| LPCIBot | Project devel build (330): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 32 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/330/ | 00:27 |
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| wgrant | sinzui: Around? | 00:39 |
| mbrigdan | So, this is probably some dumb error on my part, but when I do "make schema", it spits out a giant python traceback that ends with "ImportError: cannot import name boolean". What should I do? | 01:16 |
| wgrant | mbrigdan: That's rather odd. Could you pastebin the full traceback? | 01:17 |
| mbrigdan | sure thing, just give me a second | 01:19 |
| mbrigdan | Here you go: http://pastebin.com/kpQi2Gsi | 01:19 |
| wgrant | mbrigdan: Where did /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/_xmlplus come from? | 01:24 |
| mbrigdan | I'm pretty sure i've never seen that before today. Strange | 01:25 |
| mbrigdan | huh, google says it may be related to python-xml, which was removed at some point | 01:26 |
| mbrigdan | And I still have it installed. That might be a problem | 01:27 |
| mbrigdan | Removed it, and now it looks like its working. Cool | 01:29 |
| wgrant | Excellent. | 01:31 |
| mbrigdan | ugh, sorry to keep bothering you, but now make run gives me a rather smaller traceback, ending with "dent authentication failed for user "launchpad_main"". Looking at google, this happened to someone else because they have two versions of postgres installed, but I'm certain I only have one. | 01:45 |
| mbrigdan | sorry, s/dent/ident | 01:46 |
| wgrant | mbrigdan: Have you run utilities/launchpad-database-setup? | 01:57 |
| mbrigdan | yes, but I'm running it again, along with make schema to see if that fixes anything | 01:57 |
| mbrigdan | huh, still not working. I just do "./utilities/launchpad-database-setup $USER", right? | 02:01 |
| wgrant | That should do it. | 02:02 |
| wgrant | Can you run 'psql postgres' successfully? | 02:02 |
| mbrigdan | yeah, seems to work fine | 02:03 |
| wgrant | You're running 'make run' as the same user? | 02:03 |
| mbrigdan | yup | 02:05 |
| mbrigdan | and echo $USER gives my username, just incase something fishy was going on | 02:05 |
| wgrant | Does 'psql -U launchpad_main launchpad_dev' work? | 02:09 |
| wgrant | mbrigdan: ^^ | 02:09 |
| mbrigdan | no, it fails with: psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "launchpad_main" | 02:10 |
| wgrant | mbrigdan: Run "psql postgres", and "SELECT * FROM pg_user WHERE usename='YOUR_USERNAME';" | 02:14 |
| wgrant | Is usesuper true? | 02:14 |
| mbrigdan | usesuper has a t underneath it, so, not knowing anything about postgres, I would assume yes. | 02:15 |
| wgrant | Indeed. | 02:16 |
| wgrant | What about usename='launchpad_main'? | 02:17 |
| mbrigdan | usecreatedb, usesuper, and usecatupd are all false, whatever they are. Should I got about changing this? | 02:18 |
| wgrant | No, that's fine. I was mostly wondering if the user actually existed. | 02:19 |
| wgrant | Which version of Ubuntu are you using? 10.10? | 02:20 |
| mbrigdan | err, that's maverick right? | 02:21 |
| mbrigdan | if so then yes | 02:21 |
| wgrant | That is. | 02:21 |
| wgrant | Does /etc/postgresql/8.4/main/pg_hba.conf have 'local all all trust' and 'host all all 127.0.0.1/32 trust' lines in it? | 02:21 |
| wgrant | If so, perhaps try restarting postgres. | 02:22 |
| wgrant | Since I can't think what else it could be. | 02:22 |
| mbrigdan | yes it does. | 02:23 |
| mbrigdan | How would I restart postgres? | 02:23 |
| wgrant | sudo service postgresql restart | 02:23 |
| mbrigdan | When I restart postgres (or start/stop/anything else for that matter), it gives me Insecure directory in "$ENV{PATH} while running with -T switch at /usr/bin/pg_ctlcluster line 63" and then "FAIL". But it still seems to be working. Could that be the problem? | 02:28 |
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| wgrant | I've never seen that before. | 02:29 |
| wgrant | Is there anything interesting in /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-8.4-main.log? | 02:30 |
| mbrigdan | huh, this is in there: MST LOG: provided username (launchpad_main) and authenticated username (matthew) don't match | 02:32 |
| mbrigdan | followed immediately by MST FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "launchpad_main" | 02:32 |
| wgrant | Hmm, so it is indeed using ident rather than trust. | 02:33 |
| wgrant | The 'local all all trust' line in pg_hba.conf should make it work... | 02:34 |
| wgrant | Oh, unless it's disabling it because it thinks the directory is too insecure. | 02:35 |
| wgrant | Who owns /etc/postgresql/8.4/main and its contents? | 02:37 |
| mbrigdan | user and group is all postgres | 02:38 |
| mbrigdan | although, I have added other things to my personal $PATH, could that be it? | 02:39 |
| wgrant | Ahh, that's probably it. The restart is failing, not postgres itself. | 02:39 |
| wgrant | And I bet it failed the same way when launchpad-database-setup tried to do it. | 02:40 |
| wgrant | Either fix PATH, fix that directory's perms, or use sudo -i. | 02:40 |
| mbrigdan | huh, sudo -i still fails | 02:41 |
| mbrigdan | What would I need to change the permissions to? Because I think I should already be the only one with access | 02:42 |
