[01:44] <pleia2> http://planet.ubuntu-california.org/
[01:44] <pleia2> :)
[01:45] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Planet edited
[01:47] <pleia2> ok, I am done emailing the list for today now
[01:48] <jtatum> nice work on the theme pleia2! looks really good.
[01:48] <pleia2> nice work on getting all the pieces into place!
[01:49] <pleia2> between seidos, erichammond, nUboon2Age and the two of us this ended up being quite the team effort :)
[01:49] <jtatum> unlike working on html+css, getting pieces into place is fun for me. hehe
[01:49] <seidos> me?  i didn't do anything O_O
[01:49] <pleia2> seidos: planet was inspired by: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2010-October/001405.html :)
[01:50] <seidos> ah, inspiration.
[01:50] <pleia2> and nUboon2Age collected all the replies and made the planet wiki page
[01:52] <seidos> i guess that counts for something (as opposed to nothing).
[01:52] <pleia2> it certainly does
[01:52] <seidos> i haven't checked out "the planet".  i am subscribed to the ubuntu planet, but not the california planet
[01:53] <pleia2> even if you don't subscribe to the whole thing it's a useful place to go to get links to each others blogs
[01:54] <seidos> ah, i think i jumped the gun.  there isn't a california planet yet is there?
[01:54] <jtatum> it's fascinating reading. after i set it up i read every entry on the page. great stuff
[01:54] <jtatum> seidos, what happened to your blog? it seems to be down or i would have added it
[01:54] <jtatum> the link redirected me to google
[01:54] <jtatum> planet.ubuntu-california.org
[01:55] <seidos> it is down.  i was self-hosting it off my notebook jtatum
[01:55] <jtatum> ah
[01:56] <jtatum> wordpress.com
[01:56] <seidos> yeah, i wanted to learn wordpress, so i installed it here
[01:56] <seidos> it was on blogspot
[01:57] <seidos> but i deleted it.  if i feel the content would change anyone's life or something, i would post it back up.
[01:57] <seidos> somehow
[01:57] <pleia2> life-changing is a pretty high bar
[01:58] <seidos> i'm not sure how else to place value on writing anymore.
[01:59] <pleia2> I just do it for fun, bonus if people actually read it ;)
[01:59] <seidos> i've written enough to grow tired of it.
[01:59]  * pleia2 nods
[01:59] <seidos> i have some fiction i'm working on.  that might be fun.
[01:59]  * seidos shrugs
[02:06] <jtatum> i like erichammond's blog. the first time i tried ec2 it was with an alestic image. this predated the official stuff
[02:09] <jtatum> earliest notes i can find about ec2 have this link: http://aws.amazon.com/amis/1065?_encoding=UTF8&jiveRedirect=1
[02:41] <erichammond> jtatum: Ah, those were some fun days... :)
[03:24] <jtatum> gnu/Linux = silliness
[03:24] <jtatum> sorry debian and fsf
[03:59] <iheartubuntu> Hello all
[03:59] <pleia2> evening iheartubuntu
[04:00] <iheartubuntu> Any rain up yonder?
[04:00] <iheartubuntu> We have a break down here
[04:01] <iheartubuntu> Sounds like we might get hit again but even more
[04:01] <pleia2> it's been a bit cloudy, but the sun made an appearance today and I think it's dry now
[04:01] <akk> We've had some slight drizzle in the south bay but not much.
[04:02] <iheartubuntu> Can't wait for SCaLE
[04:02] <pleia2> me too, just bought my ticket today :)
[04:04] <iheartubuntu> I'm guessing I should get the full one
[04:22]  * pleia2 hears rain on window
[04:22] <pleia2> well, so much for that
[04:24] <akk> Yeah, started here too.
[04:26] <kdub_> steady rain in the silicon waffle
[05:22] <jyo> Isn't the big storm system supposed to roll in tonight?
[08:05] <outofjungle> pleia2: FYI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_and_Gromit's_World_of_Invention
[08:05] <outofjungle> not sure if you are already aware of that one
[17:46] <pleia2> seidos: fwiw, ubuntucalifornia.org is just a redirect to ubuntu-california.org
[17:46] <seidos> pleia2, yeah, i picked up on that.
[17:46] <pleia2> so you can use either one, but the one people end up at will have the dash
[17:47] <pleia2> (was just looking at your flier)
[17:47] <seidos> yeah, i tested it.  that is what happens.
[17:47] <seidos> it's easier to remember, and it goes to where it is supposed to ^_^
[17:48]  * pleia2 nods
[17:48] <seidos> "how" are you this morning pleia2 ?
[17:49] <pleia2> good but tired, had to start work early today
[17:49] <pleia2> you?
[17:50] <seidos> i am feeling pretty decent.  i woke up early, 6am as per usual since i arrived here.  i did wake up 2 or 3 times in the night, and had a weird dream O_o
[17:50] <pleia2> good weird or bad weird?
[17:50] <seidos> whoa, i don't know.  not too bad.
