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head_victimnisshh: ping if you want to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam now I have had some help from some website people in making it look correct in both firefox and chrome now.03:34
nisshhhead_victim, having a look now07:26
nisshhhead_victim, looks like thisara got Ubuntu installed and booted from that hard drive :)07:27
chestyanyone know how to turn the ir port off on my macbookpro2,2? I'm afraid it's going to develop super strength and burn a hole in my wall08:40
nisshhchesty, smash it? :)08:41
nisshhget rid of your macbook? :)08:41
chestyit's running ubuntu08:42
chestyi didn't even now it was an ir port until I installed ubuntu and it turned on for the first time08:43
chestyactually, it's my headphone socket, weird08:44
chestythere's a red led inside the socket that's on08:44
nisshhchesty, i dont even know if its possible to turn off the ir port, sorry :|08:45
chestyI'm not even sure if it is a ir port now, I just assumed it was because it was red :P08:45
nisshhoh ok]08:46
thisarahi nisshh11:05
thisaraare u there11:05
nisshhthisara, hey11:08
thisaranisshh : how is going11:09
nisshhthisara, if you type nis<tab key> then it highlights my nick and beeps so i know someone is talking to me :)11:09
nisshhunless webchat cant do that :)11:10
thisaranisshh : ok11:10
nisshhits called tab completion11:10
thisaranisshh: got it11:11
nisshhthere you go :)11:11
nisshhthisara, anyway, what did you need help with?11:11
thisaranisshh: I already installed the Intel fortran compiler11:11
nisshhoh good, so its working?11:11
thisaranisshh: thats the problem11:12
nisshhoh?11:12
nisshhthisara, also, you dont need to highlight me nick, every time :)11:12
nisshhmy* :)11:12
thisaranisshh: Its installed. thats sure. But now I want to installed the licence file. But I cant figure out where the Fortran is installed .11:13
nisshhhmmm11:14
nisshhdo you need the license file?11:14
nisshhactually, what *is* the license file?11:14
nisshhthisara, ^^11:14
thisaranisshh: its already there with me. It comes with the installation11:14
nisshhwhat license is it? some sort of terms & conditions?11:15
thisaranisshh: I want to ask another stupid question. 11:15
nisshhno question is stupid, just ask11:15
nisshh:)11:15
nisshhthisara, ?11:17
thisaranisshh: First answer ur question. Intel compiler for Linux is free. So during download, intel send the licence file to our email. I will send that for you to have a look. which is an authentification for the particular copy of the software.11:17
nisshhi see11:18
nisshhso its free but not open source?11:18
thisaranisshh: mmm..fortran compiler is same like C,  Python11:20
thisaranisshh: We have to write our own coding11:21
thisaranisshh:  but there are fortran open source fortran coding all around world. I am not sure whether you know what I am referring. One of the famous is SWAN11:22
nisshhthisara, yeah, i understand that, but i dont understand what kind of license would require you to install a license just for a compiler11:22
nisshhyeah, i dont know a heap about fortran, i do know there are/was/is a compiler or two you can get for free though11:23
nisshhthisara, you can just email me the license file if you like11:23
thisaranisshh: anyway these are my stupid quesitons in Linux11:24
nisshhthat way i can understand what your trying to do11:24
nisshhthisara, hehe, they arent stupid, just a challenge to answer :)11:24
thisaranisshh: Main problem is I am migrating from Windows to Linux , so I tend to think with a mindset of windows11:24
nisshhi see, yeah, that is a common problem for some11:25
thisaranisshh: I wonder how do we find some file in the computer11:25
nisshhthisara, there are two commands, find and locate :)11:25
thisaranisshh: ex: if I wan to find the installed directory of fortran11:25
thisaranisshh: ok11:26
nisshhthisara, well, how do you compile a fortran program on the command line?11:26
nisshhthisara, if the compiler has an executable this might work: which fortran11:26
nisshhthat works for Python and whatnot, it might work for fortran11:27
thisaranisshh: that infact I am not sure11:27
nisshhthisara, so you coded fortran programs in matlab on windows did you?11:27
* nisshh has no idea what matlab is used for/can do11:28