| wgrant | I can't work out what generates that error message, but it sounds like there is a world-writable directory in $PATH. | 02:48 |
| wgrant | And if it's still there after sudo -i, you've probably chmodded one of the default one. | 02:48 |
| wgrant | +s | 02:48 |
| mbrigdan | oh wait, I think apt started to complain about something after I updated to maverick, if only I could remember what it said | 02:50 |
| mbrigdan | well, I found at least one problem, /usr/bin is world-writeable. Thankfully, I'm the only one to ever use this computer | 02:52 |
| wgrant | Hah. | 02:52 |
| mbrigdan | Oddly, I remember apt complaining about something similar after my last upgrade too, but then it just went away | 02:53 |
| mbrigdan | and what d'ya' know, sudo -i now get postgres to restart perfectly fine | 02:54 |
| wgrant | If you don't remember making that change yourself, I would be hesistant to trust your machine much further. | 02:54 |
| mbrigdan | The thing is, I don't remember doing it, but my machine likes to do funny things on dist updates | 02:55 |
| mbrigdan | like installing apache | 02:55 |
| mbrigdan | every time | 02:55 |
| mbrigdan | for no reason | 02:55 |
| wgrant | Nice. | 02:56 |
| mbrigdan | and I haven't ran any software that hasn't come from the repos, so I'm hopefully good | 02:56 |
| mbrigdan | and, as a high school student, who backs up everything to external drives, I don't have that much that I would feel bad about losing | 02:57 |
| mbrigdan | other than a bunch of music which I should have on CDs somewhere anyways | 02:57 |
| wgrant | You would be one of the few such people who regularly back up, I suspect. | 02:57 |
| mbrigdan | hah, probably. After a few VERY close calls, I set up rsync to do it in the background once a day. | 02:58 |
| mbrigdan | I've discovered some rather interesting ways to corrupt data | 02:59 |
| sinzui | hi wgrant | 03:02 |
| wgrant | sinzui: Hi. Do we have form design guidelines somewhere? | 03:02 |
| sinzui | I do not think so... | 03:03 |
| mbrigdan | sweet, make run works now. Thanks for putting up with all of my strange problems man. | 03:03 |
| sinzui | There were many rules, but nothing in a single place | 03:03 |
| sinzui | wgrant, I think many of our rules are embodied in the Canonical web design guildelines that we do not *officially* use | 03:04 |
| wgrant | sinzui: I didn't realise that we had web design guidelines. | 03:04 |
| wgrant | Perhaps my initial investigations of the Canonical wiki were inadequate. | 03:04 |
| sinzui | wgrant, http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/guides-for-websites/ | 03:05 |
| sinzui | ^ I have been trying to reconcile Canonical + Ubuntu with Lp | 03:05 |
| wgrant | Aha | 03:06 |
| sinzui | Colour is difficult, font-sizes impossible, but forms look like beuno's rules | 03:06 |
| wgrant | sinzui: That mostly covers visual design. | 03:07 |
| wgrant | I am more concerned at the moment about textual content. | 03:07 |
| wgrant | eg. some field captions use title case, others sentence case. | 03:08 |
| sinzui | ahh | 03:08 |
| sinzui | yes that was once in many documents | 03:08 |
| wgrant | Description style also varies considerably. | 03:09 |
| wgrant | And even those with stylistic similarities differ in subtle yet jarring ways. For example, on how they refer to the object on which they operate ("the archive" vs. "this archive"). | 03:10 |
| wgrant | It is all disturbingly inconsistent. | 03:10 |
| sinzui | wgrant, :( I think we was missing a page in the wiki | 03:10 |
| wgrant | sinzui: dev.launchpad.net/UI has lots of links. | 03:11 |
| wgrant | But they are all broken. | 03:11 |
| sinzui | I recall something about the form slots | 03:11 |
| wgrant | And I cannot find anything on wiki.canonical.com or launchpad.canonical.com. | 03:11 |
| sinzui | I am looking at the later and do not see them | 03:13 |
| sinzui | There was a page about the extra form slots, another about writing the title and description in the interface | 03:13 |
| wgrant | I do not recall ever having seen those. | 03:15 |
| wgrant | Which suggests that they were not public. | 03:15 |
| sinzui | right | 03:15 |
| sinzui | I recall a rule about labeling fields as optional. Then you reported a bug that we have forms where we label the field as required | 03:16 |
| wgrant | That was quite some years ago. | 03:17 |
| wgrant | I presumed at the time it was because of differing form libraries. | 03:17 |
| sinzui | wgrant, I do not see anything. from the past. I think we need to focus on the future. U1, Lp, and Ubuntu should used the same rules. Maybe they have rules for us | 03:23 |
| wgrant | sinzui: The Ubuntu and Canonical guidelines always seemed to focus on the visual side of things rather than interaction. | 03:24 |
| wgrant | Which makes them unuseful for Launchpad, which must maintain a distinct visual identity. | 03:24 |
| wgrant | I fear that the guidelines we seek may not in fact exist. | 03:24 |
| sinzui | The rules of spacing and text are based on usability tests. They are thing Lp is ignoring | 03:25 |
| sinzui | The rules of interaction for Lp, U1 and Ubuntu should be the same. | 03:25 |
| sinzui | Maybe beuno developed something for U1 | 03:25 |
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| LPCIBot | Project devel build (331): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 30 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/331/ | 04:40 |
