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Guest37518hello?02:35
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nit-witGuest37518, talking to yourself.:)03:04
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IdleOneif you plan on using Ubuntu channels I suggest not using that nick04:05
IdleOneonetonturd: Please change your nick to something more family friendly.04:06
jukhey guys volume control on the panel is gone04:17
sagaciwhich to install from, alpha 1 or the latest daily04:21
nit-witsagaci, daily04:21
sagacioh, separate amd64+mac isos04:22
nit-witsagaci, ??04:22
sagacihttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20101222/04:23
jukhi is volume control on the panel is gone recently04:24
nit-witsagaci, I tried to get that build to work not to well but todays upgrades from the US servers got the installed Natty purring you might go alpha or wait for the next daily your choice really04:24
nit-witjuk, how about the envelope they are separate in natty correct.04:25
nit-witjuk, run in the terminal gnome-volume-control-applet and see if one shows. If it does just put that in a command for startup applications in  preferences. the one generated in the terminal will disappear at closing the terminal. also the fn key held down and the up down arrows on the keyboard control volume.04:28
juknit-wit: yeah, got old gnome volume control, thanks, fn - yes i know, it's on my laptop, on pc i use ctrl+]/[ since no fn key04:33
nit-witjuk, most people know about the fn control but it doesn't hurt to mention it. you just going to put that command in startup applications.04:34
juknit-wit: agree, yes i did04:37
nit-witjuk, early on in Natty I was not able to get the gnome volume to work glad to hear it does now.04:40
juknit-wit: thank you04:44
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H4FHi all, After one of the update my system brokes09:39
H4Fnow I am working from livecd trying to restore09:39
H4FI chrooted the installation system09:40
H4Fwhen doing apt-get upgrade or dpkg -configure -a I have the many errors09:40
H4Ffirst error is "Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory"09:41
H4Fmay be I didnt mount something before chrooting ? any one have an idea ?09:42
wesidehi09:43
H4Fok guys I think I fixed the issue with Dbus. I exited chroot and mounted "mount --bind /var/run/dbus/ chroot/var/run/dbus/" then chrooted back09:47
H4FI still have one error "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files"09:53
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nperryAll you virtualbox box users12:25
nperryInstall virtualbox 412:25
nperryhttp://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog12:25
nperry3D support: fixed Unity/Compiz crashes on natty12:25
nperryEnjoy12:26
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htorquenperry, yeah, that's good news for vbox testers :-)12:46
coz_hey all13:12
=== jrib changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Natty Narwhal 11.04 | Milestones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | Alpha 1 Released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 | Version 2.23.3 of libgtk2.0-0 appears to be broken and causing major issues for some, don't upgrade until it's fixed
Ian_Corneyeah jrib gdm broke :(13:39
yofelwell, the only gtk related thing that's broken here is that I can't copy & paste from firefox and thunderbird anymore :(13:41
coz_mm let me try the firefox copy / paste...  yofel   what were you trying to copy paste?13:43
Ian_Corneyofel: I couldn't copy paste from anywhere anymore13:43
yofel*anything* - even xclipboard doesn't work anymore13:44
coz_yofel,  I just highlighted and middle clicked in gedit from firefox.... seems to work13:44
yofelwell, any kde app works fine, but every gtk app is broken here13:44
coz_yofel,   mm  when I copy paste from firefox it works here...and I have bot kde and gnome stuff onboard unless I am not understanding :(13:46
yofelmaybe it's just minefield, I'll look into it later13:46
coz_yofel,  it could be  and actually I am using swiftfox  here  ,, i dont like firefox 413:46
coz_ok breakfast time  ,, be back in a bit14:14
=== jrib changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Natty Narwhal 11.04 | Milestones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | Alpha 1 Released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 | Version 2.23.3 of libgtk2.0-0 appears to be broken and causing major issues for some, don't upgrade until it's fixed (bug #693737)
