| ikonia | bed time | 00:35 |
|---|---|---|
| IdleOne | keep an eye on the nick one, they were using onetoneturd I banned the nick after asking them to change it and they joined a second client instead. | 04:13 |
| ubottu | IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () | 05:11 |
| mneptok | IdleOne: ? | 05:20 |
| IdleOne | lovely PM I got. | 05:58 |
| IdleOne | check 36070 comments | 05:59 |
| rww | O_O | 06:00 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: you got 36070 comments? wow, that's pretty spammy! | 06:05 |
| IdleOne | You are not figuring that some of those are onions | 06:06 |
| Myrtti | oh lordy | 07:50 |
| Myrtti | is this begging for laptops an upcoming trend now? | 07:50 |
| IdleOne | who else? | 07:52 |
| Myrtti | at #ubuntu | 07:52 |
| Myrtti | Guest39371 | 07:52 |
| Myrtti | [09:58] ~~~mode/#irssi [-b *!~dhruvasag@*] by Dirm | 07:59 |
| Myrtti | [09:58] ~~~dhruvasagar [~dhruvasag@65.98.79.137] has joined #irssi | 07:59 |
| Myrtti | [09:58] ~~~mode/#irssi [+v dhruvasagar] by ChanServ | 07:59 |
| Myrtti | [09:58] <+dhruvasagar> Dirm: thanks a lot | 07:59 |
| Myrtti | [09:58] * dhruvasagar Apologizes to everyone for the annoying frequent nick changes last night | 07:59 |
| Myrtti | was about to say something about using profanity as a sign of intellectual poverty, but then remembered how much I swear IRL | 08:01 |
| Myrtti | "oh well" | 08:01 |
| Myrtti | could someone please check he's not banned on #ubuntu anymore, my eyes are playing a trick on me and I can't see it on the banlist, but I'm not sure either | 08:04 |
| Myrtti | IdleOne: thanks | 08:10 |
| IdleOne | sure thing, I didn't see anything else matching | 08:10 |
| Jordan_U | People's nicks are a touchy subject, and I don't know where to draw the line. "RORgasm" probably wasn't going to do any harm, and I'm not being a great catalyst by *causing* conflict :( | 09:21 |
| ikonia | true | 09:29 |
| ikonia | Jordan_U: I guess unless it's an obvious offense, it's "ok" | 09:29 |
| Tm_T | asking nicely in PM usually doesn't harm though | 09:34 |
| ikonia | I'd like to +m ubuntu and you can only help once you've taken a test to show you can work an issue through logically rather than just throwing random ideas out | 09:35 |
| cdbs | !remastersys is <alias> remaster | 10:15 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that, cdbs | 10:15 |
| bazhang | !find remastersys | 11:50 |
| ubottu | Package/file remastersys does not exist in maverick | 11:50 |
| bazhang | !remastersys | 11:50 |
| ubottu | Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility | 11:50 |
| bazhang | afaik remastersys is a third party app; should it be included in a factoid ? | 11:51 |
| popey | people ask about it a lot | 11:51 |
| bazhang | yep, but there's no link to it in the factoid itself | 11:51 |
| popey | all those misguided people who want to "LOL! I'm gonna make my own distro based on Ubunto!" | 11:51 |
| bazhang | hehe | 11:51 |
| bazhang | may as well start linking to OMG!UBUNTU and WEbupd8!! | 11:52 |
| ikonia | I don't think it should be there | 12:08 |
| ikonia | or it should be a detailed factoid saying it's nothing to do with ubuntu | 12:09 |
| ikonia | !forget remastersys | 12:09 |
| ubottu | I'll forget that, ikonia | 12:09 |
| bazhang | agreed | 12:11 |
| jussi | I disagree - we have help.u.c link there, just because remastersys is an alias, doesnt mean it shouldnt be there at all | 12:22 |
| jussi | !remaster | 12:24 |
| ubottu | Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility | 12:24 |
| jussi | that, as a factoid makes good sense to me. | 12:24 |
| jussi | especially with uck in the repos. | 12:29 |
| jrib | Is there something wrong with remastersys though? I don't see the harm in listing it at the end of that factoid | 12:41 |
| cdbs | Would be good to add to the #ubuntu+1 topic: GTK 2.23.3 is broken, please don't upgrade until its fixed | 13:19 |
| cdbs | this issue is causing major issues, such as no GDM for login | 13:19 |
| cdbs | and I just learnt that the hard way. had to downgrade to have this system working again | 13:19 |
| cdbs | issue confirmed by people on #ubuntu-desktop | 13:20 |
| jrib | cdbs: you happen to know a bug number? | 13:20 |
