[00:51] <seidos> so i was wandering around haight-ashbury two days ago.  there was one section, a sliver of golden gate park, right by the mc donald's that was..."interesting"
[00:51] <seidos> i should read up on the history...sounds like an attempt at community that failed.
[04:12] <nUboon2Age> okay i've picked a place for The Ubuntu Hour: Palo Alto: Antonio’s Nut House 321 California Ave , http://www.antoniosnuthouse.com/
[04:14] <akk> Geez, do site developers never learn about <noscript> tags any more?
[04:16] <nUboon2Age> its not gorgeous, but its got LOTS of character (and Beer, burgers, pool, tea and coffee avail next door at Starbucks).  akk, aaditya, crashsystems, crashsystems1, jledbetter, jtatum, kdub_, mcgrof, pleia2, Yasumoto.
[04:16] <nUboon2Age> i think i'll do it at 6-7pm.
[04:17] <nUboon2Age> if that will work for other people
[04:18] <pleia2> I can't get down there that early, but have fun :)
[04:18] <nUboon2Age> well i could make it 7-8 then pleia2
[04:19] <pleia2> see what other people say, I suspect some people will be coming from work around there and earlier will work *shrug*
[04:19] <nUboon2Age> pleia2: well don't forget jledbetter will be there and i'm sure she'd love to meet you.
[04:19] <pleia2> when?
[04:19] <nUboon2Age> pleia2: come again please
[04:20] <nUboon2Age> pleia2: jledbetter will be visiting from Virgina
[04:20] <pleia2> when are you planning to have this ubuntu hour?
[04:20] <nUboon2Age> oh, yeah i forgot to say the day. doh!
[04:21] <nUboon2Age> Thur Dec. 30th, 7-8
[04:21] <pleia2> ah ok
[04:22] <pleia2> hmm, no boyfriend at work that day so I can probably take the car
[04:24] <nUboon2Age> there was a photo of Mark Zuckerburg at Antonio's Nut House in Time magazine last week.
[04:24] <nUboon2Age> apparently the Facebook crowd hangs out there
[04:25] <akk> Saw a great post about Zuckerburg (sort of) on Twitter RT'ed by Cat Allman: "Being named Coolest Person of the Year by Time is basically equivalent to being called Astrophysicist of the Year by Cat Fancy Mag"
[04:28] <nUboon2Age> oops, i mispelled his name.  i guess its Zuckerberg.  and the article about him being Time mag's Man of the Year has a photo of him in Antonio's Nut House.
[04:29] <nUboon2Age> i enjoyed the movie "Social Network" about the origins of Facebook.
[04:54] <seidos> nUboon2Age, a lot of people liked the movie, i think i know enough about facebook's history though without seeing it.  i laughed at this article from the onion on zuckerberg today:  http://www.theonion.com/articles/mark-zuckerberg-gotta-hand-it-to-the-little-fucker,18633/  it was just so...i dunno, unapologetic.
[04:54] <seidos> anyway,  night all
[14:44] <jledbetter> Wow. That place really does have character.
[17:22] <seidos> yeah, if the irc channel is any indication, i don't think noisebridge is for me
[17:26] <akk> What's the irc channel like?
[17:32] <pleia2> seidos: it's not, I like noisebridge but their channel is awful :(
[17:32] <pleia2> akk: very immature, frequently offensive
[17:32]  * pleia2 stopped joining
[17:32] <seidos> i guess a visit is in order then.  perhaps in january
[17:33] <pleia2> seidos: you should come out on a wednesday night some time, that's linux night so you can be greeted by some familiar faces :)
[17:33] <seidos> i'm going to be in the union square area today, but i don't know the city well enough to navigate to mission from there
[17:34] <seidos> oh, okay, cool pleia2.  hopefully i remember that.
[17:34] <pleia2> from there you walk down powell toward market and take BART to 16th and mission
[17:34] <seidos> i also want to start going to the zen center in the city.
[17:34] <seidos> i am walking pleia2.
[17:35] <pleia2> ah
[17:36] <seidos> and i could look it up on google maps, but then i'd have to remember the directions ^_^.  i am taking my sweet time, i am in no rush.
[17:37] <pleia2> mission is just one street past market
[17:37] <pleia2> powell > cross market and take 5th street down to mission
[17:37] <pleia2> that'll put you at 5th and mission, noisebridge is 17th and mission
[17:45] <sn9> at least the channel is still better than the mailing lists
[17:45] <seidos> oh, your good intentions reminds me of something.
[17:45] <seidos> how's everybody doing?
[17:46] <seidos> mailing lists worse than the channel?  that's a bummer.