dnivrai was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/682852. it says [Needs Packaging]. what exactly is to be done?14:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 682852 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] OpenTeacher" [Wishlist,Confirmed]14:44
jrib!packaging14:45
ubottuThe packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports14:45
jribdnivra: is the NewPackages link what you want?14:45
dnivrajrib, reading it now14:47
dnivrasuppose a package is built in ubuntu, is it edubuntu compatible?14:48
jribdnivra: yep14:49
jribdnivra: edubuntu uses the same repositories, it just has a different set of default packages installed by default14:49
dnivrajrib, oh! it's like that for all official OS of ubuntu family-ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu etc? shared repositories?14:50
dnivrai read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages-it links to packaging guide but what do I do after creating the deb file. what do I have to upload? if i fix a but, i upload a debdiff. in case of packaging?14:51
jribdnivra: yep14:51
dnivrabug* not but :)14:52
jribdnivra: read the "Going through motu" part.  #ubuntu-motu is a good place for help with this.  Also, eventually you should get the package into debian too (if it gets into debian it automatically gets into ubuntu, so you help more people)14:53
dnivrajrib, sure i'll check out the links and #ubuntu-motu for more on this.14:54
dnivrajrib, if i get it into debian, don't i have to be the package maintainer? in ubuntu, it is always 'Ubuntu Developers' right? works the same in debian too?14:55
jribdnivra: not sure14:57
dnivrajrib, okay then. i'll check it out in debian. will go ask their IRC. thanks a lot for the links!14:57
jribdnivra: yep, they have a packaging channel too but I don't know it offhand14:58
dnivrajrib, no problem. i'll find it out. google :) thanks a lot!14:58
jribdnivra: yeah, there should be a link somewhere on the wiki about contributing to debian too14:59
dnivrajrib, #debian-newmaint on OFTC i think.15:00
jribsounds about right15:00
dnivratopics asks me to head to #debian-mentors15:01
dnivra:)15:01
dnivratopic*15:01
dnivrajrib, would building the package on ubuntu make it compatible with debian? and would debian accept it? or would they ask me to build it on debian again?15:03
jribdnivra: in most cases, yes.  But you should setup some sort of debian build environment to do it.  They can probably advise you better than me in that debian channel15:05
dnivrajrib, no response there so just thought i'd get a basic idea. i'll figure it out there. thanks!15:05
jribdnivra: if you build for natty, packages will likely be similar to debian unstable, so you should be okay15:07
wzssyqabug #69373715:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 693737 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "gtk+2.0 update 2.23.3-1ubuntu2 update triggers repeated gdm greeter crashes" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69373715:08
dnivrajrib, fair enough then. i'll keep pinging debian channel too.15:08
wzssyqaOMG, just recovery15:09
jribwzssyqa: eh?15:09
wzssyqajrib: topic15:10
jribwzssyqa: did that affect you too?15:10
wzssyqajrib: y, thanks to btrfs15:11
AlanBellhi all15:49
AlanBelljust tried booting todays alternate CD, works in virtualbox but not on real hardware15:50
AlanBelldoesn't get to the point of asking languages, just get an unthemed grub menu and all of the options hang on a blank screen with a small white cursor top left15:51
hggdhnice. I now have nothing in gnome-panel -- indicator-applet, nm-applet, everything vanished16:21
jMCgI'm a terrible tester. I've gotten used to all of these things.16:39
charlie-tcaheh, at least in Xubuntu we get to watch them shrink and disappear16:42
hggdhI thjink it is the gtk2.23... I will wait for an update, easier than downgrading16:45
Amaranthhggdh: hrm, most of the desktop team is gone for about a week16:47
Amaranthhggdh: From what I've been able to tell, anyway16:48
hggdhAmaranth: yes, Canonical will be off next week16:48
Amaranthhggdh: So you'll be a week without indicators :)16:48
hggdhAmaranth: heh. Perhaps I should downgrade, then :-)16:49
charlie-tcahggdh: did you see VBox 4.0 is out with 3d support?16:49
Amaranthcharlie-tca: they specifically mentioned fixing compiz/unity on natty in the changelog :)16:49
hggdhcharlie-tca: no, I had not. Interesting, now we can play with unity on a VM :-)16:50
AmaranthI can't, palm tools don't support 4.0 yet16:50
AmaranthWell, I think I can get away with two installs, actually...16:50
charlie-tcabut it works, too.16:50
Amaranthoh well, I'm already using natty on my main machine16:50
charlie-tcaOf course, now you also need the extension pack to get usb216:51