| cdbs | jrib: searching for it | 13:21 |
| cdbs | the thing is, the issue is VERY recent | 13:21 |
| cdbs | I thing began around 1-2 hours ago | 13:21 |
| cdbs | so there's no official announcement, nor anyone has filed a bug (yet) | 13:21 |
| jrib | cdbs: is the package libgtk2.0-0 in natty or something else? | 13:23 |
| jrib | cdbs: I updated the topic, if you find a bug number let one of us know :) | 13:26 |
| cdbs | Thanks jrib | 13:27 |
| cdbs | jrib: okay, I got to go. sorry for that. its that 2 of us are facing that issue | 13:27 |
| cdbs | err, 3 | 13:27 |
| cdbs | on #ubuntu-desktop | 13:27 |
| charlie-tca | jrib: is this what cdbs wanted? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/693737 | 14:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 693737 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "gtk+2.0 update 2.23.3-1ubuntu2 update triggers repeated gdm greeter crashes" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:07 |
| Myrtti | oh lord, here we go again | 14:12 |
| popey | :) | 14:12 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (iwantcookie appears to be abusive - 4) | 14:23 |
| Myrtti | I kinda saw that coming | 14:23 |
| Myrtti | this one too, probably | 14:27 |
| Myrtti | told ya | 14:35 |
| jrib | charlie-tca: probably, yeah | 14:43 |
| * popey notes Fredy in pm asking for my sex, age, email address, location, yahoo messenger id.. | 15:08 | |
| nhandler | Keep in mind that he isn't identified. But thanks for the heads up | 15:10 |
| Myrtti | popey: which channels is he with you, only #ubuntu? | 15:13 |
| popey | yes | 15:14 |
| Myrtti | wow | 15:14 |
| jpds | popey: Refer him to the DPA? | 15:16 |
| Myrtti | is he really thinking of installing Ubuntu 5.x? | 16:01 |
| Myrtti | seriously? | 16:01 |
| * popey shrugs | 16:01 | |
| popey | I figured it was a misprint | 16:01 |
| charlie-tca | I one that did that a month or two ago. Wanted to know how to make things work in it, too | 16:16 |
| Myrtti | what's this Laurentos fellow with this "poor X" thing | 16:25 |
| Myrtti | I have a vague recollection... | 16:25 |
| Myrtti | it always makes me feel warm and fuzzy when I'm being referred to as nazi | 16:31 |
| popey | indeed | 16:31 |
| Myrtti | well, that was surprising | 16:39 |
| Myrtti | knock me with a feather | 16:39 |
| Tm_T | uh, did anyone give a talk for r00t4rd3d after his nazi comment? | 17:09 |
| Tm_T | he is apparently begging our attention in an increasing level | 17:10 |
| Myrtti | I can't be bothered to smudge my hands in discussions with him while helping mum with carelian pastries | 17:13 |
| IdleOne | I can't be bothered to talk to him either. He has been asked to change his nick a few times already and we have given him slack because when he helps, he is helpful. Being helpful does not give him the right to be a jerk to the ops team. | 17:27 |
| IdleOne | now he is banned. | 17:28 |
| mneptok | Myrtti: pulla?! | 17:45 |
| * mneptok has not had pulla at the holidays since his Karelian-Swedish-Finn grandmother passed away :( | 17:45 | |
| r00t4rd3d | IdleOne, you fucking little girl | 17:50 |
| r00t4rd3d | suck my cock | 17:50 |
| Pici | what the? | 17:50 |
| pleia2 | (little girl as insult)-- | 17:51 |
| IdleOne | Good morning :) | 17:51 |
| * pleia2 hugs IdleOne | 17:52 | |
| * IdleOne gives pleia2 a big Happy Holidays hug | 17:52 | |
| r00t4rd3d | why was i banned ? | 17:57 |
| IdleOne | thank you for rejoining r00t4rd3d | 17:57 |
| r00t4rd3d | why was i banned ? | 17:57 |
| r00t4rd3d | why was i banned ? | 17:58 |
| jrib | r00t4rd3d: be patient | 17:58 |
| IdleOne | The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. You refused and we gave you some slack because when you are active in #ubuntu you are helpful. | 17:58 |
| IdleOne | r00t4rd3d: calm down or I will ban you from here also. | 17:58 |
| IdleOne | BUT | 17:58 |
| r00t4rd3d | so im banned cause my nickname ? | 17:59 |
| r00t4rd3d | thats cool | 17:59 |
| IdleOne | you have also be increasingly belligerent towards the ops team | 17:59 |
| IdleOne | what a fucking idiot | 17:59 |
| IdleOne | screw him | 17:59 |
| * IdleOne goes back to his cake and coffee | 17:59 | |
| Pici | IdleOne: language. vent elsewhere. | 17:59 |
