[00:35] bed time [04:13] keep an eye on the nick one, they were using onetoneturd I banned the nick after asking them to change it and they joined a second client instead. [05:11] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () [05:20] IdleOne: ? [05:58] lovely PM I got. [05:59] check 36070 comments [06:00] O_O [06:05] IdleOne: you got 36070 comments? wow, that's pretty spammy! [06:06] You are not figuring that some of those are onions [07:50] oh lordy [07:50] is this begging for laptops an upcoming trend now? [07:52] who else? [07:52] at #ubuntu [07:52] Guest39371 [07:59] [09:58] ~~~mode/#irssi [-b *!~dhruvasag@*] by Dirm [07:59] [09:58] ~~~dhruvasagar [~dhruvasag@65.98.79.137] has joined #irssi [07:59] [09:58] ~~~mode/#irssi [+v dhruvasagar] by ChanServ [07:59] [09:58] <+dhruvasagar> Dirm: thanks a lot [07:59] [09:58] * dhruvasagar Apologizes to everyone for the annoying frequent nick changes last night [08:01] was about to say something about using profanity as a sign of intellectual poverty, but then remembered how much I swear IRL [08:01] "oh well" [08:04] could someone please check he's not banned on #ubuntu anymore, my eyes are playing a trick on me and I can't see it on the banlist, but I'm not sure either [08:10] IdleOne: thanks [08:10] sure thing, I didn't see anything else matching [09:21] People's nicks are a touchy subject, and I don't know where to draw the line. "RORgasm" probably wasn't going to do any harm, and I'm not being a great catalyst by *causing* conflict :( [09:29] true [09:29] Jordan_U: I guess unless it's an obvious offense, it's "ok" [09:34] asking nicely in PM usually doesn't harm though [09:35] I'd like to +m ubuntu and you can only help once you've taken a test to show you can work an issue through logically rather than just throwing random ideas out [10:15] !remastersys is remaster [10:15] I'll remember that, cdbs [11:50] !find remastersys [11:50] Package/file remastersys does not exist in maverick [11:50] !remastersys [11:50] Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility [11:51] afaik remastersys is a third party app; should it be included in a factoid ? [11:51] people ask about it a lot [11:51] yep, but there's no link to it in the factoid itself [11:51] all those misguided people who want to "LOL! I'm gonna make my own distro based on Ubunto!" [11:51] hehe [11:52] may as well start linking to OMG!UBUNTU and WEbupd8!! [12:08] I don't think it should be there [12:09] or it should be a detailed factoid saying it's nothing to do with ubuntu [12:09] !forget remastersys [12:09] I'll forget that, ikonia [12:11] agreed [12:22] I disagree - we have help.u.c link there, just because remastersys is an alias, doesnt mean it shouldnt be there at all [12:24] !remaster [12:24] Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility [12:24] that, as a factoid makes good sense to me. [12:29] especially with uck in the repos. [12:41] Is there something wrong with remastersys though? I don't see the harm in listing it at the end of that factoid [13:19] Would be good to add to the #ubuntu+1 topic: GTK 2.23.3 is broken, please don't upgrade until its fixed [13:19] this issue is causing major issues, such as no GDM for login [13:19] and I just learnt that the hard way. had to downgrade to have this system working again [13:20] issue confirmed by people on #ubuntu-desktop [13:20] cdbs: you happen to know a bug number? [13:21] jrib: searching for it [13:21] the thing is, the issue is VERY recent [13:21] I thing began around 1-2 hours ago [13:21] so there's no official announcement, nor anyone has filed a bug (yet) [13:23] cdbs: is the package libgtk2.0-0 in natty or something else? [13:26] cdbs: I updated the topic, if you find a bug number let one of us know :) [13:27] Thanks jrib [13:27] jrib: okay, I got to go. sorry for that. its that 2 of us are facing that issue [13:27] err, 3 [13:27] on #ubuntu-desktop [14:07] jrib: is this what cdbs wanted? