[00:18] Every time I plug it in or boot up with it plugged in, my Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 USB headset freezes my Toshiba Satellite laptop running Ubuntu Lucid 10.04.1 LTS (amd64). The problem seems related to this bug (#618155) detailed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/618155 , except that uninstalling linux-backports-modules-alsa (as advised here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/10/05/%23ubuntu-beginners.h [00:18] tml ) doesn't solve the problem. I had actually 'preinstalled' the ALSA backports modules on my installation medium to solve the headphone jack sense problem in Ubuntu, but found that installing the Linuxant ALSA drivers for my Conexant chipset (here: http://www.linuxant.com/alsa-driver/ ) was a better fix. The headphone jack sense problem for normal headphones is solved, but my USB headset still freezes my system. Thanks, and [00:18] Launchpad bug 618155 in linux (Ubuntu) "kernel 2.6.32-24 usb audio device causes cpu lockup (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] [00:18] I appreciate any help I can get. [00:20] can anyone help me install xen [00:25] reaper_, you there === szczur is now known as zombie_szczur [00:30] yeah [00:30] getting food [00:38] was' [00:44] nit-wit, you there [00:51] I am so lost [01:15] Hello everyone,I'm a complete Ubuntu noob and I'm trying to get a video card driver for it. I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 with an ATI x1400 video card.If anyone can help,that'd be awesome :D [01:16] what have you tried so far [01:17] I've haven't actually tried anything yet,just reading about it [01:17] and not having any luck.Like I said,I'm a complete noob =/ [01:18] !ati [01:18] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:18] MrRyanThai: have a look at the "Basic Installation Instructions" on that website link [01:19] ONly go on to the more detailed instructions if the other way doesn't work at all [01:19] alright,thank you :) [01:19] appreciate it [01:20] hello! I am trying to install a ra3370 wireless network adapter on ubuntu 10.10. i am partway thru the install and now im stuck. can anyone help? [01:20] reaper_: I'd have no experience with xen but this might help [01:20] !xen [01:20] XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen [01:20] ok thanks I think its working this time [01:21] Sensenetheru: what instructions are you following and where are you getting stuck? [01:21] That the one Im going by now [01:21] reaper_: hope it works out :) [01:22] thanks head_victim me too [01:24] @head_victim i started with the files on the cd, run tar -xvf the.tar.gz file, cd 2010_0223_RT3370_LinuxSTA_V2.3.0.0 , ran 'sudo make' and now idk what to do [01:24] Sensenetheru: ah ok so were building your own, I thought there should be some available for it [01:24] valkyrie was helping me on the #ubuntu channel, but they left in the middle [01:25] i would have thought so to, but there wasnt any other options apparently [01:26] Sensenetheru: I'd have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo [01:26] I'm not an expert in the area but that might have some points [01:26] pointers* [01:28] ok, ill give it a go, ty [01:29] reaper_, I looked at the xen website I wouldn't really be able to help. I thought zen the OS when I responded originally [01:35] yeah I just there too but its still making so have to wait and see [01:36] but I have gotin to a point that I couldnt get to earlier [01:38] in terminal says remote: counting objects: and it moving up, at 130,000+ === Cheri703_ is now known as Cheri703 [04:57] guys, anyone here? [04:57] sogepp, yeah what about it.:) [04:58] I was going to be, but I'm a little late from the train [04:58] hi nit-wit, [04:58] hope I dont have to stand long at the train station :D [04:58] sogepp, howdy [04:58] lust lurking [04:58] *just [04:58] i have a plan for my notebook, i'll allocate 50gb of my hd for linux with 2 distro [04:59] i planing install slack and ubuntu [04:59] sogepp, did we work on the netbook before? [05:00] nope, notebook, i planing re-installing my notebook [05:00] sogepp, slack