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reya276Morning everyone14:41
reya276man today seems to be going so....slow14:41
dorganhow do i allow exim to using piping for system_aliases? anyone know?14:44
reya276Hey does anyone know the differences between Wayland display system and the current X system. Is this Wayland display system better?14:46
zoopsteryes...wayland is "supposed" to be way better15:00
zoopsterx.org is way old, was not designed for the graphics of the 21st century15:01
zoopsterwe need wayland to get us much better graphics support...15:01
zoopsterwayland is a LONG way out though...don't expect to see anything even resembling functional until late next year or early 2012 at the earliest.15:03
zoopsterreya276: ^^15:03
reya276zoopster, thanks15:03
shadowchaserhello all Im new to ubuntu can anyone help me ? 15:04
reya276shadowchaser, welcome15:04
reya276what do you need help with15:05
shadowchaserhello reya276  I am new to ubuntu and well must say like what I see      what i am trying to do is auto launch a avi file when my system starts up is it possible?15:05
zoopstershadowchaser: sure...use the startup applications tool in System > Preferences to run your avi viewer of choice to auto start it...15:08
shadowchaserthanks zoopster have tried that with VLC but I cant figure out how to launch the movie once the system starts up . I can get VLC to launch but not the avi File15:11
shadowchaserZoopster I  am starting a digital advertisement business that will scroll advertisement segments and my main concern is when the system goes down from power loss I want it to start back automaticly15:13
zoopsteryou cannot just use vlc <pathtoavi> ?15:14
shadowchaserPathtoavi? lost me there Great with windows but really new to the structure of linux15:15
reya276yeah sometimes we tend to forget that15:20
reya276so much so I don't even know what <pathtoavi> is me self. LOL15:21
reya276zoopster, is that like a CLI command?15:21
shadowchaserIs there a Loco in pensacola Florida?15:21
reya276no I think there is only one main Loco for the state, but there are folks I think live around that area15:22
zoopstershadowchaser: there is not a specific ubuntu loco, but here is a linux group15:23
reya276Hey does anyone know where Dan is? Last I heard from him was through Facebook where he was asking for some CSS help15:23
zoopstershadowchaser: are you in Pensacola?15:23
zoopsterreya276: Dan's in India I think15:23
reya276wow, cool15:23
shadowchaserReally reya276 I didnt see a Loco For Alabama  but then again not many People in alabama even know how to operate a computer15:23
reya276me, wish he was there15:23
zoopstershadowchaser: vlc is an app so the command line is vlc youravi.avi15:24
dorganhow do i allow exim to using piping for system_aliases? anyone know?15:24
shadowchaserNo zoopster I live about 60 miles north of pensacola in a town called Brewton15:24
zoopstershadowchaser: there are linux groups in AL....no "certified loco"15:24
reya276shadowchaser, well yeah I think it depends on the amount of Ubuntu users within the state and if they want to actually take on the responsibility of managing the Loco group15:24
zoopsterah...I'm from P'cola so I know Brewton15:25
zoopsterjust passed through there over thanksgiving15:25
shadowchaserCool zoopster you in pensacola now or living somewhere else15:25
zoopstershadowchaser: in tampa now15:25
shadowchaserwell zoopster didnt miss much when you passed through  blink an eye and miss the town15:26
zoopstershadowchaser: if you open up a terminal and type in vlc  and the avi you want to run it "should" just run15:26
zoopstershadowchaser: heh...yea.15:26
shadowchaserstill learning terminal and it sometimes it confuses me 15:27
zoopstershadowchaser: think of it as just a DOS prompt15:27
shadowchaserhow long you been using linux zoopster15:28
zoopstershadowchaser: um...1995 or so?15:29
shadowchaserwow ok I just found it like a few months ago and well i like it so far15:29
zoopsterbeen around unix and other os' prior to that15:30
shadowchaser1995 I was just getting my first system 15:30
shadowchasereverything I know Is self tought I have only used windows up to findinglinux 15:31
Jake2|cflshadowchaser: you need to write a short script file with that command line in it-- /pathtoVLC/vlc youraviname ,more,15:31
zoopsterthat time is a blur to me now...I was doing all kinds of stuff then...15:31
Jake2|cflShawnR: then create the startup to run THAT script15:31
maxolase1squadshadowchaser: http://www.pcolalug.org/15:32
zoopsterJake2|cfl: he needs to crawl first, my friend.15:32
maxolase1squadThey meet quarterly.15:32
Jake2|cflthats to shadow not shawn15:32
shadowchaseryes Like I first need to role over then crawl15:32
Jake2|cflzoopster: yes, but that is the way to do what he wants to do15:33
zoopsterno it's not15:33
Jake2|cflthen how?15:33
shadowchaserok let me explain what I want to do everyone15:33
zoopsterhe can just put the command in the startup apps dialog...it'll basically does it for him15:34
reya276maxolase1squad, dude I got the Android 2.2 on my Phone great stuff man. The damn thing is soooo much faster now15:35
