[05:16] <bazhang> sprung an issue in the past? the name seems familiar
[05:16] <rww> attitude, iirc
[05:18] <IdleOne> You know the chastising going on in -ot is really not in the spirit of Ubuntu.
[05:18] <IdleOne> the amount being asked for is outrages I agree
[05:19] <rww> then catalyze ;P
[05:20] <IdleOne> the channel ops should be but they seem to busy trying to kick this kids ass to do it
[05:20] <bazhang> IdleOne, well the commentary by robinetd earlier was not acted upon, this is mild in comparison
[05:21] <rww> IdleOne: The only thing I can do that you can't is forcibly shut people up. Do you think that needs doing?
[05:22] <IdleOne> hmm. well that is a whole other issue. right now I think you all need to back off the kid. You don't like it fine, you made your point. don't donate.
[05:22] <rww> bazhang: speaking of which, thanks for the @mark. I heard about it and didn't have it logged.
[06:15] <Myrtti> moin
[07:46] <Myrtti> how can a 14-year old NOT live like a cheaptard for years?
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> Rich parents?
[07:48] <Myrtti> tonyyarusso: if he needs a public donation box for getting a laptop, then I doubt he has rich parents
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> Myrtti: Just answering the question!
[07:49] <Myrtti> I'm just baffled by the whole idea
[07:52] <Tm_T> when I was a ... nevermind
[07:52] <Myrtti> Tm_T: indeed
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Translation:  "when I was a ... I forgot.  Did we have snack yet?"
[07:56] <Flannel> juice boxes for everyone!
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> Actually, that reminds me, I was going to go buy some juice boxes.
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> They made them all TINY now though.  This seriously angers me.
[07:58] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: Youve just gotten larger.  What sort of juice?
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Fruit?
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: But no, they seriously did change the size.  They used to be 8 ounces, and now they're I think 6.75.
[07:59] <Flannel> Apple juice?  Get the little cans.  Other juices... get honest-aide (I have no idea if that's made it out of CA yet).  Still adult sized!
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> little cans?
[08:01] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: I like the little cans, yeah.  You can get full sized cans too if you'd prefer, they make them
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> What are you talking about?
[08:03] <Flannel> aluminum shaped into cylinders, with endcaps designed to hold liquid refreshments in a portable manner.  A more recent modification was the addition of pull tabs, so you don't need to carry your own can opener to punch the tops anymore.  More recently, are the so-called "pop tops", where the pull tab doesn't get pulled.
[08:04] <Flannel> This results in a decrease of waste, and fewer sharp things to cut yourself on.
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> oh, as in pop cans.  Since when does juice come in those.
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> ?
[08:04] <Flannel> always?
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> California is a strange place.
[08:04] <Flannel> http://stores.pkuperspectives.com/catalog/treetop.jpg
[08:04] <Flannel> Those are the little ones, but they come full sized (12oz) too
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> I was going to say...5.5oz?  That's hardly worth the effort to open it.
[08:05] <Flannel> Nonsense.
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> However, there is actually a reason for wanting boxes and not cans.  Cans explode.
[08:06]  * tonyyarusso wants these to keep in the car as part of the emergency rations
[08:06] <Flannel> explode... when?  freezing?
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> yes
[08:07] <Flannel> Ah.
[08:07] <Flannel> Well, juice boxes would explode too, just not as catastrophically, I imagine.
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> Juice boxes have more than enough spare material in them to handle freezing the contents.  They'll just puff up harmlessly.
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> I never thought it would be financially sound to do grocery shopping on Amazon, but this is making a good run for it:  http://www.amazon.com/Knudsen-Razzleberry-Juice-8-Ounce-Aseptic/dp/B000VK2VRY/ref=sr_1_1?s=grocery&ie=UTF8&qid=1293004873&sr=1-1
[08:10] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: You could do plastic bottles as well.  Although those don't keep as nicely as boxes.  But if its just water...
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: yeah, I have some plastic water bottles rolling around in there right now.  I'd like to add something with calories, hence juice.  There are some plastic options there too, but I'm guessing they're more expensive because the packaging is more.
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> Less eco-sound too.
[08:13] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: boxes keep better than plastic over time too.  The aluminum lining and such.
[10:59] <cdbs> Now, someone on #ubuntu poked me saying why I don't help people...