is lilo I think [05:00] yep, but can't I use grub when i use ubuntu, so grub will recognize all OS on my HD [05:01] sogepp, not sure about lilo I haven't used it enough, I saw somebody who had gotten grub2 installed in slack though [05:02] i want make 1 /home directories for both distro, can't i implant that? and can u suggest how Gb should i allocate for each /root and /home? [05:03] he he [05:03] sogepp, I don't do separate homes so I'm not the best for that. I have all my stuff on a external. [05:04] hwhwhw [05:04] I see, [05:04] sogepp: for a seperate /boot use 200mb [05:04] I sound like a beginner now [05:04] sogepp: for a seperate root go with anywhere from 12-15GB [05:04] sogepp: give the rest to home [05:05] owh, why do i need separate /boot? [05:05] sogepp: wait you want to share 1 /home for two distros on dual boot? [05:05] yes [05:05] can i do that? [05:06] yes it is possible but i dont do it so i dont offer support on it (though its nothing i suggest to beginner users) [05:07] sogepp, it is possible, but not even close to be safe to do so. configuration files may be different, but names may crash. that will give you a lot of trouble [05:07] i see [05:08] so, if i have 50gb of hd left, and want make it 2 distro, can u suggest how do i separate it ? [05:08] FYI, i have win7 installed on my notebook [05:09] :) [05:09] sogepp, you can do <2 partitions (if you want to have separate mount points for some system folders) and create symbolic links from one home folder to another [05:09] sogepp: you are wanting to triple boot? [05:09] yes, triple boot [05:09] sogepp, that way you only store the files you want only once, and you can access it from both os [05:10] sebikul : symbolic links? can you explain it ? [05:10] is it wrong stlsaint? [05:11] sogepp: how many partitions do you currently have on the drive? [05:12] sebikul: symbolic links for cross folders when only one is booted at a time? [05:12] sogepp, it is possible, you just have to mount the partition [05:12] hrm, i may be wrong but i doubt symbolic links work with cross folders in that manner [05:13] 3, for win partition, and 3 (allocated) for linux :) [05:13] sogepp: i suggest you make a "data" partition that holds your music, movies, pics, files etc etc then use fstab to mount that partition in both installs [05:13] sogepp: it is impossible to have 6 partitions unless you are talking logical [05:14] yep, ia have 2 primary and the rest is logical [05:14] sogepp, what stlsaint said is the safest thing you can do [05:14] and simplest [05:15] so, i should make data partition on windows format, i guest [05:16] sogepp: how much space do you have to work with? [05:16] 300gb [05:16] how much is used by windows? [05:17] well, about 250 i guess [05:17] 50 for the system [05:18] sogepp: what two linux distros are you wanting to add? [05:18] ubuntu, and slackware [05:18] i think slack is for more advanced users [05:19] just my 2 cents [05:19] bioterror: YO [05:19] carry on [05:19] hi stl [05:20] well, i have no problem installing slackware :) [05:20] on vbox :p [05:20] sogepp: alright well really i would not suggest a dual boot with seperate partitions with only the use of 50gb [05:20] ofcourse youre not [05:20] lol [05:20] can you explain, why? [05:21] stl, he could use the same swap partition [05:21] bioterror: of course, that is not my concern [05:22] sogepp: as long as you dont go wanting seperate /home partitions for both distros you will be fine with making the seperate /data partition and just mounting in fstab [05:22] ohoohoh, ok, roger that [05:22] but my vision is that if someone cant figure out partitions for distros, i cant suggest to use slack [05:23] hmm, i see [05:23] well, just pray for me bioterror :) [05:24] sogepp: Godspeed myfriend, and backup :D [05:24] well, i wish you a nice time with neverending distrohopping [05:24] sogepp: on a different note i do agree with bioterror in saying that slackware is not really meant for new users [05:24] muahahahah, hope so [05:25] a nice way to get used to slackware is to try something like salix os [05:25] yep, i knew that [05:25] theyre