubuntu 
[19:05] <jcastro> I see jono's buddy sebsebseb is back
[19:07] <czajkowski> that name rings a bell
[19:08] <jcastro> he's the guy that spends 90% of the time flaming Ubuntu except when we have IRC events and chats, then he hogs all the questions
[19:09] <jcastro> then if you don't answer his question right away he starts throwing a temper tantrum
[19:09] <jcastro> I generally blamepopey for all of this
[19:10] <jcastro> http://blogs.skype.com/en/2010/12/skype_downtime_today.html?cm_mmc=PXTW|0700_B6-_-downtime-20101222
[19:10] <vish> jcastro: what event are we having now? .. the funny part is, he doesnt use Ubuntu even ;p
[19:10] <jcastro> vish: I'm watching jono on ustream
[19:11] <vish> ah!
[19:15] <nisshh> jcastro, i stopped watching jono's ustream, too many silly questions being asked
[19:16] <nisshh> havent any of these people heard of google?
[19:20] <doctormo> or ask ubuntu
[19:20] <nisshh> doctormo, oh that, yes :)
[19:20] <jcastro> well, I'm glad he's doing it so we don't have to
[19:20] <jcastro> heh
[19:20] <nisshh> jcastro, oh man, thats a low blow :)
[19:21] <jcastro> heh
[19:21] <nisshh> some of them were even asked last time
[19:21] <jcastro> what I don't get is where people come up with some of these questions
[19:21] <nisshh> how sad is that?
[19:21] <jcastro> it's like "I heard from somewhere that Unity is made of unicorns, is that true?"
[19:21] <nisshh> yeah
[19:22] <nisshh> jcastro, its the news blogs/social media rumors
[19:22] <nisshh> blame them
[19:22] <jcastro> yeah but some of them are just so out there ...
[19:22] <nisshh> they give newbies a mindset about stuff
[19:22] <nisshh> jcastro, give an example?
[19:23] <jcastro> nisshh: a bunch of these
[19:23] <nisshh> yeah
[19:23] <czajkowski> I find some of the questions are not really ubuntu realted and not really community questions, but I still think it gives an outlet to some people to get an answer they normally wouldnt get elsewhere
[19:23] <jcastro> ^^^ true dat
[19:24] <nisshh> czajkowski, +1
[19:24] <czajkowski> and jono is good at it and able to field the questions well
[19:24] <jcastro> ah, a humble bundle question, finally, something good!
[19:24] <vish> heh, i tuned in one episode and someone asked how jono was hung! :/  jono did give back a good reply/whacking but didnt look back since then ;p
[19:24] <nisshh> well, he has had the practice :)
[19:24] <czajkowski> vish: trolls everywhere more on irc
[19:25] <vish>  kinda stupid to ask such redundant questions.. even for a troll. ;)
[19:26] <czajkowski> means diddly squat to a troll vish
[19:28] <nisshh> hehe
[19:28] <nisshh> vish, 80% of the questions being asked there are redundant, its rediculous
[19:29] <vish> hehe, i had been to the recording of the Late Show and before the show they mention a bunch of rules how be react during recording and in the end the guy says : "but there is always this one guy"
[19:29] <vish> s/how be/how to*
[19:30] <nisshh> vish, hehe, there is always "this one guy" :)
[19:30] <vish> yea.. it's just like that, there is just one guy to ruin it all.. since until that moment the show was nice and all, and he kept on persisting..
[19:31] <nisshh> vish, youve lost me now, im not watching the ustream, so i dont know whats happening :)
[19:31] <czajkowski> nisshh: vish yer missing the point, these people do have questions, and jono is answering them, that will help in the long run.
[19:32] <vish> czajkowski ,  nisshh: nah, not mentioning about today's show.. just recalling the last show i watched.. :)
[19:32] <nisshh> czajkowski, true, it will, but 80% of those same questions will be asked next time, when a simple google search is needed
[19:32] <nisshh> vish, ah ok
[19:32] <czajkowski> nisshh: people want to hear someone tell them, it's liek going to a shop and buying a book, someone people like the interaction rather then buying the same book online
[19:34] <nisshh> czajkowski, yeah
[19:34] <doctormo> I did bat a question at the humble bundle guys about getting all the games into the software center.
[19:34] <doctormo> I can't believe we don't even have the first games which were open sourced in there.
[19:35] <jcastro> I find jono's ability to pronounce czajkowski properly impressive
[19:35] <vish> lol!!
