[00:20] <chattr> maxolase2squad: write stderr to stdout: 2>&1
[00:32] <Spreadsheet__> I just moved to FL today
[00:32] <Spreadsheet__> It's really hot and humid here compared to where I moved from
[02:04] <Mhaddog> hshsh
[02:04] <Mhaddog> heheh hot and humid?
[14:41] <reya276> Morning everyone
[14:41] <reya276> man today seems to be going so....slow
[14:44] <dorgan> how do i allow exim to using piping for system_aliases? anyone know?
[14:46] <reya276> Hey does anyone know the differences between Wayland display system and the current X system. Is this Wayland display system better?
[15:00] <zoopster> yes...wayland is "supposed" to be way better
[15:01] <zoopster> x.org is way old, was not designed for the graphics of the 21st century
[15:01] <zoopster> we need wayland to get us much better graphics support...
[15:03] <zoopster> wayland is a LONG way out though...don't expect to see anything even resembling functional until late next year or early 2012 at the earliest.
[15:03] <zoopster> reya276: ^^
[15:03] <reya276> zoopster, thanks
[15:04] <shadowchaser> hello all Im new to ubuntu can anyone help me ? 
[15:04] <reya276> shadowchaser, welcome
[15:05] <reya276> what do you need help with
[15:05] <shadowchaser> hello reya276  I am new to ubuntu and well must say like what I see      what i am trying to do is auto launch a avi file when my system starts up is it possible?
[15:08] <zoopster> shadowchaser: sure...use the startup applications tool in System > Preferences to run your avi viewer of choice to auto start it...
[15:11] <shadowchaser> thanks zoopster have tried that with VLC but I cant figure out how to launch the movie once the system starts up . I can get VLC to launch but not the avi File
[15:13] <shadowchaser> Zoopster I  am starting a digital advertisement business that will scroll advertisement segments and my main concern is when the system goes down from power loss I want it to start back automaticly
[15:14] <zoopster> you cannot just use vlc <pathtoavi> ?
[15:15] <shadowchaser> Pathtoavi? lost me there Great with windows but really new to the structure of linux
[15:20] <reya276> yeah sometimes we tend to forget that
[15:21] <reya276> so much so I don't even know what <pathtoavi> is me self. LOL
[15:21] <reya276> zoopster, is that like a CLI command?
[15:21] <shadowchaser> Is there a Loco in pensacola Florida?
[15:22] <reya276> no I think there is only one main Loco for the state, but there are folks I think live around that area
[15:23] <zoopster> shadowchaser: there is not a specific ubuntu loco, but here is a linux group
[15:23] <reya276> Hey does anyone know where Dan is? Last I heard from him was through Facebook where he was asking for some CSS help
[15:23] <zoopster> shadowchaser: are you in Pensacola?
[15:23] <zoopster> reya276: Dan's in India I think
[15:23] <reya276> wow, cool
[15:23] <shadowchaser> Really reya276 I didnt see a Loco For Alabama  but then again not many People in alabama even know how to operate a computer
[15:23] <reya276> me, wish he was there
[15:24] <zoopster> shadowchaser: vlc is an app so the command line is vlc youravi.avi
[15:24] <dorgan> how do i allow exim to using piping for system_aliases? anyone know?
[15:24] <shadowchaser> No zoopster I live about 60 miles north of pensacola in a town called Brewton
[15:24] <zoopster> shadowchaser: there are linux groups in AL....no "certified loco"
[15:24] <reya276> shadowchaser, well yeah I think it depends on the amount of Ubuntu users within the state and if they want to actually take on the responsibility of managing the Loco group
[15:25] <zoopster> ah...I'm from P'cola so I know Brewton
[15:25] <zoopster> just passed through there over thanksgiving
[15:25] <shadowchaser> Cool zoopster you in pensacola now or living somewhere else
[15:25] <zoopster> shadowchaser: in tampa now
[15:26] <shadowchaser> well zoopster didnt miss much when you passed through  blink an eye and miss the town
[15:26] <zoopster> shadowchaser: if you open up a terminal and type in vlc  and the avi you want to run it "should" just run
[15:26] <zoopster> shadowchaser: heh...yea.
