[00:51] fta: I thought he just got it to build...is it in the sound menu now? [01:23] mdeslaur, hm, doesn't look like it [01:32] fta: ok, I'll fix it [01:39] fta: fixed rhythbox uploaded [01:40] great [01:41] micahg, funny, i packaged bluegriffon like 2 years ago [01:43] fta: oh, cool :), do you think it would be good to have in Ubuntu? [01:43] * micahg is just fixing the build system for xul2.0, not packaging bluegriffon [01:43] micahg, iirc, i never uploaded it, something with upstream, i don't remember [01:43] don't stop that guy if he's willing to do it ;) [01:44] I still would like to get songbird in the repos one day :-/ [01:44] fta: no, I wanted to help, but had no time [01:44] but my helper disappeared into the ethos [14:40] dpm, hi, why is there green there: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+lang/eu it's all supposed to be purple [14:43] hi fta, that's a change in Launchpad that was announced (and applied) yesterday. Purple is going away, as it was causing confusion: [14:43] https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-users/msg06183.html [14:43] and there is ongoing work on sharing upstream translations with ubuntu packages that might make this obsolete anyway [14:50] hm, in my case, it's confusing. i guess i have to generate my own stats [15:00] fta, yeah, I can understand that in your particular case. I'd suggest asking danilo in #launchpad to see if there are any alternatives [15:18] mdeslaur, hi, the rb is still missing in the sound indicator here [15:19] -the [15:19] fta: even after starting it once? [15:19] mdeslaur, just rebooted [15:19] mdeslaur, i used to start it from there [15:20] fta: let me try rebooting [15:20] yep, it appears when started manually [15:21] hmm [15:21] no more covers though [15:30] fta: It appears in the menu for me after a reboot, but the cover art is missing [15:30] fta: and I also have two banshees, and when playing something in banshee, it shows it as playing in rhythmbox, etc. [15:30] mdeslaur, i fully upgraded, rebooted, it wasn't there [15:30] fta: you need to start it once for it to appear [15:31] yep, not a big deal for me, but it will probably confuse some users [15:32] fta: I don't know how to fix it. [15:36] fta: actually, I think that's on purpose [15:36] so there's only one default media player, and in natty, it's banshee [15:37] oh, sad. they should detect which media player is the default in the gnome prefs [15:37] fta: once you've started rhythmbox just once, it'll always appear, even after a reboot [15:37] so it's no biggie [15:38] ok [15:41] grrr, i can't use dconf and can't change anything with dconf-editor [15:45] fta: yeah, that appears to be broken [15:45] fta: try gsettings get com.canonical.indicators.sound interested-media-players [15:51] fta: could you please confirm bug 693445 [15:51] Launchpad bug 693445 in d-conf (Ubuntu) "[natty] dconf-editor won't allow certain values to be modified (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693445 [15:52] done [15:53] fta: thanks [16:33] dpm, translation erros keep pilling up [16:33] errors [16:36] fta, I'm wondering if you could send an e-mail to each particular team with the error report. If you know the language code of the translations with errors, figuring out the team's name should be relatively easy (lp-l10n-$LANGCODE) and you can get the e-mail through the LP api [16:36] if not, I'd send another heads up with the report to the launchpad-translators list [16:37] dpm, i'll think about it. current situation is not ideal, it's not correlated to the translators workflow [16:38] dpm, ideally, lp should have a way to tag a string as needing review *with* a reason [16:39] dpm, all that using the api [16:39] fta, another option is what danilo was suggesting the other day: make the %{VARIABLES} use gettext-like syntax and you'd get syntax checking for free [16:39] fta, yeah, but there isn't a translations api yet :( [16:39] well, just a partial one [16:40] dpm, is there any plan for improving the api? [16:41] dpm, if i change the %{}, that would mean zillions string changes [16:43] fta, there isn't any plan for the api, due to lack of resources in the LP team to work on that. There was some community work on implementing API for reporting: https://dev.launchpad.net/Translations/Specs/ReportingAPI - however, it's been on hold for a while now due to the guy working on it being busy with other projects [16:46] fta, yeah, I agree changing the strings would not be optimal, just pointing it out as an option === bdmurray_ is now known as bdmurray [17:35] * micahg hates the choice of running Firefox 4 or Virtualbox [18:36] aloha [18:37] fta: I've been told to poke you re an issue I have http://twitpic.com/3igg3a/full [18:38] fta: all text links jumble the text on planet ubuntu and words go behind theright hand border but not everyone is having this issue [18:38] d'oh! looks bad [18:38] 1st time i see this [18:38] yeah since the new css it's really messed up reading for me on the planet [18:39] does it also do that with a fresh profile? (chromium-browser --temp-profile) [18:39] let me see [18:40] fta: yes it does [18:41] ok, so it's not one of your extension [18:41] which channel is that? stable? [18:41] yes [18:41] Maverick [18:42] fta: http://twitpic.com/3igj5k/full [18:47] czajkowski, looks like an upstream