[11:10] <Tm_T> cdbs: you dared to notify their error
[11:11] <cdbs> Tm_T: there's nothing to dare in that
[11:11] <cdbs> He was poking many people to help others
[11:11] <cdbs> its rude to do that
[11:11] <cdbs> especially when one's busy
[11:11] <Tm_T> it is rude, yes, I was just stating the possible logic behind it
[11:18] <elky> you're going to get a lot of criticism, cdbs. you should have known that coming in
[11:20] <cdbs> elky: its irritating, I am working on fixing FTBFS in Ubuntu packages, and I have people poking me to help others, and when I told them of why I am not (helping), then poking me via PM and stuff
[11:21] <Myrtti> via PM?
[11:21] <Myrtti> that's really rude
[11:23] <cdbs> of course
[11:25] <Myrtti> but as we all know, they'd want us to donate our kidneys too if it would somehow help people in #ubuntu
[11:30] <Tm_T> you didn't get the donation request last week?
[11:30]  * Tm_T hides
[11:35] <elky> Don't tempt her or she'll "accidentally" donate yours.
[11:43] <Tm_T> wouldn't be the first time someone donating my organs, although it's in vain
[11:43] <Tm_T> too old to be used
[12:01] <Myrtti> I have a feeling we're getting a troll influx again
[13:03] <topyli> Jordan_U: i do have an android phone and i'm aware of the irssi goodness available. but i don't like laggy mobile ssh for irc, local clients with a reliable bouncer are less annoying :)
[13:08] <topyli> i have now queried robinetd, promising no further warnings
[13:08] <topyli> no reply, he's away
[13:10] <ikonia> hass robinetd been a problem ?
[13:12] <topyli> he's been dodging the line for a year or two. trolling, sexual suggestions, cursing, most lately rejoicing lilo's death (last night). i have banned him before, tolerating since unbanning. he shows no sign of acknowledging rules or advice
[13:13] <topyli> i simply told him now i'm out of patience with him
[13:17] <ikonia> I was curious as he believes you have a personal issue with him
[13:17] <Pici> what
[13:17] <Pici> ugh, I'm going to have to read the scrollback
[13:21] <Pici> topyli: In which channels was this?
[13:21] <topyli> ikonia: i certainly do have a personal issue with him as well. previously he even managed to convince me about 'you just banned be because you don't like me'
[13:21] <topyli> Pici: -ot
[13:21] <ikonia> topyli: wasn't calling you out, was curious to what had caused this to flair up again
[13:22] <topyli> Pici: you won't find many clear, blazing violations, just constant disruption and annoyance
[13:23] <Pici> Understood.
[13:25] <topyli> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/546587/ is what i didn't very much like last night
[13:41] <ikonia> not really called for as a response
[13:43] <Pici> ugh
[13:51] <topyli> i can let him roam if you think that's a better idea and this is my personal problem
[14:23] <Tm_T> I distantly recall that name
[14:23]  * Tm_T checks
[14:24] <Tm_T> @login
[14:24] <Tm_T> @btlogin
[14:30] <Tm_T> hmh, nothing obvious in my logs
[14:30] <Pici> Tm_T: who?
[14:31] <Tm_T> robinetd
[14:31] <Tm_T> well, apparently I dont have PM logs of him atleast
[14:31] <Pici> Tm_T: Yes a regular in -offtopic
[14:32] <Tm_T> ye, I was wondering if I had personal encounters with him
[14:33] <topyli> no matter how you grep, you'll never find anything particularly terrible from him that would get him into trouble
[14:34] <Tm_T> it doesn't need to be particularly terrible to possibly end up discussing about it with me
[14:34] <topyli> things just fall to pieces *around* him when he starts insinuating, annoying people, and encouraging kids into silliness
[14:35] <Pici> Well, silliness is okay, but the rest is not.
[19:12] <topyli> a few trolls left on -ot, but i have to go
[19:13] <topyli> oh, just got a few extra minutes, would miss the next train anyway
[19:56] <famicube64> i got banned
[19:56] <famicube64> twice
[19:58] <Amaranth> Finally
[19:58] <famicube64> so eager
[19:59] <Amaranth> famicube64: You were banned for spamming about fuduntu and then evading bans
[19:59] <famicube64> i deny this
[19:59] <Amaranth> famicube64: If you want to advertise your distro Ubuntu channels are not the place to do it
[20:00] <Amaranth> Oh, and some light trolling in there too
[20:00] <famicube64> once again, it is not my distro
[20:00] <Amaranth> famicube64: Denying it won't help, it's logged
[20:00] <famicube64> i am simply advertising
[20:00] <famicube64> and that was my cat, he was walking on the keyboard
[20:01] <famicube64> silly thing
[20:01] <Amaranth> famicube64: No, your cat could not have typed that
[20:01] <famicube64> it could have
[20:01] <famicube64> cats have been known to download porn on to sex offender's computers, you know
[20:01] <famicube64> and organise it alphabetically
[20:01] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[20:01] <ikonia> Amaranth: I'm sorry to but in, but while this pathetic attempt of time wasting goes on I suggest we progress no futher
[20:01] <famicube64> i saw it on the news
[20:02] <ikonia> famicube64: please leave the channel and come back when you can talk honestly
[20:02] <Amaranth> ikonia: Yeah, I'm pretty much done
[20:02] <famicube64> i am being completely honest
[20:02] <famicube64> ban me if you must
[20:02] <ikonia> you are banned, job done
[20:02] <ikonia> please leave the channel
[20:02] <famicube64> ban me
[20:02] <famicube64> from this channel
[20:02] <famicube64> :srsbsns:
[20:02] <ikonia> you could just leave
[20:02] <famicube64> i could, but i won't
[20:03] <ikonia> !ops | famicube64 wants to be banned
[20:03] <Amaranth> famicube64: If you get banned from here there is pretty much no way you're ever going to be unbanned from the other channels, I'd reconsider.