[15:27] <shadowchaser> still learning terminal and it sometimes it confuses me 
[15:27] <zoopster> shadowchaser: think of it as just a DOS prompt
[15:28] <shadowchaser> how long you been using linux zoopster
[15:29] <zoopster> shadowchaser: um...1995 or so?
[15:29] <shadowchaser> wow ok I just found it like a few months ago and well i like it so far
[15:30] <zoopster> been around unix and other os' prior to that
[15:30] <shadowchaser> 1995 I was just getting my first system 
[15:31] <shadowchaser> everything I know Is self tought I have only used windows up to findinglinux 
[15:31] <Jake2|cfl> shadowchaser: you need to write a short script file with that command line in it-- /pathtoVLC/vlc youraviname ,more,
[15:31] <zoopster> that time is a blur to me now...I was doing all kinds of stuff then...
[15:31] <Jake2|cfl> ShawnR: then create the startup to run THAT script
[15:32] <maxolase1squad> shadowchaser: http://www.pcolalug.org/
[15:32] <zoopster> Jake2|cfl: he needs to crawl first, my friend.
[15:32] <maxolase1squad> They meet quarterly.
[15:32] <Jake2|cfl> thats to shadow not shawn
[15:32] <shadowchaser> yes Like I first need to role over then crawl
[15:33] <Jake2|cfl> zoopster: yes, but that is the way to do what he wants to do
[15:33] <zoopster> no it's not
[15:33] <Jake2|cfl> then how?
[15:33] <shadowchaser> ok let me explain what I want to do everyone
[15:34] <zoopster> he can just put the command in the startup apps dialog...it'll basically does it for him
[15:35] <reya276> maxolase1squad, dude I got the Android 2.2 on my Phone great stuff man. The damn thing is soooo much faster now
[15:36] <reya276> maxolase1squad, is like having a Linux OS/desktop on your phone 
[15:36] <shadowchaser> I am starting a digital advertisement business , I design Advertisement using Illustrator until I found inkscape in jpg or png file format I am then converting it in to a avi file through a movie making program 
[15:37] <Jake2|cfl> reya276: Have you used the captivate to do car navigation routing? (Google Nav) If so and it worked, I may go get one [more
[15:37] <reya276> shadowchaser, ah so you and I are going to share some good tips back and forth for I too design
[15:37] <Jake2|cfl> and id the 2.2 a rooted thing or released?
[15:38] <shadowchaser> reya276 you design what?
[15:38] <zoopster> Jake2|cfl: you mean use google maps and navigation?
[15:38] <reya276> Jake2|cfl, yes I used it yesterday to visit a client and it was pretty late last night too about 9pm and it took me to where I needed to go in Broward and I live in Miami way south(Kendall Area)
[15:38] <zoopster> ah...captivate is a phone type...
[15:38] <Jake2|cfl> I think there is a Google app the provides voice and map navigation of a route like a standalone gps
[15:38] <reya276> Jake2|cfl, it took me there Turn by Turn voice and all
[15:38] <zoopster> yea...there is and it works like a champ
[15:39] <zoopster> I use it ALL the time.
[15:39] <zoopster> the only problem is it needs a data connection
[15:39] <reya276> Jake2|cfl, that is what I used the Google Navigation system not the one ATT provides
[15:39] <Jake2|cfl> both: so y'all have not encountered the purported GPS problems?
[15:40] <shadowchaser> what I need is a program that auto launches and plays my file without haveing to manually starting it up
[15:40] <Jake2|cfl> zoopster: what happens when on interstate and it loses towers?
[15:40] <zoopster> heh...only problems I have are that google tends to take a effed up route
[15:40] <zoopster> Jake2|cfl: it'll pick up again when it has a data connection, but w/o data you have nothing
[15:40] <shadowchaser> Reya276   what do you design?
[15:41] <maxolase1squad> reya276: ++
[15:41] <zoopster> if you are out in the sticks...no data connection, you will not get maps, nav, nothing
[15:41] <Jake2|cfl> zoopster: that's weird, since it should be getting position from the satellites once locked
[15:42] <Jake2|cfl> zoopster: oh, maybe it is constantly bring in the map over data?
[15:42] <zoopster> initial position from gps-a until locked, but the maps are jpeg grids and are not cached
[15:42] <zoopster> yea
[15:42] <zoopster> that's it
[15:42] <zoopster> there is no map storage/cache
[15:42] <Jake2|cfl> let's help shadow with his problem
[15:43] <zoopster> so shadowchaser did you run vlc from the terminal?