[17:46] <pleia2> it's sunny out today, how lovely :)
[17:47] <pleia2> their mailing list is at least sometimes informative (I just skip the bickering threads, as usual)
[17:47] <pleia2> and the announce list is good
[17:47] <sn9> skipping the bickering is possible?
[17:47] <pleia2> I find the channel completely useless
[17:47] <seidos> someone was working on some regexp yesterday in the channel
[17:47] <pleia2> sn9: yes, there are several lists I have to do it on ;)
[17:47] <seidos> i thought that was kind of interesting
[17:47] <seidos> couldn't solve the problem though
[17:48] <pleia2> when I first moved here they only had one op in the channel who would randomly op people, who would also randomly op people, and then kick people for the lulz
[17:49] <seidos> i don't know, it's just that "shock jock"/"trollish" vibe...i just don't find it amusing, even though i think that's what they're going for.
[17:49] <pleia2> yeah, same
[17:49] <seidos> maybe i'm out of touch now that i'm older
[17:49] <pleia2> my initial reaction was "I am not cool enough for noisebridge"
[17:50] <sn9> sounds like a bot
[17:50] <pleia2> (I still sorta feel that way to some extent, but it helps to know people there)
[17:51] <seidos> hmmm, i think my initial reaction was "i should probably shut my mouth and not say anything in this channel", but then i had to go and ruin it and type something
[17:51] <seidos> ^_^
[17:51] <pleia2> oh I don't talk for weeks upon initial join of a channel
[17:51] <pleia2> :)
[17:52] <seidos> that's a wise policy.  check the logs later?  not a bad idea.
[17:52] <sn9> for #ubuntu?
[17:52] <pleia2> I usually like getting a feel for a place before jumping in
[17:53] <seidos> gah, #ubuntu, that's probably a good idea.  though i'm not sure how useful i will be to end users.  i'm still running karmic.
[17:53] <seidos> sometimes speaking is a great way to get a feel for the place.
[17:53] <pleia2> sn9: #ubuntu is a support channel, not really the same as a team or social channel like here or #noisebridge
[17:54] <pleia2> seidos: I'm shy :) speaking is *never* a great way for me to do anything!
[17:54] <sn9> i find it to be an absolutely superb way for me to make an ass of myself
[17:54] <pleia2> lol
[17:55] <seidos> pleia2, i am dr. jekyll and mr. hyde.  it all depends on how smoothly i want societal affair to go.
[17:56] <pleia2> I only break out of wallflower when I have a purpose (like helping run an event, or booth, or am doing a talk) and even then it's very difficult and draining
[17:56] <seidos> ah, if that were true, then i'd probably never say anything, which is quite challenging.
[17:57] <seidos> i have this silly notion quite often that i actually possess valuable information in my cerebral cortex that should be transmitted.
[17:57] <pleia2> yeah, that's how I used to be, then I learned that I could help with stuff and that it helped overcome the shyness, was hoping that getting more involved would fix my shyness all around
[17:58] <akk> "Someone is wrong on the internet!"
[17:58] <seidos> how did you learn you could "help with stuff" pleia2?
[17:59] <seidos> i have no delusions that anything i do can really be construed as "helping".  self-improvement, maybe.  but helping?  ehhhh
[17:59] <pleia2> seidos: started with work, I realized I wasn't shy at work
[17:59] <pleia2> the lug in philly was always asking people to help out, so I pitched in there
[17:59] <pleia2> eventually became the coordinator for the whole thing
[18:00] <seidos> pleia2, ah, i see.  we're talking about shyness and i'm talking about practical tasks ^_^.  you don't seem shy to me.  you just seem...normal.
[18:00] <seidos> perhaps your shyness is more a feeling more than a character trait.
[18:00] <pleia2> I think every time we've met I've been playing organizational person
[18:01] <pleia2> if we met at a party... we probably wouldn't have met, I'd be hiding :)
[18:01] <seidos> i used to be *very* shy.  but school, work, karaoke, dancing, bars, clubs put a stop to that.
[18:02] <seidos> well, if we met at a party, we probably wouldn't have met because i tend to just watch people at parties these days.
[18:02] <seidos> er, went to a party, not met at a party.
[18:02] <seidos> sorry, my mind is on making the meal.  i should get on that.
[18:03] <pleia2> hehe
[18:03] <pleia2> enjoy
[18:16] <seidos> actually, i think i should probably be more shy, or at least reserved.  observe and learn, that kind of thing.  i kind of went from extremely shy, to extremely vocal, bordering on obnoxious.  it's difficult to find the right balance.