thisaranisshh: I still cant understand directory structure of Linux. Becase in Windows, we know where the installations are 11:28
nisshhall i know is engineers and stuff use it11:28
nisshhyeah11:28
nisshhthisara, its easy :)11:28
thisaranisshh: Matlab is different. 11:28
nisshhthisara, the key difference is linux does not have anything like drive letters (C drive, D drive, etc)11:29
nisshhall extra hard drives and whatnot are mounted as part of the existing file system11:29
thisaranisshh: Most people use Matlab. It can do programming. also its a good graphical generator. But its not powerful as fortran when it comes to hardcore numerical programming. less efficient11:29
nisshhyeah11:30
nisshhthisara, ill be one minute, i just need to grab dinner from the kitchen :)11:30
thisaranisshh: today I had to install Linux three times11:30
thisaranisshh: I had to find the compatible version for Ifort11:30
thisaranisshh: OK11:30
nisshhoh ok11:33
nisshhthisara, anyway11:33
nisshhthisara, getting back to the original issue, can you email me the license file, so i can see what im dealing with?11:33
thisaranisshh: Ok  I will now11:34
nisshhok11:34
thisaranisshh: its sent11:35
nisshhok11:35
nisshhi should have it in a minute11:36
nisshhthisara, oh i see, whats the number in the file for?11:36
thisaranisshh: sorry. that was serial number. I sent u the correct one again11:37
nisshhoh, you sent me the wrong one?11:37
nisshhthisara, ok, and what do you normally do on windows with that file?11:38
thisaranisshh: In windows, there is a graphical interface for Intel Fortran. which has everything11:39
nisshhoh i see11:39
thisaranisshh: when we start the programme for the first time it will ask to install the license file11:39
nisshhthisara, are you using Ubunt right now?11:39
nisshhoh11:39
nisshhok11:39
thisaranisshh: mmm not now11:39
nisshhthat is really silly :)11:40
thisaranisshh: can reboot in a minute11:40
nisshhthisara, ok, please reboot into Ubuntu, jump back on IRC and then ill get you to run some commands for me :)11:40
thisaranisshh: give me 2 min11:40
thisaranisshh: hi I am back11:43
nisshhok11:43
nisshhthisara, so how did you install the compiler? did you use the link i gave you a few emails back?11:44
thisaranisshh: u mean this link http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/using-intel-compilers-for-linux-with-ubuntu/11:45
nisshhyeah11:46
nisshhdid you use that? or did you do it another way?11:46
thisaranisshh: I use almost same11:46
nisshhthisara, right11:46
thisaranisshh: but only difference was that it gave me warnings of some prerequsits. So install g++11:47
nisshhthisara, can you tell me how you compiled programs on windows with fortran? was there a command? or a button or something?11:47
nisshhah, yeah, thats nothing to worry about then11:47
thisaranisshh: In Windows ll done in graphical interface, there is a butten for COMPILE and another one for RUN11:48
nisshhthisara, this GUI, is it part of matlab?11:48
thisaranisshh: I am not sure whether there is such a graphical interface for Ubuntu 11:48
thisaranisshh: sorry, Matlab is a different software. It has nothing to do with Fortran11:49
thisaranisshh: I think I confused u11:49
nisshhyou did11:49
thisaranisshh: sorry for that11:49
nisshhyou said you used fortran with matlab :)11:49
nisshhor something like that :)11:50
thisaranisshh: fortran and matlab11:50
thisaranisshh: sorry for confusion11:50
nisshhthats fine11:50
thisaranisshh: well get back to the topic. I wonder how to find the installed folder of Fortran. Ex: In windows, we know it is somewehre in Programe flies11:51
nisshhthisara, yeah, im working on it, give me a moment11:51
thisaranisshh: I found anothe document on how to do the installation. this might be useful  http://www.webmo.net/support/ifort11.html11:53
thisaranisshh: but I found this once finish the installation. now I cant reverse the installation. Simply, ..dont know how to uninstall. 11:54
nisshhright11:54
nisshhthisara, ok, ive just been to #fortran11:57
thisaranisshh: good11:57
nisshhand they have no expereince with intel fortran11:57
nisshhthey all use gfortran (gcc for fortran)11:57
nisshhwhich they say should accept the same syntax you use11:58
nisshhthisara, willing to give it a shot?11:58
nisshhor do you need to use matlab?11:58