[15:43] <zoopster> vlc aviname.avi ?
[15:44] <Jake2|cfl> he wants aviname.avi to start on boot w/o intervention
[15:44] <shadowchaser> Ahhhh No  I suck at terminal zoopster
[15:44] <zoopster> yes
[15:45] <shadowchaser> give me a second Ill try zoopster
[15:45] <zoopster> so the choices are go to System >Preferences >Startup Applications and add an app with the command vlc /path/to/aviname.avi
[15:45] <zoopster> or Jake2|cfl will write you a quick/simple script to do it!
[15:46]  * Jake2|cfl sucks at scripts too. I can write oneliners
[15:46] <shadowchaser> well what is script? like i said I am totally new to linux 
[15:47] <Jake2|cfl> shadowchaser: I think theis best place to start: System >Preferences >Startup Applications and add an app with the command vlc /path/to/aviname.avi
[15:48] <Jake2|cfl> in truth, I did not know you could do that.
[15:49] <Jake2|cfl> that being insert a command with a parameter argument
[15:49] <shadowchaser> Ok heres what I have been playing with   I put my png or jpg files in my picture files and set my screen saver to play them and it works but I want to set the time and rotation of my ads 
[15:51] <reya276> shadowchaser, I design all kinds of things, Everything from web design/development to(and everything in between) business cards
[15:52] <zoopster> shadowchaser: cool... the one thing you will find is that Linux is very powerful - there are MANY different ways to accomplish the same task
[15:52] <zoopster> shadowchaser: don't get frustrated...use your favorite search engine and you'll find a plethora of solutions to any given task
[15:52] <Jake2|cfl> shadowchaser: answering a prev question...scripts are equivalent to batch .bat or .cmd files in DOS/windows
[15:53] <shadowchaser> cool reya276  I will need a web designer soon , thats way above my head  like I said I have and Idea and i have been playing with it for a few years
[15:53] <reya276> so why not create a SWF file that has all your ads and then export it as a flash video file and just play that
[15:54] <reya276> shadowchaser, oh so your not into Flash design or anything like that. Because that would actually do what you want
[15:54] <shadowchaser> well I no nothing od swf 
[15:54] <Jake2|cfl> reya276: his starting problem was how to make whatever he does restart automatically, say, on a power blink reboot
[15:55] <maxolase1squad> shadowchaser: Where is the avi file that you want played stored at?
[15:55] <reya276> well I think zoopster help with that part now he is at the point where he wants it to loop the video
[15:56] <shadowchaser> I have been working on this project for a few years and while on vacation I actually seen it working 
[15:56] <Jake2|cfl> oh, I didn't see that the original was solved--sorry
[15:57] <shadowchaser> its in my video folder maxalase1squad
[15:57] <zoopster> a cron job to check that the app is running is ideal, but let's start simply at first shadowchaser
[15:57] <Jake2|cfl> if VLC has ability/option to loop = replay, then all he needs is the auto start for his avi
[15:57] <shadowchaser> But the video will change monthly
[15:58] <zoopster> that's ok shadowchaser
[15:58] <shadowchaser> VLC does and it also has the abilty to stream I have figured out how to stream within my own network 
[15:58] <zoopster> just use the same name - either symlink it or name it  the same every month
[15:58] <zoopster> like I said...many ways to skin a squirrel shadowchaser
[15:58] <shadowchaser> oh I have thought of that 
[15:59] <zoopster> so back to the original...use the "Startup Applications" and it will get you started right away
[15:59] <zoopster> vlc has a very powerful command line interface for MANY different things
[16:00] <shadowchaser> Yes and in the command line i point it towards my avi file and it will launch it automaticlly right
[16:00] <zoopster> use a terminal to test it out....Applications >Accessories >Terminal
[16:00] <zoopster> yes
[16:01] <zoopster> just use vlc /path/to/avi
[16:01] <shadowchaser> I see 
[16:01] <zoopster> vlc will/should be in the default path
[16:01] <shadowchaser> and to reya 276 once I figure out this part I am going to start learning swf 
[16:02] <shadowchaser> zoopster I got to ask how old are you Im 38 
[16:03] <zoopster> shadowchaser: 46 going on 28 trying to keep up with itnet7
[16:03] <shadowchaser> So zoopster in my comand line I would type something  like vlc/shadow/video/ads.avi?
