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Cheri703yo homies01:48
paultagyo Cheri70301:48
Cheri703what's new paultag?01:48
paultagCheri703: nada, helping someone in #fluxbox who is running arch, yet has no idea what the CLI is01:48
Cheri703nice01:48
paultagit's not fun01:49
Cheri703I'd imagine01:50
paultagI'm fine with beginners01:50
paultagjust not beginners that hate learning01:50
Cheri703yeah :(01:50
canthus13Cheri703: How's the boss thing going?02:06
Cheri703ha02:06
canthus13Heh.02:06
Cheri703fun02:06
Cheri703the crazy is showing ;)02:06
Cheri703she called my MOM02:06
canthus13Wow.02:06
canthus13What'd your mom say?02:06
Cheri703granted, she knows my mom from back where she used to live, but...still02:06
Cheri703basically boss was making up random crap, talking about how GENEROUS they've been, and how WONDERFUL and how she just can't imagine why I'd want to quit, and don't I understand how good they've been to me >.<02:07
Cheri703mom was like, "mmhm"02:07
canthus13Nice.02:07
Cheri703and boss is saying that I was overpaid, and that that bonus (the one she uses as justification for not paying me) was an ADVANCE on my pay, and I owe it back o.O02:07
Cheri703which is BULLCRAP02:07
Cheri703and my mom's response to that was "well, I'm sure cheri would love to work it out, so perhaps you and she can sit down with someone from xerox corporate and get that resolved"02:08
Cheri703because she's totally cheating the system and not doing what she's supposed to do and has lied to xerox about that whole program02:08
Cheri703boss' response was something to the effect of "oh"02:08
Cheri703:D02:08
Unit193Did you call the "system"?02:09
Cheri703well, one of the corporate folks knows already, but apparently hasn't done jack about it02:09
Cheri703:( so I'll be making some more calls as necessary02:09
canthus13bah. I used to know a whole bunch of people that worked all up and down the pay scales at PARC.02:11
canthus13Unfortunately, most of them have either retired or moved to other companies.02:11
Cheri703parc?02:11
canthus13Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center.02:11
* canthus13 wonders if Pavel is still there.02:11
Cheri703ah02:12
Cheri703nice02:12
BiosElementhttp://techcrunch.com/2010/12/21/verizon-google-fcc-net-neutrality/02:12
BiosElementAwesome FCC is retarded02:12
BiosElementApparently...since Android is "Open" the mobile network is "Open"...02:13
paultagha!02:13
BiosElementIf that's true, well then Linux is open so why the hell do we need it there? ;)02:13
BiosElementSo no, blame doesn't really go to Google02:13
BiosElementBut it goes directly to the FCC02:13
* canthus13 pokes through the exec bios to see if he recognizes any names.02:13
canthus13Bah. Nobody I recognize... You might shoot an email to the Chief Ethics Officer, tho... :)02:14
paultagCheri703: why?02:15
paultagerm canthus1302:15
paultagnot you Cheri70302:15
Cheri703yeah, might see if I can escalate this, especially if they're going to keep being crappy02:15
paultag:)02:15
Cheri703paultag: he's talking about my ridiculous boss situation02:15
paultagoh aye02:15
Cheri703BUT ONLY FOR 1.5 moar weeks!02:15
paultag:D02:15
Cheri703WOOO02:15
paultagCheri703: you go!02:15
canthus13paultag: I used to know half the staff at PARC.  I was hoping someone I knew made it up to the top of the food chain there.02:15
Cheri703and I'm taking thursday, friday, and monday off :D02:16
paultagaye02:16
paultagCheri703: fuck yea!02:16
Cheri703I am ready to not deal with them ANYMORE02:16
canthus13Bah. Pavel sold out to MS. :(02:18
Cheri703:(02:18
canthus13paultag: You still interested in writing an MMO?02:31
paultagcanthus13: MNO? MUD?02:32
paultagcanthus13: Oh MMO02:32
canthus13Or was it someone else in here that was talking about it?02:32
paultagI think someone else canthus13, I was thinking about writing a MUD at some point02:33
paultagbut I don't do MMOs :)02:33
canthus13paultag: Ah. Well, this would work for either... http://mooix.net/02:33
canthus13It's an abandoned project... mixing unix and MOO.02:33
paultagoh raw canthus1302:33
canthus13Seems interesting.02:33
paultagcanthus13: I was going to write everything in nodejs02:34
paultagseems like it would be best, also let me do it via HTTP or TCP02:34
paultagperhaps I can bridge it02:34
canthus13This one can be modified in pretty much any language.02:34
paultagyeah02:34
Unit193Maybe finch isn't the best idea... (seg faulting)05:32
Cheri703canthus13: around?16:30
canthus13Cheri703: What's up?17:51
Cheri703remember how you said to check if I could reach my modem when my internet was being dumb?18:14
canthus13Yep.18:19
Cheri703it did it earlier, but only for a short time. I could reach local ip's, but it wouldn't reach the modem, or reach external sites18:23
Cheri703so I don't know what that means18:24
canthus13Cheri703: Did the lights on the modem look normal at that point?18:27