helpful guys [05:25] salix? [05:25] salix is a variant of slack [05:26] developers are ex-zenos devs [05:26] or zen linux [05:26] zenwalk [05:26] that was it [05:27] can't acces the webpages salixos.org , right? [05:27] should be [05:27] works for me [05:28] just wait for the redirect [05:28] stl, they even have a lxde version too [05:28] geez, have to be patient with edge connection :) [05:28] but the package collectionis small [05:29] bioterror: the fluxbox version caught my eye ;) [05:29] stl, that wallpaper is pure eyecandy [05:29] can't access it, [05:30] im enjoying 3G and hdspa in train [05:30] nice [05:31] bioterror: pffttt....get with the times!! 4G is out :P [05:31] but, seems there's no people who use salix near my place :) [05:31] 4G? [05:32] can u gimme the article? link? [05:32] youve never heard of 4G speeds? [05:32] nope [05:32] oh dear smh [05:32] hwhwh, sorry [05:32] its just connection speeds/coverage of phones [05:33] i knew bout that, it just how fast it is? [05:33] woops [05:33] hoo [05:33] that site worked for me [05:34] geez, what's wrong with my connection [05:35] sogepp: is there a specific reason you want slack? [05:36] just trying something new,,, [05:36] even i am loosing my mind with arch [05:36] :D [05:36] i don't think there are much difference on it [05:36] :p [05:36] bioterror: arch is one of those things that you really really want to get with but its just entirely too much work for me [05:37] yeah [05:37] arch is much more hard than slack, isn't it? [05:37] ive got problems with mounting usb drives on boot [05:37] sogepp: YES [05:37] how about gentoo [05:37] :0 [05:37] bioterror: i HAD problems, until gparted made them all go away! lol [05:38] haha [05:38] bioterror, you know the per-session boot trick eh [05:38] hmm [05:39] gotta read moar! [05:39] moar? [05:39] bioterror, I like Dostoevsky [05:39] sogepp: its the lingo of the hip people ;) [05:40] sogepp: you have tried gentoo? [05:40] not yet [05:40] wew, i just saw some one who use it [05:40] yea alot of people like gentoo [05:41] damn, he told me that takes 2 weeks just for installing an application [05:41] again i just am way to busy to actually sit down and dedicate the time needed for it [05:41] *2 weeks or so :p [05:41] no it doesnnt [05:41] what is hip people? [05:41] ive used freebsd alot [05:41] we are ;) [05:42] and why did you call your self 'hip' , any reason? [05:42] and compiling with decent hw isnt much slower than installing a binary package [05:42] sogepp: nvrm [05:42] nvrm? [05:42] its hip to be square [05:43] sogepp: nvrm == nevermind [05:43] hwhwhwh [05:43] hip , huh? [05:43] stl is ahipster [05:43] yep yep [05:43] ok, i got it, i guess [05:44] macbooks, fixies, tattoos, underground music and everykind of newage filthh he has [05:44] bioterror: how do i add more desktops [05:44] stl, where? [05:44] what [05:44] lubuntu [05:44] ahhh [05:44] preferences had it [05:44] sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ? [05:45] check from menu [05:45] firewall_03: not the desktop environment [05:45] cant remember tbqh the exact place [05:45] aye, kk [05:45] stlsaint: Im a n00b [05:45] firewall_03: :D [05:45] ive slept like 3h :D [05:45] firewall_03: nice try though ;) [05:45] A for effort [05:46] stl, u now us lubunteers [05:46] we sleep way too less [05:46] yep [05:46] what's that :p [05:46] hahaha this train is stuck [05:46] we are waiting something [05:47] bioterror: hey its under the openbox configuration menu [05:47] yeah [05:47] awesome [05:47] that has been bugging me [05:47] gotta memorize that [05:47] guys, my xubuntu often hang or restart by it self.. but fine when i use windows [05:47] argh cut me self off damn parrot [05:48] stl, have u tweaked that lubuntu-rc.xml? [05:48] it can be added from there [05:48] bioterror: dude this is just pissing me off [05:48] actually, it always hard when using linux on my old pc [05:48] stl, what is this time? [05:49] while typing my right hand will just brush my touchpad and will somehow close my terminal [05:49] thus closing irc [05:49] use screen? [05:49] bioterror: no [05:49] oh yeah [05:49] irssi [05:49] screen irssi [05:50] screen is awesome [05:50] dont u know? [05:50] bioterror: pfftt who you telling [05:50] what is irssi? [05:50] irssi is a finnish irc client [05:50] :D [05:50] i still remember my terminator days with multiple ssh windows lol [05:51] stlsaint: i don't know if this would help in your situation, but sometimes i've found "Touchfreeze" can help stop some symptoms. [05:52] nUboon2Age: what is touchfreeze? [05:53] http://code.google.com/p/touchfreeze/ stlsaint [05:53] sogepp: [05:53] yes? [05:53] is that a wubi install? [05:53] sogepp: ^^^ [05:53] nope, dual boot with win [05:54] nUboon2Age: TouchFreeze is simple utility for Windows NT/2000/XP [05:54] stlsaint: no its for Linux too [05:55] the downloader is a msi... [05:55] right... [05:55] it said for windows, "Like syndaemon on x-windows." [05:56] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/touchfreeze-tray-icon-that-disables-your-touchpad-while-typing.html#more-2921 stlsaint [05:56] aye, a different linky ;) [05:56] sogepp: are you talking about your prob (or stlsaint's)? [05:58] about stlsaint, :p [05:58] nUboon2Age: nope, not available package :( [05:59] well im tucking it in folks [05:59] ttyt [05:59] l8er folks [06:02] he went so quick i didn't get a chance to ask him if he's running Lucid or Maverick. It doesn't seem to be avail for Maverick (yet) [06:03] sogepp: so back to your thing. when does it do this hang/restart thingy [06:06] well, if i left my pc long enough, than it come :) [06:08] i have the prob since i use ubuntu, i thought that my pc too old for ubuntu, [06:09] and i still has the problem with xubuntu, i wonder if there something wrong with the ram, but it working fine with wind xp [06:30] have you tried Lubuntu sogepp? [06:31] not yet, is it lighter than xubuntu? [06:31] nUboon2Age [06:32] yes its lighter than xubuntu. xubuntu originally was supposed to be light, but its not light anymore. sogepp [06:32] really, why's that? [06:33] it just developed into something that is not that light. being light is not really the focus of the development for xubuntu it turns out. :/ [06:34] owch [06:34] i've seen some benchmarks. its not much different from Ubuntu [06:35] actually, i have download lubuntu iso, but seems it failed, the md5 has different code, [06:35] geez, but they said lubuntu isn't part of canonical project, isn't [06:35] btw, there's both an #lubuntu and a #xubuntu irc support channels. [06:35] its not officially yet but will be soon sogepp [06:35] lubuntu is solid [06:36] really? [06:36] really [06:36] phillw is a big fan if i recall correctly sogepp [06:36] so canonical will add it into their list [06:36] yes [06:36] phillw ? [06:37] i see that name here , [06:37] it was supposed to be added already, but its been delayed. it will be soon i think. [06:37] yes. he's really very helpful. [06:38] i started on Linux with Xubuntu (Jaunty and Karmic) before switching to Ubuntu for 10.04 Lucid [06:39] i wish i'd found out about Lubuntu. those versions of Xubuntu weren't very good. [06:39] so who does developing the lubuntu now [06:39] its an international volunteer team. [06:40] i heard several podcasts about it. very impressive effort. [06:40] how bout the packages, ? [06:41] i'm not clear on what your question is sogepp [06:41] rrr, wait, i'm thinking on it :) [06:42] can we use the same repositories as ubuntu, or they had their own [06:42] i get the impression that someone wanted Xubuntu to be light, but the actual developers don't focus that much on being light, but just on XFCE [06:43] well, because it's little hard to find fast connection here, so i depends on local repositories address, do you get what i'm talking :p [06:44] one thing you can do sogepp is to simply use Synaptic to load "lubuntu-desktop". [06:44] so, i can install it from ubuntu ? or xubuntu? [06:45] that will show you what the desktop looks like. then you can choose whether you want the Lubuntu or Xubuntu (or whatever *buntu you want) when you log on [06:46] yes, you can install it from *buntu [06:46] ok, i get it [06:47] i'm looking at wiki.ubuntu.com/lubuntu [06:47] seems