[19:35] <jcastro> I butcher it regularly
[19:35] <czajkowski> jcastro: years of practice :)
[19:35] <czajkowski> I first met jono back in 2007
[19:36] <vish> for some odd reason it reminds me of "swarovski"
[19:36] <czajkowski> Chi Kov Ski :)
[19:37] <doctormo> Just think: tea mint holiday
[19:38] <doctormo> or is it chi as in Ché
[19:39] <czajkowski> jcastro: got the link to the ARM machine that ogra showed at uds
[19:51] <popey> toshiba ac100 czajkowski
[19:51] <popey> speaking of pronunciations.. http://www.businessinsider.com/motorolas-android-tablet-name-xoom-2010-12
[19:51] <czajkowski> popey: danke
[19:51] <popey> "We have to say, "Xoom" doesn't really grab us. We have no idea how to pronounce it.
[19:52] <popey> Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/motorolas-android-tablet-name-xoom-2010-12?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Falleyinsider%2Fsilicon_alley_insider+%28Silicon+Alley+Insider%29&utm_content=Google+Reader#ixzz18s7x8UFz"
[19:52] <popey> oops
[19:52] <popey> thats annoying
[19:52] <popey> how can the guy not know how to pronounce 'xoom'
[19:53] <czajkowski> right movie in bed time
[19:53] <czajkowski> nn folks
[20:43] <jussi> Is anyone here on diaspora?
[20:43] <nisshh> jussi, yeah :)
[20:43] <jussi> nisshh: jussi01 ;)
[20:43]  * nisshh searches and adds
[20:44] <jussi> nisshh: you can put me into the "those people who I would normally block" aspect :P
[20:44] <nisshh> haha
[20:44] <nisshh> jussi, no, your in the "why? just why?" aspect :)
[20:44] <jussi> hehe
[20:45] <nisshh> jussi, added
[20:45] <jussi> nisshh: also, could you confirm notifications never go away ? I assume its a bug...
[20:45] <nisshh> jussi, yeah, i posted feedback to them about that
[20:45] <jussi> excellent
[20:46] <nisshh> they replied really fast
[20:46] <nisshh> apparently its just really clunky still
[20:46] <jussi> anyone else here with diaspora is more than welcome to add me
[20:46] <nisshh> but if you click the notification icon next to search
[20:46] <nisshh> and then click each grey notification
[20:46] <nisshh> they are marked as 'read'
[20:47] <jussi> aaahhh
[20:47] <nisshh> so i submitted an 'idea' to them about making it nicer to mark notifications as 'read' :)
[20:47] <nisshh> like a button or something
[20:48] <nisshh> jussi, just curious, what aspects do you have?
[20:48] <jussi> family, ubuntu and work... so far
[20:48] <nisshh> ah ok
[20:49] <nisshh> i just have LoCo and IRC on there :)
[20:52] <nisshh> jussi, also, apparently a 'pm this user' feature is also in the works, which is good
[20:55] <jussi> ahh, nice
[20:56] <nisshh> jussi, in the 'ideas' pool for diaspora, 90% of the ideas are "make this more like facebook" :)
[20:57] <jussi> hah
[20:57] <nisshh> i just went *facepalm* :)
[20:57] <czajkowski> so just use facebook
[20:57] <czajkowski> simple
[20:57] <czajkowski> :)
[20:57] <nisshh> czajkowski, thats exactly what i thought :)
[20:57] <nisshh> silly people can just go back to facebook
[20:58] <jussi> well I disagree - wht lots of people want is facebook, but with the privacy stuff.
[20:58] <czajkowski> nisshh: never call people silly for wanting stuff done a certain way.  Otherwise lotta open source folks could be put in that category. Good to have choice
[20:58] <czajkowski> jussi: you disagree.......... never surely not
[20:58] <nisshh> czajkowski, heh, very true :)
[20:58] <jussi> czajkowski: watch it...
[20:59] <jussi> :D
[21:00] <nisshh> man my body clock is screwed, its 5am and it feels like 4pm :)
[21:00] <jussi> haha... go to take a nap then... :D
[21:01] <nisshh> jussi, yeah, im just doing a few little things then im down for 12 hours :)
[21:01] <nisshh> been awake for two days now :)
[21:02] <jussi> nisshh: go....