[20:03] <famicube64> still waiting
[20:04] <Pici> toodles
[20:04] <Amaranth> Thanks nhandler
[20:05] <Amaranth> Oh hey I can comment from from the bot, neat
[20:09] <nhandler> Yep Amaranth
[20:14] <famicube64> good game, kind sirs
[20:15] <knome> erh
[20:27] <Pici> ...
[20:28] <knome> lovely
[20:33] <charlie-tca> even better
[20:33] <jrib> oh, I should have read this channel first
[20:33] <jrib> heh
[21:01] <ikonia> zz_dhruvasagar: do you need something ?
[21:02] <Pici> ikonia: hes banforwarded here.
[21:02] <ikonia> oh
[21:02] <Pici> guess why
[21:02] <ikonia> nick changes ?
[21:02] <Pici> ding ding ding
[21:02] <ikonia> what do I win
[21:03] <ikonia> zz_dhruvasagar: can you please respond
[21:03] <rww> you win an improperly-configured bnc instance and a mIRC license key
[21:03] <Pici> ikonia: You get to deal with RyanPianesi in #ubuntu. Well, if he continues after my suggestion.
[21:03] <ikonia> thanks
[21:03] <Pici> ;)
[21:04] <ikonia> based on his input in #wordpress it will be a delight to deal with him
[21:08] <ikonia> zz_dhruvasagar: can you please respond
[21:10] <rww> I like how even if we didn't ban away nicks, they'd still get banned for nickspam :|
[21:13] <ikonia> this is getting annoying
[21:15] <Myrtti> I've got a solution
[21:15] <Myrtti> and it's called remove
[21:15] <rww> ^
[21:15] <Myrtti> any objections?
[21:15] <rww> I like banforwards to ##fix_your_connection, but I'm snarky.
[21:15] <Myrtti> speak now, or be forever silent
[21:16] <Myrtti> in 10
[21:18] <ikonia> ughh
[21:18] <ikonia> changed the forward to a ban
[21:18] <ikonia> please remove again
[21:23] <ikonia> he's joined on pupose now as I change the forward to a ban
[21:24] <ikonia> more than meets the eye
[21:24] <ikonia> removed the ban
[21:25] <Myrtti> wow
[21:26] <marienz> hmm?
[21:26] <marienz> I'm still assuming he's really not here and runs some rather broken scripting
[21:28] <ikonia> disagree
[21:28] <ikonia> he was ban forwarded here
[21:29] <ikonia> when I removed the forward
[21:29] <ikonia> he still joined here, rather than #ubuntu
[21:29] <ikonia> script would have to be super broken
[21:30] <rww> I've seen scripts that broken.
[21:30] <rww> only once or twice in a couple of years, but still.
[21:30] <jrib> yes, very rare
[21:32] <ikonia> worlds shortest kline
[21:33] <marienz> that was intentional
[21:33] <ikonia> I'm sure
[21:33] <nhandler> I'll ban him temporarily (since he is away) and keeps joining
[21:33] <marienz> I can set a longer kline if the nickchanging keeps happening, which seems likely
[21:37] <jussi> marienz: so he is klined for now?
[21:37] <jussi> nhandler: might want to now remove the ban if so...
[21:38] <marienz> I'm still waiting for him to nick-change again
[21:38] <jussi> k
[21:40] <jrib> well he's in #vim nick-changing, but not in this channel
[21:42] <jussi> does the ban here stopus frm seeing that? marienz?
[21:43] <marienz> I share some channels with him
[23:36] <ikonia> umakant in #ubuntu, asus tech