thisaranisshh: fortran syntax are same regardless of platform11:58
nisshhim still a little confused about how matlab is used with fortran11:58
thisaranisshh: I know gfortran but I dont think it s free11:58
nisshhthisara, im refferring to compiler accepted syntax, but yeah11:59
nisshhyeah, its completely frewe11:59
thisaranisshh: sorry11:59
nisshhfree11:59
thisaranisshh: Run in Windows ?11:59
nisshhwait, what?11:59
thisaranisshh:  do they run gfortran in Linux ? or Windows ?12:00
nisshhthisara, its available for linux as far as i know12:00
thisaranisshh:  I earlier used it . Sometimes it has bugs. 12:00
nisshhyeah12:01
thisaranisshh:  But I have never used in linux12:01
nisshhthisara, can you please join the #fortran channel, they are willing to help you12:01
thisaranisshh:  There are few other. Microsoft Power Station, Compaq 12:01
nisshhyeah12:01
thisaragood12:01
thisaranisshh: thanks for your time12:02
nisshhthisara, no problem, im happy to help, its just that fortran is sort of above my head :)12:02
nisshhthisara, any Ubuntu questions or help you need, come back here :)12:02
thisaranisshh:  Ok Nish. See you again after some time12:03
nisshhthisara, do you know how to join #fortran?12:03
thisaranisshh: what u mean #fortran12:03
thisara?12:03
nisshhthisara, there is a channel on IRC called #fortran, there are people in there willing to help you12:03
nisshhthisara, gimme a sec12:04
thisaranisshh: aha ok got it12:04
nisshhthisara, click this link: irc://irc.freenode.net:8001/#fortran12:04
thisaranisshh: got it12:05
nisshhcool12:05
nisshhthisara, so, are you going to #fortran now, or...12:07
thisaranisshh:  I tried that12:09
nisshhthisara, copy and paste that link into your web browser12:09
thisaranisshh: seems its different application do I need to create a login12:10
thisaranisshh:  Ok I am there12:11
thisaranisshh: thanks12:11
nisshhcool12:12
thisaranisshh:  need to go 12:19
thisaranisshh: catch u another time12:19
thisaranisshh: bye12:19
gggshmm, webchat shows your ip to the world12:30
nisshhgggs, yeah12:32
gggsreading through the IRC rfc the other day I came across the /links cmd, and then realized FreeNode has an Australian server12:34
gggs"roddenberry.freenode.net roddenberry.freenode.net :0 Brisbane, AU"12:34
nisshhwait12:34
nisshhgggs, how did you discover an au freenode server by reading an rfc?12:35
nisshhyou have super mind powers! :)12:35
nisshhnow im just getting offtopic :)12:35
gggsbutterfly effect, I could predict what would happen 17 years in the future by how it was written12:36
nisshhlol12:36
gggsit didn't extend my ability to avoid xmas shopping traffic today, so my super mind powers have restricted privileges12:37
gggsyea anyway I get ~400ms ping to chat.freenode.net (random server) and ~71ms to roddenberry.freenode.net12:39
nisshhoh nice lol12:39
nisshhgggs, i get 104ms ping from roddenberry.freenode.net, but im in WA, so im not as close as you12:40
gggswhat do you get to your current IRC server?12:41
nisshhone sec12:41
gggsI get ~400 to leguin.12:42
nisshhgggs, i get 513ms from leguin.freenode.net, but they are in sweden :)12:42
nisshhgggs, do you have cable or ADSL2+?12:42
gggssveeeden!12:44
gggsadsl2, I'll tell you the speed in a minute12:44
nisshhah ok12:44
gggs...if I can find my router's password12:49
nisshhlol12:50
gggsuh oh12:52
nisshhwhat happened?12:52
gggsI had everything setup quite nicely, with an admin and a normal user account, but uhh, I've no idea where I wrote them down12:53
nisshhgggs, lol, nice :)12:54
nisshhgggs, just go to speedtest.net :)12:54
gggsI'm pretty sure I wrote them down, however I'm even more sure I shred loose paper12:57
nisshhhaha12:57
gggsafter screwing around with the damn thing for a whole afternoon, I've shredded the only evidence of my efforts13:00
* gggs sighs13:00
gggsit's about 8,000kbit/s from memory13:00
sagaciadsl113:01
nisshhgggs, same as me then13:09
gggsI can download at about 600kB/s, I'm just cut at losing the passwords for this damn thing13:10
nisshhgggs, ah ok, i max out at about 859kb/s :)13:11
sagacilooking forward to d/l speeds at lca201113:11
sagaci2.2MB13:12
gggsnisshh: nice, dsl?13:12
nisshhgggs, ADSL2+13:13
nisshhsagaci, oh nice :)13:13
sagacinisshh: sounds like adsl113:14
nisshhsagaci, no, its ADSL2+ dude13:14
nisshhsagaci, ISP says so, my router says so :)13:14
