[02:35] <Guest37518> hello?
[02:36] <Guest37518> hi
[02:36] <Guest37518> hi
[02:36] <Guest37518> hi
[03:04] <nit-wit> Guest37518, talking to yourself.:)
[04:03] <Guest83939> !nick
[04:03] <newnick> !register
[04:05] <IdleOne> if you plan on using Ubuntu channels I suggest not using that nick
[04:06] <IdleOne> onetonturd: Please change your nick to something more family friendly.
[04:17] <juk> hey guys volume control on the panel is gone
[04:21] <sagaci> which to install from, alpha 1 or the latest daily
[04:21] <nit-wit> sagaci, daily
[04:22] <sagaci> oh, separate amd64+mac isos
[04:22] <nit-wit> sagaci, ??
[04:23] <sagaci> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20101222/
[04:24] <juk> hi is volume control on the panel is gone recently
[04:24] <nit-wit> sagaci, I tried to get that build to work not to well but todays upgrades from the US servers got the installed Natty purring you might go alpha or wait for the next daily your choice really
[04:25] <nit-wit> juk, how about the envelope they are separate in natty correct.
[04:28] <nit-wit> juk, run in the terminal gnome-volume-control-applet and see if one shows. If it does just put that in a command for startup applications in  preferences. the one generated in the terminal will disappear at closing the terminal. also the fn key held down and the up down arrows on the keyboard control volume.
[04:33] <juk> nit-wit: yeah, got old gnome volume control, thanks, fn - yes i know, it's on my laptop, on pc i use ctrl+]/[ since no fn key
[04:34] <nit-wit> juk, most people know about the fn control but it doesn't hurt to mention it. you just going to put that command in startup applications.
[04:37] <juk> nit-wit: agree, yes i did
[04:40] <nit-wit> juk, early on in Natty I was not able to get the gnome volume to work glad to hear it does now.
[04:44] <juk> nit-wit: thank you
[09:39] <H4F> Hi all, After one of the update my system brokes
[09:39] <H4F> now I am working from livecd trying to restore
[09:40] <H4F> I chrooted the installation system
[09:40] <H4F> when doing apt-get upgrade or dpkg -configure -a I have the many errors
[09:41] <H4F> first error is "Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory"
[09:42] <H4F> may be I didnt mount something before chrooting ? any one have an idea ?
[09:43] <weside> hi
[09:47] <H4F> ok guys I think I fixed the issue with Dbus. I exited chroot and mounted "mount --bind /var/run/dbus/ chroot/var/run/dbus/" then chrooted back
[09:53] <H4F> I still have one error "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files"
[12:25] <nperry> All you virtualbox box users
[12:25] <nperry> Install virtualbox 4
[12:25] <nperry> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog
[12:25] <nperry> 3D support: fixed Unity/Compiz crashes on natty
[12:26] <nperry> Enjoy
[12:46] <htorque> nperry, yeah, that's good news for vbox testers :-)
[13:12] <coz_> hey all
[13:39] <Ian_Corne> yeah jrib gdm broke :(
[13:41] <yofel> well, the only gtk related thing that's broken here is that I can't copy & paste from firefox and thunderbird anymore :(
[13:43] <coz_> mm let me try the firefox copy / paste...  yofel   what were you trying to copy paste?
[13:43] <Ian_Corne> yofel: I couldn't copy paste from anywhere anymore
[13:44] <yofel> *anything* - even xclipboard doesn't work anymore
[13:44] <coz_> yofel,  I just highlighted and middle clicked in gedit from firefox.... seems to work
[13:44] <yofel> well, any kde app works fine, but every gtk app is broken here
[13:46] <coz_> yofel,   mm  when I copy paste from firefox it works here...and I have bot kde and gnome stuff onboard unless I am not understanding :(
[13:46] <yofel> maybe it's just minefield, I'll look into it later
[13:46] <coz_> yofel,  it could be  and actually I am using swiftfox  here  ,, i dont like firefox 4
[14:14] <coz_> ok breakfast time  ,, be back in a bit
[14:44] <dnivra> i was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/682852. it says [Needs Packaging]. what exactly is to be done?
[14:45] <jrib> !packaging
[14:45] <jrib> dnivra: is the NewPackages link what you want?
[14:47] <dnivra> jrib, reading it now
[14:48] <dnivra> suppose a package is built in ubuntu, is it edubuntu compatible?
[14:49] <jrib> dnivra: yep
[14:49] <jrib> dnivra: edubuntu uses the same repositories, it just has a different set of default packages installed by default
[14:50] <dnivra> jrib, oh! it's like that for all official OS of ubuntu family-ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu etc? shared repositories?