Cheri703uhm, I didn't look, but they generally do, I've looked when it's done it in the past18:27
canthus13Then it's most likely the router flaking out on you.18:27
Cheri703but I can access all other local ip's18:28
canthus13I see it fairly often.  you can get to the local network, your ISP can see the internet-facing port on the router, but the bridge in between isn't passing any traffic.18:28
Cheri703:(18:28
Cheri703any recourse other than a new router?18:29
Cheri703because...not buying a new router18:29
canthus13Cheri703: What brand is the router? (Not belkin, I hope...)18:29
Cheri703no, trendnet18:29
Cheri703one sec, I'll get the model18:29
canthus13Trendnet... Formerly Intel.18:29
canthus13Dunno much about them. I run across them once in a while.18:29
Cheri703tew-652brp18:29
Cheri703supposedly a well reviewed unit, I dunno though18:30
canthus13Cheri703: It'll run DD-WRT.18:30
Cheri703should I put that on it?18:30
canthus13I wouldn't do it without a spare router, just in case you brick it.  But DD-WRT is better than most stock firmware.18:31
Cheri703I may be getting a spare router this weekend, a linksys g router18:31
Cheri703not sure what model18:31
canthus13Well, the tow-652brp v1.0, anyway.18:31
canthus13THe linksys might be a better choice for DD-WRT, depending on the model/version.18:31
* Cheri703 wants n18:32
canthus13But if that trendnet is the v 1.0, it supports better firmware than a lot of linksys.  32MB ram, 4 MB flash. most linksys are 8/2.18:32
Cheri703ok, I'm checking18:32
Cheri703how do I know what version I have?18:33
Cheri703not seeing it18:33
canthus1332MB makes me doubt it's a memory issue locking it up.18:34
canthus13Umm.. usually on the tag on the bottom near the model number.  Also, somewhere on the router config page.18:34
Cheri703k18:34
canthus13I'd guess that no version number means 1.018:34
Cheri703it's presently attached to something, so looking on the bottom is not convenient...looking on config page18:35
Cheri703I guess I don't know WHAT is so wonderful about the dd-wrt, I've heard about it, but I don't know what benefit it has for me18:36
canthus13It's very configurable, and a lot more stable than a lot of factory firmware.18:36
Cheri703ah, ok18:37
Cheri703I think I have a version 2, based on some site18:37
canthus13You can also adjust the radio power level to get better (or worse) range.18:37
Cheri703firmware is 2.something something18:37
Cheri703ok18:37
canthus13Although boosting the power levels might burn the radio out.  Cutting them back, though, can keep neighbors off an open/weakly encrypted access point.18:37
canthus13Hmm.. Not sure. you might ask on the DD-WRT forums.18:38
Cheri703looks like it supports it18:38
canthus13the v1.0 is the hardware revision, not the firmware revision.18:38
canthus13I'd think the firmware revision isn't too important. (Although it could be for the flash process..)18:38
Cheri703it's a v2.1r18:42
Cheri703apparently that's not compatible with dd-wrt :(18:43
Cheri703they changed from atheros to realtek :(18:46
canthus13Bah. that sucks.18:51
Cheri703oh well18:51
Cheri703it's usable. and I can mess with the linksys all I want :)18:51
Cheri703I have 10mbps internet, but even right now, I'm connected to the n router, and it says 54kbps on my connection info >.<18:52
Cheri703eh, oh well. I have to go back and work on getting the house ready...don't want to, but need to18:55
canthus1354kbps? Or 54mbps?19:07
canthus1354mbps is a standard wireless G speed.19:07
thafreak54TBPS19:09
thafreak54PBPS19:09
Cheri703Mb/s, sorry, reading quickly19:19
canthus13Ah. you're getting max G speed.  You've prolly got therouter set for mixed mode.19:20
Cheri703I think so19:22
Cheri703would I suddenly get blazingly faster speed if I set it to n only?19:25
Cheri703I'm not thinking I would19:25
canthus13Only between machines on the network.19:25
Cheri703yeah19:25
Cheri703ok19:25
canthus13And if you have any G-only wireless devices, they wouldn't be able to connect.19:25
Cheri703that's why I left it on mixed mode....19:25
Cheri703I work on old computers for people, lots of older dells and such19:26
canthus13So you're pretty much stuck.19:26
canthus13Of course, you could go straight N on that one and use the other router when you get it for G connections.19:26
Cheri703true...19:27
Cheri703OR I could keep the g one in its box and sell it to someone later...19:27
canthus13Heh.19:28
Cheri703posts like this make me weep for ohio: http://mansfield.craigslist.org/stp/2125279070.html22:00
* canthus13 sometimes weeps because he's IN ohio...22:04
canthus13At least the poster sprinkled  a little punctuation in there...22:05
Cheri7032 periods22:09
Cheri703and spelled mansfield wrong22:09
* Cheri703 has only half of her living room curtains up22:10

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