[01:07] ummmm [03:34] nisshh: ping if you want to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam now I have had some help from some website people in making it look correct in both firefox and chrome now. [07:26] head_victim, having a look now [07:27] head_victim, looks like thisara got Ubuntu installed and booted from that hard drive :) [08:40] anyone know how to turn the ir port off on my macbookpro2,2? I'm afraid it's going to develop super strength and burn a hole in my wall [08:41] chesty, smash it? :) [08:41] get rid of your macbook? :) [08:42] it's running ubuntu [08:43] i didn't even now it was an ir port until I installed ubuntu and it turned on for the first time [08:44] actually, it's my headphone socket, weird [08:44] there's a red led inside the socket that's on [08:45] chesty, i dont even know if its possible to turn off the ir port, sorry :| [08:45] I'm not even sure if it is a ir port now, I just assumed it was because it was red :P [08:46] oh ok] [11:05] hi nisshh [11:05] are u there [11:08] thisara, hey [11:09] nisshh : how is going [11:09] thisara, if you type nis then it highlights my nick and beeps so i know someone is talking to me :) [11:10] unless webchat cant do that :) [11:10] nisshh : ok [11:10] its called tab completion [11:11] nisshh: got it [11:11] there you go :) [11:11] thisara, anyway, what did you need help with? [11:11] nisshh: I already installed the Intel fortran compiler [11:11] oh good, so its working? [11:12] nisshh: thats the problem [11:12] oh? [11:12] thisara, also, you dont need to highlight me nick, every time :) [11:12] my* :) [11:13] nisshh: Its installed. thats sure. But now I want to installed the licence file. But I cant figure out where the Fortran is installed . [11:14] hmmm [11:14] do you need the license file? [11:14] actually, what *is* the license file? [11:14] thisara, ^^ [11:14] nisshh: its already there with me. It comes with the installation [11:15] what license is it? some sort of terms & conditions? [11:15] nisshh: I want to ask another stupid question. [11:15] no question is stupid, just ask [11:15] :) [11:17] thisara, ? [11:17] nisshh: First answer ur question. Intel compiler for Linux is free. So during download, intel send the licence file to our email. I will send that for you to have a look. which is an authentification for the particular copy of the software. [11:18] i see [11:18] so its free but not open source? [11:20] nisshh: mmm..fortran compiler is same like C, Python [11:21] nisshh: We have to write our own coding [11:22] nisshh: but there are fortran open source fortran coding all around world. I am not sure whether you know what I am referring. One of the famous is SWAN [11:22] thisara, yeah, i understand that, but i dont understand what kind of license would require you to install a license just for a compiler [11:23] yeah, i dont know a heap about fortran, i do know there are/was/is a compiler or two you can get for free though [11:23] thisara, you can just email me the license file if you like [11:24] nisshh: anyway these are my stupid quesitons in Linux [11:24] that way i can understand what your trying to do [11:24] thisara, hehe, they arent stupid, just a challenge to answer :) [11:24] nisshh: Main problem is I am migrating from Windows to Linux , so I tend to think with a mindset of windows [11:25] i see, yeah, that is a common problem for some [11:25] nisshh: I wonder how do we find some file in the computer [11:25] thisara, there are two commands, find and locate :) [11:25] nisshh: ex: if I wan to find the installed directory of fortran [11:26] nisshh: ok [11:26] thisara, well, how do you compile a fortran program on the command line? [11:26] thisara, if the compiler has an executable this might work: which fortran [11:27] that works for Python and whatnot, it might work for fortran [11:27] nisshh: that infact I am not sure [11:27] thisara, so you coded fortran programs in matlab on windows did you? [11:28] * nisshh has no idea what matlab is used for/can do [11:28] nisshh: I still cant understand directory structure of Linux. Becase in Windows, we know where the installations are [11:28] all i know is engineers and stuff use it [11:28] yeah [11:28] thisara, its easy :) [11:28] nisshh: Matlab is different. [11:29] thisara, the key difference is linux does not have anything like drive letters (C drive, D drive, etc) [11:29] all extra hard drives and whatnot are mounted as part of the existing file system [11:29] nisshh: Most people use Matlab. It can do programming. also its a good graphical generator. But its not powerful as fortran when it comes to hardcore numerical programming. less efficient [11:30] yeah [11:30] thisara, ill be one minute, i just need to grab dinner from the kitchen :) [11:30] nisshh: today I had to install Linux three times [11:30] nisshh: I had to find the compatible version for Ifort [11:30] nisshh: OK [11:33] oh ok [11:33] thisara, anyway [11:33] thisara, getting back to the original issue, can you email me the license file, so i can see what im dealing with? [11:34] nisshh: Ok I will now [11:34] ok [11:35] nisshh: its sent [11:35] ok [11:36] i should have it in a minute [11:36] thisara, oh i see, whats the number in the file for? [11:37] nisshh: sorry. that was serial number. I sent u the correct one again [11:37] oh, you sent me the wrong one? [11:38] thisara, ok, and what do you normally do on windows with that file? [11:39] nisshh: In windows, there is a graphical interface for Intel Fortran. which has everything [11:39] oh i see [11:39] nisshh: when we start the programme for the first time it will ask to install the license file [11:39] thisara, are you using Ubunt right now? [11:39] oh [11:39] ok [11:39] nisshh: mmm not now [11:40] that is really silly :) [11:40] nisshh: can reboot in a minute [11:40] thisara, ok, please reboot into Ubuntu, jump back on IRC and then ill get you to run some commands for me :) [11:40] nisshh: give me 2 min [11:43] nisshh: hi I am back [11:43] ok [11:44] thisara, so how did you install the compiler? did you use the link i gave you a few emails back? [11:45] nisshh: u mean this link http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/using-intel-compilers-for-linux-with-ubuntu/ [11:46] yeah [11:46] did you use that? or did you do it another way? [11:46] nisshh: I use almost same [11:46] thisara, right [11:47] nisshh: but only difference was that it gave me warnings of some prerequsits. So install g++ [11:47] thisara, can you tell me how you compiled programs on windows with fortran? was there a command? or a button or something? [11:47] ah, yeah, thats nothing to worry about then [11:48] nisshh: In Windows ll done in graphical interface, there is a butten for COMPILE and another one for RUN [11:48] thisara, this GUI, is it part of matlab? [11:48] nisshh: I am not sure whether there is such a graphical interface for Ubuntu [11:49] nisshh: sorry, Matlab is a different software. It has nothing to do with Fortran [11:49] nisshh: I think I confused u [11:49] you did [11:49] nisshh: sorry for that [11:49] you said you used fortran with matlab :) [11:50] or something like that :) [11:50] nisshh: fortran and matlab [11:50] nisshh: sorry for confusion [11:50] thats fine [11:51] nisshh: well get back to the topic. I wonder how to find the installed folder of Fortran. Ex: In windows, we know it is somewehre in Programe flies [11:51] thisara, yeah, im working on it, give me a moment [11:53] nisshh: I found anothe document on how to do the installation. this might be useful http://www.webmo.net/support/ifort11.html [11:54] nisshh: but I found this once finish the installation. now I cant reverse the installation. Simply, ..dont know how to uninstall. [11:54] right [11:57] thisara, ok, ive just been to #fortran [11:57] nisshh: good [11:57] and they have no expereince with intel fortran [11:57] they all use gfortran (gcc for fortran) [11:58] which they say should accept the same syntax you use [11:58] thisara, willing to give it a shot? [11:58] or do you need to use