it already part of canonical project right now [06:47] good! [06:48] worth to try [06:48] but, ubuntu really getting hard for old pc right now [06:49] yeah, i was running Xubuntu on 238M of RAM. it was okay, not great. [06:50] what ? but i have 1gb of ram, but it's way too slow for me [06:51] sogepp, nuboon2age, processor speed could change a lot of things [06:51] if xubuntu is slow with 1Gb ram I would suggest you've other issues === plustwo is now known as deegee [06:51] CensoredBiscuit: good point [06:52] how i know my problem? [06:52] how i check it? [06:52] take a look at your machines specs first [06:52] do you prehaps have ze box? [06:52] it's pentium 4 with 1gb of RAm, 160gb of HDD [06:53] ze box, what? [06:53] :) [06:53] ze box your machine came in xD [06:53] rrrr, i'm afraid not [06:54] but you seem to know the specs [06:54] either way its 1 am and I work tommorrow [06:54] yes, i have it for few years :p [06:54] owh, isee [06:54] it's 1 pm here :p [06:55] sogepp: the distro called 'puppy' is also good for old machines [06:55] yep, i already has it on my usb drive, but i don't think it suitable for my sister, [06:56] also Peppermint sogepp [06:56] FYI, my sister use the pc right now [06:56] jollicloud possibly too sogepp [06:56] jollicloud? you sure? [06:57] so both of them based on cloud, right? [06:58] hi [06:58] at the office now :D [06:59] sogepp: there are other xfce variants out there - not just xubuntu - I suspect they would be fine as would a lxde variant [07:13] ok, i'll see if i can try those choice later, for now i thing i'll prefer lubuntu [07:13] oh, good choise :D [07:14] bioterror: you surprise me ;) [07:14] hobgoblin, how? [07:17] hey, what's the different betwen #ubuntu and #ubuntu-beginners [07:18] we have more knowledge, ofkooz ;D [07:18] wew, sure bout that? :) [07:18] sogepp: you'll get help in both - but it is less frenetic in here [07:19] on the other hand at times you'll get no takers in here as it is a lot smaller [07:19] sogepp, well, for example: you dont see me at the #ubuntu :D [07:19] guess so, and 'lighter' [07:20] bioterror: because you're never there. :D [07:20] haha [07:20] :D what makes that important bioterror? LOL [07:25] so quite, suddenly [07:25] *brrrr [07:31] oh yeah [07:31] sogepp, this channel is mainly for support, we have #ubuntu-beginners-team for offtopic chats ;) [07:32] and here for when it is quiet ... [07:32] not many left who remember this as being the team channel :( [07:35] so basically this channel just for off-topic topic? [07:37] sogepp: please read this channel's topic, it's a support channel, #ubuntu-beginners-team is for offtopic/the team's discussion room. [07:38] oops, kay [07:40] as I said sogepp - when there's not any support going on people will talk offtopic ;) [07:40] ok, i have another question, [07:41] then ask it ... [07:41] what would you do if, possibly, the newest kernel didn't recognize your hardware [07:42] yet [07:42] ;) [07:44] boot with the older one [07:45] i mean, there are no support for your hardware yet, [07:45] if the newest didn't work, then does the older one right? [07:46] oic [07:46] well [07:47] not necessarily so - then I'd scratch my head and be pleased that finally after all these years I've not built a frankenstein machine from odds and sods [07:47] come on~ [07:49] no idea sogepp - not something I've ever needed to worry about [07:49] well [07:49] yeah, it's rare to happen nowdays [07:49] ditch that computer and get another one === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [07:49] well, bioterror [07:50] do you have that kind of situation? [07:50] how if that computer is the newest version and something you really want [07:50] not really, [07:50] sogepp, then use that Windows 7 [07:50] just in case, [07:50] maybe someday i'll find the problem [07:51] I've dealt only with hardware support problems, like KMS stuff and so on [07:51] even win7 has the limit [07:51] like "oh, my laptop doesnt return from suspend anymore, thanks alot" [07:51] and stuff like that [07:51] I happend to use alot 2nd hand computer [07:51] I rarely buy a new one [07:51]