[21:02] <nisshh> jussi, hehe :)
[21:05] <czajkowski> why dont folks believe me when I say wolverhampton is nice
[21:05] <czajkowski> bah no jfo again
[21:12] <jcastro> I know, I miss him too
[21:18] <jcastro> jono: "3D support: fixed Unity/Compiz crashes on natty"
[21:18] <czajkowski> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8XjIkdUQns&feature=channel funky
[21:18] <jcastro> looks like Virtualbox 4.0 can run Unity
[21:18] <jcastro> just came out today
[21:18] <jcastro> I cannot confirm though
[21:19] <jono> jcastro, it's fixed?
[21:19] <jcastro> someone is claiming it runs great
[21:19] <jcastro> but this just came out like right now
[21:22] <czajkowski> Have to say I love community folks at times. Just replying to all the offers I got of places to stay for xmas or be collected from airports or other areas I could get to so they could drive me to ferry. most of the people I'd never met before.
[21:24] <jcastro> I never get a chance, no one comes to Detroit
[21:25] <czajkowski> oh next time I go to canada I'll go via Detroit so I can avoid O'Hare !
[21:25] <czajkowski> evil airport
[21:27] <nhandler> jcastro: Come by Chicago ;)
[21:27] <pleia2> jcastro: you can have some of mine, I live next to the biggest convention center in san francisco, my home sometimes is a bit of a flop house :)
[21:27] <jcastro> heh
[21:28] <czajkowski> pleia2: does that mean my invite is in the water eh !:)
[21:28] <pleia2> czajkowski: you are always welcome! assuming you can deal with the cat situation :)
[21:29] <nisshh> oh yeah, pleia2 the Crazy Cat Lady :)
[21:29] <pleia2> I only have 2!
[21:29] <czajkowski> *grin*
[21:29] <jcastro> that's how it starts!
[21:29] <nisshh> more than one makes you the Crazy Cat Lady :)
[21:30] <nisshh> jcastro, exactly :)
[21:30] <nhandler> nisshh: That makes my gf a crazy cat lady ;)
[21:31] <nisshh> nhandler, hehe, dont let her hear you say that :)
[21:31]  * AlanBell wonders what three chickens means
[21:32] <nhandler> AlanBell: It means you are all set for a good dinner ;)
[21:35] <Pendulum> AlanBell: it means you had a lot of extra kubuntu CDs lying around
[22:25] <czajkowski> JFo-vacation: whoo
[22:26] <JFo-vacation> woo woo!
[22:27] <czajkowski> JFo-vacation: your presence was missed
[22:35] <JFo-vacation> so I see
[22:35] <JFo-vacation> the crickets were lonely :)
[22:35] <czajkowski> well there was noise a while ago
[22:35] <czajkowski> then I got amused on twitter and listening to @uupc
[22:39] <czajkowski> well more the banter between sil tony and Pendulum
[22:39] <JFo-vacation> ah
[22:40] <JFo-vacation> I've been working on my pig sty of a house
[22:40] <czajkowski> popey: great show
[22:40] <czajkowski> http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/12/22/s03e23-departure-of-a-grand-old-man/
[22:40] <czajkowski> likeing the xmas story
[22:41]  * daker is listening to Jesse Cook - Dance of Spring
[22:50] <czajkowski> JFo-vacation: so what you up to?
[22:51] <JFo-vacation> taking a break for now from trying to clean my house up
[22:51] <JFo-vacation> place is a mess
[22:52] <czajkowski> one of them jobs people put off but needs to be done
[22:52] <JFo-vacation> yeah
[22:52] <JFo-vacation> and I put it off too long
[22:52] <JFo-vacation> I buy tons of stuff and never throw out the boxes
[22:52] <JFo-vacation> so I have stuff piled up
[22:53] <czajkowski> you a horder :p
[22:53] <JanC> \o/ we get a 2 table booth at FOSDEM
[22:53] <JFo-vacation> no, just a failure on my part to throw away packaging
[22:53] <JFo-vacation> so the boxes and wrapping piles up for a bit before I throw it out
[22:57] <czajkowski> JanC: excellent
[22:57] <czajkowski> we were a bit squashed last year if I can help again let me know
[22:58] <czajkowski> JFo-vacation: all set for xmas?
[22:58] <JFo-vacation> not really
[22:58] <JFo-vacation> :)
[23:00] <czajkowski> tl
[23:00] <czajkowski> tl l
[23:01] <czajkowski> tomorrow is shopping day!