reya276maxolase1squad, is like having a Linux OS/desktop on your phone 15:36
shadowchaserI am starting a digital advertisement business , I design Advertisement using Illustrator until I found inkscape in jpg or png file format I am then converting it in to a avi file through a movie making program 15:36
Jake2|cflreya276: Have you used the captivate to do car navigation routing? (Google Nav) If so and it worked, I may go get one [more15:37
reya276shadowchaser, ah so you and I are going to share some good tips back and forth for I too design15:37
Jake2|cfland id the 2.2 a rooted thing or released?15:37
shadowchaserreya276 you design what?15:38
zoopsterJake2|cfl: you mean use google maps and navigation?15:38
reya276Jake2|cfl, yes I used it yesterday to visit a client and it was pretty late last night too about 9pm and it took me to where I needed to go in Broward and I live in Miami way south(Kendall Area)15:38
zoopsterah...captivate is a phone type...15:38
Jake2|cflI think there is a Google app the provides voice and map navigation of a route like a standalone gps15:38
reya276Jake2|cfl, it took me there Turn by Turn voice and all15:38
zoopsteryea...there is and it works like a champ15:38
zoopsterI use it ALL the time.15:39
zoopsterthe only problem is it needs a data connection15:39
reya276Jake2|cfl, that is what I used the Google Navigation system not the one ATT provides15:39
Jake2|cflboth: so y'all have not encountered the purported GPS problems?15:39
shadowchaserwhat I need is a program that auto launches and plays my file without haveing to manually starting it up15:40
Jake2|cflzoopster: what happens when on interstate and it loses towers?15:40
zoopsterheh...only problems I have are that google tends to take a effed up route15:40
zoopsterJake2|cfl: it'll pick up again when it has a data connection, but w/o data you have nothing15:40
shadowchaserReya276   what do you design?15:40
maxolase1squadreya276: ++15:41
zoopsterif you are out in the sticks...no data connection, you will not get maps, nav, nothing15:41
Jake2|cflzoopster: that's weird, since it should be getting position from the satellites once locked15:41
Jake2|cflzoopster: oh, maybe it is constantly bring in the map over data?15:42
zoopsterinitial position from gps-a until locked, but the maps are jpeg grids and are not cached15:42
zoopsteryea15:42
zoopsterthat's it15:42
zoopsterthere is no map storage/cache15:42
Jake2|cfllet's help shadow with his problem15:42
zoopsterso shadowchaser did you run vlc from the terminal?15:43
zoopstervlc aviname.avi ?15:43
Jake2|cflhe wants aviname.avi to start on boot w/o intervention15:44
shadowchaserAhhhh No  I suck at terminal zoopster15:44
zoopsteryes15:44
shadowchasergive me a second Ill try zoopster15:45
zoopsterso the choices are go to System >Preferences >Startup Applications and add an app with the command vlc /path/to/aviname.avi15:45
zoopsteror Jake2|cfl will write you a quick/simple script to do it!15:45
* Jake2|cfl sucks at scripts too. I can write oneliners15:46
shadowchaserwell what is script? like i said I am totally new to linux 15:46
Jake2|cflshadowchaser: I think theis best place to start: System >Preferences >Startup Applications and add an app with the command vlc /path/to/aviname.avi15:47
Jake2|cflin truth, I did not know you could do that.15:48
Jake2|cflthat being insert a command with a parameter argument15:49
shadowchaserOk heres what I have been playing with   I put my png or jpg files in my picture files and set my screen saver to play them and it works but I want to set the time and rotation of my ads 15:49
reya276shadowchaser, I design all kinds of things, Everything from web design/development to(and everything in between) business cards15:51
zoopstershadowchaser: cool... the one thing you will find is that Linux is very powerful - there are MANY different ways to accomplish the same task15:52
zoopstershadowchaser: don't get frustrated...use your favorite search engine and you'll find a plethora of solutions to any given task15:52
Jake2|cflshadowchaser: answering a prev question...scripts are equivalent to batch .bat or .cmd files in DOS/windows15:52
shadowchasercool reya276  I will need a web designer soon , thats way above my head  like I said I have and Idea and i have been playing with it for a few years15:53
reya276so why not create a SWF file that has all your ads and then export it as a flash video file and just play that15:53
reya276shadowchaser, oh so your not into Flash design or anything like that. Because that would actually do what you want15:54
shadowchaserwell I no nothing od swf 15:54
Jake2|cflreya276: his starting problem was how to make whatever he does restart automatically, say, on a power blink reboot15:54
maxolase1squadshadowchaser: Where is the avi file that you want played stored at?15:55
reya276well I think zoopster help with that part now he is at the point where he wants it to loop the video15:55
shadowchaserI have been working on this project for a few years and while on vacation I actually seen it working 15:56
Jake2|cfloh, I didn't see that the original was solved--sorry15:56
shadowchaserits in my video folder maxalase1squad15:57