| thumper | YAY \o/ | 05:09 |
| thumper | 2nd logger branch landed | 05:09 |
| * thumper EOYs | 05:09 | |
| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (247): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 36 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/247/ | 05:17 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (332): STILL FAILING in 8 min 28 sec: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/332/ | 05:26 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (333): STILL FAILING in 0.47 sec: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/333/ | 05:31 |
| wgrant | WTF Zope. | 05:45 |
| StevenK | $ bzr revision-info -d /mnt/test/launchpad/workspace/devel | 07:51 |
| StevenK | null | 07:51 |
| StevenK | Whee | 07:51 |
| spiv | StevenK: Hmm, not "0 null:"? | 07:52 |
| wgrant | Wow, we've really closed 208 bugs? | 08:29 |
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| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (248): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 15 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/248/ | 09:01 |
| LPCIBot | Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [rs=buildbot-poller] automatic merge from stable. Revisions: 12140 | 09:01 |
| LPCIBot | included. | 09:01 |
| danilos | wgrant, hi, just wanted to check if you have landed a fix for the interfaces for bug 685624? I didn't see any separate commits, but didn't have the time to look at it fully | 09:01 |
| _mup_ | Bug #685624: Translation template build jobs should use the new BuildFarmJob <bugjam2010> <lp-soyuz> <lp-translations> <qa-ok> <Launchpad itself:Fix Released by danilo> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/685624 > | 09:01 |
| wgrant | danilos: Totally forgot about that, sorry. | 09:02 |
| wgrant | Will do that now. | 09:02 |
| danilos | wgrant, ok, thanks | 09:02 |
| wgrant | danilos: Should I reuse that bug? | 09:04 |
| danilos | wgrant, yeah, please | 09:04 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (334): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 29 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/334/ | 09:27 |
| wgrant | danilos: Could you bless https://code.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/bug-685624-ttbj-build-interface/+merge/44558? | 10:02 |
| danilos | wgrant, blessed may it be! | 10:03 |
| wgrant | danilos: Thanks. | 10:04 |
| henninge | danilos: poimport.txt has a section called "Cron Scripts" that was either deleted in db-devel or added in devel. It's causing a merge conflict now. In or Out? | 10:06 |
| danilos | henninge, toss a coin... uhm, I don't know, we do want to have some basic testing for cron scripts so if it's not moved to a unit test, keep it :) | 10:08 |
| henninge | okay | 10:08 |
| wgrant | danilos: :( I don't think ec2 likes your review type very much. | 10:11 |
| danilos | wgrant, uhm, ok, I'll try fixing it | 10:11 |
| wgrant | I'm not sure if you can, but I guess we'll see shortly. | 10:12 |
| danilos | wgrant, seems to have worked fine | 10:12 |
| danilos | wgrant, sorry about the trouble :) | 10:13 |
| wgrant | danilos: Ah, great. Thanks. | 10:16 |
| wgrant | This more forgiving bugactivity grouping is nice. | 10:20 |
| danilos | wgrant, btw, we were finally able to get a clean slate of stable branch for rollout yesterday, just if you haven't noticed (I know you were waiting for a fix to be rolled out) | 10:25 |
| wgrant | danilos: I was pleasantly surprised this morning to find the deployment page empty. | 10:25 |
| wgrant | We still had two un-QA'd items when I went to sleep last night, so I wasn't too hopeful. | 10:26 |
| wgrant | Thanks for getting that deployed. | 10:26 |
| danilos | wgrant, your rollback was very helpful, thanks for doing it | 10:26 |
| wgrant | danilos: You needed that celebrity fix? | 10:26 |
| wgrant | So many revs lately that I cannot remember them all :( | 10:27 |
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| danilos | wgrant, btw, before you are gone (though you should be gone :), is there a way we can do something similar on production to re-uploading kde-l10n-sr .translations.tar.gz file you did on dogfood or should we ask packagers to re-upload it? | 10:44 |
| danilos | wgrant, or perhaps we can just do a rebuild? | 10:44 |
| wgrant | danilos: We can't do an explicit manual upload of the tarball to the source package, like we can with a project? | 10:45 |
| danilos | wgrant, no, unfortunately | 10:45 |
| wgrant | danilos: We'd have to do an upload to maverick-updates. | 10:46 |
| wgrant | The way I did it on DF was a little... unconventional. | 10:46 |
| danilos | wgrant, I know, just checking :) | 10:47 |
| wgrant | It involved a disturbing amount of conversation with psql. | 10:47 |
| danilos | wgrant, so, what about rebuilding, will that work, and can we do that? | 10:47 |
| danilos | wgrant, or will we have to have a re-upload with version change? | 10:47 |
| wgrant | danilos: We'd have to do a new upload to maverick-proposed. | 10:48 |
| danilos | wgrant, I am wondering because this is an ubuntu package | 10:48 |
| wgrant | And then we'd probably have to get an SRU exemption. | 10:48 |
| danilos | and I guess it wouldn't be very nice to change the package with the same version (though, package would stay the same, but dates would change) | 10:48 |