bug, could you please file a bug? http://new.crbug.com/ [18:48] and attach your screenshots [18:48] sure [18:50] thanks [18:51] np [18:52] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=67817 [19:08] czajkowski, Cced a dev usually liking this kind of bugs [19:09] czajkowski, btw, please have a look at bug 686575 comment #7 for what he's requesting to isolate that kind of bug [19:09] Launchpad bug 686575 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser incorrectly inteprets which HTML element is designated by mouse pointer (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686575 [19:09] people like these kinda bugs, where it's messed up on one persons but not anothers! [19:09] bonkers [19:12] no isue on ff [19:16] oh, happens to me too, running the daily builds [19:21] czajkowski, ^^, seems to be the ubuntu font [19:21] aye I did wonder that but that shouldn't effect the text going behind the border [19:21] I know some peoples titles look awful [19:24] czajkowski, known: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=59048 [19:25] fta: cheers at least I know it's not just me :) [19:25] not used to looking at bugs not on lp :) [19:27] czajkowski, zoom in + out works around it [19:29] czajkowski, you've just gained a META bug :) [19:30] a what ? [19:30] woo.. it's snowing hard in Paris :) [19:31] * czajkowski is sick of seeing snow [19:31] czajkowski, just an umbrella bug, collecting a bunch of other bugs [19:31] EVIL SNOW [19:31] fta: ah ok thanks [19:32] midori just crashes, so much for a wekbit test [19:37] fta: been stuck at airports and train stations for the last while. I know a lotta folks were trying to go via france till paris shut down then eurostar stoped taking bookings === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:51] chrisccoulson, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ntp.png another gnome3 weirdness? or a chromium bug [21:51] jdstrand: my chroots didn't work right and virtualbox doesn't like me at the moment [21:54] micahg: ack [21:54] jdstrand: is it easy to mount shares with kvm and libvirt? [21:55] * micahg doesn't want to clone qa-regression-tools in each vm [21:55] *testing [21:55] jdstrand: also, how much space does each image take? [22:05] micahg: the VMs? [22:05] jdstrand: yes [22:06] micahg: mine are 5G with 512M ram each [22:06] micahg: I have 2 for each supported release (i386 and amd64 installs) [22:06] jdstrand: can they grow as need or is the space preallocated? [22:06] jdstrand: do I need to test both archs? [22:06] micahg: I use qcow2 with snapshots and let them grow [22:06] micahg: for seamonkey-- no [22:07] micahg: for a supported package, yes [22:07] micahg: while growable, they max at 5G [22:08] jdstrand: so, the max size is predetermined or is 5G it? [22:19] micahg: it is however you set it up [22:19] jdstrand: ok, can you mount local dirs in the vms? [22:20] micahg: I use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/TestingEnvironment [22:20] micahg: you can with samba, but I don't bother. I just use scp [22:21] jdstrand: ok, thanks, I guess I'll give this a try then [22:22] micahg: most of the security team uses kvm/libvirt [22:22] micahg: sbeattie uses virtualbox [22:23] micahg: you might also like virt-manager if using kvm/libvirt [22:23] * micahg has been using VirtualBox for years for Windows VMs [22:23] micahg: mdeslaur and kees uses virt-manager [22:23] micahg: well, I am not advocating change per se, but we do use virtualization for most if not all testing [22:24] which makes sense, also the overhead should be lower with kvm/libvirt I imagine [22:25] I like ie [22:25] it [22:25] but then again, I am biased [22:25] is that why you help maintain it ;) [22:25] I wrote the apparmor driver for libvirt [22:25] hehe, yes [22:26] jdstrand: are you taking any vacation this time of year? [22:26] oh yes [22:27] when do you start? [22:27] I am off tomorrow through the new year [22:27] I start back on the monday after the 1st [22:27] ah, is there anyone not going on vacation? [22:27] not really [22:27] so, who can I get to push the SM update once I test? [22:33] Quotes page! I like ie [22:35] pfft [22:35] in the #ubuntu-mozilla channel no less :) [22:36] hehe :) [22:36] mdeslaur: when do you start vacation? [22:36] micahg: I'm on vacation. Can't you tell? :) [22:37] ah [22:37] micahg: I started yesterday, until the 3rd [22:37] mdeslaur: cool [22:43] jdstrand: BTW, should I be testing with openjdk or sun-java? [22:49] could someone please try chromium on natty, the new tab page [22:49] mine is broken: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ntp.png [22:50] micahg, ^^ ? [22:50] * micahg isn't on natty yet [22:51] fta: seems to be working for me [22:51] mdeslaur, which build? [22:51] fta: natty: 8.0.552.224~r68599-0ubuntu1, Pocket: release, Component: universe [22:52] hm, ok, so maybe it's trunk only then [22:53] let's see if lp still has older builds to bisect [23:03] micahg: yes please. just openjdk-6 is fine on all [23:03] and I assume flashplugin-nonfree on all is ok as well? [23:03] micahg: look at testlib_browser.py [23:03] micahg: grep QRT testlib_browser.py [23:05] ah, I read that before, I guess I forgot about it [23:13] mdeslaur, n-m, it was caused by an extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bpeohalpamaeaimliodkepkphdnhdidf