[17:50] <seidos> probably good ^_^
[17:50] <seidos> hard to say, dreams are so other worldly
[17:50] <pleia2> :)
[17:50] <pleia2> yeah
[17:51] <seidos> it's almost like asking if a movie is good or bad, now that i think about it
[17:54] <akk> That usually has a pretty straightforward answer.
[17:56] <seidos> it does?  i thought opinions on movies were quite varied.  perhaps that's because mine vary considerably.  i don't really know many people that like the movies that i like, especially *all* of them.
[17:57] <akk> You think "was it a good dream?" was asking "would everybody in the world, after having this exact dream, consider it good?"
[17:57] <jledbetter> Shared dreams would be fun.
[17:57] <akk> I mean, you know whether *you* liked a particular movie, most of the time, right?
[17:58] <akk> (with some exceptions ... in the middle of Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World right now and can't decide)
[17:58] <jledbetter> akk, I want to see that. Something tells me that I will think that is good.
[17:59] <akk> jledbetter: If you look for reviews, they're all wonderful -- but the only people who ever saw/reviewed it are gamers and/or comic book fans.
[17:59] <akk> I'm neither, so I was leery ... it's cute and silly, has some clever parts and some stupid parts, I'll reserve overall decision 'til I've finished it. :)
[18:00] <pleia2> I never decided whether I liked it or not
[18:00] <jledbetter> Heh. I'm in the gamer bucket.
[18:00] <akk> I heard it compared to Kick-Ass, but I definitely don't agree there -- Kick-Ass was definitely good.
[18:01] <seidos> actually, no, i don't think that.  i am just exploring the idea.  that is a consideration i am having, but it isn't *all* i think.
[18:02] <seidos> perhaps simply, i don't always agree with myself on what is a "good" movie and what is a "bad" movie, which implies i don't always agree with others.
[18:03] <seidos> so, i hope it doesn't annoy anyone, but i'm going to omit the hyphen when referring to ubuntucalifornia.org.
[18:04] <akk> Omitting the hyphen makes sense when talking out loud to people. Non-geeks get confused when you read them a url with a hyphen.
[18:05] <seidos> i don't see the point of it either way.
[18:06] <seidos> i guess to keep so-called geeks from getting uncomfortable
[18:06] <jledbetter> But geeks don't mind it?
[18:07] <seidos> perhaps geeks don't care either way.
[18:07] <akk> I haven't seen geeks objecting, and I've seen a lot of geeks (including myself) making domains with hyphens until we learn that other people get confused by them.
[18:08] <akk> And geeks are comfortable with things like variable_names_with_underscores and file_names_with_underscores_instead_of_spaces.
[18:08] <pleia2> people gave me no ends of trouble for ubuntupennsylvania.org because they said it was hard to read
[18:08] <jledbetter> seidos, That could be. I know I'm an odd duck. I think of how it will look in print and how it will sound.
[18:08] <pleia2> can't win :)
[18:09] <jledbetter> True.
[18:09] <pleia2> but we have both so it's cool
[18:10] <jledbetter> Yes. Thank you.
[18:10] <seidos> ubuntupennsylvania.org isn't hard to read, it is just "hard" to recall.
[18:10] <seidos> i guess...
[18:10] <seidos> actually, it probably isn't hard to recall either
[18:10] <pleia2> I think just reading it in an addressbar made their eyes unhappy
[18:10] <seidos> yeah.  there is an aversion to long urls that i can understand
[18:11] <seidos> perhaps because i don't give people enough credit
[18:13] <seidos> that the url can't spread because people have terrible memories
[18:13] <seidos> actually, people do have terrible memories.  my dad can't remember centerforpeacefulhealing.org
[18:14] <akk> Something like ubunt-ucalifornia or ubuntupennsylvania seems easy to recall, if you remember the word "ubuntu" and know how to spell your state.
[18:23] <seidos> unless you're hearing about it, and you live in new york.
[18:23] <seidos> but, is there any reason for the new york team to work with the california team?
[18:24] <pleia2> one of the new york team guys was out here for the linux collaboration summit earlier this year, we do love our conferences
[18:25] <pleia2> akk: I thought so too, which is why I registered ubuntupennsylvania.org, but people are goofy :)
[18:25] <pleia2> I think they *remember* it, they just think it's hard to parse in the addressbar
[18:26] <pleia2> or something, I never quite got it
[18:27] <akk> It's definitely hard to read in the addressbar.
[18:27] <akk> Which would be mostly a geek complaint, since normal people shut off immediately when they see a url.
[18:29] <seidos> isn't there a list of locos on ubuntu.com?
[18:29] <seidos> shuttleworth being on the top of the list *rim shot*
[18:30] <seidos> actually, then people would have to navigate the ubuntu website
[18:31] <seidos> bad idea
[18:32] <pleia2> if you click "Community" on ubuntu.com local teams are one of the links on that page (it goes to loco.ubuntu.com)
[18:32] <seidos> yeah i saw it under "community structure"
[18:32] <seidos> time for the meal