| danilos | wgrant, right, then I'll just ask Kubuntu people to do it, thanks | 10:49 |
| wgrant | Yeah, Riddell would probably be a good person to talk to. | 10:49 |
| danilos | was just looking to see if he's around :) | 10:49 |
| danilos | wgrant, fwiw, we don't have to release these packages, we just need to re-import translations | 10:50 |
| wgrant | danilos: So we could probably get away with accepting an upload to -proposed and then deleting it as soon as it builds. | 10:52 |
| wgrant | Without ever going through -updates. | 10:52 |
| danilos | wgrant, I wouldn't know enough about what I am doing there (i.e. I am totally unfamiliar with Ubuntu policies and also about "pockets" or whatever :) | 10:53 |
| danilos | wgrant, I'll see if Riddell has any ideas and if he'd like to do something like that | 10:53 |
| wgrant | Right. | 10:54 |
| wgrant | Good morning jml. | 11:10 |
| wgrant | Your Jamometer is looking much more healthy today. | 11:11 |
| jml | oooh | 11:11 |
| * jml looks | 11:11 | |
| jml | zowie! | 11:11 |
| jml | I gather we rolled out? | 11:11 |
| wgrant | Indeed we did. | 11:11 |
| wgrant | The deployment report was deliciously empty this morning. | 11:12 |
| jml | wow. | 11:13 |
| jml | "critical" doesn't mean what it used to. | 11:14 |
| wgrant | jml: Hm? | 11:23 |
| wgrant | You mean the critical bugs that have been sitting around for ages untouched? | 11:24 |
| jml | wgrant: yes | 11:33 |
| gmb | allenap: Do you know what the current EC2 image number is or how I'd find out? | 11:45 |
| gmb | (I ask because you're the last person to touch it, IIRC) | 11:46 |
| allenap | gmb: bin/ec2 images | 11:46 |
| gmb | Aha. | 11:46 |
| gmb | Ta | 11:46 |
| allenap | gmb: 503 | 11:46 |
| wgrant | Using machine image version 503 | 11:46 |
| jml | looking at bug 272304. I now recognize that error string. | 11:55 |
| _mup_ | Bug #272304: "User timeout caused connection failure." doesn't make sense <branch-puller> <confusing-ui> <lp-code> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/272304 > | 11:55 |
| gmb | allenap: When you updated the EC2 image, did you get a lot of nonsense about installing GRUB? | 12:06 |
| allenap | gmb: Mmm, don't remember :-/ | 12:07 |
| gmb | Hrm. | 12:07 |
| gmb | allenap: Did you base your image off the previous launchpad-ec2test image or did you base it off the official Lucid AMI? | 12:08 |
| allenap | gmb: Official. | 12:08 |
| gmb | Ok. | 12:08 |
| * gmb washes his hands of this weirdness, restarts the process. | 12:09 | |
| allenap | gmb: There are some instructions on how to do it on the wiki. I updated them last time I did it. | 12:09 |
| * allenap really goes now | 12:10 | |
| gmb | allenap: Yeah, that's what I'm following :) | 12:10 |
| jml | allenap, gmb: do you reckon all those story-foo tags should be "official"? | 12:15 |
| jml | (I'm guessing official means at least "visible on the front page") | 12:15 |
| jml | gah, you know what I mean by 'front'. | 12:16 |
| voidspace | where do I report a bug in launchapd? | 12:21 |
| gmb | jml: Well, they were made official out of laziness and i-can-never-type-things-right-the-first-time -ness. | 12:21 |
| jml | voidspace: bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug | 12:22 |
| voidspace | ah - that's right, I bug jml about it directly until it is fixed | 12:22 |
| voidspace | jml: no need, I can just hassle you instead | 12:22 |
| gmb | jml: I'm thoroughly ambivalent about their actual officialness. | 12:22 |
| voidspace | and where do I change my launchpad password? | 12:22 |
| jml | voidspace: a veritable blessing falls from the sky and on to my lap | 12:22 |
| voidspace | my account details page doesn't appear to provide that option... | 12:22 |
| jml | gmb: I guess once they aren't under active development the laziness factor is less important? | 12:23 |
| wgrant | voidspace: Check the link down the bottom of https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit | 12:24 |
| wgrant | voidspace: https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/51 | 12:24 |
| jml | wgrant: beat me by seconds | 12:24 |
| voidspace | ok - so if I click on my username in the top right of the page it appears to show an account page, from which I can edit all details except my password | 12:25 |
| voidspace | this does not compute ;-) | 12:25 |
| voidspace | anyway - thanks | 12:25 |
| wgrant | voidspace: There is a 'Change details' link on that page. | 12:25 |
| wgrant | Which goes to the page that I linked you to. | 12:25 |
| gmb | jml: Yeah. Actually, if you rephrase that as "story-* tags are considered official whilst the story is under active development" it doesn't sound like a half-bad rationale. | 12:26 |
| voidspace | ah right, I am on that page and don't see an option to change my password | 12:26 |
| wgrant | voidspace: It is a little awkward at the moment, since we are part-way through a migration to use OpenID for authentication. | 12:26 |
| wgrant | voidspace: Right, there is a link down the bottom to an FAQ about that. | 12:26 |
| jml | voidspace: yes, but if you actually read what wgrant says, there's a link at the bottom | 12:26 |
| voidspace | FFS | 12:26 |
| voidspace | thanks | 12:27 |
| jml | gmb: cool. | 12:27 |