matlab? [11:58] nisshh: fortran syntax are same regardless of platform [11:58] im still a little confused about how matlab is used with fortran [11:58] nisshh: I know gfortran but I dont think it s free [11:59] thisara, im refferring to compiler accepted syntax, but yeah [11:59] yeah, its completely frewe [11:59] nisshh: sorry [11:59] free [11:59] nisshh: Run in Windows ? [11:59] wait, what? [12:00] nisshh: do they run gfortran in Linux ? or Windows ? [12:00] thisara, its available for linux as far as i know [12:00] nisshh: I earlier used it . Sometimes it has bugs. [12:01] yeah [12:01] nisshh: But I have never used in linux [12:01] thisara, can you please join the #fortran channel, they are willing to help you [12:01] nisshh: There are few other. Microsoft Power Station, Compaq [12:01] yeah [12:01] good [12:02] nisshh: thanks for your time [12:02] thisara, no problem, im happy to help, its just that fortran is sort of above my head :) [12:02] thisara, any Ubuntu questions or help you need, come back here :) [12:03] nisshh: Ok Nish. See you again after some time [12:03] thisara, do you know how to join #fortran? [12:03] nisshh: what u mean #fortran [12:03] ? [12:03] thisara, there is a channel on IRC called #fortran, there are people in there willing to help you [12:04] thisara, gimme a sec [12:04] nisshh: aha ok got it [12:04] thisara, click this link: irc://irc.freenode.net:8001/#fortran [12:05] nisshh: got it [12:05] cool [12:07] thisara, so, are you going to #fortran now, or... [12:09] nisshh: I tried that [12:09] thisara, copy and paste that link into your web browser [12:10] nisshh: seems its different application do I need to create a login [12:11] nisshh: Ok I am there [12:11] nisshh: thanks [12:12] cool [12:19] nisshh: need to go [12:19] nisshh: catch u another time [12:19] nisshh: bye [12:30] hmm, webchat shows your ip to the world [12:32] gggs, yeah [12:34] reading through the IRC rfc the other day I came across the /links cmd, and then realized FreeNode has an Australian server [12:34] "roddenberry.freenode.net roddenberry.freenode.net :0 Brisbane, AU" [12:34] wait [12:35] gggs, how did you discover an au freenode server by reading an rfc? [12:35] you have super mind powers! :) [12:35] now im just getting offtopic :) [12:36] butterfly effect, I could predict what would happen 17 years in the future by how it was written [12:36] lol [12:37] it didn't extend my ability to avoid xmas shopping traffic today, so my super mind powers have restricted privileges [12:39] yea anyway I get ~400ms ping to chat.freenode.net (random server) and ~71ms to roddenberry.freenode.net [12:39] oh nice lol [12:40] gggs, i get 104ms ping from roddenberry.freenode.net, but im in WA, so im not as close as you [12:41] what do you get to your current IRC server? [12:41] one sec [12:42] I get ~400 to leguin. [12:42] gggs, i get 513ms from leguin.freenode.net, but they are in sweden :) [12:42] gggs, do you have cable or ADSL2+? [12:44] sveeeden! [12:44] adsl2, I'll tell you the speed in a minute [12:44] ah ok [12:49] ...if I can find my router's password [12:50] lol [12:52] uh oh [12:52] what happened? [12:53] I had everything setup quite nicely, with an admin and a normal user account, but uhh, I've no idea where I wrote them down [12:54] gggs, lol, nice :) [12:54] gggs, just go to speedtest.net :) [12:57] I'm pretty sure I wrote them down, however I'm even more sure I shred loose paper [12:57] haha [13:00] after screwing around with the damn thing for a whole afternoon, I've shredded the only evidence of my efforts [13:00] * gggs sighs [13:00] it's about 8,000kbit/s from memory [13:01] adsl1 [13:09] gggs, same as me then [13:10] I can download at about 600kB/s, I'm just cut at losing the passwords for this damn thing [13:11] gggs, ah ok, i max out at about 859kb/s :) [13:11] looking forward to d/l speeds at lca2011 [13:12] 2.2MB [13:12] nisshh: nice, dsl? [13:13] gggs, ADSL2+ [13:13] sagaci, oh nice :) [13:14] nisshh: sounds like adsl1 [13:14] sagaci, no, its ADSL2+ dude [13:14] sagaci, ISP says so, my router says so :) [13:15] yeah, but why are you maxing out at just ~860kbps [13:15] 'just' 860kB/s? [13:16] gggs: yeah, just 860kB, i've been there [13:16] sagaci, kilobytes, not kilobits :) [13:16] yeah, we're on the same page [13:17] sagaci, how fast is you net? [13:17] ~21000kilobits [13:17] yeah [13:17] translates into around 2.1-2.2megabytes/sec [13:17] that's adsl2+ [13:18] not annex m [13:18] sagaci, i can get that speed here on adsl2+ but its more expensive than 8000mbps :) [13:18] kbps* :P [13:18] but i swear, i AM on adsl2+ dude [13:18] yea it's cheaper to wardrive and connect to routers called `dlink' [13:18] sagaci, yeah lol, oops :) [13:19] so you're on turbo or something [13:19] it's about the same price, yeah? [13:20] sagaci, im with telstra on the bigpond liberty turbo 8mbps plan with 50GB's bandwidth [13:21] but i got a discount [13:21] so 20mbps is far more expensive [13:21] yeah, i'm on the same except elite [13:21] but i'm on wireless 3g right this moment [13:23] sagaci, my plan might be elite too, i cant remember :) [13:24] nisshh: have you tried rebooting your router [13:24] sagaci, what? why? [13:26] well if you're on the elite, you should be able to get 20mbps if your line is right [13:27] when I felt 20mbps dowload, [13:27] i was like that dude in the chair listeing to loud music with glasses on [13:29] sagaci, no, there is the 8mbps elite and the 20mbps elite :) [13:30] a deprecated plan? [13:30] no [13:30] let me find the plan list [13:30] i got it [13:30] i'll imgur it [13:31] ok [13:34] http://i.imgur.com/qBFYB.png [13:35] sagaci, yeah, that plan [13:35] but my router limits me because it cant do ADSL2+ :) [13:35] so it's just your router [13:35] i installed a patch that supposedly made it ADSL2+ capable [13:35] what have you got [13:36] but it obviously isnt working [13:36] hah, "Your current plan is BigPond Elite Liberty* (100GB) - ADSL $79.95 monthly", it's not even there anymore [13:36] sagaci, Netgear DG834G [13:36] lol, yeah [13:36] nisshh: now it makes sense [13:36] sagaci, yeah, because it says i get ADSL2+ but obviously my router is too old [13:36] 100GB is my sweet spot, since you get 256k shaped speed [13:36] yeah [13:37] in saying that 50GB meets my needs [13:37] but i dont get shaped often, i stop downloading just before i go over [13:37] and i regulate it [13:37] I'm 24GB through 100GB, with one day until new bill date; what do you guys go through? [13:37] so i spread the 50GB's out over a month [13:37] 1.5GB a day [13:37] gggs, i go through all 50GB's a month [13:38] but i could easily go through more [13:38] youtube HD, daily linux isos aren't mirrored, only xubuntu's are [13:38] yeah [13:39] brb, getting dessert [13:40] back now [13:41] aarnet is unmetered [13:41] distros iso that aren't mirrored, [13:41] aarnet is limited [13:41] gggs, yeah i use it [13:42] i abuse it [13:42] 8) [13:43] nisshh: (ot) I'm grep'ing my entire hdd for my router's passwords, everythings a little slow [13:43] sagaci: you pull new ISO's daily? [13:43] no [13:46] 200GB, even 100GB is a large amount of data for a home network [13:46] gggs, hehe [13:47] ubuntu one [13:47] i'd use it if uploads weren't counted [13:56] earlier this week I measured how much traffic went through an IRC server similar to this one when idle-- 12.49kB over an hour, depending on how long the server's hostname is [14:16] nisshh: grep couldn't find anything, looks like I've have to reset it (eventually) [14:16] gggs, that sucks :( [14:17] yea it's one of those Telstra-branded Thomson wifi routers, you can only change a few settings [14:20] ah ok [14:21] my routers control panel is not bad, i can change DHCP address range, LAN settings, wireless settings, dyndns settings, etc [14:21] nisshh: wifi? [14:23] gggs, yes [14:23] wireless == wifi [14:24] oh right, missed that, it's getting late [14:25] lol [14:25] i am fully awake currently :) [14:29] the only wifi router I've got is the Telstra/Thomson, purely for the N900 [14:29] night owl hey