[01:48] <Cheri703> yo homies
[01:48] <paultag> yo Cheri703
[01:48] <Cheri703> what's new paultag?
[01:48] <paultag> Cheri703: nada, helping someone in #fluxbox who is running arch, yet has no idea what the CLI is
[01:48] <Cheri703> nice
[01:49] <paultag> it's not fun
[01:50] <Cheri703> I'd imagine
[01:50] <paultag> I'm fine with beginners
[01:50] <paultag> just not beginners that hate learning
[01:50] <Cheri703> yeah :(
[02:06] <canthus13> Cheri703: How's the boss thing going?
[02:06] <Cheri703> ha
[02:06] <canthus13> Heh.
[02:06] <Cheri703> fun
[02:06] <Cheri703> the crazy is showing ;)
[02:06] <Cheri703> she called my MOM
[02:06] <canthus13> Wow.
[02:06] <canthus13> What'd your mom say?
[02:06] <Cheri703> granted, she knows my mom from back where she used to live, but...still
[02:07] <Cheri703> basically boss was making up random crap, talking about how GENEROUS they've been, and how WONDERFUL and how she just can't imagine why I'd want to quit, and don't I understand how good they've been to me >.<
[02:07] <Cheri703> mom was like, "mmhm"
[02:07] <canthus13> Nice.
[02:07] <Cheri703> and boss is saying that I was overpaid, and that that bonus (the one she uses as justification for not paying me) was an ADVANCE on my pay, and I owe it back o.O
[02:07] <Cheri703> which is BULLCRAP
[02:08] <Cheri703> and my mom's response to that was "well, I'm sure cheri would love to work it out, so perhaps you and she can sit down with someone from xerox corporate and get that resolved"
[02:08] <Cheri703> because she's totally cheating the system and not doing what she's supposed to do and has lied to xerox about that whole program
[02:08] <Cheri703> boss' response was something to the effect of "oh"
[02:08] <Cheri703> :D
[02:09] <Unit193> Did you call the "system"?
[02:09] <Cheri703> well, one of the corporate folks knows already, but apparently hasn't done jack about it
[02:09] <Cheri703> :( so I'll be making some more calls as necessary
[02:11] <canthus13> bah. I used to know a whole bunch of people that worked all up and down the pay scales at PARC.
[02:11] <canthus13> Unfortunately, most of them have either retired or moved to other companies.
[02:11] <Cheri703> parc?
[02:11] <canthus13> Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center.
[02:11]  * canthus13 wonders if Pavel is still there.
[02:12] <Cheri703> ah
[02:12] <Cheri703> nice
[02:12] <BiosElement> http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/21/verizon-google-fcc-net-neutrality/
[02:12] <BiosElement> Awesome FCC is retarded
[02:13] <BiosElement> Apparently...since Android is "Open" the mobile network is "Open"...
[02:13] <paultag> ha!
[02:13] <BiosElement> If that's true, well then Linux is open so why the hell do we need it there? ;)
[02:13] <BiosElement> So no, blame doesn't really go to Google
[02:13] <BiosElement> But it goes directly to the FCC
[02:13]  * canthus13 pokes through the exec bios to see if he recognizes any names.
[02:14] <canthus13> Bah. Nobody I recognize... You might shoot an email to the Chief Ethics Officer, tho... :)
[02:15] <paultag> Cheri703: why?
[02:15] <paultag> erm canthus13
[02:15] <paultag> not you Cheri703
[02:15] <Cheri703> yeah, might see if I can escalate this, especially if they're going to keep being crappy
[02:15] <paultag> :)
[02:15] <Cheri703> paultag: he's talking about my ridiculous boss situation
[02:15] <paultag> oh aye
[02:15] <Cheri703> BUT ONLY FOR 1.5 moar weeks!
[02:15] <paultag> :D
[02:15] <Cheri703> WOOO
[02:15] <paultag> Cheri703: you go!