| wgrant | Someone should throw the OpenID story at a squad next year and get this sorted out. | 12:27 |
| voidspace | aaaand I can't change my password to something memorable because of the damn password rules | 12:28 |
| voidspace | but I can leave it as the current weak password which also doesn't meet the rules... | 12:28 |
| voidspace | yay | 12:28 |
| wgrant | I've also avoided changing mine lately because I can't be stuffed respecting those rules :( | 12:29 |
| jml | gmb: I notice that a lot of the story-* tags are phrased incrementally (e.g. "refactor-log-api"). I think tags work a little better when they are more absolute (e.g. "patch-tracking"). | 12:29 |
| jml | gmb: this is by way of an observation, I can't think of any useful thing to actually *do* as a result. | 12:29 |
| gmb | jml: You're right, though. I think that those were "sub-stories" that grew as a result of us looking at a particular problem. As in "We can only do this part of $major_story when $minor_story is finished." so we make a tag for $minor_story to make it easier to track which bugs we need to fix first. | 12:35 |
| jml | makes sense | 12:36 |
| jml | wgrant: I wonder how much of the openid stuff can get cleaned up through bug fixes | 12:38 |
| wgrant | jml: I don't think it can be properly fixed until the divorce is compelte. | 12:38 |
| wgrant | Once the split is done, login.launchpad.net can go away,. | 12:38 |
| wgrant | And then confusion is eliminated. | 12:38 |
| jml | I see. | 12:38 |
| wgrant | (it cannot go away now, because forcing everyone through login.ubuntu.com would be suicide) | 12:39 |
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| jml | hmm. | 12:57 |
| jml | I wish there were an obvious choice for argument parsing stuff when writing a Python command-line app. | 12:58 |
| wgrant | jml: I like the look of argparse. But since it's 2.7, I still use OptionParser mostly. | 13:01 |
| wgrant | Is there anything better than OptionParser? | 13:01 |
| jml | wgrant: there's twisted.python.usage and stuff based on bzrlib.options | 13:01 |
| jml | (e.g. commandant) | 13:01 |
| jml | wgrant: and lifeless has a new, more experimental thing in testr. | 13:02 |
| wgrant | Oh, right, but those all have large external dependencies. | 13:02 |
| jml | yeah, exactly | 13:03 |
| stub | OptionParser is still pretty cool and can do a lot. Not that this is obvious from the badly layed out docs which are more a tutorial than a reference. | 13:19 |
| jml | what does searchTasks do when it's on person? | 13:22 |
| jml | 'related', it seems | 13:23 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (335): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 30 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/335/ | 14:11 |
| jml | what do we think about this format of output? http://paste.ubuntu.com/546931/ | 14:41 |
| jml | trying to prototype a command-line display of all Launchpad inventory | 14:42 |
| jelmer | jml: I think it makes sense to display MPs inline with the branches | 14:43 |
| jelmer | makes more sense than displaying them separately I mean | 14:43 |
| jml | jkakar: kind of related to that kanban board... | 14:43 |
| jml | jelmer: yeah, I think I agree. | 14:43 |
| jml | jelmer: you have a lot of stuff :) | 14:45 |
| jml | jelmer: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/546932/ | 14:47 |
| jelmer | jml: that's quite a useful overview, I forgot a lot of the stuff that's on that list :-) | 14:49 |
| jml | jelmer: yeah, there's some on mine that I'm deleting / abandoning now. | 14:49 |
| jml | jelmer: I guess I could try to make some HTML output so it's linked and better as a prototype for an actual LP page. | 14:50 |
| jelmer | jml: Actually, this is something I've been wondering about.. | 14:50 |
| jelmer | Is there any reason for not importing *all* Debian bugs? It'd be very neat to be able to browse my Debian bugs in lp. | 14:51 |
| jelmer | Just the sheer volume? | 14:51 |
| jml | jelmer: I don't know. gmb might. | 14:51 |
| jml | jelmer: I mean, it's the sort of thing we _should_ do. | 14:53 |
| * gmb reads scrollback | 14:56 | |
| gmb | jelmer, jml: We should be doing it, but we (originally) didn't because of the volume. The correct way to deal with it in the first instance, I think, would be to do a batched import. | 14:57 |
| jml | gmb: does the 'originally' imply that another reason came up? | 14:59 |
| gmb | jml: No. The only reason we don't do it now is because we don't do it now (i.e. we forgot to ever revisit the problem) | 15:01 |
| jelmer | should I file a bug ? | 15:01 |
| jml | that old chestnut :) | 15:01 |
| jml | gmb: thanks. | 15:01 |
| gmb | jelmer: I think there's one already, but feel free to take a look and file one if not. | 15:02 |
| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (249): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 36 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/249/ | 15:02 |
| jelmer | gmb: Thanks | 15:03 |
| jml | jelmer: also has this style of output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/546935/ | 15:03 |
| jelmer | jml: btw, it only seems to report upstream bugs/branches at the moment? | 15:04 |
| jelmer | jml: nice | 15:04 |
| jml | jelmer: no, it should get package branches / bugs | 15:04 |
| jml | but maybe the way it prints them out is wrong | 15:04 |
