[00:00] <Sarvatt> marjo: ok try booting with vga=315 added to grub
[00:01] <Sarvatt> if that works, update your bios to fix it
[00:01] <marjo> Sarvatt: add vga=315 to the kernel command line?
[00:01]  * Sarvatt nods
[00:02] <marjo> Sarvatt: no such luck; drum heard, blank screen
[00:02] <marjo> Sarvatt: still want dmesg?
[00:03] <Sarvatt> marjo: what does dmesg | grep "vesafb: mode" say when booting with that vga=315?
[00:04] <Sarvatt> 800x600?
[00:04] <marjo> Sarvatt: returns nothing
[00:05]  * Sarvatt scratches head
[00:09] <Sarvatt> apw: la la la? :)
[00:51] <bryceh> Sarvatt, any thoughts on bug #692677?  
[00:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 692677 in nvidia-settings (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Desktop login to unity leads to hang and compiz crash when X Server Display Confirmation is clicked on (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692677
[00:52] <bryceh> nvidia-setting's glx calls through unity behave differently than when booted with classic desktop
[01:26] <bjsnider> for something that's "trivial to fix" that is a large patch
[01:41] <RAOF> Hm.  So, I can't reproduce *that* crash, but nvidia-settings is all manner of messed up here.
[01:42] <RAOF> Which is odd, because it was working perfectly last night.
[01:43] <RAOF> SIGFPE!  Woot!
[02:15] <bryceh> RAOF, hrm
[02:16] <RAOF> Just updating to the most current stuff & seeing if I can reproduce.
[03:36] <bryceh> Sarvatt, RAOF:  Example output from new apport hook - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/693667
[03:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 693667 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Yet another apport test (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[03:37] <RAOF> You know about the APPORT_STAGING env variable, yes?
[03:37] <RAOF> Also, that nvidia-settings thing is weird.
[03:38] <bryceh> oh, hadn't seen mention of APPORT_STAGING before
[03:39] <bryceh> anyway, I mostly test apport locally anyway
[03:40] <RAOF> Is DistUpgraded the last time the machine was upgraded from one release to another, or the last time dist-upgrade was run (that's a stupid terminology confusion :()
[03:42] <bjsnider> what does an apt-get dist-upgrade do exactly?
[03:43] <RAOF> Upgrade + install new packages if appropriate.
[03:43] <bjsnider> upgrade to a new distro?
[03:43] <RAOF> “upgrade” is just “install newer versions of what I've got installed, but don't install any new packages”
[03:44] <bjsnider> well, if it's not upgrading to a new distro then i don't see why it's called "dist-upgrade". sounds like it should do what update-manager -d does
[03:44] <bryceh> RAOF, specifically it is top -n 1 from /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[03:44] <RAOF> It does, dosen't it :)
[03:45] <bryceh> RAOF,  which isn't precisely what I'm after so I might change it
[03:45] <RAOF> Hm.  SIGFPE in nvidia_drv for all!
[03:46] <bryceh> basically what I want is a mechanical way to indicate whether the user's system was upgraded from a prior release, or was a fresh install to natty (possibly with some updates)
[03:46] <RAOF> Yeah.  That's a fine goal.
[03:46] <bryceh> my working theory is that the existence of any content in /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log would indicate an upgraded machine
[03:47] <bryceh> but I'm open to better solutions
[03:47] <bryceh> for now though, being called to dinner... bbl
[03:50] <RAOF> Hm.  Working theory - switching to display server configuration *sometimes* causes nvidia-settings to resize its window to nonsensical values; from here, maximising will crash the server with an FPE in nvidia_drv, or gtk-window-decorator will BadAlloc first.
[03:51] <bjsnider> maybe dist-upgrade is one of those things that makes more sense in debian, where there's only a new distro every thousand years or so, than it does in ubuntu, where you can't throw a rock without hitting a new distro
[05:16] <RAOF> Well, it really does look like 06_thingamy.patch is to blame.
[05:35] <bryceh> RAOF, oh?
[05:36] <bryceh> bjsnider, yeah the upgrade vs. dist-upgrade thing has always seemed weird.  
[05:59] <RAOF> bryceh: Well, I rebuilt nvidia-settings without it and it doesn't seem to trigger the same madness.
[06:37] <bryceh> hmm, well sounds like the patch needs more work before we can be shipping it
[20:49] <uros1> any chance to run fan speed control with old NVIDIA 8500GT