[02:15] <canthus13> paultag: I used to know half the staff at PARC.  I was hoping someone I knew made it up to the top of the food chain there.
[02:16] <Cheri703> and I'm taking thursday, friday, and monday off :D
[02:16] <paultag> aye
[02:16] <paultag> Cheri703: fuck yea!
[02:16] <Cheri703> I am ready to not deal with them ANYMORE
[02:18] <canthus13> Bah. Pavel sold out to MS. :(
[02:18] <Cheri703> :(
[02:31] <canthus13> paultag: You still interested in writing an MMO?
[02:32] <paultag> canthus13: MNO? MUD?
[02:32] <paultag> canthus13: Oh MMO
[02:32] <canthus13> Or was it someone else in here that was talking about it?
[02:33] <paultag> I think someone else canthus13, I was thinking about writing a MUD at some point
[02:33] <paultag> but I don't do MMOs :)
[02:33] <canthus13> paultag: Ah. Well, this would work for either... http://mooix.net/
[02:33] <canthus13> It's an abandoned project... mixing unix and MOO.
[02:33] <paultag> oh raw canthus13
[02:33] <canthus13> Seems interesting.
[02:34] <paultag> canthus13: I was going to write everything in nodejs
[02:34] <paultag> seems like it would be best, also let me do it via HTTP or TCP
[02:34] <paultag> perhaps I can bridge it
[02:34] <canthus13> This one can be modified in pretty much any language.
[02:34] <paultag> yeah
[05:32] <Unit193> Maybe finch isn't the best idea... (seg faulting)
[16:30] <Cheri703> canthus13: around?
[17:51] <canthus13> Cheri703: What's up?
[18:14] <Cheri703> remember how you said to check if I could reach my modem when my internet was being dumb?
[18:19] <canthus13> Yep.
[18:23] <Cheri703> it did it earlier, but only for a short time. I could reach local ip's, but it wouldn't reach the modem, or reach external sites
[18:24] <Cheri703> so I don't know what that means
[18:27] <canthus13> Cheri703: Did the lights on the modem look normal at that point?
[18:27] <Cheri703> uhm, I didn't look, but they generally do, I've looked when it's done it in the past
[18:27] <canthus13> Then it's most likely the router flaking out on you.
[18:28] <Cheri703> but I can access all other local ip's
[18:28] <canthus13> I see it fairly often.  you can get to the local network, your ISP can see the internet-facing port on the router, but the bridge in between isn't passing any traffic.
[18:28] <Cheri703> :(
[18:29] <Cheri703> any recourse other than a new router?
[18:29] <Cheri703> because...not buying a new router
[18:29] <canthus13> Cheri703: What brand is the router? (Not belkin, I hope...)
[18:29] <Cheri703> no, trendnet
[18:29] <Cheri703> one sec, I'll get the model
[18:29] <canthus13> Trendnet... Formerly Intel.
[18:29] <canthus13> Dunno much about them. I run across them once in a while.
[18:29] <Cheri703> tew-652brp
[18:30] <Cheri703> supposedly a well reviewed unit, I dunno though
[18:30] <canthus13> Cheri703: It'll run DD-WRT.
[18:30] <Cheri703> should I put that on it?
[18:31] <canthus13> I wouldn't do it without a spare router, just in case you brick it.  But DD-WRT is better than most stock firmware.
[18:31] <Cheri703> I may be getting a spare router this weekend, a linksys g router
[18:31] <Cheri703> not sure what model
[18:31] <canthus13> Well, the tow-652brp v1.0, anyway.
[18:31] <canthus13> THe linksys might be a better choice for DD-WRT, depending on the model/version.
[18:32]  * Cheri703 wants n
[18:32] <canthus13> But if that trendnet is the v 1.0, it supports better firmware than a lot of linksys.  32MB ram, 4 MB flash. most linksys are 8/2.