| jml | jelmer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/546936/ | 15:05 |
| jelmer | ah, it reports them under the upstream project | 15:05 |
| jelmer | I think most of my ubuntu-specific branches are team-owned | 15:06 |
| jml | jelmer: specifically, it just groups by target.name | 15:07 |
| jelmer | jml: ah | 15:08 |
| jelmer | jml: are you looking at this in preparation of e.g. a dashboard, or is this just random hacking? | 15:09 |
| jml | jelmer: a bit of both | 15:09 |
| jml | jelmer: I'd like to prototype a Launchpad dashboard, get a feel for the data etc. | 15:10 |
| jml | lp:~jml/+junk/whip has the code. would love it if you made it better. | 15:11 |
| jelmer | I might have a look :-) | 15:15 |
| jkakar | jml: Yeah, I should spend some more time on that kanban board and then announce it somewhere. I've been finding it quite useful. | 15:22 |
| jml | jkakar: http://people.canonical.com/~jml/jkakar-wip.html | 15:37 |
| jml | interesting | 15:41 |
| jml | how would I debug this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/546951/ | 15:45 |
| jkakar | jml: That's really cool. :) | 15:51 |
| jelmer | jml: perhaps it's related to the fact that bzrk is inactive? | 15:51 |
| jml | jelmer: yeah, I think so. | 15:51 |
| jml | jelmer: I hacked around it | 15:51 |
| jml | jkakar: thanks. it's certainly the start of something that could be quite cool. | 15:52 |
| jkakar | jml: Yeah, I've wanted something like that for a while. It sounds like it, or something like it, would be nice to have in my kanban project. | 15:54 |
| jml | jkakar: I'm not at all convinced that kanban-style presentation is the best way to go. | 15:55 |
| jkakar | jml: I find it useful as a high-level view, but yeah, it's not a golden hammer. | 15:56 |
| jkakar | jml: I was thinking something more like the "list of stuff" that you have, integrated into the kanban system, could be useful. | 15:56 |
| jml | jkakar: *nod* | 15:57 |
| jkakar | jml: One thing I noticed about your thing is that it lists branches that have been proposed for merged and 'Rejected'. | 15:59 |
| jml | jkakar: yes. it also lists MPs for Abandoned branches. | 15:59 |
| jml | jkakar: I'm not sure if that's a bug in Launchpad or a bug in the thing. | 16:00 |
| jkakar | jml: In the two cases I see in my listing (lp:~jkakar/storm/resultselect and lp:~jkakar/storm/resultset-expression) they're both things that I don't really care about anymore, but I also don't want to delete the branches. | 16:00 |
| jml | jkakar: "Abandoned" is your friend. | 16:00 |
| jkakar | jml: Ah, I didn't even know about it. :) | 16:00 |
| jml | jkakar: similarly, marking a branch as "Mature" or linking it to a series will get it off the list. | 16:04 |
| jkakar | jml: Hmm, weird. :/ | 16:04 |
| jml | I don't know that it's so weird. | 16:05 |
| jkakar | jml: I don't understand what "Mature" means or why linking to a series would get it off that list. | 16:06 |
| jml | jkakar: because lp:foo or lp:foo/2.1 is unlikely to be work-in-prorgess | 16:06 |
| jkakar | jml: I see. So what does 'Mature' mean? | 16:07 |
| jml | jkakar: no-one knows what Mature means. Here I'm using it as a convenient way to let people say "this branch isn't abandoned, it should appear on listings, but it's not really intended to ever be merged anywhere" | 16:07 |
| jkakar | jml: Hehe, cool. :) | 16:07 |
| jml | jkakar: so, for example, I've marked some of my unofficial VCS imports as Mature | 16:10 |
| jml | jkakar: and my fork of pyflakes that supports lazy imports | 16:11 |
| jkakar | jml: Right, makes sense. | 16:11 |
| jkakar | jml: Is the script that you used to generate the wip HTML page on Launchpad somewhere? | 16:11 |
| jml | jkakar: yes. all the details are here: http://code.mumak.net/ | 16:11 |
| jml | jkakar: I mean, lp:~jml/+junk/whip | 16:12 |
| jml | (I have also blogged) | 16:12 |
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| sidnei | what is the reviewers channel again? | 16:25 |
| bac | #launchpad-reviews | 16:31 |
| bac | henninge: have you seen the failure on db-devel related to MockLogger. Looks like some tests were not updated. | 16:31 |
| henninge | bac: no, I have not | 16:32 |
| bac | henninge: r12141 updated poimport.txt but your branch did not, for example. | 16:33 |
| henninge | bac: this is poimport-script.txt, though | 16:33 |
| danilos | bac, it might be thumper's "mock logger consolidation" branch | 16:34 |
| bac | yes, poimport-script.txt, i meant | 16:34 |
| bac | danilos: yes, that is the branch i think henning was trying to merge into db-devel | 16:34 |
| henninge | bac: that is true | 16:34 |
| henninge | but I only resolved a merge conflict in poimport.txt. | 16:35 |
| danilos | anyone knows how are script names related to config sections? | 16:35 |
| henninge | I am sorry, though, I have to leave right now. I cannot look into it any further. | 16:35 |
| bac | henninge: so do we think thumper's branch is the original culprit then? | 16:36 |
| henninge | bac: yes, in relation to db-devel differing a lot currently because of the recife branch having been merged into it. | 16:36 |
| henninge | differing in translations | 16:37 |
| henninge | danilos, bac: would either oof you be so kind and have a closer look, please? I really have to go. | 16:37 |