hggdhah well.16:52
* hggdh goes checking upstream VBox16:52
charlie-tcabut at least I can test in VBox again16:52
vishAmaranth: whoa! unity is possible in VB4?17:02
vishhas anyone tried it?17:02
rumpelVisual Basic?17:04
vishVirtualBox17:04
vishcharlie-tca might have tested it i guess "<charlie-tca> but it works, too."17:05
rumpelah... k17:05
charlie-tcaNo, I didn't test unity17:05
charlie-tcaI haven't been able to VBox to do any installs17:05
vishyea, i was not sure :)17:05
charlie-tcaLet me try it17:06
charlie-tcastarting the live cd in VBox, let's find out17:07
charlie-tcahm, fails here with my Nvidia video card, maybe I got the settings wrong17:12
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charlie-tcavish: how to install guest additions on the live environment that won't start without 3d?17:20
vishhmm, i dont think we can do it for a live cd..17:21
vishcharlie-tca: it needs a reboot once we install the guest additions17:21
charlie-tcaso much for unity in VBox 4 live then17:21
charlie-tcaMaybe it will work for an installed image, but not for the live image?17:22
vishi think we could install a virtual machine and then try to use is..17:22
vishcharlie-tca: yea..17:22
charlie-tcaBut, hey, there are several changes in version 4, I might have to just play with it to get it right, too17:23
mongylogin to the 'fallback' gnome, install additions, logout/login to unity17:29
charlie-tcathat is a nice plan. Boot the desktop cd, pick Try Ubuntu, and do that?17:33
coz_hey guys.. real quick before I reboot... anyone having issues with gnome-panel broken ?17:33
coz_today's updates seem to have broken gnome-panel in classic gnome17:34
Amaranthcoz_: yeah, everyone seems to be getting that17:34
* Amaranth was just about to pull the trigger on an apt-get upgrade before people started talking about it17:35
coz_Amaranth,  oh ok thanks :)17:35
coz_well at least I can reboot  and killall gnome panel :)17:36
charlie-tcaWell, to be sure, Unity does run in virtualbox 4.0 now with guest additions installed!18:11
Picijadd: The bug linked in the topic is likely relevant to your issue.18:42
jaddPici: can i do a downgrade to that one before ?18:43
IdleOnejadd: see the comments in the bug18:44
jaddk thanks18:48
alfaciao19:21
alfaqualcuno?19:21
[lan3y]Hi, i am having problems with gnome on 11.04, the top panel is not showing any notification symbols in the right hand corner (wifi account name ect) how do i fix this panel?19:26
nit-wit[lan3y], are you updated and which servers are you using what country?19:28
[lan3y]i;ve found it now, im another victim of the new GTK+2.0 package19:31
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[lan3y]how do i downgrade it again?19:36
[lan3y]nit-wit, i keep getting errors when  i try and downgrade19:45
nit-wit[lan3y], downgrade what's the meaning of that19:47
[lan3y]the bug for the problem i got says downgrade the package19:47
nit-wit[lan3y], and how does it do that or do you go to synaptic and get the earlier reinstalled19:48
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matrixa1i bet somebody already has noticed this, but the latest updates have nuked most gnome-panel applets21:09
charlie-tcasee the topic21:14
charlie-tcaoops. You are correct, matrixa121:14
charlie-tcaIt has been noticed...21:14
matrixa1ah that explains it21:22
matrixa1didn't read the topic tbh21:23
charlie-tcaI read the topic everytime it changes and I am in the channel. But read it when logging in???21:25
* charlie-tca thinks it is a good idea, though :-)21:26
patdk-wkthere be a topic? :)21:32
charlie-tcaI don't know if there is when I first log in to the channel ;-)21:38
leagrisHope noone will kill compiz enhanced zoom. As a visually impaired, this tool is an unavoidable extraordinary help.22:00
leagrisI left trying to run Kde4 because the same feature is a pain without mouse wheel event ton control zooming.22:01
* leagris missing the resolution agnostic CRTs. Now I can't use an LCD display without extensive dynamic zooming.22:02
charlie-tca+122:05
BUGabundooi22:43
charlie-tcaHello, BUGabundo22:43
BUGabundoON NOES23:19
BUGabundorecent X update is broken23:19
BUGabundocan't copy or paste :S23:19
yofelwelcome to the club23:20
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charlie-tcaHappy Holidays :-)23:20
BUGabundoahahahahaa23:21
BUGabundowhat's the bug id?23:21
yofeldid anyone report that yet? I didn't get to it yet23:23
BUGabundoI'm busy re-flashing my phone, putting mail into zero, and spamming all my contact list with a xtmas message!23:23
BUGabundoyou ?23:23
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