[18:32] <Cheri703> ok, I'm checking
[18:33] <Cheri703> how do I know what version I have?
[18:33] <Cheri703> not seeing it
[18:34] <canthus13> 32MB makes me doubt it's a memory issue locking it up.
[18:34] <canthus13> Umm.. usually on the tag on the bottom near the model number.  Also, somewhere on the router config page.
[18:34] <Cheri703> k
[18:34] <canthus13> I'd guess that no version number means 1.0
[18:35] <Cheri703> it's presently attached to something, so looking on the bottom is not convenient...looking on config page
[18:36] <Cheri703> I guess I don't know WHAT is so wonderful about the dd-wrt, I've heard about it, but I don't know what benefit it has for me
[18:36] <canthus13> It's very configurable, and a lot more stable than a lot of factory firmware.
[18:37] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[18:37] <Cheri703> I think I have a version 2, based on some site
[18:37] <canthus13> You can also adjust the radio power level to get better (or worse) range.
[18:37] <Cheri703> firmware is 2.something something
[18:37] <Cheri703> ok
[18:37] <canthus13> Although boosting the power levels might burn the radio out.  Cutting them back, though, can keep neighbors off an open/weakly encrypted access point.
[18:38] <canthus13> Hmm.. Not sure. you might ask on the DD-WRT forums.
[18:38] <Cheri703> looks like it supports it
[18:38] <canthus13> the v1.0 is the hardware revision, not the firmware revision.
[18:38] <canthus13> I'd think the firmware revision isn't too important. (Although it could be for the flash process..)
[18:42] <Cheri703> it's a v2.1r
[18:43] <Cheri703> apparently that's not compatible with dd-wrt :(
[18:46] <Cheri703> they changed from atheros to realtek :(
[18:51] <canthus13> Bah. that sucks.
[18:51] <Cheri703> oh well
[18:51] <Cheri703> it's usable. and I can mess with the linksys all I want :)
[18:52] <Cheri703> I have 10mbps internet, but even right now, I'm connected to the n router, and it says 54kbps on my connection info >.<
[18:55] <Cheri703> eh, oh well. I have to go back and work on getting the house ready...don't want to, but need to
[19:07] <canthus13> 54kbps? Or 54mbps?
[19:07] <canthus13> 54mbps is a standard wireless G speed.
[19:09] <thafreak> 54TBPS
[19:09] <thafreak> 54PBPS
[19:19] <Cheri703> Mb/s, sorry, reading quickly
[19:20] <canthus13> Ah. you're getting max G speed.  You've prolly got therouter set for mixed mode.
[19:22] <Cheri703> I think so
[19:25] <Cheri703> would I suddenly get blazingly faster speed if I set it to n only?
[19:25] <Cheri703> I'm not thinking I would
[19:25] <canthus13> Only between machines on the network.
[19:25] <Cheri703> yeah
[19:25] <Cheri703> ok
[19:25] <canthus13> And if you have any G-only wireless devices, they wouldn't be able to connect.
[19:25] <Cheri703> that's why I left it on mixed mode....
[19:26] <Cheri703> I work on old computers for people, lots of older dells and such
[19:26] <canthus13> So you're pretty much stuck.
[19:26] <canthus13> Of course, you could go straight N on that one and use the other router when you get it for G connections.
[19:27] <Cheri703> true...
[19:27] <Cheri703> OR I could keep the g one in its box and sell it to someone later...
[19:28] <canthus13> Heh.
[22:00] <Cheri703> posts like this make me weep for ohio: http://mansfield.craigslist.org/stp/2125279070.html
[22:04]  * canthus13 sometimes weeps because he's IN ohio...
[22:05] <canthus13> At least the poster sprinkled  a little punctuation in there...
[22:09] <Cheri703> 2 periods
[22:09] <Cheri703> and spelled mansfield wrong
[22:10]  * Cheri703 has only half of her living room curtains up