[00:51] so i was wandering around haight-ashbury two days ago. there was one section, a sliver of golden gate park, right by the mc donald's that was..."interesting" [00:51] i should read up on the history...sounds like an attempt at community that failed. [04:12] okay i've picked a place for The Ubuntu Hour: Palo Alto: Antonio’s Nut House 321 California Ave , http://www.antoniosnuthouse.com/ [04:14] Geez, do site developers never learn about

its not gorgeous, but its got LOTS of character (and Beer, burgers, pool, tea and coffee avail next door at Starbucks). akk, aaditya, crashsystems, crashsystems1, jledbetter, jtatum, kdub_, mcgrof, pleia2, Yasumoto. [04:16] i think i'll do it at 6-7pm. [04:17] if that will work for other people [04:18] I can't get down there that early, but have fun :) [04:18] well i could make it 7-8 then pleia2 [04:19] see what other people say, I suspect some people will be coming from work around there and earlier will work *shrug* [04:19] pleia2: well don't forget jledbetter will be there and i'm sure she'd love to meet you. [04:19] when? [04:19] pleia2: come again please [04:20] pleia2: jledbetter will be visiting from Virgina [04:20] when are you planning to have this ubuntu hour? [04:20] oh, yeah i forgot to say the day. doh! [04:21] Thur Dec. 30th, 7-8 [04:21] ah ok [04:22] hmm, no boyfriend at work that day so I can probably take the car [04:24] there was a photo of Mark Zuckerburg at Antonio's Nut House in Time magazine last week. [04:24] apparently the Facebook crowd hangs out there [04:25] Saw a great post about Zuckerburg (sort of) on Twitter RT'ed by Cat Allman: "Being named Coolest Person of the Year by Time is basically equivalent to being called Astrophysicist of the Year by Cat Fancy Mag" [04:28] oops, i mispelled his name. i guess its Zuckerberg. and the article about him being Time mag's Man of the Year has a photo of him in Antonio's Nut House. [04:29] i enjoyed the movie "Social Network" about the origins of Facebook. [04:54] nUboon2Age, a lot of people liked the movie, i think i know enough about facebook's history though without seeing it. i laughed at this article from the onion on zuckerberg today: http://www.theonion.com/articles/mark-zuckerberg-gotta-hand-it-to-the-little-fucker,18633/ it was just so...i dunno, unapologetic. [04:54] anyway, night all [14:44] Wow. That place really does have character. [17:22] yeah, if the irc channel is any indication, i don't think noisebridge is for me [17:26] What's the irc channel like? [17:32] seidos: it's not, I like noisebridge but their channel is awful :( [17:32] akk: very immature, frequently offensive [17:32] * pleia2 stopped joining [17:32] i guess a visit is in order then. perhaps in january [17:33] seidos: you should come out on a wednesday night some time, that's linux night so you can be greeted by some familiar faces :) [17:33] i'm going to be in the union square area today, but i don't know the city well enough to navigate to mission from there [17:34] oh, okay, cool pleia2. hopefully i remember that. [17:34] from there you walk down powell toward market and take BART to 16th and mission [17:34] i also want to start going to the zen center in the city. [17:34] i am walking pleia2. [17:35] ah [17:36] and i could look it up on google maps, but then i'd have to remember the directions ^_^. i am taking my sweet time, i am in no rush. [17:37] mission is just one street past market [17:37] powell > cross market and take 5th street down to mission [17:37] that'll put you at 5th and mission, noisebridge is 17th and mission [17:45] at least the channel is still better than the mailing lists [17:45] oh, your good intentions reminds me of something. [17:45] how's everybody doing? [17:46] mailing lists worse than the channel? that's a bummer. [17:46] it's sunny out today, how lovely :) [17:47] their mailing list is at least sometimes informative (I just skip the bickering threads, as usual) [17:47] and the announce list is good [17:47] skipping the bickering is possible? [17:47] I find the channel completely useless [17:47] someone was working on some regexp yesterday in the channel [17:47] sn9: yes, there are several lists I have to do it on ;) [17:47] i thought that was kind of interesting [17:47] couldn't solve the problem though [17:48] when I first moved here they only had one op in the channel who would randomly op people, who would also randomly op people, and then kick people for the lulz [17:49] i don't know, it's just that "shock jock"/"trollish" vibe...i just don't find it amusing, even though i think that's what they're going for. [17:49] yeah, same [17:49] maybe i'm out of touch now that i'm older [17:49] my initial reaction was "I am not cool enough for noisebridge" [17:50] sounds like a bot [17:50] (I still sorta feel that way to some extent, but it helps to know people there) [17:51] hmmm, i think my initial reaction was "i should probably shut my mouth and not say anything in this channel", but then i had to go and ruin it and type something [17:51] ^_^ [17:51] oh I don't talk for weeks upon initial join of a channel [17:51] :) [17:52] that's a wise policy. check the logs later? not a bad idea. [17:52] for #ubuntu? [17:52] I usually like getting a feel for a place before jumping in [17:53] gah, #ubuntu, that's probably a good idea. though i'm not sure how useful i will be to end users. i'm still running karmic. [17:53] sometimes speaking is a great way to get a feel for the place. [17:53] sn9: #ubuntu is a support channel, not really the same as a team or social channel like here or #noisebridge [17:54] seidos: I'm shy :) speaking is *never* a great way for me to do anything! [17:54] i find it to be an absolutely superb way for me to make an ass of myself [17:54] lol [17:55] pleia2, i am dr. jekyll and mr. hyde. it all depends on how smoothly i want societal affair to go. [17:56] I only break out of wallflower when I have a purpose (like helping run an event, or booth, or am doing a talk) and even then it's very difficult and draining [17:56] ah, if that were true, then i'd probably never say anything, which is quite challenging. [17:57] i have this silly notion quite often that i actually possess valuable information in my cerebral cortex that should be transmitted. [17:57] yeah, that's how I used to be, then I learned that I could help with stuff and that it helped overcome the shyness, was hoping that getting more involved would fix my shyness all around [17:58] "Someone is wrong on the internet!" [17:58] how did you learn you could "help with stuff" pleia2? [17:59] i have no delusions that anything i do can really be construed as "helping". self-improvement, maybe. but helping? ehhhh [17:59] seidos: started with work, I realized I wasn't shy at work [17:59] the lug in philly was always asking people to help out, so I pitched in there [17:59] eventually became the coordinator for the whole thing [18:00] pleia2, ah, i see. we're talking about shyness and i'm talking about practical tasks ^_^. you don't seem shy to me. you just seem...normal. [18:00] perhaps your shyness is more a feeling more than a character trait. [18:00] I think every time we've met I've been playing organizational person [18:01] if we met at a party... we probably wouldn't have met, I'd be hiding :) [18:01] i used to be *very* shy. but school, work, karaoke, dancing, bars, clubs put a stop to that. [18:02] well, if we met at a party, we probably wouldn't have met because i tend to just watch people at parties these days. [18:02] er, went to a party, not met at a party. [18:02] sorry, my mind is on making the meal. i should get on that. [18:03] hehe [18:03] enjoy [18:16] actually, i think i should probably be more shy, or at least reserved. observe and learn, that kind of thing. i kind of went from extremely shy, to extremely vocal, bordering on obnoxious. it's difficult to find the right balance.