| danilos | henninge, that's not a lot, that was barely 25k lines of diff when merged ;) | 16:37 |
| bac | thanks henninge. i just wanted to get your take on what was going on | 16:38 |
| henninge | sure, you got it ;) | 16:38 |
| henninge | bac: Have a great Christmas! | 16:38 |
| bac | you too | 16:39 |
| bac | danilos: poimport-script.txt is in db-devel but not trunk. was it supposed to be removed/ | 16:42 |
| danilos | bac, I am not sure, I'll check | 16:43 |
| * bac is unsure how to get bzr to tell about deleted files | 16:45 | |
| danilos | bac, it needs to be removed, test was replaced with a unit test lib/lp/translations/scripts/tests/test_translations_import.py | 16:46 |
| danilos | bac, if you feel trigger happy, r=danilo for that :) | 16:46 |
| danilos | bac, otherwise, I'll get to it a bit later after I am done shuffling a few WIP tasks | 16:47 |
| bac | danilos: it was easier just to fix the test. i'll submit a testfix branch in a bit | 17:00 |
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| danilos | bac, easier? it's a duplicate test, that's why it was removed in the first place :) | 17:02 |
| danilos | bac, though thanks anyway :) | 17:03 |
| bac | danilos: but the replacement has not landed in db yet | 17:03 |
| danilos | bac, no? that's where I see it so it's weird | 17:03 |
| bac | danilos: oh, you are right. i just assumed the branch that introduced the new one had deleted the old. | 17:05 |
| bac | danilos: i'll just zap it then | 17:05 |
| danilos | bac, cool, thanks | 17:05 |
| leonardr | jml, can you tell me about LaunchpadBranchLander or point me to someone who can? | 17:23 |
| leonardr | i'm trying to figure out what to do with its call to login_with, which is about to be deprecated | 17:23 |
| leonardr | is this a script people will run from their desktops? | 17:23 |
| jml | leonardr: can you give me some more context? a URL? a filename? | 17:23 |
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| leonardr | jml: sure | 17:25 |
| leonardr | lib/devscripts/autoland.py | 17:25 |
| jml | oh | 17:25 |
| leonardr | it could be something you run yourself or it could be something run automatically on the ec2 instance | 17:25 |
| leonardr | i can't tell | 17:25 |
| jml | leonardr: that's 'ec2 land' | 17:25 |
| jml | leonardr: it's used only in cmd_land in devscripts/ec2test/builtins.py | 17:26 |
| jml | leonardr: it's a script that developers run from their desktops. | 17:26 |
| leonardr | jml: ok, so it's all right if it causes a browser open | 17:26 |
| jml | leonardr: indeed. | 17:27 |
| allenap | leonardr: I'm not going to finish your review before I go. I'll probably be back online in about 3 hours for a while. Is it urgent? | 17:29 |
| leonardr | allenap: not at all | 17:29 |
| allenap | leonardr: Okay, I'll either finish it this evening or have it done by the time you start tomorrow. | 17:30 |
| leonardr | allenap: today's my last day for the rest of the year, so don't rush | 17:32 |
| allenap | leonardr: Don't tell me that or I'll procrastinate until January ;) | 17:33 |
| allenap | leonardr: Have a good holiday. | 17:33 |
| leonardr | thanks, you too | 17:34 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (336): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 5 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/336/ | 17:37 |
| LPCIBot | Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=danilo][ui=none][bug=685624] Let | 17:37 |
| LPCIBot | TranslationTemplatesBuildJob.build through the security proxy. | 17:37 |
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| lifeless | jml: have you looked at my persistence science-fiction? | 17:49 |
| jml | lifeless: no. I skimmed the discussion on the list. | 17:50 |
| jml | lifeless: I might take a look tomorrow. | 17:50 |
| jelmer | ec2 test/land appears to be broken on natty - has anybody looked into that yet? | 18:01 |
| jml | jelmer: perhaps that's what leonardr was just talking about. | 18:04 |
| leonardr | jelmer: what's the error? | 18:04 |
| jelmer | <Response><Errors><Error><Code>AuthFailure</Code><Message>AWS was not able to validate the provided access credentials</Message></Error></Errors><RequestID>26328b8e-9dd8-4cba-af10-746d34227953</RequestID></Response> | 18:05 |
| jelmer | I can reproduce it on two natty machines, and the lucid partition (with the same home dir as one of the natty installs) works fine. | 18:05 |
| jelmer | leonardr: is that the same as you were seeing? | 18:09 |
| leonardr | jelmer: i'm not testing it, i was inspecting code for problems with a branch i'm working on | 18:10 |
| leonardr | that looks like a problem between you and aws, not related to the launchpad web service | 18:10 |
| jelmer | That's what I was thinking, but it's strange that it works fine in my lucid install with the same credentials. | 18:11 |
| jelmer | I'll investigate further. | 18:11 |
| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (250): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 14 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/250/ | 18:30 |
| LPCIBot | Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [rs=buildbot-poller] automatic merge from stable. Revisions: 12142 | 18:30 |
| LPCIBot | included. | 18:30 |
| lifeless | grr | 18:34 |
| lifeless | something has broken feature flag timeouts :( | 18:34 |