[16:04] <zoopster> shadowchaser: yes, but with a space between vlc and /
[16:04] <shadowchaser> my only problem is my wife tells me my brain is like a dyson vacuum cleaner its full of crap and its spinning constantly
[16:05] <Jake2|cfl>  :) 
[16:06] <zoopster> shadowchaser: that's funny.
[16:06] <shadowchaser> zoopster, reya276,  jake2 you guys on here alot?
[16:07] <zoopster> I hang out here a good portion of my online time
[16:07] <zoopster> which is pretty constant
[16:08] <reya276> shadowchaser, everyday, we give support to each other. Well I'm mostly here for conversation and if anyone ever needs help with design, CSS, and Web Dev stuff and some minor Ubuntu help but not much more than that
[16:09] <reya276> shadowchaser, Like you I'm not very good with CLI and doing all that smart Linux backend stuff
[16:10] <shadowchaser> reya276 I will soon need help I can promise you that !
[16:11] <shadowchaser> My wife tells me daily that I have the attention span of a butterfly if the least little puff of wind comes Im off on some other Idea of mine
[16:13] <zoopster> those are good shadowchaser 
[16:13] <shadowchaser> thanks for your help zoopster and reya276 and jake2  I work graveyard alot and my words are starting to run together so i must bid you a good day and slumber  now
[16:15] <Jake2|cfl> asked "reya276, jake2 you guys on here alot?" me not so much any more
[16:15] <shadowchaser> i have many ideas some that are way beyond my knowladge level
[16:16] <zoopster> see ya shadowchaser
[16:16] <shadowchaser> later zoopster 
[16:18] <Jake2|cfl> Back to captivate discussion....
[16:19] <Jake2|cfl> For u 2 who have one...what do you like least about it
[17:08] <dorgan> how do i allow exim to using piping for system_aliases? anyone know?
[18:04] <maxolase1squad> Today's Dilbert has a lot of win.  http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/100000/00000/8000/700/108771/108771.strip.print.gif
[18:54] <DammitJim> thanks, maxolase1squad !
[19:12] <reya276> Jake2|cfl, sorry dude I got pulled away on a meeting
[19:12] <reya276> Jake2|cfl, there is nothing I don't like about it specially not that I got 2.2 on it
[19:12] <reya276> Jake2|cfl, everything is awesome about it
[19:35] <dorgan> anyone know how to allow exim to usepiping for system_aliases?
[19:36] <dorgan> lol
[19:50] <zoopster> dorgan: no freaking idea - never used exim myself - not sure what you are trying to do
[19:51] <zoopster> dorgan: something like this? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/89398
[19:51] <dorgan> zoopster: mailman uses system aliases and piping 
[19:52] <zoopster> ah
[19:52] <dorgan> exim apparently is setup by default not to allow piping through system alaises
[19:52] <zoopster> ah hah
[19:52] <zoopster> ok
[19:54] <zoopster> dorgan: have you looked here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman
[19:55] <dorgan> looking now
[19:55] <dorgan> that guide is out of date
[19:55] <dorgan> lol
[19:55] <dorgan> 7.10 was the version it was tested for
[19:55] <dorgan>  :)
[19:56] <zoopster> and the transport file is different for whatever you are using?
[19:57] <zoopster> its the same in the 10.10 docs
[20:03] <zoopster> dorgan: that stuff comes from the exim.org how-to for mailman 2.1
[20:05] <zoopster> wow...all of the exim docs are out of date, too
[20:09] <zoopster> dorgan: look at this http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.html#id305178
[20:10] <zoopster> dorgan: that should help you do it correctly
[20:18] <zoopster> dorgan: did that help?
[20:18] <dorgan> somewhat
[20:18] <dorgan> setting up some config files right now
[20:43] <dorgan> zoopster: ok ended up removing exim and install postfix...as soon as I setup the relay it just worked :)
[20:44] <zoopster> heh...yea postfix is keeping up...
[20:44] <zoopster> exim seemed a bit convoluted in the name of security
[21:52] <reya276> Merry Christmas Everyone. Happy Holidays.
[22:07] <maxolase1squad> Merry Christmas y'alls!