zoopstera cron job to check that the app is running is ideal, but let's start simply at first shadowchaser15:57
Jake2|cflif VLC has ability/option to loop = replay, then all he needs is the auto start for his avi15:57
shadowchaserBut the video will change monthly15:57
zoopsterthat's ok shadowchaser15:58
shadowchaserVLC does and it also has the abilty to stream I have figured out how to stream within my own network 15:58
zoopsterjust use the same name - either symlink it or name it  the same every month15:58
zoopsterlike I said...many ways to skin a squirrel shadowchaser15:58
shadowchaseroh I have thought of that 15:58
zoopsterso back to the original...use the "Startup Applications" and it will get you started right away15:59
zoopstervlc has a very powerful command line interface for MANY different things15:59
shadowchaserYes and in the command line i point it towards my avi file and it will launch it automaticlly right16:00
zoopsteruse a terminal to test it out....Applications >Accessories >Terminal16:00
zoopsteryes16:00
zoopsterjust use vlc /path/to/avi16:01
shadowchaserI see 16:01
zoopstervlc will/should be in the default path16:01
shadowchaserand to reya 276 once I figure out this part I am going to start learning swf 16:01
shadowchaserzoopster I got to ask how old are you Im 38 16:02
zoopstershadowchaser: 46 going on 28 trying to keep up with itnet716:03
shadowchaserSo zoopster in my comand line I would type something  like vlc/shadow/video/ads.avi?16:03
zoopstershadowchaser: yes, but with a space between vlc and /16:04
shadowchasermy only problem is my wife tells me my brain is like a dyson vacuum cleaner its full of crap and its spinning constantly16:04
Jake2|cfl :) 16:05
zoopstershadowchaser: that's funny.16:06
shadowchaserzoopster, reya276,  jake2 you guys on here alot?16:06
zoopsterI hang out here a good portion of my online time16:07
zoopsterwhich is pretty constant16:07
reya276shadowchaser, everyday, we give support to each other. Well I'm mostly here for conversation and if anyone ever needs help with design, CSS, and Web Dev stuff and some minor Ubuntu help but not much more than that16:08
reya276shadowchaser, Like you I'm not very good with CLI and doing all that smart Linux backend stuff16:09
shadowchaserreya276 I will soon need help I can promise you that !16:10
shadowchaserMy wife tells me daily that I have the attention span of a butterfly if the least little puff of wind comes Im off on some other Idea of mine16:11
zoopsterthose are good shadowchaser 16:13
shadowchaserthanks for your help zoopster and reya276 and jake2  I work graveyard alot and my words are starting to run together so i must bid you a good day and slumber  now16:13
Jake2|cflasked "reya276, jake2 you guys on here alot?" me not so much any more16:15
shadowchaseri have many ideas some that are way beyond my knowladge level16:15
zoopstersee ya shadowchaser16:16
shadowchaserlater zoopster 16:16
Jake2|cflBack to captivate discussion....16:18
Jake2|cflFor u 2 who have one...what do you like least about it16:19
dorganhow do i allow exim to using piping for system_aliases? anyone know?17:08
maxolase1squadToday's Dilbert has a lot of win.  http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/100000/00000/8000/700/108771/108771.strip.print.gif18:04
DammitJimthanks, maxolase1squad !18:54
reya276Jake2|cfl, sorry dude I got pulled away on a meeting19:12
reya276Jake2|cfl, there is nothing I don't like about it specially not that I got 2.2 on it19:12
reya276Jake2|cfl, everything is awesome about it19:12
dorgananyone know how to allow exim to usepiping for system_aliases?19:35
dorganlol19:36
zoopsterdorgan: no freaking idea - never used exim myself - not sure what you are trying to do19:50
zoopsterdorgan: something like this? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/8939819:51
dorganzoopster: mailman uses system aliases and piping 19:51
zoopsterah19:52
dorganexim apparently is setup by default not to allow piping through system alaises19:52
zoopsterah hah19:52
zoopsterok19:52
zoopsterdorgan: have you looked here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman19:54
dorganlooking now19:55
dorganthat guide is out of date19:55
dorganlol19:55
dorgan7.10 was the version it was tested for19:55
dorgan :)19:55
zoopsterand the transport file is different for whatever you are using?19:56
zoopsterits the same in the 10.10 docs19:57
zoopsterdorgan: that stuff comes from the exim.org how-to for mailman 2.120:03
zoopsterwow...all of the exim docs are out of date, too20:05
zoopsterdorgan: look at this http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.html#id30517820:09
zoopsterdorgan: that should help you do it correctly20:10
zoopsterdorgan: did that help?20:18
dorgansomewhat20:18
dorgansetting up some config files right now20:18
dorganzoopster: ok ended up removing exim and install postfix...as soon as I setup the relay it just worked :)20:43
zoopsterheh...yea postfix is keeping up...20:44
zoopsterexim seemed a bit convoluted in the name of security20:44
reya276Merry Christmas Everyone. Happy Holidays.21:52
maxolase1squadMerry Christmas y'alls!22:07

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