[14:51] <dnivra> i read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages-it links to packaging guide but what do I do after creating the deb file. what do I have to upload? if i fix a but, i upload a debdiff. in case of packaging?
[14:51] <jrib> dnivra: yep
[14:52] <dnivra> bug* not but :)
[14:53] <jrib> dnivra: read the "Going through motu" part.  #ubuntu-motu is a good place for help with this.  Also, eventually you should get the package into debian too (if it gets into debian it automatically gets into ubuntu, so you help more people)
[14:54] <dnivra> jrib, sure i'll check out the links and #ubuntu-motu for more on this.
[14:55] <dnivra> jrib, if i get it into debian, don't i have to be the package maintainer? in ubuntu, it is always 'Ubuntu Developers' right? works the same in debian too?
[14:57] <jrib> dnivra: not sure
[14:57] <dnivra> jrib, okay then. i'll check it out in debian. will go ask their IRC. thanks a lot for the links!
[14:58] <jrib> dnivra: yep, they have a packaging channel too but I don't know it offhand
[14:58] <dnivra> jrib, no problem. i'll find it out. google :) thanks a lot!
[14:59] <jrib> dnivra: yeah, there should be a link somewhere on the wiki about contributing to debian too
[15:00] <dnivra> jrib, #debian-newmaint on OFTC i think.
[15:00] <jrib> sounds about right
[15:01] <dnivra> topics asks me to head to #debian-mentors
[15:01] <dnivra> :)
[15:01] <dnivra> topic*
[15:03] <dnivra> jrib, would building the package on ubuntu make it compatible with debian? and would debian accept it? or would they ask me to build it on debian again?
[15:05] <jrib> dnivra: in most cases, yes.  But you should setup some sort of debian build environment to do it.  They can probably advise you better than me in that debian channel
[15:05] <dnivra> jrib, no response there so just thought i'd get a basic idea. i'll figure it out there. thanks!
[15:07] <jrib> dnivra: if you build for natty, packages will likely be similar to debian unstable, so you should be okay
[15:08] <wzssyqa> bug #693737
[15:08] <dnivra> jrib, fair enough then. i'll keep pinging debian channel too.
[15:09] <wzssyqa> OMG, just recovery
[15:09] <jrib> wzssyqa: eh?
[15:10] <wzssyqa> jrib: topic
[15:10] <jrib> wzssyqa: did that affect you too?
[15:11] <wzssyqa> jrib: y, thanks to btrfs
[15:49] <AlanBell> hi all
[15:50] <AlanBell> just tried booting todays alternate CD, works in virtualbox but not on real hardware
[15:51] <AlanBell> doesn't get to the point of asking languages, just get an unthemed grub menu and all of the options hang on a blank screen with a small white cursor top left
[16:21] <hggdh> nice. I now have nothing in gnome-panel -- indicator-applet, nm-applet, everything vanished
[16:39] <jMCg> I'm a terrible tester. I've gotten used to all of these things.
[16:42] <charlie-tca> heh, at least in Xubuntu we get to watch them shrink and disappear
[16:45] <hggdh> I thjink it is the gtk2.23... I will wait for an update, easier than downgrading
[16:47] <Amaranth> hggdh: hrm, most of the desktop team is gone for about a week
[16:48] <Amaranth> hggdh: From what I've been able to tell, anyway
[16:48] <hggdh> Amaranth: yes, Canonical will be off next week
[16:48] <Amaranth> hggdh: So you'll be a week without indicators :)
[16:49] <hggdh> Amaranth: heh. Perhaps I should downgrade, then :-)
[16:49] <charlie-tca> hggdh: did you see VBox 4.0 is out with 3d support?
[16:49] <Amaranth> charlie-tca: they specifically mentioned fixing compiz/unity on natty in the changelog :)
[16:50] <hggdh> charlie-tca: no, I had not. Interesting, now we can play with unity on a VM :-)
[16:50] <Amaranth> I can't, palm tools don't support 4.0 yet
[16:50] <Amaranth> Well, I think I can get away with two installs, actually...
[16:50] <charlie-tca> but it works, too.
[16:50] <Amaranth> oh well, I'm already using natty on my main machine
[16:51] <charlie-tca> Of course, now you also need the extension pack to get usb2
[16:52] <hggdh> ah well.
[16:52]  * hggdh goes checking upstream VBox
[16:52] <charlie-tca> but at least I can test in VBox again
[17:02] <vish> Amaranth: whoa! unity is possible in VB4?
[17:02] <vish> has anyone tried it?
[17:04] <rumpel> Visual Basic?
[17:04] <vish> VirtualBox
[17:05] <vish> charlie-tca might have tested it i guess "<charlie-tca> but it works, too."