| jrib | yes, no point in getting worked up over irc | 18:00 |
| IdleOne | Pici: apologies and yes you are right also jrib | 18:00 |
| Pici | I usually end up yelling at my screen. | 18:00 |
| * jrib nods at Pici | 18:00 | |
| Pici | Well, not usually, I try to walk away before that happens. | 18:00 |
| IdleOne | I was planning on explaining exactly why I banned him, really the nick name does not bother me that much, more the attitude we have been given since he was asked to change it. I was then going to ask him to be nice towards the ops and try and work with us but he chose not to give me a minute to type (sorry I don't type 120wpm) | 18:05 |
| * mneptok feels the love | 18:08 | |
| * Pici wonders what rigved is trying to explain | 18:32 | |
| IdleOne | something to do with wine I believe | 18:32 |
| jrib | !guidelines > debugg3r | 20:20 |
| Myrtti | whats wrong with people... | 20:23 |
| jrib | should see my pm... | 20:23 |
| Myrtti | i can imagine | 20:24 |
| * popey yells at Picis screen | 20:31 | |
| IdleOne | still being harassed by r00t4rd3d in PM. you think after these few hours they would of calmed down enough to come back here and discuss like an adult. I guess it is easier to stay mad and swear at me in PM | 22:10 |
| IdleOne | he is also ban evading | 22:18 |
| IdleOne | 122310-[17:15:29] <r00t4rd3d> <EngrChris> for both netbook and desktop cds | 22:18 |
| IdleOne | 122310-[17:15:31] <r00t4rd3d> heh | 22:18 |
| IdleOne | 122310-[17:15:45] <r00t4rd3d> allowed back in ? LOL | 22:18 |
| IdleOne | 122310-[17:15:59] <r00t4rd3d> You couldnt keep me out on your best day. | 22:18 |
| r00t4rd3d | :D | 22:20 |
| * r00t4rd3d All bow before the F'in Idiot. | 22:21 | |
| Tm_T | pardon? | 22:23 |
| r00t4rd3d | "IdleOnewhat a fucking idiot" | 22:24 |
| IdleOne | he is gloating about ban evading | 22:24 |
| IdleOne | that is what I said r00t4rd3d | 22:24 |
| IdleOne | We have logs which you seem able to find and read | 22:24 |
| r00t4rd3d | IdleOne, I was just messing with you. You must not know about the logs | 22:24 |
| r00t4rd3d | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | 22:25 |
| r00t4rd3d | I can read everything that said. | 22:25 |
| IdleOne | be sure to read this hours log when it is posted | 22:25 |
| r00t4rd3d | I will to see what foul names you call me. | 22:26 |
| IdleOne | just the one I did earlier today and it still stands | 22:26 |
| r00t4rd3d | In essence your no better then me. | 22:26 |
| IdleOne | Tm_T: could you please handle this if you have the time. | 22:26 |
| Tm_T | sure | 22:26 |
| IdleOne | I never claimed to be better then you. | 22:26 |
| r00t4rd3d | Then why did you ban me ? | 22:27 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: just this: there's no excuse for bad behaviour | 22:27 |
| r00t4rd3d | Tm_T, I realize that/ | 22:27 |
| Tm_T | IdleOne's job is to keep ubuntu channels clean and on their purpose | 22:27 |
| r00t4rd3d | I was clean and on topic. | 22:27 |
| r00t4rd3d | "The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. " | 22:28 |
| r00t4rd3d | I was asked once from Jordan to change my nick and I said no. | 22:28 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: so did you come and discuss this calmly here? | 22:28 |
| r00t4rd3d | He seems to get over it. | 22:28 |
| r00t4rd3d | Idle cannot for some reason. | 22:28 |
| r00t4rd3d | I cant discuss anything with someone that calls me a fucking idiot , could you ? | 22:29 |
| IdleOne | did you happen to read | 22:29 |
| IdleOne | <IdleOne> I was planning on explaining exactly why I banned him, really the nick name does not bother me that much, more the attitude we have been given since he was asked to change it. I was then going to ask him to be nice towards the ops and try and work with us but he chose not to give me a minute to type (sorry I don't type 120wpm) | 22:29 |
| r00t4rd3d | "The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. " | 22:29 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: so you could have talked to some other op, like, me | 22:29 |
| r00t4rd3d | Thats a false statement. | 22:29 |
| IdleOne | whatever dude. The ban is sticking. | 22:29 |