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/693737 [14:07] Ubuntu bug 693737 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "gtk+2.0 update 2.23.3-1ubuntu2 update triggers repeated gdm greeter crashes" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:12] oh lord, here we go again [14:12] :) [14:23] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (iwantcookie appears to be abusive - 4) [14:23] I kinda saw that coming [14:27] this one too, probably [14:35] told ya [14:43] charlie-tca: probably, yeah [15:08] * popey notes Fredy in pm asking for my sex, age, email address, location, yahoo messenger id.. [15:10] Keep in mind that he isn't identified. But thanks for the heads up [15:13] popey: which channels is he with you, only #ubuntu? [15:14] yes [15:14] wow [15:16] popey: Refer him to the DPA? [16:01] is he really thinking of installing Ubuntu 5.x? [16:01] seriously? [16:01] * popey shrugs [16:01] I figured it was a misprint [16:16] I one that did that a month or two ago. Wanted to know how to make things work in it, too [16:25] what's this Laurentos fellow with this "poor X" thing [16:25] I have a vague recollection... [16:31] it always makes me feel warm and fuzzy when I'm being referred to as nazi [16:31] indeed [16:39] well, that was surprising [16:39] knock me with a feather [17:09] uh, did anyone give a talk for r00t4rd3d after his nazi comment? [17:10] he is apparently begging our attention in an increasing level [17:13] I can't be bothered to smudge my hands in discussions with him while helping mum with carelian pastries [17:27] I can't be bothered to talk to him either. He has been asked to change his nick a few times already and we have given him slack because when he helps, he is helpful. Being helpful does not give him the right to be a jerk to the ops team. [17:28] now he is banned. [17:45] Myrtti: pulla?! [17:45] * mneptok has not had pulla at the holidays since his Karelian-Swedish-Finn grandmother passed away :( [17:50] IdleOne, you fucking little girl [17:50] suck my cock [17:50] what the? [17:51] (little girl as insult)-- [17:51] Good morning :) [17:52] * pleia2 hugs IdleOne [17:52] * IdleOne gives pleia2 a big Happy Holidays hug [17:57] why was i banned ? [17:57] thank you for rejoining r00t4rd3d [17:57] why was i banned ? [17:58] why was i banned ? [17:58] r00t4rd3d: be patient [17:58] The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. You refused and we gave you some slack because when you are active in #ubuntu you are helpful. [17:58] r00t4rd3d: calm down or I will ban you from here also. [17:58] BUT [17:59] so im banned cause my nickname ? [17:59] thats cool [17:59] you have also be increasingly belligerent towards the ops team [17:59] what a fucking idiot [17:59] screw him [17:59] * IdleOne goes back to his cake and coffee [17:59] IdleOne: language. vent elsewhere. [18:00] yes, no point in getting worked up over irc [18:00] Pici: apologies and yes you are right also jrib [18:00] I usually end up yelling at my screen. [18:00] * jrib nods at Pici [18:00] Well, not usually, I try to walk away before that happens. [18:05] I was planning on explaining exactly why I banned him, really the nick name does not bother me that much, more the attitude we have been given since he was asked to change it. I was then going to ask him to be nice towards the ops and try and work with us but he chose not to give me a minute to type (sorry I don't type 120wpm) [18:08] * mneptok feels the love [18:32] * Pici wonders what rigved is trying to explain [18:32] something to do with wine I believe [20:20] !guidelines > debugg3r [20:23] whats wrong with people... [20:23] should see my pm... [20:24] i can imagine [20:31] * popey yells at Picis screen [22:10] still being harassed by r00t4rd3d in PM. you think after these few hours they would of calmed down enough to come back here and discuss like an adult. I guess it is easier to stay mad and swear at me in PM [22:18] he is also ban evading [22:18] 122310-[17:15:29] for both netbook and desktop cds [22:18] 122310-[17:15:31] heh [22:18] 122310-[17:15:45] allowed back in ? LOL [22:18] 122310-[17:15:59] You couldnt keep me out on your best day. [22:20] :D [22:21] * r00t4rd3d All bow before the F'in Idiot. [22:23] pardon? [22:24] "IdleOne what a fucking idiot" [22:24] he is gloating about ban evading [22:24] that is what I said r00t4rd3d [22:24] We have logs which you seem able to find and read [22:24] IdleOne, I