sagaciyeah, but why are you maxing out at just ~860kbps13:15
gggs'just' 860kB/s?13:15
sagacigggs: yeah, just 860kB, i've been there13:16
nisshhsagaci, kilobytes, not kilobits :)13:16
sagaciyeah, we're on the same page13:16
nisshhsagaci, how fast is you net?13:17
sagaci~21000kilobits13:17
nisshhyeah13:17
sagacitranslates into around 2.1-2.2megabytes/sec13:17
sagacithat's adsl2+13:17
sagacinot annex m13:18
nisshhsagaci, i can get that speed here on adsl2+ but its more expensive than 8000mbps :)13:18
sagacikbps* :P13:18
nisshhbut i swear, i AM on adsl2+ dude13:18
gggsyea it's cheaper to wardrive and connect to routers called `dlink'13:18
nisshhsagaci, yeah lol, oops :)13:18
sagaciso you're on turbo or something13:19
sagaciit's about the same price, yeah?13:19
nisshhsagaci, im with telstra on the bigpond liberty turbo 8mbps plan with 50GB's bandwidth13:20
nisshhbut i got a discount13:21
nisshhso 20mbps is far more expensive13:21
sagaciyeah, i'm on the same except elite13:21
sagacibut i'm on wireless 3g right this moment13:21
nisshhsagaci, my plan might be elite too, i cant remember :)13:23
sagacinisshh: have you tried rebooting your router13:24
nisshhsagaci, what? why?13:24
sagaciwell if you're on the elite, you should be able to get 20mbps if your line is right13:26
sagaciwhen I felt 20mbps dowload, 13:27
sagacii was like that dude in the chair listeing to loud music with glasses on13:27
nisshhsagaci, no, there is the 8mbps elite and the 20mbps elite :)13:29
sagacia deprecated plan?13:30
nisshhno13:30
nisshhlet me find the plan list13:30
sagacii got it13:30
sagacii'll imgur it13:30
nisshhok13:31
sagacihttp://i.imgur.com/qBFYB.png13:34
nisshhsagaci, yeah, that plan13:35
nisshhbut my router limits me because it cant do ADSL2+ :)13:35
sagaciso it's just your router13:35
nisshhi installed a patch that supposedly made it ADSL2+ capable13:35
sagaciwhat have you got13:35
nisshhbut it obviously isnt working13:36
gggshah, "Your current plan is BigPond Elite Liberty* (100GB) - ADSL $79.95 monthly", it's not even there anymore13:36
nisshhsagaci, Netgear DG834G13:36
nisshhlol, yeah13:36
sagacinisshh: now it makes sense13:36
nisshhsagaci, yeah, because it says i get ADSL2+ but obviously my router is too old13:36
sagaci100GB is my sweet spot, since you get 256k shaped speed13:36
nisshhyeah13:36
sagaciin saying that 50GB meets my needs13:37
nisshhbut i dont get shaped often, i stop downloading just before i go over13:37
nisshhand i regulate it13:37
gggsI'm 24GB through 100GB, with one day until new bill date; what do you guys go through?13:37
nisshhso i spread the 50GB's out over a month13:37
sagaci1.5GB a day13:37
nisshhgggs, i go through all 50GB's a month13:37
nisshhbut i could easily go through more13:38
sagaciyoutube HD, daily linux isos aren't mirrored, only xubuntu's are13:38
nisshhyeah13:38
nisshhbrb, getting dessert13:39
nisshhback now13:40
gggsaarnet is unmetered13:41
sagacidistros iso that aren't mirrored, 13:41
sagaciaarnet is limited13:41
nisshhgggs, yeah i use it13:41
sagacii abuse it13:42
sagaci8)13:42
gggsnisshh: (ot) I'm grep'ing my entire hdd for my router's passwords, everythings a little slow13:43
gggssagaci: you pull new ISO's daily?13:43
sagacino13:43
gggs200GB, even 100GB is a large amount of data for a home network13:46
nisshhgggs, hehe13:46
sagaciubuntu one13:47
sagacii'd use it if uploads weren't counted13:47
gggsearlier this week I measured how much traffic went through an IRC server similar to this one when idle-- 12.49kB over an hour, depending on how long the server's hostname is13:56
gggsnisshh: grep couldn't find anything, looks like I've have to reset it (eventually)14:16
nisshhgggs, that sucks :(14:16
gggsyea it's one of those Telstra-branded Thomson wifi routers, you can only change a few settings14:17
nisshhah ok14:20
nisshhmy routers control panel is not bad, i can change DHCP address range, LAN settings, wireless settings, dyndns settings, etc14:21
gggsnisshh: wifi?14:21
nisshhgggs, yes14:23
nisshhwireless == wifi14:23
gggsoh right, missed that, it's getting late14:24
nisshhlol14:25
nisshhi am fully awake currently :)14:25
gggsthe only wifi router I've got is the Telstra/Thomson, purely for the N90014:29
gggsnight owl hey14:29

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