| r00t4rd3d | Tm_T, see how I can discuss anything with him ? | 22:30 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: I repeat, so you could have talked to some other op, like, me | 22:30 |
| r00t4rd3d | well i tried to deal with this with the person who banned me for nothing. | 22:31 |
| Tm_T | the next step is to come here to discuss with other ops | 22:31 |
| r00t4rd3d | Well I didnt know that. | 22:31 |
| Tm_T | you could have asked, right? | 22:31 |
| r00t4rd3d | I was somewhat irritated at being banned for no reason. | 22:33 |
| IdleOne | you keep saying there was no reason but you never gave me time to finish telling you my reason | 22:33 |
| r00t4rd3d | "The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. " | 22:33 |
| r00t4rd3d | what more needs to be said dude ? | 22:34 |
| IdleOne | if you are going to quote me, quote EVERYTHING I said. | 22:34 |
| r00t4rd3d | sry | 22:34 |
| r00t4rd3d | The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. You refused and we gave you some slack because when you are active in #ubuntu you are helpful.17:58 | 22:34 |
| r00t4rd3d | IdleOne | 22:34 |
| IdleOne | not just the part you think is going to get my ops removed | 22:34 |
| mneptok | <IdleOne> I was planning on explaining exactly why I banned him, really the nick name does not bother me that much, more the attitude we have been given since he was asked to change it. I was then going to ask him to be nice towards the ops and try and work with us but he chose not to give me a minute to type (sorry I don't type 120wpm) | 22:34 |
| Tm_T | this really doesn't matter now I think | 22:35 |
| mneptok | agreed | 22:35 |
| mneptok | the behavior on this channel today is of far more concern to me personally. | 22:35 |
| r00t4rd3d | Sorry I got pissed for kick/ban for a BS reason. | 22:36 |
| IdleOne | I also said this to you in PM | 22:36 |
| IdleOne | <IdleOne> ok how about this. stop messaging me. go to the IRCC and complain all you want. I don't care. | 22:36 |
| IdleOne | <IdleOne> you have proven yourself to be to unstable to be allowed back into #ubuntu with everything you have said to me in private | 22:36 |
| IdleOne | which is when you bragged to me about already being in there | 22:36 |
| Tm_T | IdleOne: step back, please | 22:36 |
| IdleOne | o.k. | 22:37 |
| r00t4rd3d | I was ruffling your feathers peacock. | 22:37 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: I have noticed that you react quite strongly on any of our administrative actions, so I don't think I can allow you back to #ubuntu until I'm confident you're not making more trouble | 22:38 |
| mneptok | someone who finds enjoyment in deliberately ruffling feathers and trying to provoke responses from people is not a good addition to Ubuntu channels, IMO. | 22:39 |
| Tm_T | if you wonder why, I can provide several separate reasons, but I'm sure you know this yourself too | 22:39 |
| r00t4rd3d | You make it sound like Im a problem child you guys have had to deal with me on numerous occasions. | 22:40 |
| r00t4rd3d | ^and | 22:40 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: not a problem child no, just that I think a short vacation would do you good, considering all the heat | 22:40 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: sounds fair? | 22:42 |
| r00t4rd3d | no not really but I dont think thats going to get me any where. | 22:42 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: either case, welcome back here to discuss your ban when you are ready to follow our rules, or, if you feel so, you can always appeal to IRCC | 22:44 |
| r00t4rd3d | Im here dicussing. | 22:44 |
| Tm_T | we are not going to discuss this further now | 22:44 |
| r00t4rd3d | I was following the rules till I was unjustly banned. | 22:44 |
| r00t4rd3d | and nothing but helpful and on topic in #ubuntu | 22:45 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: just an example, calling an ops nazis isn't "by the rules" | 22:45 |
| Tm_T | an excellent example of your recent attitude | 22:46 |
| r00t4rd3d | I make one off the wall comment and Im not following the rules? | 22:47 |
| r00t4rd3d | one time. | 22:47 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: as I said, it's just an example, there's more of such attitude | 22:47 |