was just messing with you. You must not know about the logs [22:25] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [22:25] I can read everything that said. [22:25] be sure to read this hours log when it is posted [22:26] I will to see what foul names you call me. [22:26] just the one I did earlier today and it still stands [22:26] In essence your no better then me. [22:26] Tm_T: could you please handle this if you have the time. [22:26] sure [22:26] I never claimed to be better then you. [22:27] Then why did you ban me ? [22:27] r00t4rd3d: just this: there's no excuse for bad behaviour [22:27] Tm_T, I realize that/ [22:27] IdleOne's job is to keep ubuntu channels clean and on their purpose [22:27] I was clean and on topic. [22:28] "The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. " [22:28] I was asked once from Jordan to change my nick and I said no. [22:28] r00t4rd3d: so did you come and discuss this calmly here? [22:28] He seems to get over it. [22:28] Idle cannot for some reason. [22:29] I cant discuss anything with someone that calls me a fucking idiot , could you ? [22:29] did you happen to read [22:29] I was planning on explaining exactly why I banned him, really the nick name does not bother me that much, more the attitude we have been given since he was asked to change it. I was then going to ask him to be nice towards the ops and try and work with us but he chose not to give me a minute to type (sorry I don't type 120wpm) [22:29] "The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. " [22:29] r00t4rd3d: so you could have talked to some other op, like, me [22:29] Thats a false statement. [22:29] whatever dude. The ban is sticking. [22:30] Tm_T, see how I can discuss anything with him ? [22:30] r00t4rd3d: I repeat, so you could have talked to some other op, like, me [22:31] well i tried to deal with this with the person who banned me for nothing. [22:31] the next step is to come here to discuss with other ops [22:31] Well I didnt know that. [22:31] you could have asked, right? [22:33] I was somewhat irritated at being banned for no reason. [22:33] you keep saying there was no reason but you never gave me time to finish telling you my reason [22:33] "The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. " [22:34] what more needs to be said dude ? [22:34] if you are going to quote me, quote EVERYTHING I said. [22:34] sry [22:34] The reason I banned you is because over the past week or so we have asked you to change your nick on a couple of occasions. You refused and we gave you some slack because when you are active in #ubuntu you are helpful. 17:58 [22:34] IdleOne [22:34] not just the part you think is going to get my ops removed [22:34] I was planning on explaining exactly why I banned him, really the nick name does not bother me that much, more the attitude we have been given since he was asked to change it. I was then going to ask him to be nice towards the ops and try and work with us but he chose not to give me a minute to type (sorry I don't type 120wpm) [22:35] this really doesn't matter now I think [22:35] agreed [22:35] the behavior on this channel today is of far more concern to me personally. [22:36] Sorry I got pissed for kick/ban for a BS reason. [22:36] I also said this to you in PM [22:36] ok how about this. stop messaging me. go to the IRCC and complain all you want. I don't care. [22:36] you have proven yourself to be to unstable to be allowed back into #ubuntu with everything you have said to me in private [22:36] which is when you bragged to me about already being in there [22:36] IdleOne: step back, please [22:37] o.k. [22:37] I was ruffling your feathers peacock. [22:38] r00t4rd3d: I have noticed that you react quite strongly on any of our administrative actions, so I don't think I can allow you back to #ubuntu until I'm confident you're not making more trouble [22:39] someone who finds enjoyment in deliberately ruffling feathers and trying to provoke responses from people is not a good addition to Ubuntu channels, IMO. [22:39] if you wonder why, I can provide several separate reasons, but I'm sure you know this yourself too [22:40] You make it sound like Im a problem child you guys