| jcsackett | can someone tell me where to look to find the javascript responsible for controlling the spinner that shows on the merge proposal status when you change status? | 18:47 |
| lifeless | jcsackett: you pinged me yesterday | 18:47 |
| jcsackett | ah, yes i did, lifeless. | 18:47 |
| jcsackett | it's in relation to a bug you filed, let me dig tat up. | 18:48 |
| jcsackett | lifeless, bug 691846. i was wondering what url facilities you were thinking of? urllib/urllib2 can't handle all of those protocols to my knowledge, but perhaps you're thinking of something i'm unaware of? | 18:49 |
| _mup_ | Bug #691846: hardcoded list of protocols for urlification is a maintenance burden and duplicate code <bugjam2010> <tech-debt> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/691846 > | 18:49 |
| lifeless | jcsackett: urls follow a generic ruleset | 18:51 |
| lifeless | any url parser can parse all urls unless its totally broken - see ietf std 66 | 18:51 |
| lifeless | [the python stdlib url parser may be totally broken; I've had to monkey patch it before]. That said, | 18:52 |
| lifeless | there are broadly two sorts of urls | 18:52 |
| lifeless | path like urls | 18:52 |
| lifeless | and non-path like urls | 18:52 |
| lifeless | parsers are meant to handle both, at least as far as scheme, otherstuff | 18:53 |
| lifeless | secondly, we have our own url facilities in Launchpad | 18:53 |
| jcsackett | the second point was what i assumed--i am unaware of such facilities, but figured they existed. | 18:53 |
| lifeless | for the record, urlparse supports ftp, http, gopher, nntp, impa, wais, file https shttp snew prospero rtsp rtspu rsync svn svn+ssh sftp nfs git git+ssh, and we use it directly in bzr after extending the urlparse.uses_netloc whitelist | 18:55 |
| lifeless | thats a rather more extensive scheme list than your patch used, I think :) | 18:55 |
| jcsackett | lifeless: i wasn't actually aware of the urlparse lib. :-) | 18:56 |
| jcsackett | that seems quite sufficient, thanks. :-P | 18:56 |
| lifeless | you want urlparse.urlsplit I think | 18:57 |
| jcsackett | lifeless: that or urlparse.urlparse, it looks like. | 18:57 |
| jcsackett | thanks. | 18:57 |
| lifeless | throw some empty things at it | 18:57 |
| lifeless | no, urlsplit | 18:57 |
| lifeless | you have stuff that *isn't* a valid http url | 18:57 |
| jcsackett | lifeless: true. ok. | 18:57 |
| lifeless | that you want to see is just http, for instance. | 18:57 |
| lifeless | urlsplit should handle that, as I read it | 18:57 |
| jcsackett | cool. thanks again. | 19:04 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: hi, around? | 19:08 |
| gary_poster | lifeless, hi, yes | 19:09 |
| lifeless | I just found myself filing a dup of https://bugs.launchpad.net/oops-tools/+bug/677299 | 19:09 |
| _mup_ | Bug #677299: please always report at least one of each pageid that times out in the 'lpnet' daily summary <OOPS Tools:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/677299 > | 19:09 |
| lifeless | I'm wondering if your team has the bandwidth to do something stopgap in that area. | 19:10 |
| gary_poster | heh, not for the rest of the year. | 19:10 |
| lifeless | I appreciate that grouping differently is tricky and hard | 19:11 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: ok, I guess we'll see what the brand new year brings :) | 19:11 |
| gary_poster | :-) ok | 19:11 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: I'm going to triage that up to high though | 19:11 |
| lifeless | this cost me 15 minutes today | 19:12 |
| lifeless | (and yes, I'm still on leave :) | 19:12 |
| lifeless | anyhow, have a great xmas or whatever you call it over there :) | 19:13 |
| gary_poster | lifeless: high: ack. let's circle around at start of year--several people will be pedaling hard to tie various things up before the team disperses at thunderdome but maybe we can fit things in then. | 19:14 |
| gary_poster | have a great holiday also | 19:14 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: hmm, my previous came across overly grumpy; sorry about that. | 19:15 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: I agree, and understand. | 19:15 |
| gary_poster | :-) no worries | 19:15 |
| lifeless | I suspect in the new structure we need to move all the subprojects to canonical-engineering team maintenance | 19:15 |
| lifeless | rather than qa-team, etc | 19:15 |
| gary_poster | agree | 19:15 |
| lifeless | then ask folk to save bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?field.priority=high as their go-to search | 19:16 |
| lifeless | or something like that | 19:16 |
| gary_poster | yeah | 19:16 |
| * lifeless will worry about it in the new year | 19:16 | |
| gary_poster | good idea :-) | 19:16 |
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| LPCIBot | Project db-devel build (251): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 9 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/251/ | 21:40 |
| LPCIBot | Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [testfix][r=danilos][ui=none][no-qa] Remove redundant test. | 21:40 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (337): STILL FAILING in 3 hr 33 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/337/ | 23:14 |
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