| r00t4rd3d | Example ? | 22:47 |
| Tm_T | seriously, this discussion wont be of any use other than wasting time | 22:49 |
| r00t4rd3d | You dont have anything else. My nickname issue , which was over with , and an off the wall nazi comment. Thats it. | 22:49 |
| Tm_T | 1950.43 < r00t4rd3d> IdleOne, you fucking little girl | 22:49 |
| Tm_T | just how many examples do you need? | 22:50 |
| r00t4rd3d | IdleOnewhat a fucking idiot | 22:50 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: there's no excuse for bad behaviour | 22:50 |
| r00t4rd3d | So whats idles punishment ? | 22:50 |
| Tm_T | that is not discussed now | 22:50 |
| r00t4rd3d | If you hold to that statement ? | 22:50 |
| r00t4rd3d | I cant call him dirty names but he can call me dirty names ? | 22:51 |
| r00t4rd3d | Whats up with that ? | 22:51 |
| r00t4rd3d | Isnt he suppose to be held to a higher level cause of op status ? | 22:51 |
| Tm_T | that is not discussed now | 22:52 |
| r00t4rd3d | sure | 22:52 |
| r00t4rd3d | No excuse for bad behavior unless your an op. In with the boys. | 22:52 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: there's no excuse for bad behaviour, period. | 22:53 |
| popey | It might be useful if the ops could indeed come up with evidence of bad behaviour in #ubuntu by r00t4rd3d | 22:53 |
| r00t4rd3d | Please do ! | 22:53 |
| popey | i have just grepped my entire #ubuntu log for r00t4rd3d and I must admit I'm seeing a lot of helpful comments to users | 22:53 |
| r00t4rd3d | popey, there isnt any ! NONE. | 22:53 |
| popey | there is the smattering of language like 'piece of shit' and 'crappy computer' when refering to old/dated/slow hardware | 22:54 |
| r00t4rd3d | I wish you could see my 4 hour pm's with people getting their wireless stuff to work. | 22:54 |
| Tm_T | popey: actually his behaviour in this channel matters too, I do not count them separate | 22:54 |
| popey | but a significant amount of help to users as well | 22:54 |
| popey | I am not suggesting that helping users gives someone carte blanche to trash-talk or abuse the ops | 22:54 |
| Tm_T | I know | 22:55 |
| popey | I am not suggesting that Tm_T | 22:55 |
| popey | just putting another perspective forward | 22:55 |
| Tm_T | I just don't see a point on discussing this ban further now when the heat is up | 22:55 |
| r00t4rd3d | All ive done is help and how i am rewarded with that ? Rootarded change your nick. | 22:55 |
| popey | maybe we could all sleep on it :) | 22:55 |
| Tm_T | that's what I suggested some time ago I think | 22:56 |
| Tm_T | if not clearly enough | 22:56 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: what if we continue on this after ~48 hour break so both sides have some time to cool off and freshen their minds, it's holiday and all | 22:59 |
| r00t4rd3d | Thats fine but I think IdleOne should get the same treatment. | 22:59 |
| popey | thanks. | 23:00 |
| r00t4rd3d | Thats sounds fair ? | 23:00 |
| IdleOne | what treatment is that? | 23:00 |
| r00t4rd3d | a 48 hour break for the fucking idiot comment. | 23:00 |
| IdleOne | break from what exactly | 23:00 |
| IdleOne | from you? ok | 23:01 |
| IdleOne | sounds fair. | 23:01 |
| Tm_T | IdleOne: please stop | 23:02 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: see you in two days then, happy holidays | 23:02 |
| r00t4rd3d | Okay bye. | 23:02 |
| IdleOne | 122310-[18:02:58] <r00t4rd3d> night night sweetie :D | 23:03 |
| Tm_T | IdleOne: you really got to stop making things worse with your comments | 23:03 |
| IdleOne | right after he left here | 23:03 |
| popey | +1 | 23:03 |
| Tm_T | I gotta go to sleep now, good night | 23:04 |
| * Tm_T huggles all | 23:04 | |
| IdleOne | good night Tm_T | 23:04 |
| tonyyarusso | IdleOne: If I may advise, generally when something degenerates to the point of needing to have a different op converse with the user instead, it is best to only offer additional comments if the other op requests further information - otherwise there was little point in stepping back in the first place, and having two people working different angles gets confusing for everyone. | 23:46 |
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