[17:05] <rumpel> ah... k
[17:05] <charlie-tca> No, I didn't test unity
[17:05] <charlie-tca> I haven't been able to VBox to do any installs
[17:05] <vish> yea, i was not sure :)
[17:06] <charlie-tca> Let me try it
[17:07] <charlie-tca> starting the live cd in VBox, let's find out
[17:12] <charlie-tca> hm, fails here with my Nvidia video card, maybe I got the settings wrong
[17:20] <charlie-tca> vish: how to install guest additions on the live environment that won't start without 3d?
[17:21] <vish> hmm, i dont think we can do it for a live cd..
[17:21] <vish> charlie-tca: it needs a reboot once we install the guest additions
[17:21] <charlie-tca> so much for unity in VBox 4 live then
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Maybe it will work for an installed image, but not for the live image?
[17:22] <vish> i think we could install a virtual machine and then try to use is..
[17:22] <vish> charlie-tca: yea..
[17:23] <charlie-tca> But, hey, there are several changes in version 4, I might have to just play with it to get it right, too
[17:29] <mongy> login to the 'fallback' gnome, install additions, logout/login to unity
[17:33] <charlie-tca> that is a nice plan. Boot the desktop cd, pick Try Ubuntu, and do that?
[17:33] <coz_> hey guys.. real quick before I reboot... anyone having issues with gnome-panel broken ?
[17:34] <coz_> today's updates seem to have broken gnome-panel in classic gnome
[17:34] <Amaranth> coz_: yeah, everyone seems to be getting that
[17:35]  * Amaranth was just about to pull the trigger on an apt-get upgrade before people started talking about it
[17:35] <coz_> Amaranth,  oh ok thanks :)
[17:36] <coz_> well at least I can reboot  and killall gnome panel :)
[18:11] <charlie-tca> Well, to be sure, Unity does run in virtualbox 4.0 now with guest additions installed!
[18:42] <Pici> jadd: The bug linked in the topic is likely relevant to your issue.
[18:43] <jadd> Pici: can i do a downgrade to that one before ?
[18:44] <IdleOne> jadd: see the comments in the bug
[18:48] <jadd> k thanks
[19:21] <alfa> ciao
[19:21] <alfa> qualcuno?
[19:26] <[lan3y]> Hi, i am having problems with gnome on 11.04, the top panel is not showing any notification symbols in the right hand corner (wifi account name ect) how do i fix this panel?
[19:28] <nit-wit> [lan3y], are you updated and which servers are you using what country?
[19:31] <[lan3y]> i;ve found it now, im another victim of the new GTK+2.0 package
[19:36] <[lan3y]> how do i downgrade it again?
[19:45] <[lan3y]> nit-wit, i keep getting errors when  i try and downgrade
[19:47] <nit-wit> [lan3y], downgrade what's the meaning of that
[19:47] <[lan3y]> the bug for the problem i got says downgrade the package
[19:48] <nit-wit> [lan3y], and how does it do that or do you go to synaptic and get the earlier reinstalled
[21:09] <matrixa1> i bet somebody already has noticed this, but the latest updates have nuked most gnome-panel applets
[21:14] <charlie-tca> see the topic
[21:14] <charlie-tca> oops. You are correct, matrixa1
[21:14] <charlie-tca> It has been noticed...
[21:22] <matrixa1> ah that explains it
[21:23] <matrixa1> didn't read the topic tbh
[21:25] <charlie-tca> I read the topic everytime it changes and I am in the channel. But read it when logging in???
[21:26]  * charlie-tca thinks it is a good idea, though :-)
[21:32] <patdk-wk> there be a topic? :)
[21:38] <charlie-tca> I don't know if there is when I first log in to the channel ;-)
[22:00] <leagris> Hope noone will kill compiz enhanced zoom. As a visually impaired, this tool is an unavoidable extraordinary help.
[22:01] <leagris> I left trying to run Kde4 because the same feature is a pain without mouse wheel event ton control zooming.
[22:02]  * leagris missing the resolution agnostic CRTs. Now I can't use an LCD display without extensive dynamic zooming.
[22:05] <charlie-tca> +1
[22:43] <BUGabundo> oi
[22:43] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo
[23:19] <BUGabundo> ON NOES
[23:19] <BUGabundo> recent X update is broken
[23:19] <BUGabundo> can't copy or paste :S
[23:20] <yofel> welcome to the club
[23:20] <charlie-tca> Happy Holidays :-)
[23:21] <BUGabundo> ahahahahaa
[23:21] <BUGabundo> what's the bug id?
[23:23] <yofel> did anyone report that yet? I didn't get to it yet
[23:23] <BUGabundo> I'm busy re-flashing my phone, putting mail into zero, and spamming all my contact list with a xtmas message!
[23:23] <BUGabundo> you ?