have had to deal with me on numerous occasions. [22:40] ^and [22:40] r00t4rd3d: not a problem child no, just that I think a short vacation would do you good, considering all the heat [22:42] r00t4rd3d: sounds fair? [22:42] no not really but I dont think thats going to get me any where. [22:44] r00t4rd3d: either case, welcome back here to discuss your ban when you are ready to follow our rules, or, if you feel so, you can always appeal to IRCC [22:44] Im here dicussing. [22:44] we are not going to discuss this further now [22:44] I was following the rules till I was unjustly banned. [22:45] and nothing but helpful and on topic in #ubuntu [22:45] r00t4rd3d: just an example, calling an ops nazis isn't "by the rules" [22:46] an excellent example of your recent attitude [22:47] I make one off the wall comment and Im not following the rules? [22:47] one time. [22:47] r00t4rd3d: as I said, it's just an example, there's more of such attitude [22:47] Example ? [22:49] seriously, this discussion wont be of any use other than wasting time [22:49] You dont have anything else. My nickname issue , which was over with , and an off the wall nazi comment. Thats it. [22:49] 1950.43 < r00t4rd3d> IdleOne, you fucking little girl [22:50] just how many examples do you need? [22:50] IdleOne what a fucking idiot [22:50] r00t4rd3d: there's no excuse for bad behaviour [22:50] So whats idles punishment ? [22:50] that is not discussed now [22:50] If you hold to that statement ? [22:51] I cant call him dirty names but he can call me dirty names ? [22:51] Whats up with that ? [22:51] Isnt he suppose to be held to a higher level cause of op status ? [22:52] that is not discussed now [22:52] sure [22:52] No excuse for bad behavior unless your an op. In with the boys. [22:53] r00t4rd3d: there's no excuse for bad behaviour, period. [22:53] It might be useful if the ops could indeed come up with evidence of bad behaviour in #ubuntu by r00t4rd3d [22:53] Please do ! [22:53] i have just grepped my entire #ubuntu log for r00t4rd3d and I must admit I'm seeing a lot of helpful comments to users [22:53] popey, there isnt any ! NONE. [22:54] there is the smattering of language like 'piece of shit' and 'crappy computer' when refering to old/dated/slow hardware [22:54] I wish you could see my 4 hour pm's with people getting their wireless stuff to work. [22:54] popey: actually his behaviour in this channel matters too, I do not count them separate [22:54] but a significant amount of help to users as well [22:54] I am not suggesting that helping users gives someone carte blanche to trash-talk or abuse the ops [22:55] I know [22:55] I am not suggesting that Tm_T [22:55] just putting another perspective forward [22:55] I just don't see a point on discussing this ban further now when the heat is up [22:55] All ive done is help and how i am rewarded with that ? Rootarded change your nick. [22:55] maybe we could all sleep on it :) [22:56] that's what I suggested some time ago I think [22:56] if not clearly enough [22:59] r00t4rd3d: what if we continue on this after ~48 hour break so both sides have some time to cool off and freshen their minds, it's holiday and all [22:59] Thats fine but I think IdleOne should get the same treatment. [23:00] thanks. [23:00] Thats sounds fair ? [23:00] what treatment is that? [23:00] a 48 hour break for the fucking idiot comment. [23:00] break from what exactly [23:01] from you? ok [23:01] sounds fair. [23:02] IdleOne: please stop [23:02] r00t4rd3d: see you in two days then, happy holidays [23:02] Okay bye. [23:03] 122310-[18:02:58] night night sweetie :D [23:03] IdleOne: you really got to stop making things worse with your comments [23:03] right after he left here [23:03] +1 [23:04] I gotta go to sleep now, good night [23:04] * Tm_T huggles all [23:04] good night Tm_T [23:46] IdleOne: If I may advise, generally when something degenerates to the point of needing to have a different op converse with the user instead, it is best to only offer additional comments if the other op requests further information - otherwise there was little point in stepping back in the first place, and having two people working different angles gets confusing for everyone.